DIY CNC electromagnet For the first time, make a video. Will improve the effect later! Machining centre electromagnetic suckers made from three microwave ovens transformers! Power 12V current 3~6 A
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@freon5004 жыл бұрын
Yours is the best. Thank you for all the work and the recording and the editing and the posting. I'll be making one for a drill press.
@przesympatyczny4 жыл бұрын
Podoba mi się to wykonanie i ogólnie cały przekaz bardzo czytelny 👌🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Brawo!
@XiQian_TECH Жыл бұрын
非常有意义的再制作
@chrismoore73594 жыл бұрын
Nice work brother. Sure beats recycling the copper for a one time payout!
@rca7591a4 жыл бұрын
This project was a thing of beauty. In a manly way. Especially the face milling and surface grinding.
@aaronhouse66354 жыл бұрын
O(∩_∩)O~
@EngAryPrado4 жыл бұрын
Excelent work! LIKE IT, best regards from Brazil, Ary Prado
@scroungasworkshop46633 жыл бұрын
It works well but it’s way over engineered. I’ve made a lot of these so I’m posting this information to help others. No disrespect meant. Three welds on each side and four on the bottom of the core was an unnecessary waste and actually made your magnet less efficient. Any welding of the laminated core should be kept to the absolute minimum as transformers use laminate metal pieces to reduce eddy currents that build up heat in the core which wastes power and reduces efficiency. That’s why the original welds are just enough to hold the laminates together. If you take more care removing the copper coils using a press you don’t need any welding as the core will stay in one piece. Welding the cores to the base is again a waste of time and effort and again interferes with the magnet’s performance. A drop of super glue to hold the cores in place is more than enough. Adding chopped mat fibreglass is unnecessary as the resin is more than strong enough. I add a thermal switch to the centre core to shut the power of if it gets too hot. Most microwave ovens have two of these so you can grab those as well when getting the transformer. An indicator light is also a good idea so you don’t leave it on when your finished. I’ve also added an original manual microwave timer ⏲ for one I made for a drill press so even if I do forget I can hear the ticking or it shuts off automatically when the timer goes off. None of this is rocket science and if using 12-24 volts is very safe and most of the parts are free. I hope this helps, cheers Stuart 🇦🇺
@rct23 жыл бұрын
Did you use the primary or secondary windings? Great video.
@jasonstrong46103 жыл бұрын
Great! Regards from Australia.
@lionelroger6264 жыл бұрын
Bravo de FRANCE!!!!!
@Aleksandr3404 жыл бұрын
Всё гениальное просто.! А простое гениально.!
@jackrichards18632 жыл бұрын
much room for improvement, yes. A very interesting item to build which , appears to be reasonably sound in your effort. Does more coils not equal more strength of the magnetic response to a current? I give you the thumbs up, for the effort . I will be doing a lot of research and then try to build a very strong and dependable version.
@STV-th2tv4 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing excellent
@nirmo13992 жыл бұрын
Film OK and .....................NICE TRANCE :)
@ZAProjects4 жыл бұрын
Really extreme job super like 👍👍👍
@Imagineering1004 жыл бұрын
Good job I like the cat makes my day .
@succulenthotdog12044 жыл бұрын
That was good, thanks!
@ershvv75674 жыл бұрын
5:55 можно было срезать магнитопроводы (сердечники), и потоньше была бы и мощнее !!!
@estebanbellegarde5975 Жыл бұрын
Desde Argentina. Felicitaciones. Pregunta de principiante. ¿Que diferencia hay entre usar un transformador o dos? Muchas gracias.
@dnr98864 жыл бұрын
That's a really nice compound table on the mill. More info and videos of this your equipment officially requested.
@aaronhouse66354 жыл бұрын
OK
@TheBegby714 жыл бұрын
That resin looks like it got very hot when curing, must have smelled great
@aaronhouse66354 жыл бұрын
It's very pungent
@55536404 жыл бұрын
Excellent work for machenical lovers
@151065omar4 жыл бұрын
Bueno, esos transformadores de hornos micro-hondas, pra hacer un electroiman de potencia, tiene varias apricacones, en un modesto taller, aqui para levantar peso.
