Senna Imola Crash Analysis - Steering investigation

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Haris Topal

Haris Topal

3 ай бұрын

In previous video we showed that Senna's steering column was damaged as Aqua Mineralli, lap 6. In this video we will investigate the last 60 seconds until the fatal accident to see whether the steering failure was out of a sudden or it was an accident waiting to happen. #senna #imola #tamburello

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@DavidBranco75
@DavidBranco75 Ай бұрын
The question in my mind is: How can a driver like Senna, that had this huge sensibility for everything that happens inside the car, not notice something so serious and dangerous? This is very strange.
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 Ай бұрын
Strange indeed
@Patrik.Pereira
@Patrik.Pereira Ай бұрын
He went to Williams to WIN and had only retirements the previous races... Nothing wAs gonna stop him that day.... Untill it did......
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 Ай бұрын
@@Patrik.Pereira unfortunately yes...
@EXTRO72
@EXTRO72 Ай бұрын
He had to win at all costs and was not going to park the car
@DavidBranco75
@DavidBranco75 Ай бұрын
@@EXTRO72 Even so. He was so concern about safety... And he must have felt that. Or was he so desperate to risk it all like he did? It doesn't add up.
@beatriz2212
@beatriz2212 15 күн бұрын
PERFEITA A ANÁLISE ! É inaceitável que pessoas tenham sido inocentadas nisso . Inaceitável a Williams devolver as duas caixas pretas destruídas , inaceitável terem cortado de propósito a fita que filmou o impacto através da câmera do carro , inaceitável não liberarem a filmagem da sétima volta quando ocorreu o impacto, . Isso tudo para proteger os interesses da F1 , virou uma máfia !! MUITO OBRIGADA por sua análise !!
@fIamengorocks1978
@fIamengorocks1978 8 күн бұрын
Exatamente. Por isso muita gente, inclusive fora do Brasil, perderam o 'encanto' pela F1 depois desse episódio absurdo. Eu demorei a ver corridas, mas via poucas vezes mais por causa de torcer pro Rubinho Barrichello, Felipe Massa. A F1 dos bons tempos se foi. Os maIucos tivessem mais noção teriam cancelado o Imola GP 1994, após a morte de Ratzenberger, e transferido a data para uns dias depois, após adotar medidas preventivas de segurança. Tenho certeza que teriam feito isso se soubessem a catástrofe de acidentes que ocorreram no domingo 1º/maio.
@julianhoskins5158
@julianhoskins5158 Ай бұрын
I used to work with a friend of the Williams race team fabricator who modified the steering column, it was known to be a badly engineered and executed repair that failed. After the accident the steering wheel and part of the column can be seen next to the car. Anyone who is involved in motorsport on an engineering level knows that that steering column would not have broken because of the accident, it broke just before the accident and Senna lost the ability to make a steering input! R. I. P. Ayton
@Blackadder512
@Blackadder512 Ай бұрын
But how can a steering column be half-broken like the video suggests. Seems difficult to accept anything else then that a steering column is either broken or not broken. Progressively losing the ability to give steering input because of a progressively worsening column failure? Difficult to imagine.
@julianhoskins5158
@julianhoskins5158 Ай бұрын
@@Blackadder512 easy, it fractured through a large enough percentage of it's circumference so it lost a lot of it's lateral rigidity which enables it to bend at the fracture point which caused the steering wheel to drop down and move around during the previous lap and then finally lost too much of its tortional rigidity to provide the nessessary torque to the pinion in the steering rack that Senna was demanding before it finally fractured completely when entering the high speed and high steering loaded corner that was Tamburello at that time.
@razank8996
@razank8996 Ай бұрын
@@julianhoskins5158maybe it helps to understand, when using shorter sentences instead if that one sentence
@julianhoskins5158
@julianhoskins5158 Ай бұрын
@@razank8996 LOL. I wrote it like that deliberately, I think you get the gist of it.
@razank8996
@razank8996 Ай бұрын
@@julianhoskins5158 yeah, i was just wondering, if the whole connent was hust 1 sentence. But, yeah it works
@elieserdecarvalhocarvalho2523
@elieserdecarvalhocarvalho2523 2 ай бұрын
Sem dúvida alguma foi a quebra da barra de direção,a improvisação deu lugar a um serviço que teria que ser feito na fábrica da equipe,ou seja,trocar toda a direção do carro,ou invés disso fizeram uma improvisação com uma imenda mal feita e mal SOLDADA,que não resistiu a força da pressão sobre essa imenda,tanto que o carro segue em linha reta por quase 90( noventa ) metros ,no início da curva e ao final da reta dos boxes o carro estava a 320 kms por hora ao entrar na curva TAMBOLLERO e ficar SEM DIREÇÃO,ou seja,quebrou a barra ,SENNA ainda consegue reduzir a velocidade do carro para 207(duzentos e sete) kms por hora, porém,ao bater no muro a essa velocidade a roda dianteira direita que foi a primeira a bater no muro de concreto,soltou-se e veio de encontro ao cokpit, como a cabeça do AYRTON estava jogada para frente por causa da freiada brusca,a roda empurra a cabeça do AYRTON com muita,muita força contra o encosto do cokpit,causando - lhe uma LESÃO NA BASE DO CÉREBRO,além do que o braço da suspensão da roda passou feito uma FLEXA pelo capacete do AYRTON,perfurando o mesmo e tbm a sua TÊMPORA DIREITA,este corte no capacete foi de aproximadamente 6( seis) centrimentros,causando perda de MASSA CEREBRAL e muito, muito SANGUE,o que acarretou em MORTE CEREBRAL,portanto quando a equipe médica chegou ao local do acidente, após 1( um) minuto e 40( quarenta) pós batida,o AYRTON já estava MORTO,apenas continuava com o coração ainda batendo,a equipe médica apenas fez manobras médicas para manter o coração do AYRTON ainda batendo para que não fosse aclamado que ele morreu na pista,portanto a causa - morte foi a quebra da SOLDA MAL FEITA que não aguentou a pressão da PISTA.🤦
@Fabtp76
@Fabtp76 Ай бұрын
Por que A FIA ORDENOU QUE TODAS AS TECNOLOGIAS DO ANO ANTERIOR FOSSEM RETIRADAS PARA DEIXAR O CAMPEONATO O MAIS DIFÍCIL POSSÍVEL PARA O SENNA JÁ QUE AQUELES FDPS SEMPRE QUISERAM FAVORECER O FRANCÊS E PREJUDICAR SENNA. O MECÂNICO FEZ AQUILO CORRENDO PRESSIONADO E ESTAVAM DESESPERADAMENTE TENTANDO AJUSTAR UM CARRO QUE FOI DESTRUÍDO POR QUE A FIA NÃO AGUENTAVA VER SENNA CAMPEÃO DE NOVO E QUERIA FODER E DIFICULTAR DE TODA FORMA POSSÍVEL A VIDA DO SENNA. A WILLIAMS É O MECÂNICO PODEM TER COMETIDO SEUS ERROS MAS A FIA É ASSASSINA!!!!
@omundodegeekman4454
@omundodegeekman4454 20 күн бұрын
sem dúvida a coluna de direção quebrou... no momento do impacto com o muro
@paulmartin9070
@paulmartin9070 13 күн бұрын
Foi a COLUNA, e não a barra
@TheJokerit19
@TheJokerit19 Ай бұрын
I'm here today for the 30th anniversary. I'd never realized the steering column damage at Acque Minerali, though.
