Self-Locking French Cleat Mount - How To

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Woodshop Junkies

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4 жыл бұрын

To better secure small and light french cleat mounts, I added a self-locking mechanism.
The purpose of the mechanism is to mimic the effects of the cleat being weighed down and so securing the french cleat.
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@suzieb7967
@suzieb7967 Жыл бұрын
the author does like to from scratch, shaping and trimming wood from large blocks into fine finished products. kzfaq.infoUgkxD-QRFQz730FJEh4f9BYSf-nkIMIC9hL_ as another reviewer mentioned, most projects require a lot of high-dollar equipment that most of us dont have the room or budget for. But, knowing how to do these things, even if we wont be able to practice the full stack project, is still great.
@Rusty_ok
@Rusty_ok 4 жыл бұрын
Great idea. The spring idea is cool but takes a lot of time to build. I used a spacer between to top of the movable cleat and the bottom of the next wall cleat. Cut a piece of wood so it fits pretty tight between the top of the shelf cleat and the bottom of the next wall cleat. Split it at about 3 degrees and slide the two pieces together so it wedges against the bottom of the higher wall cleat. Takes about two minutes to make and is easy to remove and reuse.
@dennislnbrewing
@dennislnbrewing 2 жыл бұрын
dood. That worktable is amazing. First 30 seconds of you opening that thing up: mind blown.
@MakersLane
@MakersLane 4 жыл бұрын
This dudes ideas are AMAZING. I want him to come design my shop!
@barbarianatgate2000
@barbarianatgate2000 4 жыл бұрын
If I weren't already older than you, I'd want to be you when I grow up! Seriously, brilliant solutions, as always. Love your channel.
@ImABoyMom4
@ImABoyMom4 4 жыл бұрын
I will echo my comment on your last video... you should have been an engineer! You come up with such creative solutions to problems, I love watching your videos! Thanks for spending the time to film your ideas and sharing them!!
@fredjeannieschultz1251
@fredjeannieschultz1251 4 жыл бұрын
The wall looks great, and your solution to a common problem with the French Cleat system is very creative and looks really great; but it seems to be very labor intensive. Last year I also dedicated a 16'x4' section to French Cleats backed with two sheets of plywood-it looks just like yours. I've found that most tool holders stay in place. My solution for keeping the smaller ones in place was to attach the cleat on the back of the tool holder about 1/2" down from the the top of the holder, leaving a 1/2" lip. I then slide a small block of wood behind that lip. That block fits snugly between the upper and lower cleats and is kept in place by the 1/2" lip. If the cleats on the wall are all the same distance apart, than all of the locking blocks will be interchangeable.
@nnamerz
@nnamerz 4 жыл бұрын
@monstercawk I'm pretty sure Fred meant labour intensive in comparison to other easier, yet effective solutions...some of which are posted in the other comments.
@pascaldenis4903
@pascaldenis4903 4 жыл бұрын
Excelent idea ! As a french woodworker i like watching your vidéo because i understand every words you say and you are very brillant ! i like the way you are able to find great solutions to problems.
@trickster11300
@trickster11300 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual. A simple idea, well presented and an excellent solution to the problem. I always look forward to your presentations.
@sunriseshell
@sunriseshell 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! I am definitely going to use this idea. I have French Cleats in my garage/shop and my office. Well done, thanks!
@yankeeredneck6947
@yankeeredneck6947 4 жыл бұрын
That is one cool idea, probably the best one I've seen in a while. I might have to build one or 6 myself. Thank you
@TheGbow0704
@TheGbow0704 4 жыл бұрын
Just when I think, "what other clever solutions could he possibility come up with", he posts another vid. I love it, nice job Jean, as usual
@jonnymo4728
@jonnymo4728 3 жыл бұрын
There are solutions & {~Solutions~}. Meaning functional & elaborate. The wood key is functional & low tech / low cost. The spring block solution is elegant & intricate. For me Wood Key WINS practical. The Spring Block WINS for innovation. Fortunately in problem solving there is need for both. Well done wood workers, thanks for sharing.