@ailtonsouza37434 жыл бұрын
IS Very Nice Very good fantastic 👍
@tomyoung20652 жыл бұрын
For anyone worrying about eddy currents, don’t, he’s using DC.
@TheTkiller99993 жыл бұрын
I hope that this build gave you what you wanted... but I would not recommend welding the laminated steel core (like you did multiple times).. you see there is a reason that laminated steel is used.... the lamination allows the magnetic flux to travel better.. so you get a stronger electro magnet.....
@ForeverTechh4 жыл бұрын
nice work
@davidrobinson71124 жыл бұрын
I truely love the informational/instructional videos on KZfaq. THIS MAKES UP FOR THE FAILURE OF THE US EDUCATION'S INEPTITUDE AND LACK OF USEFUL INSTRUCTION/EDUCATION....
@ramawadh21174 жыл бұрын
Nice work
@joabdesousa39554 жыл бұрын
Very good!
@ThePaoligno904 жыл бұрын
You should not weld the transformer cores. Have you ever wondered why they are laminated (and insulated)? It is done to reduce the formation of eddy currents inside the core and reduce the losses and the heat created in the core.
@darkomiljkovic3 жыл бұрын
Transformatori od mikrotalasnih pećnica su uglavnom zavareni u fabrici. Prilikom rastavljanja transformatora, brusio je var da bi rastavio transfomator.
@galaxystar5274 жыл бұрын
How do you prevent your coils from getting hot?thank you for the video👍
@janami-dharmam4 жыл бұрын
That is the reason for using the LV side of the coil; it makes less heat
@tomharrell19544 жыл бұрын
Great job!! Have you experimented with different coils and AC and DC current ?
@aaronhouse66354 жыл бұрын
Higher voltage can increase power. But security is not guaranteed!
@mabul5133 жыл бұрын
Did the switch on off work? If not what was the problem? Can you use just cables in resin and on off switch on outside 24v at 10 amps? Or 240 at 1 amp. What'd be too hot as saw different types and best voltage for 3 of these in series? Or 2 as 3 is bit too much but have 3 exact models that's meant to be good?. 12 volts 10 /20 amp or big 240 plug and full mains power to them in series?
@wesleialmeida28774 жыл бұрын
Belas máquinas.
@ederangelo214 жыл бұрын
best regards,,,Éder Brazil
@aaronhouse66354 жыл бұрын
Éder S. Thank you
@rivoneudomauricio97504 жыл бұрын
Que voltagem você alimentou os TR?
@shoaibjani81963 жыл бұрын
Video is very good
@user-pu2yp5re7j4 жыл бұрын
Why is the magnet not used in making concrete structures molds in buildings!!!!
@andrewhoward72004 жыл бұрын
Very nice.
@edstone41264 жыл бұрын
Do you think it would make the magnet any stronger if you used iron fillings/shavings, instead of fiberglass set in the epoxy resin?
@aaronhouse66354 жыл бұрын
It will affect the adsorption effect
@ElChokin4 жыл бұрын
Muy bueno.
4 жыл бұрын
Ótimo trabalho
@constantincascaescu19263 жыл бұрын
Hello, ... at what voltage is it supplied ... ??? .. 220v ... ??? ... thank you ... congratulations ... !!!
@mabul5133 жыл бұрын
Is there more strength if chopped down to primary coil or putting smaller slits on the top and pushing primary up so more surface area. Or cutting them down to primary coil height so it very low? Less steel? Air gaps? Asked previously but no school teachers or electromagnet workers answered! Best way to get most magnetic power from mot? Cut in half to primary? Leave and push primary to top with 2/3 mm cuts in i bar for surface area or take off i use as is? Someone must be knowledgeable about this!
@gjdunga3 жыл бұрын
Wait, by wielding the E-core are you not getting rid of the entire reason the core is laminated sheets? Does this not induce eddy currents in your setup? Or is this only in AC?