@gmay8493
@gmay8493 Ай бұрын
It’s an interesting analysis you have produced here. I’ve watched a few different videos on here of the moments leading up to the accident, up to the on-board footage which cuts out right before the car impacts the wall. For a long time I disagreed with the broken column theory and put it down to the car’s handling being uncontrollable due to the tires not being up to temperature. But looking at it further, I think that both may be true and one directly contributed to the other. When you compare all of the footage from the qualifying, warm up and the race, it’s clear something significant has changed on lap 6 (first racing lap footage) going into lap 7 compared to the previous footage from qualifying and the morning warm up…The car is bouncing around a lot more, to the point where the camera is lining out and even cutting out completely multiple times. The ride looks awful and like Ayrton is really trying to hold on to it. My best guess is that this change in ride is down to the tire pressures and temps still being very low due to the time spent behind the terribly underpowered Opel Vectra safety car after the start line accident. Senna at one point even pulls up alongside it, waving his fist and yells with his visor up at Charlie Whiting (in the passenger seat) to go faster, who shouts back that they can’t… Even the safety car driver was starting to panic that the totally unsuitable safety car was being driven too hard just to keep the F1 cars at a pace where they could anywhere near maintain tire pressure and they’d go off the circuit…In fact, when the safety car eventually made it back to the pits at the restart, the brake pedal was nearly at the floor, all the dash warning lights were on and it wouldn’t restart again. They literally drove the Vectra safety car so hard to keep up that they killed it. Then add in the factor that both of the Williams were probably running a fairly heavy fuel load (the cars of Senna and Hill can be seen to be the only ones of about 10 seen in the camera shot actually sparking and bottoming out earlier in the lap). All of the added vibration created by these factors would certainly have put a lot more stress on the modified steering column and it wouldn’t surprise me at all if this had started to fail halfway through lap 6. The most interesting footage is the last 5 seconds or so before the accident going into Tamburello. As Senna enters the corner, you see the car really flex over a series of bumps on the inside of the corner. On the third or fourth bump, there’s a strong vibration which shakes the camera heavily and the car bottoms out and twitches to the right (you can see this from Schumacher’s in-car footage behind if you look carefully). I believe at this point the column is literally hanging by a thread, so to speak…Senna then immediately attempts to correct and I believe the load from this probably caused it to snap completely. You can see Senna’s helmet in the left mirror. At this moment you see his head react to something and he looks down, or possibly being forced down by the sudden change of G-force as the column breaks…you see his full visor in the mirror for a moment (as opposed to the base of the helmet as previously) and you no longer see any arm or hand movements on the wheel as the car goes straight on. I don’t think he knew the column was damaged a lap earlier. I think the car was handling so unexpectedly poorly at that point due to the tires not being up to temp that he wouldn’t have known what the hell was even going on until perhaps 1 - 2 seconds before the impact, at most.
@Supernova1.980
@Supernova1.980 Ай бұрын
don´t u think Senna was incautious? he surely knew the steering collumn was improvised on his own demands, and was the car was too tricky to be ridden, he could have been more cautious and stop. Words from a Brazilian here.
@gmay8493
@gmay8493 Ай бұрын
@@Supernova1.980 I don’t think I’d say he was incautious or reckless. No more so than many other drivers would have been at the time, at least. I think you have to look at these things in context…It’s 1994 and Ayrton has had his worst ever start to a season (largely through reliability issues and no fault of his own). He’s a highly driven and aggressive, but talented driver who is willing to give anything to win again. He has moved from McLaren into a Williams that isn’t what he expected it to be, his main contender is Schumacher driving a Benetton (which Ayrton by this point believed - probably correctly - was using banned driver aids that the Williams didn’t have). If you look at the in car footage, he is desperately trying to hold onto that Williams ahead of 2nd place Schumacher, who probably isn’t working half as hard to keep the Benetton on the road due to the car being so much better than the Williams as this point in the season and his driver aids that Senna didn’t have. You can see from the footage that Senna’s Williams is bouncing around all over the place, unlike in practice or qualifying. Did Ayrton push it too hard? Possibly. But that’s the reason he won three world championships. The fact that he drove that way and had that kind of motivation to win at all costs is what separates a truly fantastic driver from simply a good driver like his teammate Damon Hill at the time. You also have to remember that a modification to a steering column in that way was something that teams did back then. A lot has changed in the last 30 years since. Ayrton probably had no reason to suspect that a fairly routine bit of work (at the time) would have been done poorly and failed on him. He also was a victim of bad luck in my opinion - had the start line crash not happened his tires would probably have been up to temperature much quicker and the car would have handled way better and bounced around far less, meaning the welded column may have lasted longer or not even failed at all. You know how air crash investigators often say a plane crash never usually happens for any one reason? It’s usually multiple reasons that come together. If any one of those things didn’t happen, the crash probably wouldn’t have happened. Same goes for Aryton imo… Sorry for the long reply. Felt like I needed to explain my answer fully as it’s complex.
@Supernova1.980
@Supernova1.980 Ай бұрын
@@gmay8493 thank u a lot for the explanation. I feel proud a non-Brazilian recognise Senna´s qualities, he´s still our hero. Are u American?
@gmay8493
@gmay8493 Ай бұрын
@@Supernova1.980 No problem. I mean, it’s just my opinion as someone who has watched the sport since those days and learned a lot about it, but I’m sure other people will think differently to me. Ayrton’s battles with Nigel Mansell back in the late 1980’s/early 90’s were the reason I started watching F1, so Senna always has a special place to me. I can respect drivers like Schumacher and Prost as being greats also, but Senna had a natural ability to race wheel-to-wheel and race on the edge with all of his heart and soul that they never had in my opinion. It’s great that he is still the hero of Brazil and keep his memory alive there. He was a unique talent. I’m originally from the UK, but I actually do live in America now. Best wishes to you 😊
@Supernova1.980
@Supernova1.980 Ай бұрын
@@gmay8493 that´s great ! thank u, have a wonderful day
@quesomquefaz
@quesomquefaz Ай бұрын
Video was intentionally cut so there's no footage showing that the wheel was loose in his hands.
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 Ай бұрын
Obviously
@selections199
@selections199 24 күн бұрын
​@@haristopal8664If only FIA was honest about Roland Ratzenberger dying on track they could have stopped the race day for investigation, clearly on the Italian law. Money at its best, this is what happens.
@gertsy2000
@gertsy2000 15 күн бұрын
No. Because it never was loose in his hands. It snapped on impact with the wall.
@selections199
@selections199 8 күн бұрын
@@gertsy2000 Then he would have the chance to turn on Tamburello if that was the case.
@Tg18460
@Tg18460 5 күн бұрын
@@gertsy2000no, snapped when he went over the bump and the car went straight. All we need is the yellow button and we’ve seen the wheel lost all force and had no response in his hands, because it was snapped. The path of the two yellow buttons confirm this, this channel has done a good video on the yellow button
@r1oot
@r1oot 3 ай бұрын
There was an onboard I found from a random F1 documentary that was different from all the popular ones. During last second, I heard the engine sound changed pitch, like he did a instant throttle lift exactly the same moment that his head jerked forward. That half of second sound was cut in a lot of the popular onboards. It's crazy how many new things is discovered.
@GabrieleGallagher27
@GabrieleGallagher27 3 ай бұрын
I watched it as well, many years ago. The throttle lift was clear.
@ph4nt0m22
@ph4nt0m22 3 ай бұрын
Can you please check if you can find the name of the documentary?
@ph4nt0m22
@ph4nt0m22 3 ай бұрын
@@GabrieleGallagher27 Can you please check if you can find the name of the documentary?
@JX-ic6me
@JX-ic6me 2 ай бұрын
@@ph4nt0m22 You can find that exact onboard video on youtube actually, the video's called "Ayrton Senna's Last Lap Imola 1994 KZfaq"
@friedrich_wilhelm_93
@friedrich_wilhelm_93 2 ай бұрын
please send us that documentary
@audiomixexpert3175
@audiomixexpert3175 3 ай бұрын
You raised a very important question in the video. Did Senna radio the team to let them know he was having problems with the steering? Well I'm curious did the Williams FW16 have a specific button on the steering wheel for the radio? If so maybe you could find footage of him pressing it during his last couple of laps? That might indicate he was trying to let them know something was wrong. Just a theory I had :-)
@pietrogiorgi1461
@pietrogiorgi1461 3 ай бұрын
If I remember well, the yellow button on steering wheel is the radio button...
@audiomixexpert3175
@audiomixexpert3175 3 ай бұрын
@@pietrogiorgi1461 Did some research and found a video of David Coulthard giving a detailed walkthrough of the FW16 cockpit. The yellow button on the left side of the steering wheel is an auto-shift for the gearbox. There is a separate green toggle switch for the radio approximately 4 inches below that yellow button. It would be really interesting to see if there is footage of Ayrton using it. Might be a bit difficult to pinpoint but might be worth a look I guess. This is the video if anyone is interested: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aJ6qnLiarbzHYIk.htmlsi=GmTsIzDTEovNyINl
@viliandiegofigueiredo1000
@viliandiegofigueiredo1000 Ай бұрын
It would be interesting to see the onboard camera in training in the previous days to see how the steering was going.