@Samcraftcom
@Samcraftcom 4 жыл бұрын
That is a great solution to one of the biggest headaches to french cleats! Plus it could double as a hand strength workout jig. :) Haha!
@lisakelley9451
@lisakelley9451 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool! You have succeeded in making a "better mousetrap", so to speak. good work!
@igorkrstic8060
@igorkrstic8060 5 ай бұрын
One more thing I have to do for myself! Your ideas are a great refresher for YT. Thanks, I enjoy watching your every video clip
@58DamagedGoods
@58DamagedGoods 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent. I will add this to my tool van. Already use French cleats to hold my tools and parts bins, but this would be an added security measure when I’m driving down a country road. The weight seems to hold things down, but one never knows...
@patrickweckermann9121
@patrickweckermann9121 4 жыл бұрын
As some others have mentioned you have totally hit this from an engineers perspective. Light load, needs to be quick and easy to reposition, but secure when it is in position. The best I can come up with is add an angle to both sides of the cleat. Other ideas include a wedge or pin to lock things in place, but are nowheres near as flexible as this. Great work!
@nnamerz
@nnamerz 4 жыл бұрын
I don't quite follow what you mean. Would you mind giving me any further details? Thank you in advance.
@bartgoins1782
@bartgoins1782 4 жыл бұрын
A double sided cleat is exactly the thought I had.
@robwagner2789
@robwagner2789 4 жыл бұрын
For one or two specialized items that's a very nice solution. And, as usual, a great video. For more flexibility you may want to consider something that isn't "fixed" to a specific cleat mount. Some people use a stop block *above* the cleat mount, but your spacing has to be perfect for that to be universal, and there's likely to be some wiggle over time. Find a way to make a block that squeezes tightly into those spaces - and still be easy to remove - and you'll be able to lock down any of them. I'm thinking maybe opposing wedges drawn together with cam lever of come kind.
@rogerlareau7621
@rogerlareau7621 4 жыл бұрын
Great solution for locking it in place 👍 you come up with the best ideas thanks for that.
@snappertrx
@snappertrx 4 жыл бұрын
Super cool and useful. Looks fun to put together and doesn't defeat the purpose of the clear system, which, to me, is more about versatility and not constantly shuffling things around. I'll have to give it a go!
@bowhunter1842
@bowhunter1842 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! This will be great for heavier tools. Love it.
@onegreenev
@onegreenev 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. Easy to do and not too complex. Secure way to hold your gear and a great idea for the camera mount. I think two springs would be enough to hold securely and if you had a reverse french cleat you could lock it from both ends. Bottom cleat could be built smaller in your original design to utilize a locking mechanism just for this purpose. I will utilize this for my camera work directly over my bench.
@WiliamBennettwildarbennett
@WiliamBennettwildarbennett 4 жыл бұрын
Well I've read a majority of the detractors of your A'ha moment, saying do this or that...BUT I DONT SEE ANY WHERE THAT THEY SUBMITTED A VIDEO TRYING TO IMPROVE ON IT. So thanks for sharing your experiment with the rest of us who will actually put this concept into use.👍
@NeoMorphUK
@NeoMorphUK 4 жыл бұрын
Armchair quarterbacks... the bane of the internet. But if it “A. Works” and “B. You are satisfied with it” then it doesn’t matter what anyone else thinks. I kind of like what this guy has done... maybe not used the middle spring and possibly added some paste wax for lube on the bolts... but generally keep it the same. It is, after all, a prototype. I had an “expert” armchair QB CNC maker claim that all Openbuilds and Shapeoko CNC machines are overpriced junk and said making your own from scratch is better... yet when I asked him what I could do to improve on my Openbuilds Ox CNC... he went quiet... only to later start whining that something else I did was over complicated... and then suggested a really stupid method in place of what was actually is suggested by the manufacturer. Experts... yeah, right. I don’t argue... I just put them on ignore.