@1966cambo Жыл бұрын
No, eddy currents are an issue with AC not DC
@user-ps8vc8xv9y2 жыл бұрын
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@user-nr4yc8nz7d3 жыл бұрын
Best
@TONG-CHANNEL3 жыл бұрын
Hello brother 👌🔔💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
@kde5fan7374 жыл бұрын
Have you tried a higher voltage? Also is the power supply current limited, or is that just what it draws naturally? Are you using a battery or a plug in power supply? I'd be interested in testing this to see how much weight it can hold and then doing it with a variable power supply. on another note, I wonder what would happen if you used the high voltage side and connected it to rectified 120vac (which would be about 170vdc). I'm guessing it would work the same, IDK if magnetism has more to do with current or wattage.
@cocosloan37484 жыл бұрын
Yeah he dont understand English dude LOL Whatever you write he just gives a like and moves along :)
@janami-dharmam4 жыл бұрын
Just rectification will not do; you also need to filter them. But better is to connect the coils in series and use a higher voltage.
@islamraouf1856 Жыл бұрын
@@cocosloan3748 Moves along yea, he didn't give a like to yours though.
@arspro4 жыл бұрын
👍
@user-sm3fq2tv9p4 жыл бұрын
да , китай тоже горазд на всякие штуки ))
@amarieicristianhoratiu79984 жыл бұрын
Bravo from Italia
@tawficyakubu51162 жыл бұрын
Nice work, what chemical do you used to ceiled it?
@aaronhouse66352 жыл бұрын
Resin
@oh8wingman3 жыл бұрын
You would have a lot better luck with that TIG torch if you were to lead with the electrode instead of trailing with it.TIG will not penetrate properly and your weld cosmetics will suffer when you trail the electrode.
@hankpikuni70243 жыл бұрын
I dont understand why the clamps are necessary?
@marktrade70764 жыл бұрын
How Voltase its work?
@russbilzing53484 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that the transformer cores could be cut down a bit less than halfway in order to make a shorter profile and not use up valuable operating space.
@aaronhouse66354 жыл бұрын
good
@ShrKhAan3 жыл бұрын
Manufacture quality very good, you might get mor magnetic force (probably double) if you add copper in between the air gaps, it blocks B force in air gap, hence much stronger Field on top surface if you fill air gap with copper bars (no magnetic short, all exposed on top)
@MarcoFerranti684 жыл бұрын
Good job! But for best magnetic performance, I thing that the magnetic sheets steel must not be welded together, they must be pressed together but not electrically connected.
@johncochran84974 жыл бұрын
Not really. The reason that transformers use laminated cores is to reduce eddy current losses in the transformer. But for a simple electromagnet? Not needed. The biggest change he could do to increase the holding force on the electromagnet would be to use DC instead of AC by using a rectifier. And once he's using DC, eddy currents are not a concern.
@jaspermcconnell64174 жыл бұрын
@@johncochran8497 I suspect that AC is used to keep from making the table permanent magnet. Just a guess.
@johncochran84974 жыл бұрын
@@jaspermcconnell6417 There are electromagnetic chucks that use either AC or DC. The main feature that is desired for either design is low retentivity for the core so that when power is removed, the chuck let's go. And, comparing both designs, the DC ones have a greater holding power than the AC varieties.
@happyfox7114 жыл бұрын
you are right, it would maybe run cooler if the power supply deliver pulsed DC (as opposed to DC from a battery f.ex.) In this video they use 12V 18Amp DC from a power supply I've never seen, so I don't know the specs on that one. It all depends on the width of the pulses etc. But if you use real DC it should not matter as others pointed out. In fact, then the field could be made 5-10% stronger with a massive, more pure iron core. The lamination he welds together(on the bottom) he takes away completely afterwards anyway, the ones on the sides stay and would produce more heat if use DC pulsed(like from a cheap switching transformer) or AC.
@charetjc4 жыл бұрын
@@happyfox711 Isn't there a concern that the magnetic field lets go of the part with pulsed DC? I would think a constant current source would provide constant holding force, while AC and pulsed DC would have varying holding force.
@franklinauw57874 жыл бұрын
In english version, pls ??