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 Ай бұрын
I do have another video showing the onboard during qualifying
@carloliberale
@carloliberale 26 күн бұрын
Indeed that would be very interesting to see as a reference, to know what were the natural and intrinsic fluctuations of the steering. Looking forward to see that video
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 26 күн бұрын
@@carloliberale sure. Check this one kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nMWhZrxzlaqxonk.html
@davclars7450
@davclars7450 Ай бұрын
Ayrton Senna was a perfectionnist, i can’t believe he did not feel anything. Most of all, he had a bad feeling this week end after the two accidents (tragic). Damned why didn’t he go back to the paddock!?? 😢 Probably the destiny… four hours sooner he had these words for Alain Prost « I miss you Alain😢 »
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 Ай бұрын
There's no way he didn't feel something. The question is why didn't he retire the car.
@davclars7450
@davclars7450 Ай бұрын
@@haristopal8664 by retire the car, what do you mean or rather when? You mean Several seconds sooner when he probably felt something wrong with the steering wheel!?
@peacfulearth
@peacfulearth Ай бұрын
​@@haristopal8664 Because the team might have said: "Come in the round after next, we'll take a look." 🤔
@flintey360
@flintey360 Ай бұрын
​@@peacfulearthYou need to understand Senna's mentality coming into the weekend he was 20 points down on Schumacher, in his mind he thought he had nothing to lose.
@sapolio6209
@sapolio6209 Ай бұрын
I agree that he would notice that right away. But he was very competitive, so he kept on pushing. Remember that he won a race with only one gear once. And in other race he almost had no brakes. He knew he could go a bit too far in taking risks while racing.
@regimantas23
@regimantas23 Ай бұрын
What does left for Hill to say… when you’re lapped after 2/3 by you teammate (who is new in the team) in brasil, then constantly gets more than half a second in every qualifying. The only way to justify yourself in this tragic situation is to say that Senna was overagressive, risked too much and bla bla. “I also could drive this fast but i was more carefull”. Totall bullshit. All drivers said that in tamburello you can go out only because of mechanic failure. Steering failed 100 per cent, it was confirmed by Italian prosecutors and trial, there was fatigue on the metal. Senna hit on brakes so hard, that indicates that he realized he had no steering. Because drivers before hiting brakes so hard, try to realize the problem - front/rear suspencion and so on. When you hit it so hard it means no steering. It’s obvious, there’s nothing to discuss more. Great video!
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 Ай бұрын
The only way Senna would go immediately on the brakes is if he already knew something was wrong and had in mind the possibility of retiring the car.
@omarhugo
@omarhugo Ай бұрын
That was too late for him!
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 Ай бұрын
@@omarhugoYes
@djh29971
@djh29971 Ай бұрын
The Italian courts are hardly credible, I remember that they took 3 Years to exonerate Patrese for something he didn't do! Nobody will know for sure what really happened, but the FW16 at that time for a very nervous car than Senna and Hill did not have the greatest amount of confidence in and was known for behaving in a manner that would vary lap to lap. Senna was taking the quicker, but bumpier line through tamburello whereas Hill was taking the smoother, but less direct line. Given the nervousness of the car, coupled with the low ride height and type pressures and forums with FOM staff who examined the steering column, the generally view is it is likely he lost a massive amount of downforce and above all, very very unlucky with the angle the car hit the wall. As the years have passed, there seems to be more and more people looking - some who never saw Senna race - to find a reason that he didn't make a mistake. I watched him from FF1600 and he made plenty of mistakes. Saying it was 'driver error' does sound harsh, but I would describe it that he was simply driving too fast for the conditions. Cars have a limit and Senna has frequently drove beyond them. If you consistently do that, then sooner or later you're going to have a big one and sadly for Senna it was his last.
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 Ай бұрын
@@djh29971 Correction! Steering column favour is the conclusion of 2 different teams of experts, one being the University of Bologna. The result was after careful analysis on the material of the steering column.
@stipesbs6661
@stipesbs6661 28 күн бұрын
Great work man. Always wondered why mainstream media has not debunked the bottoming theory yet. I mean every year we are celebrating Ayrton's life and legacy and no one asks simply question: "Why and how did this guy died at first place?" Long time ago i saw documentary. I think it was Brazilian movie. Prost and Ron Dennis both said that it must have been a mechanical error. Piquet and Berger also said it was a steering column. To ignore opinions of world champions and to believe Martin Brundle and Damon Hill (employee of Williams) is beyond incomprehensible for me.
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 28 күн бұрын
Cold-tyres and bottoming-out theory served a purpose 30 years ago, when there was a trial and people's careers were in danger. The case is closed since 2007. The final verdict was steering column failure. No one is going to lose anything today by admiting the truth, in fact the team is no longer owned by Williams family.
@alpaybaykal345
@alpaybaykal345 18 күн бұрын
Most probably, Senna believed he could deal with the steering imbalance by the help of his superior management over the car as he mostly demonstrated during tough times, but this was an incomparable one.
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 18 күн бұрын
That's very probable
@ruypetra
@ruypetra 15 күн бұрын
Yes, like Jim Clark and Jochen Rindt, who had problematic machines at the time they lost their lives, but they trusted in their superior ability to drive even with technical problems in the car... which unfortunately led them to their respective (and sad) final moments.
@matthiaskopp1901
@matthiaskopp1901 3 ай бұрын
Great work as usual....thank you very much Haris!
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment
@richard3542
@richard3542 21 күн бұрын
Fantastic work to whoever made this video. Very well dissected and a very logical analysis 👍 As it has and always will be, motor racing is dangerous. RIP Senna 🙏
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 21 күн бұрын
Thank you. There will be new uploads soon
@Mariajose-hy5rk
@Mariajose-hy5rk 24 күн бұрын
La telemetría indica que estuvo ejerciendo presión a la dirección hasta el final. Así q no estaba rota en carrera. Es normal q si la barra estaba soldada se rompiera por mismo impacto accidente. Algo se fastidió más si cabe en el coche y me inclino a pensar que está más relacionado con el embrague ya que en la telemetría tiene unos cambios bruscos y la fuerza del acelerador también cambia a mayor, lo mismo que primero baja y después sube (la frenada) Creo q el coche llegó a correr por encima de sus posibilidades y no respondió bien, y si lo hizo fue a destiempo, cuando ya no había remedio por estar muro delante. Una rotura de embrague perjudica también la dirección coche. Ayrton Senna baja un poco la cabeza antes de chocar, alguna décima de segundo después del último chispazo del coche por contacto suelo y después de que unas piezas negras salieran desde su coche y rodaran por el suelo (esto se vio desde coche Shumacher) Ayrton ❤
@chrisbryant8317
@chrisbryant8317 28 күн бұрын
At Watkins Glen (I think) Senna noticed a wall had moved by a few mm, but didn’t notice a steering problem at San Marino/Imola?
@bunky8077
@bunky8077 17 күн бұрын
Exactly!
@user-mh5hj8xu8r
@user-mh5hj8xu8r Ай бұрын
The steering wheel it's attached to a hub, Wich it's fixed inside the cockpit. After the accident we can see the steering wheel with the hub and the broken column. Probably the bolts that holds the hub, unscrewed with vibration or, there were missing a few of them
@nezziaktm9922
@nezziaktm9922 3 ай бұрын
Hello, it might already been said, but it was always weird for me, that his footage on qualifying inside the cockpit is cristal clear, and on raceday and especially the last seconds its so dark, that i believe it got blurred (dark greenish pixels) by Williams or whoever got it in their Hands before releasing it to public again. Also the rather hard "pink tape cuts" throughout the footage, especially on final bump before loosing signal is not THAT drastically seen in other cockpit footage from other grand Prix's in that year. It almost looks like to me that someone thought "lets build these in so that people get convinced that the camera failed in the last second completely and that's why the footage cuts off" Would be interested about your take on this one. Great video once again, you're the best! 😊 I hope that some day someone finally can do a proper simulation. With the tools we have nowadays, that would be easily possible.
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 3 ай бұрын
It is a fact that today you can find 1994 season on-board footage in 4K and they look like they were filmed in 2022, while at the same time in Senna's case we still have the 1997 version of the video.
@andreavelinodacosta1418
@andreavelinodacosta1418 3 ай бұрын
​@@haristopal8664The key to do something new is the use of I.A. ...
