Seneca: Of Anger Book 2 - (Audiobook & Summary)

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Vox Stoica

Vox Stoica

5 жыл бұрын

De Ira (On Anger) is a Latin work by Seneca (4 BC-65 AD). The work defines and explains anger within the context of Stoic philosophy, and offers therapeutic advice on how to prevent and control anger.
(Note to KZfaq: This is my own recording, it is not taken from anywhere else. I retain the copyright)
Translated by Aubrey Stewart
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Notes:
1: Anger is not above the control of reason
2: Some motions like shivering are beyond our control. But anger can be put to flight by wise maxims; for it is a voluntary defect of the mind.
3: Passions begin with impulses. We cannot avoid the impulse, but we can prevent them becoming fully fledged passions. It is a conscious choice to allow it to develop or not.
4: Impulses and emotions differ. Emotions are brought into existence by deliberate mental acts.
5: Anger if too readily indulged it can eventually develop into a permanent character trait of cruelty.
6: Joy at good actions is glorious, anger at bad actions is base. The Wise man will become irascible if always angered by bad deeds.
7: If you’re angry at evil deeds your mood will depend upon others, you will also never cease to be angry since there’s so much evil in the world
8: The mob is fraught with vices
9: If you want to be as angry as men’s crimes require, you will not be angry but go mad with rage.
10: People committing sin is to be expected, it’s foolish to be angry at things you expect. Be not an enemy to but an improver of sinners.
11: Anger is not to be praised for inducing fear. Fear affects feeble minds and there is nothing great in it.
12: It is possible to overcome anger. The mind can carry out whatever orders it gives itself.
13: There’s no need for us to defend anger. Get rid of it. The wise man does his work without the help of any evil passion, especially one which needs to be watched so closely.
14: It is acceptable to feign anger, but not to be angry. Great athletes avoid anger because it clouds judgment.
15: Cultures prone to anger are less successful.
16: We revere wild animals, but they are not to be imitated. Humans possess reason which is superior, and if you imitate anything, imitate God.
17: Don’t be angry but don’t be feeble either. Do be prepared to use force when necessary but not out of anger.
18: Two categories of remedies for anger: Preventing it from arising and avoiding doing wrong when it does arise.
19: Different people have different natural dispositions to anger
20: Those who are predisposed to anger should deliberately avoid arousing it. Those of calmer dispositions should take care to avoid opposite vices such as cowardice, despair and suspiciousness. It’s possible for anger to become a learned habit of the mind.
21: Overindulging or flattering children can lead them to develop angry characters. Raise them in a down to earth manner. It’s a fine balance, subdue their anger, but avoid crushing their spirit. They should focus on conquering their antagonists but not on hurting them. They must earn things by merit and never by begging.
22: To resist anger, focus on its first cause: the belief that we are injured. Allow time to elapse before forming your opinion.
23: Choosing not to feel injured and forgiving wrongs often leads to better outcomes for all.
24: Avoid suspicion and mistrust. Focus on being straightforward and having kindly interpretations of other people’s actions.
25: Luxury leads to irritation at petty things. Toughen up, choose to live a less luxurious life.
26: Inanimate objects, animals and children are ignorant of any wrong they do us. As are foolish men who have little more sense than children. It’s daft to feel anger towards any of them.
27: The universe does not revolve around you; natural events are nothing to be angry at.
Punishments received from good men are usually intended for our benefit not harm.
28: No one is faultless. When others sin, remind yourself of the sins you yourself have committed.
29: “The greatest remedy for anger is delay”
30: You can always find a reason to forgive someone.
31: Anger arises from a sense of injury or of unjust treatment
32: It is usually more honorable, and better for all, to ignore transgressions than to avenge them.
33: If you do seek revenge, do so only as a remedy, not out of anger.
34: Forgiveness yields better results than aggression. Violent acts escalate over time.
35: Anger damages itself in its lust for revenge
36: Anger can lead men to ruin and to destroy their own lives. “men have thrust swords through the bodies of those whom they loved, and have slain those in whose arms they have lain”
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@VoxStoica
@VoxStoica 5 жыл бұрын
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@nfragala
@nfragala 2 күн бұрын
This should be mandatory education in school. Thank you, Vox!
@Caesar_1415
@Caesar_1415 3 жыл бұрын
This is excellent work thank you!!
