I always thought that Sekiro parry window was huge (in comparison to most other games I mean) if you aren't spamming

The way to parry correctly is One, watch the enemy's movements first Two, before the impact is about to happen, press L1 or LB Of course, easier said than done. I failed 100 times before i could actually have a success

@@EverRusting It is im pretty sure. The window is a lot more forgiving than parry times in Dark Souls. However the difference is you have to deflect entire chains of attacks while in souls you wait defensively for a *single* attack and parry it.

Also the camera in close quarters.

please no, that would ruin the game

Hesitation is defeat, after all

We all know that. But boss in sekiro deal shit ton of posture damage, especially the fake corrupted monk. So we're forced to parry at the right time, rather than always try to parry early 😬

@@nqtduc Thats why the gokan sugar is the best one (whatever sugar gives posture damage reduction)

@@nqtduc that’s why the illusion corrupted monk is one of my favorite bosses in the game. It’s a straight up deflect / posture battle. I just beat it a few minutes ago and man it feels good every time. I’ve memorized that move set like the back of my hand.

@@zonk834 I struggle with that boss in both NG and NG+. His attack sometimes delay, sometimes so quick. I ended up use firecracker and ash to beat her

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I'm pretty sure Alexander knows that too. It's just nice to look at the time we have to deflect visually, at least once.

i don't think anyones saying it should be on the screen in the game

I was thinking it would be best to have something like this animated relative to the enemies' or player's screen position. At least then you could still have a warning for attacks coming from off screen. Although, the game kinda has that. To get an idea of when to parry, on slow attacks, I've learned to recognize the position of graphical effects surround the blade, and the torso movements of fast attacks; like Isshin's Ashina Cross is just slow enough that you can actually react to it.

this is just visualization, they're not trying to add in something that was missing or anything

tru tru a forgotten hidden gem

@@Ehzah8 it won game of the year, it's definitely not a hidden gem

I mean it is generous, Sekiro’s parry window is around 30 frames whereas a fighting game like Street Fighter 6 is around 2 or 3 Frames.

It's actually a bit more technical than that. Every time you tap Deflect more than 2 times you will get diminishing returns on your active Deflect frames. So if your normal frame window is 6 frames for a Deflect it will be decreased to 4 frames as soon as you mash for the third time. Down to 2 frames on the fourth press and 0 on the fifth, meaning Deflects are no longer possible. So a key skill in higher level Sekiro(Charmless, Beadless, etc.) is only double tapping Deflect, basically doubling your chances of success.

@@Tainuowow most interesting. This explains something. I tried not to spam ever but sometimes my timing was simply off. Especially with a new boss, and I would have to press it again but it still seemed to work in really short bursts

@@emancules just hold the button down for a second or until the hit happens.

@@Tainuo what a weird way to nerf button mashing.

@@SMT-ks8ypthe game is built around learning to parry so it makes sense. if you could spam L1 and parry everything to win that wouldnt really be a fun game

I have the same perspective as your friend People initially look at me funny when I describe it that way until I say it's almost as if you're dancing with your enemies and the goal is to make sure you're always leading

back when Sekiro came out and i heard this perspective of it being a rythm game, it completely changed my gameplay. it even got easier, to be fair :D

@@gekiitriceps9211I only realized after playing other dark souls game. Elden ring bosses just felt so fucking clunky and random in comparison lmao

People have beaten it blindfolded

Lilagy defeated it blindfolded 🫣

That's not entirely accurate, you only take in consideration an edge case where the enemy takes 500ms from the start of their animation (So the starting point from which the player can start to react) to the damage dealt. While these attacks exist they're not the norm in Sekiro, in fact most attacks take much more than 500ms to actually touch you, thus you have much more time to react than what you're implying. This mechanic challenges you less on your reaction time than it does on your sense of timing / rhythm / knowing the patterns

I want to get Sekiro and I want to go in blind :) (unlike elden ring and stuff)

@@NoahYoudontneedtoknowmyl-kt3vc you're in for a treat

@@NoahYoudontneedtoknowmyl-kt3vc struggle learn beat repeat

"Most parry windows seem to be around 30 frames." Nooooooo no no no no. 30 FPS, in a 60 FPS game is 1/2 second. Most parry windows in ARPG games (like Dark Souls) are more like 1/4 second for "normal" parry tools, with 3/8 for the better tools and 1/8 for the worse tools. Fighting games like Soul Calibur have even tighter windows, and "perfect" parries in those games are sometimes literally perfect, meaning one frame or 1/60 second. 1/2 a second is a really long parry window, but Sekiro is so forgiving on this timing because you're expected to do it a lot.

In theory yes, but for me the game became much MUCH easier when I started spamming block instead of trying to get the timing right. When I was playing "by the rules" every early game miniboss took me 20+ attempts, and it took me like 100 attempts to beat lady butterfly. Then I noticed that mashing parry was actually pretty consistent and much easier than learning all the timings by heart through trial and error. I beat many bosses in one or two tries without learning any of their patterns, just start mashing when they get close.

​@@acanthodactyl well some cases mashing party is the solution with how fast some attacks and combos are

@@acanthodactyl this is a lie, unless you got a different version of the game than everyone else. The game is litterally designed to stop you from doing that.