@YouTubegast123
@YouTubegast123 2 ай бұрын
Good point! But swap Williams for someone else. Not only do Williams not have access to official footage, but they still don't know what happened. They are the pawns in this game ;)
@nezziaktm9922
@nezziaktm9922 Ай бұрын
​@@KZfaqgast123it could also be FIA or formula 1 altogether. The fact that they've taken down videos about this theme due to "copyright reasons" is sus.
@wagnerpsique
@wagnerpsique 2 ай бұрын
Exatamente no ponto da curva onde o carro solta faísca na volta anterior, talvez pela pressão dos pneus, parece ser onde a barra de direção acaba de se romper. Senna n tiraria o pé por nada depois q entrou no carro aquele dia, como ele próprio definia o seu estilo é "ou vai, ou racha (win or wall)"... Funcionou por dez anos.
@Supernova1.980
@Supernova1.980 Ай бұрын
verdade, ele não ia aceitar ficar pra trás.
@captainzeppos
@captainzeppos Ай бұрын
What did that yellow button do anyway?
@alexandrearena7288
@alexandrearena7288 27 күн бұрын
Parabéns pelo trabalho. Fico muito orgulhoso quando enconto seres humanos comprometidos com a verdade. Obrigado.
@keithrichards4296
@keithrichards4296 29 күн бұрын
After driving the 93 season prevented by contract from overtaking Alain ( -but being as fast as the Frenchman most of the time- )... being lapped by Senna in Brazil didn't do Damon any good.
@Apsu94
@Apsu94 Ай бұрын
I think that on the exit of the last chicane he tries to move the steering wheel horizontaly to feel how much it moves.He looks down at the same time
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 Ай бұрын
It is possible, yes
@leonardocamara9063
@leonardocamara9063 3 ай бұрын
Excelente trabalho !!! A verdade não pode ser escondida. A demora de quase uma década em sair o veredito final após o caso ser reaberto serviu como uma cortina de fumaça ao fazer este caso cair no esquecimento na memória das pessoas. Muitos ainda acreditam na teoria do vento, que fez o carro entrar em Stall e ir totalmente reto ao muro. Os segundos finais nunca poderiam vir a público. Pois mostrariam o volante quase que totalmente desprendido osclinando ainda mais.
@nezziaktm9922
@nezziaktm9922 3 ай бұрын
Hello Haris. Last time i found on a forum, a few KZfaq footages, where the people who posted it in around 2006,claimed that the footage lasted untill the crash into the borders, without cutting off. However clicking it on it, reveals that the video got taken down by FIA and Formula One. Very strange, because formula one rarely takes down videos for "copyright reasons" I'll post the link when i find the forum again.
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 3 ай бұрын
My research started back in 2004. Those days there was no youtube available and you really had to spend time in searching videos of the crash. Unfortunately I never managed to find anything that contained the last seconds of the accident
@nezziaktm9922
@nezziaktm9922 3 ай бұрын
@@haristopal8664 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aceAaJOFx6rSh6s.html This onboard video, of Lap 6 got striked by Formula One Management, and I wonder why. Did it maybe shown the unblurred steering wheel?
@nezziaktm9922
@nezziaktm9922 3 ай бұрын
@@haristopal8664 do you have discord? My links getting removed by KZfaq
@peacfulearth
@peacfulearth Ай бұрын
@@haristopal8664 There are no conspiracies, but the fact that the video suddenly disappeared at exactly that moment - even though it was running very stably beforehand - is - to paraphrase Julius Caesar - "a bit too much of a coincidence for one day". Did Caesar say that? Never mind ^^
@peacfulearth
@peacfulearth Ай бұрын
​@@haristopal8664In other words, what could theoretically be seen in the last few seconds that have disappeared that the public should not see?
@StandardNerdBR
@StandardNerdBR Ай бұрын
What did the button in question do? Senna seems to press it a few times during these 60 seconds. Was it the radio? Senna was known to be quite talkative to his team during the race. Could it be he mentioned to the engineers that he was feeling something wrong with the car? Great analysis by the way, keep it up.
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 Ай бұрын
That's a good question. According to Williams this yellow button was used for automatic downshifts. What I found is that the same button existed in 1993 and 1992 and its purpose was to reduce the ride height of the back of the car, giving an extra 13km top speed on straights.
@311superfly
@311superfly Ай бұрын
Purely for visual reference. Did you watch video?
@311superfly
@311superfly Ай бұрын
Sorry missed point.
@edobiotec
@edobiotec 28 күн бұрын
​@@haristopal8664 without active suspensions it surely changed use
@NoneOfYourBusinesz
@NoneOfYourBusinesz 2 ай бұрын
They will never admit that they made a mistake.
@YouTubegast123
@YouTubegast123 2 ай бұрын
How could you if you haven't made a mistake? Instead, you look just as stupid as everyone else.
@obiemichaels9675
@obiemichaels9675 3 ай бұрын
His head movement is a big telling factor for me. Back before the HANS device his head still stayed upright in corners, but that last turn his head moves to the side as if trying to will the car around the corner. The steering was clearly disengaged from the wheels
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 3 ай бұрын
kind of... basically his head goes to side and forward due to heavy braking
@obiemichaels9675
@obiemichaels9675 3 ай бұрын
@@haristopal8664 heavy braking in a straight line doesn’t make your head tilt to the left. The average inexperienced driver tends to lean in a corner while experienced drivers will remain upright. He knows he is in trouble and the basic flight reflex has kicked in trying everything to turn that car.
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 3 ай бұрын
@@obiemichaels9675 heavy braking causes high deceleration which means his head leans forward. At the same time, as you explained, his head leans to the left due to reflexes
@obiemichaels9675
@obiemichaels9675 3 ай бұрын
@@haristopal8664 in no other corner of the track or in any other footage of him where he heavily brakes does his head move in this manner. There’s plenty of hard braking areas where his head barely moves.
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 3 ай бұрын
@@obiemichaels9675 that's a good observation
@heliocarneiromartinssousaj2832
@heliocarneiromartinssousaj2832 12 күн бұрын
Of Course Senna reported the mechanic team , that disturbing problem and complaint a lot and also the security failures of Imola since the first day,on Friday.
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 11 күн бұрын
But we are not certain that he contacted them through the radio
@kostaspanoss
@kostaspanoss 3 ай бұрын
Δε θα βγει η αλήθεια ποτέ στη δικαιoσύνη δυστυχώς. Ελπίζω αυτό το βίντεο να γίνει viral όπως το προηγούμενο που είχες ανεβασει το 22. Ντροπή τους που σβήσαν τα στοιχεία πριν το δικαστήριο και τη βγάλαν καθαρή...
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 3 ай бұрын
Να σου πω την αλήθεια τι αλλά στοιχεία θες; Έχεις ένα τιμόνι που για 60 δευτερόλεπτα κουνιέται σα σπασμένο. Τώρα η ιστορία έχει γράψει ότι εξαφανίστηκαν στοιχεία τα οποία μακάρι να τα είχαμε αν μητει άλλο για να έχουμε συμπληρωμένο το παζλ.
@kostaspanoss
@kostaspanoss 3 ай бұрын
@@haristopal8664 Το ίδιο λεμε. Είναι ολοφάνερο τι συνέβη, απλά για κάποιο λόγο ελάχιστοι δείχνουν με αποδείξεις τι συνέβη ακόμα και 30 χρόνια μετά το δυστύχημα όπως εσύ. Γενικά με ενοχλεί το ότι έσβησαν τα telemetry data από το μαύρο κουτί και ότι κατέστρεψαν το αμάξι πριν έρθει το FIA να το ελέγξει... Γενικά πολυ περίεργη κατάσταση...
@blaster3744
@blaster3744 20 күн бұрын
Thats not accurate at all, if u look at the shape of the car , its also moving as well. It seems that the footage has been stabilzed which creates some weird motion around certain points on the footage, so taking reference point on this kinda footgae is misleading.
@yarisch8830
@yarisch8830 Ай бұрын
The strange thing is that a professional like Senna didn't notice the anomaly. I drive a normal car and I'm not a professional, but if my car had a different steering response than usual, even if it was only half a degree, I would notice it, lift my foot and pull over to check. On an F1 car, with a setup that skims the asphalt, the anomaly would be perceived 100 times more.... Something doesn't add up.
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 Ай бұрын
True. It is strange.. What if he did notice something but wasn't 100% sure?