@Iosifavich
@Iosifavich 4 жыл бұрын
Most of the suggestions i have seen are quite reasonable. I wedge or cam lock would be easier to implement and probably do to the same or better job at holding the cleat in place. Something like in the link below on the bottom/back of the cleat with lock nut would allow him to quickly and easily lock-unlock. So instead of a complicated spring with guides system he only needs a bolt with a large nut that he can righting by hand. www.myerswoodshop.com/blog/clamps
@jessjulian9458
@jessjulian9458 4 жыл бұрын
Cool addition to the cleat wall. Great idea.
@sihTdaeRtnaCuoY
@sihTdaeRtnaCuoY 2 жыл бұрын
It's probably a little bit over-engineered, but it also seems to work well. I actually think you got the spring tension right. I love how tight and secure it is. Definitely not something you need for every item you hang on the French cleat system, but it seems to work great for some applications.
@DarrenGerbrandt
@DarrenGerbrandt 4 жыл бұрын
That is a fantastic idea, beats some of the things I have done to lock the cleats in place, will definitely be using this method.
@resurrectionmotors2421
@resurrectionmotors2421 4 жыл бұрын
That's pretty clever, I can definitely see me using that tip in the near future thoroughly enjoy your Channel
@silverfox-59
@silverfox-59 Жыл бұрын
Great idea, love the way your workshop is set up. Thank you.
@thesimplegamesman7951
@thesimplegamesman7951 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome design! Best locking mechanism I have seen for a fremch cleat!
@clydescott2535
@clydescott2535 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea to make an already good storage system very sturdy. Awesome!
@debraprice7451
@debraprice7451 4 жыл бұрын
I think you are absolutely brilliant!! Great idea to make a good system even better. Thanks for your ingenuity. I will be using your idea in my new shop. 🙏🏻
@topsaw
@topsaw 4 жыл бұрын
Great ideas, love the video. Spent time in Pretoria growing up so love the accent.
@JK-qm8ps
@JK-qm8ps 4 жыл бұрын
Nice Video, very clever idea, I can see myself using the self locking mechanism for small french cleat mounts in my work shed 👍👍
@xdeadwrongxdeadwrong7181
@xdeadwrongxdeadwrong7181 4 жыл бұрын
This is an awesome idea. Could be mass marketed....a simpler version of your idea would be 2 pivot locks , one per corner. Just attached with 1 screw. Turn to lock , turn to unlock. But your spring loaded cleat idea is definitely impressive. I'm sure there are other ways it could be done. I personally would use your idea, it seems to be of good quality, and possibly could stand up to daily use, but probably meant to not be removed on a regular basis which is another plus. Meaning it would last that much longer. What a great video, thanks for making these great videos and ideas, I for one appreciate the work you do.
@9and7
@9and7 2 жыл бұрын
Smart. Very smart. Well done and I know this will only get better.
@Graeme408
@Graeme408 4 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Maryland. Excellent solution. Keep up with your store, you have some helpful, practical and not overly priced tools; and who doesn’t like a new tool? I am a Bosch user which is good to see in your store. I just bought the countersink pilot drills. Keep up the good work.
@Rizla46
@Rizla46 4 жыл бұрын
Hi from Greece, I am also a carpenter, We use that system on shelves without the spring a lot, and i think it is enough to hold any weight, But your way is perfect for some strange customers that they don't want it just hanging, a bit more secured in their mind, nice video.
@markforrestsm
@markforrestsm 4 жыл бұрын
Great solution to meet with a specific need. I would trim the bottom of the board so that it impacts as few of the cleats below.. You have a great imagination for solutions..
@rhjiv4
@rhjiv4 3 жыл бұрын
Utterly ingenious and delightful!