@dpi78924 жыл бұрын
Теперь сетевой провод строго беречь.
@ft04764 жыл бұрын
😊👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@peterkapusotto7774 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍😀
@kisahklasik28243 жыл бұрын
Nice cat🤣
@clubedaluta102 жыл бұрын
QUERIDO, MT GRATO E PARABÉNS! ME TIRE UMA DÚVIDA POR GENTILEZA... TENHO ALGUNS TRAFOS DE MICROONDAS, UNS RECEBEM A CARGA DE 12V E MANTEM O MAGNETISMO... OUTRAS RECEBEM A CARGA E O MAGNETISMO DURA APENAS 3 SEGUNDOS E DEPOIS PERDE O MAGNESTISMO... PODE ME EXPLICAR POR GENTILEZA? MT GRATO!
@firstbloodstyle4 жыл бұрын
Do you use 12volts input for the transformer? Interesting.
@highclass30413 жыл бұрын
So the dude can like your comment like he read it but then completely avoid the entire question....lol
@zbsbees64823 жыл бұрын
Because he read it but not understood
@highclass30413 жыл бұрын
@@zbsbees6482 the question mark didn't give it away?? U sound like you might be his brother
@serhatsarkus17383 жыл бұрын
Hello. I used 12 volts and 12.5 currents. It got too hot after 20 minutes of operation. If I lower the current value, would I use it longer? Will I experience a decrease in my usage power? How much current should I use at most?
@vinu-zu9qg Жыл бұрын
Try using 10 amps of current at 12v
@claybornlewis2764 жыл бұрын
Which coil did you keep the one with the big wires or the one with the Little wires
@johnrudd95504 жыл бұрын
You need to retain the primary coil, the one connected to the mains supply, the secondary coil is the one that is used for the hv supply for the magnetron...
@claybornlewis2764 жыл бұрын
@@johnrudd9550 I asked my question in a manner in which I was hoping you would receive an answer it back to me in baby talk... as I do not understand which is the primary and whatever else you were saying. 1 coil is made from small wire and one coil is made from Big wire... which one do I keep the one made from the thick wire or the one made from the thin wire.....?
@johnrudd95504 жыл бұрын
Ahh...sorry, in that case you need the thick wire wound coil for this project...usually it is the coil on the bottom...if that helps you...
@aaronhouse66354 жыл бұрын
The coil can indeed be considered for replacement. But the other coil of the microwave oven transformer is often broken. And the winding takes time.
@OurFoodWorld14 жыл бұрын
How did you adhesive this what is this gel
@youtube-handle-are-a-joke4 жыл бұрын
Looks like Epoxy or polyurethane resin with fiberglass reinforcement.
@piotrekpereki11794 жыл бұрын
brawo
@electroshock31244 жыл бұрын
Everybody can do that at home
@jaspermcconnell64174 жыл бұрын
Hahaha. I'm only short a mill, a surface grinder, gallon of fiberglass resin and some time. Can probably find three identical transformers(not)
@tadhgoconnor28474 жыл бұрын
I have a 12v charger cable rated for 14v 1am will this work?
@aaronhouse66354 жыл бұрын
Constant current is required. Otherwise, there is overheating
@mabul5133 жыл бұрын
1 6000watt mot. Or oven. Arc welder need advice on ballast. 10mm2 wire 5m to wind but unsure how to control amps.
@TigerCarpenter2 жыл бұрын
all I need now is to buy that LARGE MILLING MACHINE nd I'll be good
@lesstime16784 жыл бұрын
how many gauss,maxwell ,,,,or even Oersted's can help ,,,I need per square cm to left 1 kilogram ? ,give me the answer please,,, i need that to give to my student's on a science projects ,,i know the formulas but i"m to lazy to deal with math now ,
@williamliu98094 жыл бұрын
这又是数控铣床又是磨床的一般人克做不出这精度,还有为什么往树脂里加纤维 硬度不够吗?
@aaronhouse66354 жыл бұрын
William Liu 震动比较大
@debuti4 жыл бұрын
Nice video, what is that white paste?