@FabianoOFaria
@FabianoOFaria Ай бұрын
He probably noticed changes in the car's behavior, but probably attributed this to the fact that the car was quite unstable and the tires were underinflated.
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 Ай бұрын
@@FabianoOFaria Perhaps he also knew that he was using for first time a longer-modified steering column and thought for a moment that increased shaking would be normal.
@SuperMarcioricardo
@SuperMarcioricardo 15 күн бұрын
When Senna noticed something different in the car it was a matter of a second and he didn't even have time to correct it so much so that he was 310 km away and managed to reduce it to 210 km but not enough to save his life pay attention he puts his head down 🗣️ the moment he loses control He already knew that the collision with the wall was so inevitable that after the death of the Austrian driver, he went there and asked for changes to the Tamburello curve, but this was not answered, resulting in the accident.
@luisflavioaquino
@luisflavioaquino 28 күн бұрын
Just for curiosity, could the movement of the camera impact this analysis?
@Richard-qu5vi
@Richard-qu5vi 22 күн бұрын
Yes and its a good question but you have the rest of the cars frame as reference. To me it looked solid but I don't know for sure.
@311superfly
@311superfly Ай бұрын
Hard to imagine a weld failing over 60 seconds of two handed grapling after tyre impact. Still here we are.
@jimgannon1917
@jimgannon1917 2 ай бұрын
did they, you ever take a look a hills steering that day. with the xxs
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 2 ай бұрын
Nope. I think there is no onboard from Hill, at least after the restart. But we do have Hill's onboard from qualifying and warmup.
@gulfcoaster210
@gulfcoaster210 Ай бұрын
Didn’t the steering shaft ride in a rubber bushing? This would explain all of the movement seen in the wheel. Also, why is the video here cut off just before he clearly counter steers into an apparent slide?
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 Ай бұрын
The steering wheel of this car was not designed to move. Unfortunately the last 1,5 seconds of Senna's onboard are missing. The video tape brought to the trial in 1997 had a gap of 1,5 seconds as well.
@gulfcoaster210
@gulfcoaster210 Ай бұрын
@@haristopal8664 my understanding has always been that the steering shaft rode in a rubber isolator bushing that allowed for about a centimeter of movement.
@gulfcoaster210
@gulfcoaster210 Ай бұрын
@@haristopal8664 also, similar movement can be seen in hills on board as well.
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 Ай бұрын
@@gulfcoaster210 Possible. The truth is Michele Alboreto testified that steering wheels could move few millimeters, when track was bumpy. In this video Senna's steering wheel moves centimeters
@philipspratt8406
@philipspratt8406 Ай бұрын
A fair point about his tyre pressure being lower on lap 6 but on lap seven he was travelling much faster. 30 years ago the world lost a legend, what also saddens me is little is mentioned about the friendship that he developed with Alain Prost who is a trustee of the Senna Foundation
@harrytarded7002
@harrytarded7002 3 ай бұрын
wait, senna set fastest lap with a broken steering column? god damn
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 3 ай бұрын
damaged but functioning, at least for a while
@harrytarded7002
@harrytarded7002 3 ай бұрын
@@haristopal8664 yes of course, but damaged nonetheless. What if Senna performed better because he noticed something was very wrong and was so fixated on it that he was racing almost unconsciously?
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 3 ай бұрын
@@harrytarded7002 the investigation isn't over yet
@leonardocamara9063
@leonardocamara9063 3 ай бұрын
​@@haristopal8664como assim não terminou ?
@YouTubegast123
@YouTubegast123 2 ай бұрын
I love this point ;)
@i_love_symba4485
@i_love_symba4485 2 ай бұрын
When the next video
@markwilliams1941
@markwilliams1941 2 ай бұрын
Great videos but didn't Williams say the camera was vibrating not the steering column .They said that this was a sign the ride height was too low and hitting the ground.
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 2 ай бұрын
Camera was vibrating for sure but in the end what we see is a steering wheel colapsing, not a camera.
@markwilliams1941
@markwilliams1941 2 ай бұрын
@@haristopal8664 i tend to agree with you it wasn't normal.
@nordkapp1214
@nordkapp1214 13 күн бұрын
Im not here to come up with strange theories. But he was feeling the pressure of MSC behind him. Like he knew that new guy is ready to be the best. What if senna had more negative thoughts. Any signs of depression? Could he just thought.. the car is broken, but cant give up, msc is behind, so he just wanted 200%... or he knew it and was depressed.. drove out in highspeed.. he was probably more touched by the ratzenberger accident.. I dont wanna hurt anyones feeling just was never a thing to think about a driver also could call it quit due to pressure they have/had Especially senna.. And even scarier... schumacher sees senna drive into the wall.. get on a wonderful career and ends up hitting a stone to end his "normal" life... he picked up the winning of senna but also the heartbreaking lifechanger.. R.I.P. Senna and keep fighting MSC
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 13 күн бұрын
There was no "Quit" for Senna and I am afraid there was no "Quit" for Williams team. It is possible that both the driver and the team were suspicious about the steering but weren't 100% sure
@a-sword417
@a-sword417 Ай бұрын
Stress on the car and fatigue setting into the Welds’… of course, my biggest issue as a NHRA driver is Senna clearly expressed concern and they didn’t listen!!!!
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 Ай бұрын
Yes. Steering column failed due to fatigue
@alessandroferrante8536
@alessandroferrante8536 20 күн бұрын
which is the name of the mechanic that made the welding?
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 20 күн бұрын
We don't know it
@andreavelinodacosta1418
@andreavelinodacosta1418 3 ай бұрын
You should show this video to Damon Hill ...
@martinnbafiba1
@martinnbafiba1 3 ай бұрын
Damon Hill said it was a drivers error. Do you know better than Damon?
@andreavelinodacosta1418
@andreavelinodacosta1418 2 ай бұрын
​@@martinnbafiba1Don ' t be stupid !!!! Making a mistake in a flat out corner is ridiculous ... You are showing that know nothing about F1 !!!! Specially from this period !!!! What a joke !!!!!!
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 2 ай бұрын
@@martinnbafiba1 Driver's error does not necessarily mean a mistake during Tamburello. Hill knows the truth
@davidfalconer9281
@davidfalconer9281 2 ай бұрын
Didn’t Damon say if it was steering column failure sennas hands would’ve veered to the left as the Colomn broke due to the force used to go through the corner.. which isn’t shown therefore the theory was the car bottomed out after the tyres pressures lowered during the safety car laps…
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 2 ай бұрын
@@davidfalconer9281 I saw Martin Brundle saying that, not Hill. Your argument is a false dichotomy. X doesn't appear to be true therefore Y is true. It doesn't work that way...
@leemugleston6422
@leemugleston6422 18 күн бұрын
Schumacher said Senna was bottoming badly and nearly lost it on the previous lap. I believe the car bottomed so badly that it lost ground effect and stepped out. Senna reacted with a reflex correction and as the rear wheels regained traction the car followed the direction of the front wheels which were still under correction. The car was then a high speed on the grass heading for the barrier. Senna was unable to steer or slow the car before impact. Berger, Piquet and Alesi suffered similar accidents but survived uninjured.
@Ben94
@Ben94 18 күн бұрын
Car would have bottomed out a lap earlier if what you say is true, more sparks can be seen on lap 6 than on lap 7. So what's your explanation on that?
@leemugleston6422
@leemugleston6422 18 күн бұрын
@@Ben94 As Schumacher said, Senna ALMOST lost it a lap earlier. Senna spun out at Brasil while chasing Schumacher. He was over driving an ill handling car. That was Senna - go for broke which is why so many, including me, loved watching him.
@Ben94
@Ben94 17 күн бұрын
@@leemugleston6422You do realize that the corner they were taking was flat out, full throttle bend? Many drivers have said you cannot go off there without a mechanical failure. Schumacher is not a reliable scource here, because in a corner such as that, no one and I mean no one loses the rear due to oversteer. It’s stupid to even just explain that because it should be common knowledge. Have you even looked at the footage?
@leemugleston6422
@leemugleston6422 17 күн бұрын
@@Ben94 obviously I've looked at the footage. Normally you wouldn't oversteer on such a corner unless an ill handling car bottomed and lifted over the bumps. Imagine a stone skipping across water. Schumacher was an eye witness who could interpret what he saw.
