Agreed, would be a nice resource for GMs since there is always one person in a group that doesn't want to read the background.

Agreed specifically since I have a hard time deciding where my character come from.

This does help a lot, much better then reading the players guide. I’m surprised paizo doesn’t do this with first a player/gm introduction to the adventure path to get gist of things then have the pdf players guide as reference.

Agreed

This definitely needs to become a series. As a DM who has run this campaign, I can say you’ve done an excellent job with not spoiling too much. In fact, what you have spoiled should be, in my opinion, common knowledge for any potential player or DM before play even begins. It’s the kind of information that makes choosing what to be/play much less ominous and intimidating in PF2e’s ocean of choices.

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Same! I struggle to keep my attention reading through even just the player supplement. I want to make these videos because I wish I had access to something like them!

Yeah, this makes me hesitant to provide this as a guide to my players. When I played with a different group our Magus was a great front liner. I also don't see the 10 minute cooldown for Investigator being a huge issue with how often we took breaks to Refocus and Treat Wounds. A little worried this might just discourage the player who is really excited about Inventor.

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Yeah my first thought was "but an armorer inventor can just... Use a different weapon"

Is this AP mostly combat focused with little social interaction, since it is a dungeon crawl?

@@paralysekid very combat focused. Some opportunities to use non-combat skills like thievery or the charisma skills. besides brief downtime in town to retrain, buy items, etc you spend almost all your time in the dungeon. Still overall really fun!

@@maxgoldstein8778 Okay thank you! I'll have to see if that is to my players' liking or not.

I believe its immunities, weaknesses, and then resistence per pf2e application rules. So something resistent to bludgeoning still had the weakness 5 to cold iron still will apply the weakness amount prior to resisting the bludgeoning weapon used.

Oh yeah, the magus isn't a *bad* choice whatsoever. I'll argue that no class is a bad choice at all. I just had to pick something to be the bottom class and I picked magus mainly for the idea that you'll almost never be 100% effective in most fights.

@@Nonat1s That's very fair. The spell limit is really felt hard too. Having to go out for a full rest hits the magus hard

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Agreed but in the way that the magus will still have something to do and not be completely shut down. I do think though they will still feel real sad when 1/2 their kit doesnt work. Just not as sad as that wizard perhaps that isnt speced into weapons but forced to buff or used them due to the enemies.

This is a fascinating point that I see so many different sides of! In my experience, we don't usually wait 10 minutes between encounters, but it sounds like a ton of groups do! I might have to do a poll to get some extra info on this because I'm so interested!

@@Nonat1s Do you also not use medicine for healing? Because that also takes 10 minutes. If your spells only you can pretty much last 2 encounters before your done, that is a short adventuring day.

@@Nonat1s Yeah you should, that would be interesting. Could be an idea for a video, how often you should 10 minute and 8 hour rest

@@Nonat1s I agree finding more data on this would be good. Typically I let my party rest 10 minutes between encounters, usually much, much longer. I mean, most classes, ancestries, etc. have mechanics built in to allow it. I think it’s pretty clear PF2e is a game that (often) encourages it. As mentioned, the Medicine skill alone seems to infer that ten minute waits should be a thing. All that said, I mix things up in my campaigns. There are plenty of situations where it makes sense to not permit ten minutes in between fights. But most of the time I just think it’s silly to send group after group of creatures to attack a party. That just feels so B-horror movie style to me. Dungeon Crawls are definitely unique, as it can make total sense not to allow too much time to pass. For every locked/closed off room or passage way that might require ten minutes or more to open (thus resting before facing the room’s inhabitants) it makes plenty of sense for multiple open rooms with some creatures inhabiting different areas, or simply wandering around. Cursed items, haunts, and other dangers also help fill in the gaps, and make exploration a chore itself. Still, going back to the OP’s post regarding the Investigator…eh. One of my favorite classes in 2e, but also the class most beholden to the style and preferences of the DM. Entire benefits of the Investigator can get thrown out the window if the DM isn’t up to embracing the character, concept, and play style. In my campaigns, Investigators typically thrive, both in general situations and even when we do dungeon crawls. I’m a believer in “knowledge is power”, and versatility with knowledge in my campaigns is incredible powerful. But other DMs just don’t play that way. I’ve only run Abomination Vaults once, and there was no Investigator in the group. But I can see how it would be somewhat useless or nearly overpowered, depending on the DM’s style and preferences. So the same elements that can make it so fun to play or have in a party if you’re the DM is exactly the same thing that can make the experience terrible elsewhere. Frankly, a breakdown of this would be another great video idea. A look into the Investigator, and why it’s beloved or hated by so many. Different approaches to the class as a player and DM, etc. Stylistic (regarding play styles) class breakdowns would make for a pretty good series, in my opinion. But the Investigator can be such a binary option for many groups that it probably deserves the first video. Additionally, I’m always curious how other groups and DMs treat knowledge in their games. It was only somewhat recently that I discovered that gathering information with the Diplomacy or similar skill was often compressed into campaign-specific streams by many DMs. In other words, a Bard that spends a night in the tavern drinking, entertaining, and talking with everyone might come back with helpful knowledge (based on rolls) for the DM’s intended campaign or “nothing helpful” at all. Whereas in my campaigns, the gathering of information in towns or cities can lead to all sorts of random side quests that have nothing to do with the main objective of the campaign but still can provide money, services, items, or whatever else for a group embracing and accomplishing certain tasks. Similar to the town notice boards in video games like the Witcher and Dragon Age. My mind was blown, as I was brought up learning and utilizing information in my way, and it never occurred to me some DMs might streamline what characters learn to keep the party on track and constantly moving forward. Anyways, my apologies for wandering a bit from topic to topic. I’m pretty loopy right now.

@@Nonat1s As far as I've seen it's pretty standard to take a breather after any combat, and AFAIK the system is designed that way. You'd make things A Lot harder unnecessarily for a party if you didn't allow it as a GM.

My table is on book 2 of SoT now, and not sure I'd have most/least useful classes for it. Main thing I think is gonna be party balance. My table had no issue here, but it could be very tempting given the setting for everyone to avoid martial classes. However, there WILL be physical fights, which will be a challenge without a meat shield or 2. Having your face know undercommon would be handy in book 1 as well. You'd think it'd be fae, but no.

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It kind of does exist actually. A channel called Recall Knowledge has a video series dedicated to showcasing adventure path content on foundry vtt and gives a lot of advice for gm's on running it.

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@@Nonat1s It's no nostalgic! I remember playing this game pseudo 2 player with my brother on gameboy player (gamecube). Musical commentary aside thanks, I haven't had the chance to do PF2 yet but this sounds like a fun adventure path