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It's funny that when this guy reviewed the HD800 (old version) there was no mention of any flaws. There simply was no better headphone, till a new model comes along. Wich you of course had to have.

"The world's best headphone in stock form" thank you so much, that's what all I ever wanted to valadate using my HD800s without any mods or Eqs.

Damn you and your logically organized, and comprehensive reviews without fan-boi hype! I've tried and owned a few of the models you reviewed. While I could have been satisfied with the fun HD600, or maybe the detailed DT-1990 pro...the HD800s are like the corvette Z06 among mustang Gt's. Nothing wrong with a well-equipped mustang GT. But a mustang simply doesn't have the performance envelope of the Z06. The HD800S seem to be the best, if not in the top 2 of existing headphones. I say that, because the 820 are NOT better, despite an extra $1000. The final audio Sonorus X have the same driver as my III's do. ZMF sound wildly irregular to me with an odd frequency balance. The 800S to me, are like having those ultra-premium big floorstanding speakers in an optimum room. "There is no replacement for displacement" and the 800S handle deep bass that others cannot , or cannot produce at all. I purchased my 800S as "refurb" and almost $500 off new. If you are the religious type, they could be described as the voice of God. Or at least, A God. They make many other cans seem pedestrian or toy-like. The 800S are properly revealing, and make other cans sound just plain veiled, and "dynamically constipated".

My headphone dream is to finally own an HD800S.. someday soon.. someday soon. Great review there Tyll and thanks for the accompanying video mod footage.

Thanks for the exhaustive examination of the HD800s and HD800 and the difference between the two.

Wow, didn't realise this headphone was so awesome. Can't wait for Tyll to review the Sennheiser HE1060.

Sennheiser better loan the new Orpheus to Tyll for an extensive review , or else!

I can finally say that I am listening to this with my sdr modded hd800's!!!

Thank you for fixing the sound. Much better now.

Some of the comments are misunderstanding what's being compared here. The HD800 MSRP is $1,495. The HD800S MSRP was $1,595, now $1,695 as of 2019. The latest flagship from sennheiser is the HD820 closed back design has a MSRP of $2,695 as of 2019.

I miss this guy

Recently got the 800S and they sound amazing. I listen to mostly jazz, and classical LPs through a Rega RP3 and a Marantz amp. Having a good source like a reference pressing (Bill Evans mofi one step pressing) makes these headphones sound amazing...

I sold my HD800's because I couldn't get on with their thin sound, and I found my old HD650's to be much more fun to listen too. The HD650's sounded like cotton wool after listening to the HD800's, but once you got climatized to them it was okay. I would love to have a pair of HD880s, though, but I can't afford it right now.

Thanks for the review Tyl!!! Really cool to hear someone go into the finite details of the modifications and the extent to which these alter the characteristics of the headphones.

I'm so glad I don't have golden ears. I have the HD800 and have never found them to be tiring or to have this resonance at 6K. I guess when you don't look for problems, or listen for them in this case, you can stay blissfully ignorant and just enjoy things.

The new mic and other gear is great!!!

Can you do a video on the benefits of the 4-pin balanced cable vs single ended?

Your review helped me to make the decision to buy a pair of 800s..big thanks :)

Awesome, simple Awesome REview, thank you for such a detailed review, big hug from this part of the world.

Man the peak 6khz problem is what I feel like many of their headphones have, I hear it on the 280 and 380 pros as well. Sibilance is overkill.

The most common problem as far as frequencies response is in which technology drivers is wounded. The best solution in my opinion is super thin copper sheet. And of course low ohm regime as much as possible. I have handmade phones patented on 6 ohms regime and they sounds almost perfect.

I found that Dekoni pads added just enough bass to really extend the bass.

Nice shirt Tyll:). Going to buy HD800S later in summer, great review!!!

All I know is, I briefly listened to several heaphones at a HiFi shop with some other popular, albeit cheaper, headphones and while each of the cheaper ones were good you could instantly pick out each strength and weakness then I tried this headphone and honestly could not pick out a weakness.

Can't wait to get my hand on the 800s that's going to complete my headphone collection.

and here i am watching a video about a pair of headphones i probably will never buy and listening to the differences in sound that i might never notice.

lol 7 years old and still looks futuristic and simply mindblowing...althought i expect sennheiser to keep moving forward, they need a new design now..