@Ben94
@Ben94 17 күн бұрын
@@leemugleston6422 ultimately it’s not about what another driver saw, it’s still unreliable. A lot of cars bottomed out in that corner. Regardless of car or driver and none of them went off. Even Senna’s car who hit the ground harder a lap before because of colder tyres, didn’t fly off the road. And another thing, his onboard never shows that his car caught oversteer. Once the car goes straight, Senna tries to turn the wheel to the left with might force, twice. This is evident because of his helmet coming into view from the right side
@Bryan2799
@Bryan2799 Ай бұрын
If you watch the whole video of the crash from the Senna movie you can see him correct to the right just as he leaves the track (using the same button as a reference). Exactly what the data released shows and also what you would expect from the car bottoming hard at that part of the track. What you don't see is the wheel turn hard to the left as you would expect from the total failure of the steering. Also, as shown here that wheel adjustment was also not good and probably was flexing enough to cause Senna issues, and likely that it broke as well during the crash, or even during the correction. Both things can be possible. However steering column failure doesn't totally match all the facts. End of the day, cars have mechanical issues ALL the time. The exact reason for leaving the track is almost irrelevant compared to what happened to Senna during the accident. The changes made post accident (to the cars and tracks) should have been the focus and not the silly criminal trial that resulted.
@gmay8493
@gmay8493 Ай бұрын
I think the criminal trial revolved around the wrong thing imo…I mean, you can’t really hold engineers and mechanics responsible for something like that, especially when it was Ayrton who requested the adjustment himself and the fact that the column may never even have failed in the first place if numerous other factors hadn’t happened (assuming that it even failed prior to the accident in the first place). Now, if they’d brought a trial against whoever knowingly told the safety car driver to use a car they’d raised concerns about previously regarding it’s speed and suitability in keeping the F1 tires up to temp, then that might actually be something…in fact, the driver requested the Porsche 911 from the Supercup race organizers who allowed him to use it, but while he was transferring the equipment from the Opel to the Porsche, he was told by either someone at the FIA or local race organizers (it’s never clearly stated by him) that he had to use the Opel for sponsorship reasons and to put everything back in there. That decision contributed to Senna’s accident as much as anything else in my opinion.
@PintoDonald
@PintoDonald Ай бұрын
Can you do the same to another driver's car? Just to see whether the axis doesn't are the same
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 Ай бұрын
Hill's car is tested and has no steering movements in this race. Also Senna's steering wheel in lap 6 has no movement until Aqua Mineralli
@PintoDonald
@PintoDonald Ай бұрын
@@haristopal8664 Awsome job! Btw did you've tested Senna's car in previous race? I'm convinced now that was both factors: broke steering and the car's height. I think low height caused the colapse of steering column.
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 Ай бұрын
@@PintoDonald nope. But other channels have tested Senna's steering in Interlagos and Aida.
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 Ай бұрын
@@PintoDonald Car hitting on the ground might have had some impact on the steering column
@PintoDonald
@PintoDonald Ай бұрын
​@@haristopal8664 Yep... I agree. It was a totally traggedy. Btw, amazing job dud and thanks for the clarifying
@Carlos.Eduardo.Schardijn
@Carlos.Eduardo.Schardijn 11 күн бұрын
Se houvesse uma contenção de pneus no muro da Tamburello Senna poderia ter se salvado?
@BOT1001_
@BOT1001_ 27 күн бұрын
Like airplane crashes, this accident was a result of many factors. First, by a bad repaired steering column, Senna agreed to repair, instead replace. Second, race circumstances like a flat or punctured tire or tarmac ondulations at the curve. Third, bad luck when the suspension hits the helmet after the crash. If this accident occurred 100 times, how many result in fatal crash!?
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 26 күн бұрын
Exactly. Senna's death was a combination of factors including bad luck
@david-fx8ri
@david-fx8ri 17 күн бұрын
Solid bar inside tubular column where it was joined im sure it would not have failed.
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 17 күн бұрын
The wall of the piece of metal that was added had just 1mm thickness
@philipspratt8406
@philipspratt8406 Ай бұрын
There’s so many theories about how this happened but I’m of the belief that the tyre pressures played a major part in this tragedy. If there was no movement in the steering column then it would have snapped sooner, the column would have been designed with flexing in mind the same way an aircraft wing is designed to flex. Sadly we will never know, I’m grateful to have seen Ayrton race albeit not in person and saddened by his passing. RIP
@MM-mx8sr
@MM-mx8sr Ай бұрын
No, look at onboard footage during trainings or the races before, it never was flexing.
@philipspratt8406
@philipspratt8406 Ай бұрын
@@MM-mx8sr I will have to respectfully disagree with you. I understand your point but I don’t agree that the column broke before impact
@someoneunseen5168
@someoneunseen5168 Ай бұрын
​@@philipspratt8406if it was tyre pressures too low, it would have happened the previous lap, yes? On lap 6 pressures were lower than lap 7.......
@andrealeporale15
@andrealeporale15 Ай бұрын
I sobbalzi del tamburello hanno fatto in modo che si spezzasse definitivamente... Quei 3 buchi in centro curva fatti a 300 kmh hanno sollecitato tantissimo il piantone di sterzo ed infatti in quel momento proprio sui sobbalzi senna va dritto, i sobbalzi lo hanno fatto rompere del tutto...
@Housestationlive
@Housestationlive Ай бұрын
so he had a whole minute to rewind his life in his mind. i thought he knew just 2 seconds before.
@Fokfeesspecial
@Fokfeesspecial 3 ай бұрын
I wish he has felt something than maybe He was still alive. Senna wouldn't stop the car soon though. anyway i wish they had tech-pro barriers back then. Or the chicane (not a fan of chicanes, but it would saved him)
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 3 ай бұрын
For sure this was an accident that shouldn't have happened
@Fokfeesspecial
@Fokfeesspecial 3 ай бұрын
@@haristopal8664 Do you think a halo would have saved him? anyway i'm still not over this weekend. It shure changed the sport. definitely think he could be 6 or 7 times world champion, like schumacher.
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 3 ай бұрын
@@Fokfeesspecial Perhaps. Senna was killed because parts of the car penetrated his visor. Experts claim that he would have survived if he had crashed at a slightly different angle. At this point we cant tell that he would have survived if he had decided to stop the car earlier than Tamburello. He had the chance to do that.
@suaaltezaimperial1295
@suaaltezaimperial1295 Ай бұрын
Os engenheiros da williams só executaram, mas o "mandante" foi a FIA q nunca respeitou o ser humano e valiou acima de tudo a sua ganância por dinheiro
@microsoft1665
@microsoft1665 Ай бұрын
Can u do this analysis but include all laps color by color?
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 Ай бұрын
By all laps you mean qualifying and warmup?
@microsoft1665
@microsoft1665 Ай бұрын
​@@haristopal8664 i meant the race, but there was only safety-car until accident maybe?
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 Ай бұрын
@@microsoft1665 True. Senna's lap 6 was his only normal race lap. There is some onboard during safety car and steering seems normal
@GloriaSlap
@GloriaSlap Ай бұрын
​@@haristopal8664it could be normal movement flex, you need to compare to another hot lap or Damons car
@ruypetra
@ruypetra 15 күн бұрын
I heard that Williams FW16 number 2 had two black boxes, one for telemetry and the other for the conversation between Ayrton and his team... both, according to testimony from authorities, were discovered semi-intact in the parc fermé shortly after a race. .. but they ended up in the hands of Williams' people, who handed them over to the Italian courts completely destroyed... Why is that?
@PauloRoca
@PauloRoca 28 күн бұрын
Dude, I didn't see anything that the text suggests during the video, Im try.
@harrytarded7002
@harrytarded7002 3 ай бұрын
i subbed just for this
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for your support
@FabianoOFaria
@FabianoOFaria Ай бұрын
You could subtitle the videos into Portuguese?
@Housestationlive
@Housestationlive Ай бұрын
i already watches the same videos 5 years ago, you were not the first to investigate on this. the other videos might have been removed, fia don't like them very much!
@samsenafiel10
@samsenafiel10 Ай бұрын
Senna forever!!
@miguelachucarro8565
@miguelachucarro8565 27 күн бұрын
Supuestamente era parte del diseño que tenga ese movimiento.. pero en brasil no lo tenia. Y si fuera asi entonces fue implementado para Imola? Pero si no lo fue, y venia con ese extraño movimiento del volante: por que Senna no se detuvo apenas al notarlo? Tanta era su desesperacion para ganar que no le importo que algo tan delicado no este en condiciones de operar y aun asi piso el acelerador a fondo? Son cuestiones que nunca pero nunca lo sabremos.