@norbertr823
@norbertr823 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Jean ! Always enjoy finding South African creators, really like what you're doing ! Howzit from Jozi !
@bradleyjohnson452
@bradleyjohnson452 4 жыл бұрын
Very creative. I was thinking about something similar but with the locking mechanism upside down and including another piece with a 45 degree angle to lock into the lower cleat. Basically two cleats the lower one is spring loaded
@CLove511
@CLove511 2 жыл бұрын
A nice thought, but it won't work. If the spring is pushing down into the lower cleat, it will actually be pushing the whole assembly upward. If you do it to the strip above, you don't even need a mechanical force -- just a removable piece the exact size of the gap.
@liamshelley
@liamshelley 3 жыл бұрын
Have seen a few solutions to this problem, most of them are simpler to implement, but your method is way cooler and more professional. Definitely worth the effort in building. Imagine you could make these pretty quickly if you set up a production line. Thanks as for sharing!
@stewartstewartstewart
@stewartstewartstewart 4 жыл бұрын
Such a great idea. I shall be using this to secure a LED panel to my wall 👌🏼
@roberthoyle6442
@roberthoyle6442 3 жыл бұрын
Simple and brilliant ! I am, (was) looking for a way to secure a cantilevered arm to support and mobilize a support a dust collection hose. I have already built a gimbled overhead storage unit from your design. Thank you for your videos and designs. Well done 👍.
@adrianocomo6838
@adrianocomo6838 4 жыл бұрын
Questa è veramente un'ottima idea. La realizzerò nel prossimo weekend. Il miglior sistema per contrastare la fretta e far cadere tutto. Bravissimo e grazie!
@vksubra1953
@vksubra1953 3 жыл бұрын
I like the idea. I have one suggestion. Instead of letting the spring press on the bottom of the top cleat, why don't you get it to lock on top of the next cleat. All you have to do is turn the "moving spring block" around. This will lock into the 45° French cleat and will give you a firm grip, which will not be dependent on the strength of the spring.
@kennyknackers6084
@kennyknackers6084 Жыл бұрын
Going down you can also just use guides and gravity!
@leblancexplores
@leblancexplores 6 ай бұрын
You’re guaranteed the cleat your on is the only reason it’s so it to the cleat you’re on.
@gregstephens2339
@gregstephens2339 3 жыл бұрын
This is perfect for my box trucks! I would had a bevel on the bottom of the french cleat as well to provide two locking surfaces.
@mikeygee2465
@mikeygee2465 4 жыл бұрын
Very clever idea. Definitely a need for it.
@philipjones9297
@philipjones9297 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant, as ever. 👍👍👍
@Welshrugbyfan101
@Welshrugbyfan101 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. Thanks for sharing. I can see applications in some situations.
@kevinrico1194
@kevinrico1194 3 жыл бұрын
Looks great ! Helpful and for sure useful
@RealGeorg3
@RealGeorg3 2 жыл бұрын
This is an impressive solution. Good work.
@tomasdelira7004
@tomasdelira7004 4 жыл бұрын
Great idea. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
@douglasadrian138
@douglasadrian138 4 жыл бұрын
I love this...in fact, incorporating your locking system would be the only way I'd do a cleat system in my workshop. I love the flexibility but dislike the chance for tools to fall off because they are not secured. Same concept with peg board. I'd rather have cabinets and drawers and label as needed. Thanks for the tips - it is a joy to see you work and expand your workshop.
@clutions
@clutions 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome -- The main reason I've never been a fan of French Cleats! -- Might have to change my mind on French Cleats!
@kathrynnewton8721
@kathrynnewton8721 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent, I lot of work though, just watched one on 3 locking mechanisms that may be a lot simpler, but sure you had a lot of fun!
@farmermike9262
@farmermike9262 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work. Another channel suggests using a dowel to act as a locking pin protruding out from the face going thru to the wall just under the cleat. Quick and dirty and far less superior but some of us are short on time lol
@gateway8833
@gateway8833 4 жыл бұрын
I think this is a brilliant solution.
