David Patin thank you for the comment I do give fair review and will be putting up a review of my new tokaido gi soon

I haven't worn a Tokyodo gi yet I'm sure eventually il get one and I agree the seishin is very overpriced and even though it is a nice gi there are better ones out there kaiten sovereign is its nearest counterpart and its much cheaper :)

My tokyodo yohachi belt is sick!!

try the kaiten sovereign, it is microfibre cotton and by far my longest lasting gi. 6 years and counting

@@danskarate997 ow, thanks will look into that

Jaimy Groenhuijzen I agree elastic would be better and don't get me wrong it was comfortable but for the money it wasn't worth it for me

Kamae haven't shut...I was speaking to them only last week? get in touch, I'm sure they still do their own brand and 'Kaiten'...www.kamae.org.uk/products-karate_suits_gis.html

Peter McNally I recently realised it was kamae online that shut down not the company itself lol I will be hopefully ordering more gi from them soon

Yes pal but they haven't, I sent a link their and was talking to Bob the other day about ordering, the website is up and running they are just making improvements to it, but can still order and they still show Kaiten products on their site! :) Thanks for this review....have been playing in my head over and over about this gi, sometimes i like it sometimes i'm not sure...the price point is one of the dearest gis ever that i have seen! can get a custom made one in Japan for cheaper....just not sure....the trousers was worst for you?

Peter McNally thanks for the link as for the seisin gi you can get a kata master or kaiten both good gis and I prefer them to this one I think if your going to pay that price tag for a lightweight gi then you will want to go with hirota but the kaiten sovereign is practically the same thing and is much cheaper

I thought they did but they are using there old website now a minor error :)

It is a test of time I guess and I usually wash my dogi everytime but thicker gi can last two lessons before needing a wash it depends how they are treated when made

@@danskarate997 I've worn Shureido and am currently rocking a Tokaido at present at my current dojo, both made of the heaviest canvas. After an hour, they can hold no more sweat. It's literally dripping steadilly on the floor like a coffee maker after an hour of practice (no fans allowed, sadly). Anyway, different training conditions, I guess. Thanks again for your good review.

With that money I'd rather buy 2 venum absolute gis.

White diamond has been turd for a few years, inconsistent cut, come with stains on them, some have the labels and that awful blitz embroidery, some don't...wouldn't use them or put them up against Japanese makes...that said, blitz do good products and my other gi by them (most recently zenshin) have been very good

@@petermcnallt12pm i'd have to admit that the cut does differ gi to gi, not had one with a stain, it is a good work horse gi, and compared to the seishin price tag, i'd go white diamond every time. Its not my best gi, i have a 12oz kata kyoto from blitz (but this has now been replaced by the odachi) i looked at the zenshin (i like (12oz gi), but don't like the euro cut. I have had a number of gi, hayashi, tokaido and recent venum kata elite. The worst gi ever is the venum, trousers feel like they have been cut wrong, you can't lift your leg properly, As if seishin were not expensive already, just watched jesse enkamp say they are doing a supreme gi, heavier weight, but the name implies more money , i dredd to think how much..

tokaido is quality for sure when it comes to cotton unfortunately for someone of my hieght the cut is just not good.

norwich babe if you want one by all means get one but for the price there is a lot more on the market that does the same for less hirota and kaiten are good examples

haahah same