@aaronhouse66354 жыл бұрын
Chisco Garcia Gonzalez Silicon grease
@TheAnalogKid24 жыл бұрын
I believe Thermal Paste makes more sense.
@michalkotulak49484 жыл бұрын
Why have to be used?
@MegaLostOne4 жыл бұрын
Interesting vid other than the music, ruins video's for educational purposes in my opinion.
@maxm57684 жыл бұрын
respect
@EIMAHR.M.S Жыл бұрын
Por que invierte los cables en la última unión?
@ctprjcstv39984 жыл бұрын
How much is the maximum magnetic force?
@aaronhouse66354 жыл бұрын
Safety considerations. Low voltage does not give full play to power
@raymondvillain4 жыл бұрын
What are the clamps for? (About 9:00 minutes)
@invertoveritas65364 жыл бұрын
To fix E-shape plates.
@highclass30413 жыл бұрын
Yeah cause they apparently didn't work if they were meant to keep the magnets centered together
@peterciurea77714 жыл бұрын
Why do all MOT to Electromagnet videos use the thicker gauge winding and toss the thinner one? Electromagnet power comes from the number of turns, not the wire gauge.
@aaronhouse66354 жыл бұрын
Fault transformer, damaged secondary winding
@charetjc4 жыл бұрын
Magnetic field strength is determined by number of windings (turns) and current. Larger gauge wire can handle more current due to lower resistance. Not sure which is more efficient though.
@peterciurea77714 жыл бұрын
@@charetjcMagnetomotive force is a direct result of turns times the amps. So each contributes the same. It depends on the max amps a given wire gauge can handle. Still, you'd think given the usual 10x difference in turns, would be a 10X magnet strength gain and and the fact the coils end up getting potted in epoxy, it ought to be able to withstand a little overdriving - All that tells me you ought to be able to get a decent electromagnet at the max amp value. I suppose it depends on the specific case.
@viciriucandreea58353 жыл бұрын
Ok felicitari
@ezequielskverer91734 жыл бұрын
Hey how you doing? I’m trying to check if there is any possibility that a magnet will push metal?
@tomharrell19544 жыл бұрын
ezequiel skverer yeah it will but it’s kinda erratic. Wrap a coil around a nail and make a simple electromagnet
@ezequielskverer91734 жыл бұрын
@@tomharrell1954 thank you very much for your comment, how can i contact you?
@tomharrell19544 жыл бұрын
ezequiel skverer pharmacyman@att.net
@ezequielskverer91734 жыл бұрын
@@tomharrell1954 i have send you an email
@infonator14 жыл бұрын
What you ought to do is find a way to redirect microwaves to make safe areas in our homes. In other words designated phone and wifi areas so we don't get the 5 and 6g. I think it's got something to do with waveguides? I'll be a subscriber for sure!!!
@aaronhouse66354 жыл бұрын
yes。I will pay more attention to details in the future video
@elidari603 жыл бұрын
Nice video I do not understand the The wiring do you have any diagram of the wiring thank you
@aaronhouse66353 жыл бұрын
Coils in parallel 12V DC
@elidari603 жыл бұрын
Diagram
@elidari603 жыл бұрын
And video seven minutes and 10 seconds shows green and yellow wires are the green altogether and the yellows are all together
@jameslu61154 жыл бұрын
这些个工具要有个小机械厂才行。你自己有个小工厂吗?在广东 ?
@jameslu61154 жыл бұрын
这个工作时是一直要用电的吧。
@aaronhouse66354 жыл бұрын
@@jameslu6115 是的。。。。断电会发生意外哦
@hadzicana14 жыл бұрын
umesto muzike mogao je nesto i da progovori , ako zna da prica ? koja je zaptivna masa ? u kom je odnosu katalizator ? , i jos ponesto ....
@aaronhouse66354 жыл бұрын
my English is poor. I will add subtitles in the future
@yahyaaldhukair79483 жыл бұрын
Poor explaination of what is going on . Any new step should be explained and show the names of the materials used. Anyway, thanks gfor sharing knowledge. Regards.