@leroybrown6657
@leroybrown6657 3 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome. I really like that idea and I may use that on my next hanging rack project
@veepsgarage
@veepsgarage 4 жыл бұрын
Great solution. Keeps from having to screw the brackets in every time you want to move something.
@RADCOMJ1
@RADCOMJ1 4 жыл бұрын
thats such a brilliant idea for heavier things...nice design
@BronkBuilt
@BronkBuilt 4 жыл бұрын
Very, very clever. Nice job!
@roubaix1962
@roubaix1962 4 жыл бұрын
You always have great ideas keep up the good work!
@classicalguitarstudent9562
@classicalguitarstudent9562 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, that's a seriously smart solution.
@oglaucio
@oglaucio 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! As an improvement, you could also add handles on each side to make it "front mounting" instead of pushing from the bottom.
@dgpuig45
@dgpuig45 3 жыл бұрын
You did good. A good secure camera base will eliminate the little worry in the back of your mind about your expensive equipment falling and being damaged, plus it looks very professional.
@gardenrailroading
@gardenrailroading 4 жыл бұрын
I love the design, I may do something similar. thank you
@shawnbond1975
@shawnbond1975 4 жыл бұрын
Your solution works and is very creative. I either slide a spacer in from the side to prevent lifting or I just drive a screw into the cleat to prevent all movement. If I want to move the holder, both methods only take a second to undo/redo.
@docprune9922
@docprune9922 2 жыл бұрын
Strip of ply above the cleat?? Ingenious. Material and time intensive. Guess you like doing the things the longest way possible
@KitoMarchetaria
@KitoMarchetaria 4 жыл бұрын
Simple and very good ! 👍
@nonenoone7567
@nonenoone7567 4 жыл бұрын
good idea love the out of the box thinking
@maxximumb
@maxximumb 4 жыл бұрын
Great idea. I'd add a handle to the spring loaded section so it could be disengaged without having to move the entire mount. Once the mount has the weight of the boom arm and camera, it may be too unwieldy to easily unmount. Thanks for sharing, It's given me a few ideas to think about for my own workshop.
@BossSpringsteen69
@BossSpringsteen69 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I will build this. Very useful fo the shop.
@mikehill3426
@mikehill3426 4 жыл бұрын
I do like the idea. It's fun. If it was going to be a hook I didn't move often, I'd want a simpler solution. If it was going to be a hook I did move often, I'd want it to be easier to use.
@yakovzargarov
@yakovzargarov 4 жыл бұрын
AMAZING BEAUTIFUL WORK!!!
@tombrady7762
@tombrady7762 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, genius. Well done
@TheWrinkledCheese
@TheWrinkledCheese 4 жыл бұрын
I saw several other solutions. I don't think any of them were as expensive as this one. However, the convenience of permanent affixation of the locking mechanism is a bonus. The solution I favoured used one bottom block attached to the fixture, and a long progressive wedge is taped into/out of place.
@wayneblalock87
@wayneblalock87 4 жыл бұрын
Very good idea, prevents spillage
@joegarrison8611
@joegarrison8611 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic idea.
@sui24fu
@sui24fu 3 жыл бұрын
This is the first of your videos that I've run across. Your French cleat mount looks ingenious. I'm going to check out your other videos and subscribe based on this video. Keep up he great work.
@thisisdanpearce
@thisisdanpearce 4 жыл бұрын
You could try a cam on a pivot with a lever. Lever horizontal pokes out the side and the cam has enough room to let the cleat release. Push the lever to vertical twists the cam to be tight against the rail. No springs required.
@dscrive
@dscrive 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, glad I scrolled down a bit, that was my thought as an alternative method.
@adamcarr8738
@adamcarr8738 4 жыл бұрын
The proof of concept with the springs is good; however, Dan’s a cam lock mechanism idea seems a bit more user friendly in the long run… Great Channel BTW!