@knowthyself3422
@knowthyself3422 5 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for this patiently. Thank you
@nonnywinner5039
@nonnywinner5039 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for uploading and sharing. Used to think that anger shows strength, until I started noticing that calmness is power.
@thedonmeister8027
@thedonmeister8027 2 жыл бұрын
Found these videos recently and I am so grateful
@JMotiveMU
@JMotiveMU 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this brother!
@rckli
@rckli Жыл бұрын
I feel the first book gave an vague summary of what anger was and how to fix it, whereas this one gives examples and explanations for the information on the first book, while adding a little more Idk, I feel this book had direct examples, rather than guidance…. It’s as if he saw anger as a broken bone and understood you must pull it into place before trying to heal it - align your broken emotions first before trying to heal. Like a cold splash of water to awaken someone who’s life is in peril What a wonderful book and an excellent reading - thank you, mr stoica :)
@caorusso4926
@caorusso4926 3 жыл бұрын
A valiable lesson on life and how to avoid anger
@gormaz13
@gormaz13 5 жыл бұрын
thank you for your work INTPWorld.
@shabazz456
@shabazz456 2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@mmka5434
@mmka5434 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this fantastic narration and sharing the marvelous wisdom of Seneca. It would be a grate idea if you could also narrate "The Republic" by Plato.
@Zaysayer
@Zaysayer 5 жыл бұрын
I thought my phone was messing up at 45:00 😂. Good content, mate
@VoxStoica
@VoxStoica 5 жыл бұрын
No, just me messing up ;)
@fraidoonw
@fraidoonw 4 жыл бұрын
thanks again!
@SERGE_Tech
@SERGE_Tech 4 жыл бұрын
42:10 vox do you find sections like this actually relevant. from time to time ill run into these ancient attempts at scientific analysis and we now know it really doesnt work that way but how do we reconcile sections in these writing that are completely wrong? is it that it doesn't mater that its wrong? or have you found a different way to interpret that section?
@VoxStoica
@VoxStoica 4 жыл бұрын
Well it’s always good to acknowledge that the Stoics weren’t right about everything, doing so keeps us grounded, less ideological and more critical. Seneca’s scientific claims were frequently wrong, but it’s also frequently irrelevant to his argument provided his observation is sound. There’s usually an [observation] followed by a [spurious explanation] eg 42:10: [People have different predispositions to anger and cowardice] because [they contain different amounts of hot and cold]. Today we might say: [People have different predispositions to anger and cowardice] because of [innate personality traits and genetics]. The effect is the same. I feel it’s the observation that people differ in their proclivities to various vices and must take more or less care accordingly which is important.
@SERGE_Tech
@SERGE_Tech 4 жыл бұрын
@@VoxStoica The ancients could have known everything and for times like this I let it slide but especially because like you mentioned the points are still valid. The little explanations you give go a long way. Thank you. Have you found that the logic is wrong in anyway in any of these texts that you upload? The scientific stuff I can let slide but have you found that there is non scientific teachings that are flat out wrong, ethically and morally?
@pantsenfuego9986
@pantsenfuego9986 4 жыл бұрын
This material is not scientific analysis. Heat is not only an apt metaphor for anger.. (hot blooded, hot tempered) it’s an easily observed phenomena within the body.
@bdeckerva
@bdeckerva 3 жыл бұрын
Also do not overlook the possibility they are describing something energetic, forgotten or ignored by current science. As with Chinese medicine.. Things our science says is wrong.. But their results are more natural and far better for things our science has no answer for. Always leave a healthy amount of unknowing to your conclusions less they become rigid.
@jasonp.6470
@jasonp.6470 3 жыл бұрын
Well it’s better then seeing a shrink who charges you $250/hr to say, “so what do you think you could have done differently.” You will be far better off in life if you only studied the stoics and buddhists and actually practice the teachings on a daily basis.
@cockyhussain
@cockyhussain 26 күн бұрын
47:51
@brendon3605
@brendon3605 2 жыл бұрын
But you have to get mad to win a fight and win a fight to get the girl
@bronsomccor2642
@bronsomccor2642 Жыл бұрын
Basically use your anger as discipline and self control don't succumb to your anger instead suppress it and embrace virtue anger will give you a weak mind because you not are in control of your emotions men who are in touch with their emotions are feminine and weak it takes alot for a man to forgive his enemy instead of being angry with the enemy give him virtue and love if you wanna defeat the enemy
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