+InnerFidelity - Tyll, how do you justify starting out this video stating that the HD800/S is the worlds best headphone, then spend the rest of the video talking about how it falls short, needs modifications, and is really preferred when used with EQ because it just doesn't have enough bass. (note - honest question, not trying to be "that guy") What about the HD800/S makes it the worlds best headphone over headphones (such as many of the ones found in the Big Sound 2015 roundup). It feels like there are a couple of major nits to pick with the HD800/S and most of the other TOTL gear you review, while you have complaints, most of the time it's stressed that they are minor. Cheers.

I hope you’re doing well !!! Please comment.You are missed.

LOL i love KZfaq's closed captions. The text reads: "Hi, toilet and infidelity here today..." 😂

Exceptional review, thanks a lot!

I have a hard time understanding that anyone would want better headphones than the 800s, especially after using them with proper equipment, for me they are the end of the game.

Best headphone is a stretch. One of the best, possibly.

yeess been waiting for impressions on these even though i will never have the balls to save up for one :D

I don't see how a little donut inside is extra $600 :/

I laughed at 11:08. Expected, but unexpected.

i got senheiser px100 for over 7 years now. and ive tried tons of headphones up to 400$ never found anything better..

You can't just simply change a driver to "add some extra 2nd harmonic distortion below 100hz" We're talking fundamental redesign of the driver itself.. Which would inevitably change a host of other parameters aswell.

wow... the company thought they could do a better job at modifying a problem, in a model of their own headphones... not by releasing a cheap and simple little fix for the existing pair... but forcing us to buy a whole brand new set of headphones and doubling the price doing nothing else but fixing the original problem!... WOW THANKS!...

congratulations on thirty thousand

The worlds best beaten by Focal? Or only in price?

Thanks for this super informative vid!

thanks tyll for your videos.

Hello i have hd800s with hdvd800 amp. I have the volume dial at around 1oclock, is this too loud will it wreck my headphones.

Damn they are going to charge 600 more dollars just for adding a little donut?

Interesting, someone did some independent FEA on the original to figure out a damping solution; Sennheiser grabbed the ball and did a proper modal analysis. Why didn't Sennheiser do the proper modal analysis on the first model? Then again, just saw the LCD 4 review; there may be another candidate for more in depth modelling.

good to see that you got a nice mic :)

I think the HD 800 has enough bass. As a mixer, I think that adding audible? distortion is an awful way to do it. like what the hell. these are 1,7k headphones. these are not reference headphones for sure. honestly even if I wasn't a mixer I would not wanna have these. just imagine if in a track you got a synth which is distorted in the bass... the 2nd harmonic's volume will be amplified a LOT and it can sound waaaay different. this is crazy.

Still the best headphones!

I did try the HD 800 S but feel uneasy about buying an expensive product which has been subject to the technological sticking plaster of resonators, etc. The bass is still lacking in substance and still has piercing sibilance with certain tracks such a Lipgloss by Pulp.

Something with these headphones bother me a lot: the headband says HD800, not HD800S.

Will there be a Hifiman He1000 vs Sennheiser HD 800 S video?

5:26-5:56 I didnt understand any of that but I appreciate it.

Are you going to do review of that Sennheizer Orpheus successor headphones? Sennheiers HE1060.

Why don't headphone manufacturers develop covers to place over the open back headphones so that the user has the option to make their open back headphones into a closed back headphone for more bass if they so desire?

I wonder if they 5 times better than the Philips Fidelio X2?

Have anyone encounter HD 800 s cable insulation pear off? i face with this problem the second times.

Best headphones for mixing & mastering, used with Sonarworks calibration + Waves NX ?

Someday I will buy the hd800, do the mod, and then re paint them to look like the hd800S ;)

i rly would like to see a review of the hd700. what do you thing about it in comparison to hd600 and hd800?

I use the HD700 and the sibilance is annoying at times also.

Maybe this is a dumb question, but can eq can get same Highs that HD800 has?

Stax all the way!!

Very informative video !!!!