@markdavies3151
@markdavies3151 4 жыл бұрын
This sort of thing or an even simpler wedge tapped in above it were my thoughts but the wedge would be a seperate piece and require a tool to install whereas the cam would have its own handle and be self sufficient so I’d take the slight complexity for the ease of use. 👍
@jeremyspecce
@jeremyspecce 4 жыл бұрын
This is kind of what I was thinking, too. Kind of like a camera tripod plate, you could even have it spring loaded so it snaps shut when you engage it, but that would be needlessly complicated.
@brennanfrazier7834
@brennanfrazier7834 4 жыл бұрын
Spring loaded pins lighter springs plus the pins would be stronger
@peterlisyak5396
@peterlisyak5396 4 жыл бұрын
Top idea simple and functional way to go
@andrewbrown8148
@andrewbrown8148 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool idea~! Yeah, it may be over-built, but it looks like a fun exercise in creativity.
@MrJohnnyboyrebel
@MrJohnnyboyrebel 4 жыл бұрын
I faced the same problem and solved it by making small wedges that are slipped in above the mounting and between the cleat above it. When I want to move the mounting, it’s a simple matter of pushing the wedge out, repositioning the mounting and slipping the wedge back in. Virtually no other hardware is necessary, and two wedges can be used from both ends of the mounting if more holding power is needed.
@vigilante004
@vigilante004 4 жыл бұрын
Nice. Everything you make is awesome.
@fixitwithzim
@fixitwithzim 4 жыл бұрын
I’m liking it man, nice work. Found your channel today from a group on Facebook.
@travistravis7190
@travistravis7190 4 жыл бұрын
Looks good to me bro, you nailed it
@UnarmedZombie
@UnarmedZombie 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool and a smart solution. To simplify it, get rid of the guide bolts. The bolts the springs are on are good enough. If you do keep the guide bolts, you don't have to cut the heads off because only one end has to move freely anyway.
@cuttysark7934
@cuttysark7934 Жыл бұрын
Nice idea! There are situation where I see this may be good for: 1) when lateral access is limited like in a crowded space where removing / inserting wedge or wood block may be difficult, 2) items that do not need to be removed frequently, 3) and items that need secure and tight mount (ie portable hinged lights, expensive Bluetooth speaker, etc..). Thanks for sharing!
@BushFireBrand
@BushFireBrand 4 жыл бұрын
Forgot to switch the vacuum on when you were using your compound mitre saw 😜 Love your vids. Great content
@fgoogle7955
@fgoogle7955 Жыл бұрын
I like the idea, nice work!
@gregnewberry1147
@gregnewberry1147 4 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy watching your videos brother, very entertaining and provide food for thought and imagination. Congrats on your silver plaque, you deserve it. Keep up the interesting videos, looking forward to your new ideas this year.
@johnandress1233
@johnandress1233 4 жыл бұрын
That is one clever idea, no doubt we will be seeing knock-off versions here on KZfaq soon.
@greghercher2068
@greghercher2068 4 жыл бұрын
This is genius and I love it
@SKTWoodDesign
@SKTWoodDesign 4 жыл бұрын
great thinking there. Well done.
@johnmav8309
@johnmav8309 4 жыл бұрын
Very good and super! Thank you for idea! The best!
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 4 жыл бұрын
Very good idea. You wont have to do it to everything just stuff you need to move occasionally. For the camera mount. I used to have a stage lighting spot light. It had an extendable accordian style arm with a spherical base attachment. The spherical base was tight enough to hold in place without a lock bolt and the accordian arm was stiff also. Move it to a position and it stayed there.
@georgechard1030
@georgechard1030 3 жыл бұрын
Now, for us old gran-pas, design a captured spring suspension system for a wooden soap box car, independent system. Thanks, A+ for the demonstration speech.
@INSIDEHARDWARE
@INSIDEHARDWARE 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome idea!
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