@bozorenic9561
@bozorenic9561 26 күн бұрын
Ayrton je bio preiskusan vozač, kako nije primjetio da nešto ne valja sa volanom i jednostavno zaustavio bolid. Mislim da je volan pukao nakon udara u zid. Ali da su radovi bili loše izvedeni na Williamsu, to je istina.
@user-ws5nw8jf8t
@user-ws5nw8jf8t Ай бұрын
コーナリング中にステアリングシャフトが折れ、操作不能に。 それが原因! コーナーを高速走行中にハンドルから両手を離してみれば分かる。車体がどのような動きするか。 セナのマシンと同じ、急激にアウト側に向きを変えていく。
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 Ай бұрын
True
@user-ws5nw8jf8t
@user-ws5nw8jf8t Ай бұрын
@@haristopal8664 thank you so much😍
@giorgiodarta7493
@giorgiodarta7493 3 ай бұрын
👍
@Housestationlive
@Housestationlive Ай бұрын
he didn't call his radio "hello i'm gonna retire!" "hello i'm gonna die!" let's be realistic, senna was a believer.
@andreavelinodacosta1418
@andreavelinodacosta1418 3 ай бұрын
Next chapters please ...
@tomspiers2087
@tomspiers2087 12 күн бұрын
self proclaimed "Experts" over analysing blurry video and coming up with their own conclusions despite not being present. Why do I suddenly feel like it's 2002 again?
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 12 күн бұрын
No one has proclaimed himself as expert. The analysis is based on observation and nothing is wrong with that.
@tomspiers2087
@tomspiers2087 12 күн бұрын
@@haristopal8664 And the "analysis" is flawed and cherry picking based on an emotional attempt at conformation bias.
@tudoavacalhado110
@tudoavacalhado110 Ай бұрын
pode apagar esse video,o damom hill dss se a barra tivesse quebrada nao era essa a posiçao das maos do senna e cabo.
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 Ай бұрын
This one has been answered already
@SDRACING22
@SDRACING22 3 ай бұрын
david coulthard told fittipaldi at a lunch that sennas steering broke on practise aswell .. DC was test driver then it is my belief williams botched the steering extension, i also think they removed data sensors from the car but claimed they were damaged ... senna was far too talented to lose control of a car during a simple left handed banked corner... gerhard berger also stated when an F1 driver jumps straight on the brakes it is because he cant control the problem the car is going through , his steering column certainly failed. frank,damon hill,newey,DC, patrick head and even alain prost know it aswell!!!!!!!!
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 3 ай бұрын
Senna's steering column broke during practice as well? That's an interesting claim. Is there any way to confirm that?
@SDRACING22
@SDRACING22 3 ай бұрын
I seen a clip years back, where fittipaldi says those exact words @@haristopal8664
@SDRACING22
@SDRACING22 3 ай бұрын
It was on an old documentary, F1 drivers were discussing the crash, fittipaldi states that DC told him it failed before the race @@haristopal8664
@andreavelinodacosta1418
@andreavelinodacosta1418 3 ай бұрын
​@@haristopal8664David told Fitipald that his esteering had some kind of problem during a test ... After Imola from what i know ...
@andreavelinodacosta1418
@andreavelinodacosta1418 3 ай бұрын
​@@haristopal8664Steering ...
@nomore589
@nomore589 26 күн бұрын
I don't agree with your conclusion. Everybody who are a professional driver have a very high sensitivity with the steer, pedal and balance of the car. If the steering is loose like you said, Senna will feel it before the accident. The real cause is a rear suspension failure. After the first rear bump (viewing from Schumacher onboard cam), the rear suspension breaks and Senna's lose control. Even Nelson Piquet, after Senna's death, said that's the only possible cause for the accident. The steering button position analysis is cool, but the low quality of the generated image and the high vibration compromise your conclusion.
@sekainiheiwa3650
@sekainiheiwa3650 26 күн бұрын
That’s correct, the other absurdity is bad welding by one of the williams cook who had a hangover that evening and decided to impress welding industry to join aluminium with steel .
@Ben94
@Ben94 18 күн бұрын
Rear suspension failure doesn't explain Senna's movement seconds before his onboard footage cuts out. Also such failure doesn't make a car go straight off, rather it would make the car lose control in a sideways manner
@santamototla
@santamototla 24 күн бұрын
Reviéntanos los oídos con tus efectos especiales.
@skywelder6349
@skywelder6349 3 ай бұрын
Senna died because of a failed weld on the steering wheel.-
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 3 ай бұрын
True
@martinnbafiba1
@martinnbafiba1 3 ай бұрын
He died because he pushed too hard. Everyone in England knows it
@YouTubegast123
@YouTubegast123 2 ай бұрын
@@martinnbafiba1🤦‍♂️ everyone who knows that, has never sat in an racing car!
@YouTubegast123
@YouTubegast123 2 ай бұрын
You cant say that. Not only is that not proven, but the camera shots show something else.and of course, the car didn‘t break out either or it was due to the pressure of Schumacher - both are even more stupid to assume. However, the stupidest of all the arguments is that the driver could have made a mistake.
@ismarducic9095
@ismarducic9095 2 ай бұрын
​@@martinnbafiba1nije umro nego pogino radi loseg vara odnosno aljkavosti injzinjera koji to nisu smijeli ni predlozit i da se vari. A dze ba guro i koga
@giuseppegius6175
@giuseppegius6175 26 күн бұрын
It could have broken in any chicane (where you turn the wheel more) and senna would survive...
@ashdgee
@ashdgee 16 күн бұрын
This makes me sad
@peacfulearth
@peacfulearth Ай бұрын
Okay, after this great work you take a look on the moon landing. 😉😅
@fernandosouto7918
@fernandosouto7918 Ай бұрын
his head moves too far to the left as if the steering rod had broken at that moment
@pyerreveras4204
@pyerreveras4204 28 күн бұрын
Sempre ficou claro q a coluna de direção se rompeu!!!
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 28 күн бұрын
Yes
@geraldinejasnin7378
@geraldinejasnin7378 Ай бұрын
yes but why ayrton do not action his brakes ??
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 Ай бұрын
Good question
@briannabanx5980
@briannabanx5980 Ай бұрын
The rod "exploded" and hit his head (video shows his head leaning dramatically to the left) and from taht point onwards he was incapacitated. No steering, no braking, and strangely there was some throtle input. He was gone while still on the trrack.
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 Ай бұрын
@@briannabanx5980 Shouldn't we see an "explosion" ?
@joelapilainen
@joelapilainen 29 күн бұрын
Didn't he brake like 100 km/h off from his speed before hitting the wall?
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 29 күн бұрын
@@joelapilainen Yes. He went full on the brakes as soon as he realized he couldnt control the car
@sergioronchi2921
@sergioronchi2921 8 күн бұрын
Acque Minerali is correct name
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 8 күн бұрын
Most likely. My italian is not good at all
@rodrigoBlessedBrazil
@rodrigoBlessedBrazil 20 күн бұрын
❤THANKS ❤ Today 2024
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 20 күн бұрын
🙏🙏
@971marlone
@971marlone Ай бұрын
Conclusion:il a perdu sa vie en seulement quelques secondes.rip😢
@morturiom9651
@morturiom9651 26 күн бұрын
i wish we could just ask him.
@leonguisti9355
@leonguisti9355 Ай бұрын
Didnt adrian newye designed that car that killed senna
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 Ай бұрын
Yes
@fabriciobarros9420
@fabriciobarros9420 24 күн бұрын
Os donos da F1e a Williams são os culpados da morte de Senna!
@murrayallinger2830
@murrayallinger2830 29 күн бұрын
It was a g-force accident on cold tires, after spending 5 laps following a slow pace car. The bottom of the car bottomed out, giving Senna no way to control the car. There are changes to the motion of the steering wheel, because the entire steering wheel assembly moved by design, particularly in a corner with 3.6g.
@19popo87
@19popo87 28 күн бұрын
they were all behind the sc and the only one who crashes is the one they consider the strongest driver of all time? With cold tires you don't go straight on a long-distance curve like that...