​@@yaboi-km2qn With charm and without bell, most enemies do little damage and have little health. With proper posture management, I can see how spamming deflect can be a viable alternative to learning enemy attacks.

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Tbh you can get through a lot with random movement but if you get into the dance of the blades you truly see the beauty of the game and combat also it's a LOT easier

the game is ez asf 💀

@@Th3RealUnknown Nobody said it's hard you fking r*t*rd it's by far the easiest souls game at least as long as you don't play any p*ssy one shot builds which you can even partly do in this game at least you can ez clap the end boss in like 2 minutes

That's a good way to describe it, I always called it Focus. Kind of like 'in the zone'

@@Th3RealUnknown not really. From beginning to end it's one of the most challenging soulsborne games with some of the most challenging bosses along the way, and requires you to learn proper timing and certain mechanics. The way it works is it forces you to learn how to properly play the game until you've mastered it. Each boss uses a collection of mechanics you've learned across your playthrough and if you don't pay attention, you get destroyed. Maybe you had an easy time with the game, but if you're claiming the game was easy and you took more than an hour on a boss or skipped bosses, than you're lying to yourself. I've gotten to the point where I can easily play through the game on NG+7 with kuro's charm, but that doesn't mean the game is easy. It just means I got good at playing it.

you'd be staring at the parry meter instead of playing the game, bad take

@@vepeu You didn't even understand the take. He's talking about this video, not the game

@@vepeuyou didn’t even understand what he said 😂 why are the dumb ones always the loudest 💀

That’s our we haven’t gitted gud yet

Dante's Royal Guard in the Devil May Cry games is one that comes to mind for me. They did make it somewhat more forgiving in the 5th game but the games prior it was super hard to pull off a perfect deflect and I'd argue that even in DMC5 it's still quite hard to pull off. Sekiro's timing is indeed very forgiving in comparison

⁠​⁠@@mingQWERTYRoyal Guard is actually pretty generous at a 6 frame window, and DMC5 didn’t adjust the window at all, it’s still 6 frames but the punishment for blocking early is non-existent in 5 so the risk/reward has been skewed massively in your favor. If you want a strict parry system try Issen in Onimusha, I don’t know the exact frame data but it starts off somewhere around 6 frames, the interesting part is that if you press the attack button at a specific point during the Issen animation you can do another one for free, and you can do this forever, the catch is that the window gets smaller every time you do it and it becomes genuinely frame perfect very quickly. If you get good at chain Issen you can destroy bosses in literal seconds because they dared to attack you one time.

Isn't the music of most From Soft games already matching the tempo of attacks of the bosses? I think I've seen that somewhere.

​@@KaldrinDancer of Boreal valley?

I just look at the weapon and parry when it's about to smack me. I rarely memorise timing but just observe the visual clues, the game does an amazing job of showing body language so you can almost watch the tension in their body to anticipate the timing of the strike. It works (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bqdojL1e0pfGpYk.html)

1, 2, 3, Mikiri sounds like if Sekiro wrote a book for children.

@@seastilton7912 Someone gave me the tip of watching the hands, and that helped a ton

Second playthrough and I was deflecting perfectly, for all bosses except Isshin.

That's actually a really cool idea for a mod

It would actually be the perfect practice thing. It doesn't tell you how to beat bosses, or what each owns timing is, just that this is how it works.

@@TimothyGod That would trivialize the game even in practice, Sekiro is about reading the opponent replacing all of this with a bar in the middle of the screen is a bad idea

@@sassas1487 Not necessarily, especially since Sekiro has a lot of different enemy types. You can be amazing at killing Hanbei in the tutorial section, but you'd still probably die a lot on a first playthrough because timing the parry on different enemies is pretty hard. Putting this kind of feature in the Hanbei arena would just expedite some of the very early learning process by giving them a framework to work off of, but that practice wouldn't even scale far enough to trivialize the first Ashina Spear.

I think it wouldn't be too bad for game balance when you factor in unblockable moves. You'd still have to pay attention to things besides the bar.

What did you think it was? 1 frame out of 60? That would be such an incredibly unlikely timing

@@seastilton7912but it’s possible

Why would you want that during normal gameplay? It defeats the whole purpose of getting good. It’s a neat feature tho.

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animation team of one it sounds like, so extra props to Alexander. i'd call it better than "newbie animation" for sure

I was about to say the exact opposite, the animation does NOT convery at all how long this parry window is, a big failure on the animation part...

Bro got observation haki

@@louisuchihatm2556 i trained it so hard that i managed to defeat Isshin Ashina after months playing other stuff 🗿

When i fought Demon of Hatred i died a lot trying to parry him. Then i tried to fight him like a Souls Boss, and it worked perfectly. So maybe that's not the perfect example, i would say that Phase 2 of the Guardian Ape or even the Monk are better examples, because they have delayed attacks and if you spam block i'm pretty sure that you could get One shoted or almost

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Headless slow then fast attack is so annoying

Axe guys, big bois, headless, corrupted/true monk, their slow timing always throws me off

We've been trying to tell people for years