Seems like it should be a silent revision "fix" as opposed to an actual upgrade

Wow, so much messing around for trying to curb that peak on the HD800 model. I just swapped the cable for an after-market cable and voila - huge improvement - just like buying new phones, like the HD800 S some might say. I can't speak for all aftermarket cables but the one I got from Moon Audio was a very good move. Don't chop up your headphones. And before you upgrade your phones, just try a good aftermarket cable first.

Anyone use the ican se with this? Are there any better solid state amps for the hd800 from $300 to $500?

Hi , can you take some time to review the very popular Fostex TH-00 sold on Massdrop? Thanks

time for the focal elear and utopia.

Can you please do a review of Pioneer se-master1. I heard it is better than hd800s in every way. Besides I heard the utopia you have reviewed is already better than it. Thank you

Suggestion for EQ to use on a modded 800? Suggested settings ???

Wow. Tyll has a serious love hate relationship with the headphones. Every time he mentions the HD800, he trashes it for its brightness and its lack of good lows but praises its soundstage and yet Ive never heard him call this the worlds greatest hp until today.

Is the S harder to drive than the non S?

Hallo I really need some help, I'm a pro drummer and I got the Shure se535 couple of years ago, and I want to buy the JH Roxanne [custom] because I want something in that price point that can be used on a stage but in home for listening to. but now that I see that the HD 800S cost jast us mach I want to buy them and stay with the SE535 to stage use. the problem is that I dont have a super nice amp\DAC [MICCA ORIGEN]. is it a problem? and after all this, is getting the Sennheiser HD 800 S instead of the JH roxane is a good choice? thank you! you guys are awesome!

In love with my one, It tears the fabric of reality and shows you the face of God, On a serious note, it tends to have boundaries to it, soundstage where the HD 800 does not tend to, The HD 800 seems to go on forever LOL But you will be spending quite a lot of your time searching for the source to make it sound good you will not have that problem with the S variant And by good I mean A perfect matching sound source

+InnerFidelity - Tyll which amp or type of amp would you recommend for the HD800s?

So which are the best headphones Stax SR900 The Focal Utopia or these?

i want these

HI. I would like to ask you a question. Since this upgrade is similar to HD600 that goes into HD650, I wonder if HD800S aren't a bit less detailed then original one?

Hello Tyll, At this time i have got the akg k712, and i want to step up my headphone game. at this point i consider the Focal elear, the mr. speakers ether and the hd 800/800S. i have got a eq system. But i do not want to modify my headphones. In this video you say that the hd800 with mod and eq is superior to the hd800S. I wonder if it is still true without a mod. and overall witch headphone you enjoy the most. Thank you very much.

Plz review AKG 712 pro.

Is it easier to drive the S than the old Hd800?

Can i send my HD800 to Sennheiser(Or somewhere) to get them modded to the HD800s ?

What about the Orpheus Tyll? Aren't those the best?

A bargain at 1600 Euro ?? You must be from another planet😂

compared with de T1?

I’m getting these headphones because I’m allergic to neodymium Which has a nickel in it because I have a nickel allergy and most headphones have Neodymium But the sanitizer HD 800s headphones is doufol Transistors which is more of a plastic

What I would like to know is whether or not the hd800s is as picky with amps as the hd800 and could this new version be "listenable" with under $1000 or even under $500 amp dac combos.

Hey Tyll! what about Abyss 1266 VS HD800S?

What do you think about hd800 and sonarworks reference?

so.... they took the 700 driver popped it in the 800 took down the high end painted it black and done ?

Are these as clear as the 800? And how do the sound stage on these compare to the 800?

This might be a stupid question but does the hd800s out perform the focal elear? I understand that they are different, but I'm looking for people's opinion.

Hello great review. You say the HD 800s is one of the best headphones in the world. Are they better than the AKG K1000?

Tyll, how do you think these things compare with LCD-3?

I have about 20 KZfaq music lists with thousands of songs I have loved over the last 57 years. Am I correct to assume that listening to HD on KZfaq with the Sennheiser 800 is like using an atomic bomb to kill a rat? Or no? I don't want streaming online music, they don't have what I want, my lists on KZfaq are way too extensive to move over even if there was a way. Your Opinion?

please review the hd 700 i only trust you