@Richard-qu5vi
@Richard-qu5vi 22 күн бұрын
@@19popo87 actually you do go straight on if it bottoms out, either theory to me is plausible
@Ben94
@Ben94 18 күн бұрын
Yet his car would've crashed on lap 6 if that were the case, but that didn't happen now did it? Clear steering column failure
@Ben94
@Ben94 18 күн бұрын
Also the wheel assembly moving by design is the dumbest story ever. It was a clear Williams cover up. In no other session in that season nor in that weekend, does the wheel make the same movements as it did in the final seconds of Senna
@paulomonteiro3498
@paulomonteiro3498 25 күн бұрын
it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out... the steering wheel is all over the place for one whole lap.. F1 should be held accountable and got away with murder. still, it was the fastest lap with a doomed wheel. this gay wasn't from this world...
@marcocap960
@marcocap960 Ай бұрын
So Ayrton drove 30 second with a broken steering wheel without notice it. ? Are u kidding me? 😂 Let's be serious
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 Ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment
@ErickSoares3
@ErickSoares3 Ай бұрын
I understood that it was already damaged, but not broken.
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 Ай бұрын
@@ErickSoares3 damaged yes. He is using a strawman fallacy to attack me. But anyway, every comment is welcomed. By the way, steering column failed due to fatigue cracks. In Tamburello only 1/3 of the column was still attached. Still was one piece but too weak to be able to make the car steer
@Ahito1984
@Ahito1984 Ай бұрын
It really feels like the Titanic trying to steer from Iceberg with a weak steering. I cannot find any better comparison: the greatest ship of its era and the greatest driver of his time.
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 Ай бұрын
@@Ahito1984 In both cases there was a desperate attempt to avoid a problem that was diagnosed too late
@gioponti6359
@gioponti6359 Ай бұрын
That is nonsense: you can clearly see the “Rothmans” label move as well: so itis the camera that is mounted with vibration isolation, in turn things move around a bit. Plus, do you honestly think the day after Roland R died, and 2 days aftr Rubens B hat a horrible crash, someone like Senna, who actually did not want to drive that day at all, would go full steam in Tamburello, with fragile steering, knowing about the concrete wall and the speed there?
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 Ай бұрын
It is the same camera as the day before the race. It is also the same camera as every other session in Imola and the race in Brazil and Aida. Why don't we see the same movements there? Why does you argument apply only in a specific race, for a specific lap?
@gioponti6359
@gioponti6359 Ай бұрын
@@haristopal8664 literally everything moves in the video. If an analysis was to be done properly, it would relate the steering wheel motion against other firm bits on the vehicle, and then also in consideration of the distance to the camera.
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 Ай бұрын
@@gioponti6359 Why did you evade my questions?
@gioponti6359
@gioponti6359 Ай бұрын
@@haristopal8664 because they are irrelevant. Sorry to be blunt. The important thing is, the camera moves vs the car body, not much but it does. The steering wheel is a lot closer to the camera, so if the camera tilts a few degrees, as it is exposed to acceleration in all directions, everything close to the camera moves more than things further away. You need to proof relevance for your statement in order to be taken seriously.
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 Ай бұрын
@@gioponti6359 Your proof is a comparison between warmup and lap 6 of the same car. Same car, same driver, same camera. Answer the questions please
@michelbadawi1
@michelbadawi1 Күн бұрын
Car position / suspension on heavy breaking zones deceleration and low breaking acceleration. This analysis is not correct and misleading
@ricardoneri7321
@ricardoneri7321 2 ай бұрын
Não não talvez vcs não entenderam o Senna não estava emprecinado e nem tão pouco o acidente foi causado pelo dryve o problemas foram caudados por uma falha no volante do carro e não no drive como o amigo falou e em eu ou ninguém ouviu Damon hiil falar sobre isso se fosse pelo drive o problema estava sendo resolvido mas como não foi foi por isso se não viu a reportagem da época e as fotos vejam como foi concluído as investigações da época viu irmão e e melhor tomar um muito cuidado ao afirmar uma coisa como essas. Porque isso pode. Lis causa danos ao afirmar uma falta de informaçães como essas Senna na verdade foi vítima não foi porque ele foi e porque não seguiu alinha reta não ele foi reto inexplicávelmente reto e isso nem pode nos mudarmos nossa história e nem o dia que aconteceu 😃😃 entendeu e também ele não foi por pressão de jeito nenhum 😔😕 de maneira nenhuma tanto que ele não pagaria por sua imprudência no volante e nem por causa de indeposblidade e por pressão de jeito nenhum tanto que ele não pagaria pir uma coisa que não envolveria nisso ele morreu porque pelo colega estava fazendo a mesma coisa que ele e que ele foi espatifado no muro 🧱 assim que como ele Senna não e um cara suicida não de jeito nenhum e melhor pensar direitinho mesmo com todas sua experiência ele sabia o poderia acontecer fazer viu não adianta argumentar tudo e qualquer coisa não viu e isso vamos e respeitar a memória do cara se tem alguma sugestões e so e mas com raiva o Dio que isso e uma sem graça chato da gente ficar argumenando uma coisa pôr e um braço show respeito a sua família 😁☺️😃 gostei do vídeo as imagens ficaram muito bons isso mostrar muito bem como Senna tentou.faze alguma coisa alí no carro mas não teve e tempo se estivesse pneus e caixas de brita eles estavam bem vivos até até próxima semana viu um feliz páscoa para todos Deus abençoe todos vocês e valeu 💯 gostei viu muito obrigado show de acelera Ayrton Senna do Brasil 🏎️🏁🏆🏆🏎️🏁🏆🏆🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️ 🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️ tantã tantã e Senna do Brasil 🇧🇷🏁 🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁
@andersonii2012
@andersonii2012 Ай бұрын
Foi assassinado...
@Softxyo
@Softxyo 28 күн бұрын
Mercedes DAS
@davehart
@davehart Ай бұрын
Its quite simple, the car bottomed out lost downforce and by the time the slide was corrected it was heading stright for the wall. At those speeds its not surprising. Nothing to do with his steering wheel being broke before the corner.
@murrayallinger2830
@murrayallinger2830 29 күн бұрын
Exactly.
@paulstone3209
@paulstone3209 3 ай бұрын
All hypothetical, Imola is bumpy by nature, Senna was one of the most sensitive to car change
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 3 ай бұрын
By nature of course, which means it was bumpy 1993, it was bumpy in 1992 and it was bumpy in the sessions before the race in 1994. Among all drivers only one has steering wheel that is shaking and it occurs only in race. No shaking in qualifying, no shaking in warmup, no shaking until Aqua Mineralli lap 6. These bumps much have been very selective
@Joe-wj7ku
@Joe-wj7ku 2 ай бұрын
I'm not sure this is right. 1. On the footage he clearly had oversteer which wouldn't happen under steering failure. 2. The telemetry recorded steering inputs well after Senna's car left the track. 3. David Coulthard, who also raced the '94 Williams, demonstrated the flexibility in the steering to camera.
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 2 ай бұрын
More or less all these are have already been answered. 1. Until steering fails is it functioning which means oversteer could happen. 2. Telemetry did record steering inputs, that is true. But those inputs were so low as if there was no attempt to steer. According to experts report when steering failed the column was still connected about 30%. Tiny amounts of force could still be recorded but this does not mean the steering wheel was functioning. 3. Thats also true. My question is why don't we see any flexibility in any of the 2 cars, in any session, of every race with the exception of Senna's last minute of racing in Imola before his crash?
@nyftn
@nyftn 3 ай бұрын
his ego got him killed . i have no doubt he could feel the malfunction. he knew what he was driving but took the risk . if the steering wheel you hold on to starts moving very differently than every time before he should have slowed down and go into pits . maybe he was a great driver but not the smartest. i was watching the race on tv . i didn't think like this when it took place. but after all the evidence and investigations it's clear he knew he was driving over the limit with a damaged car.
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 3 ай бұрын
That's what I believe. He had the time and the opportunity to retire the car
@Fredfrothin
@Fredfrothin 3 ай бұрын
He already had 3 dnfs 0 points we will never know if any of this was a factor
@haristopal8664
@haristopal8664 3 ай бұрын
@@Fredfrothin He was surely under heavy pressure
@YouTubegast123
@YouTubegast123 2 ай бұрын
🤦‍♂️
@peterjohnson8935
@peterjohnson8935 2 ай бұрын
Agreed. Listening to Senna speak he was born to race. 'racing is in my blood'. Look at the battles he had with Prost. He didn't want Schumacher to win three races in a row.
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