Sennheiser MKH 416 VS Shure SM7B Test

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Sennheiser MKH 416 VS Shure SM7B Test

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Күн бұрын

Did a quick video comparing the legendary Sennheiser MKH416 so the ultra-popular Shure SM7B.
It is quite astonishing how little difference there is between the two, especially on mobile devices speakers.
Bare in mind I am no expert in sound engineering (not yet haha) and these are just my observations after owning the mics for a while.
Both are very solid choices and a worthy investment if you can afford them.
Link bellow is to The Booth Junkie mentioned in the video:
/ boothjunkievo
If you have any question - post bellow 👇
#mkh416 #sm7b #bmpcc6k ************************************************
Gear I use / recommend:
Cameras:
Panasonic S52x
Panasonic S5
Panasonic GH6
Sony a74
Sony a7s3
Blackmagic BMPCC6K
Blackmagic BMPCC4K
Lenses:
Spherical:
Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8
Sigma 105mm f/2.8 Macro
Sigma 40mm f/1.4
Sigma 35mm f/1.4
Sigma 20mm f/1.4
Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8
Sigma 50-100mm f/1.8
Sigma 150-600mm f/5-6.3 Sport & Contemporary
Panasonic 20-60mm f/3.5-5.6
Nikon-17-55mm f/2.8
Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8
Zeiss Jena Vintage Set
Laowa 100mm 2xMacro
Laowa 15mm f/4 Macro
Anamorphic:
Sirui Mars 24mm T2.9
Sirui Mars 35mm T2
Sirui Mars 50mm T2
Sirui Mars 75mm T2
Microphones:
Sennheiser MKH416
AudioTechnika BP4025
MicBooster Clippies
Rode NT1
Shure SM7B
Field Recorders:
Zoom F3
Zoom F6
Zoom H1n
Headphones / Speakers for Mastering:
Beyerdynamic Dt990Pro
Beyerdynamic Dt770Pro
Personus Eris E5
Adam Audio A7X
Studio Lights:
Amaran 60X
Amaran 100X Bi-Color COB LED
Various Rechargeable LED Video Pocket Lights
Workstations / Laptops:
Mac Mini M2
MacBook Pro M2Pro
MacBook Air M2
Photo / Video Editing Monitor:
BenQ PD2700U
Recommended Accessories:
PolarPro VND Peter McKinnon
Promise filter
National Geographic Carbon Fibre Tripod
Innorel RT90C Carbon Fibre Tripod
Innorel N52 Ball Head
Manfrotto 504X Fluid Head
DF DIGITALFOTO Micolive Blimp with Dead Cat
Anker Battery Bank
Scarlet 212 2i2
Elgato HDMI to USB Dongle
Calibrite ColorChecker
Mogami Cables
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@ivomartijn7400 Жыл бұрын

Actually, the story of how the 416 became a voice-over mic is different. ABC promo voice Ernie Anderson, back in the '80s, one day decided he didn't want to record in the booth anymore. He wanted to do it in the control room, where the sound engineer and producer were sitting. Since the large diaphragm condenser they used, was unusable in that noisy room, the sound engineer walked over to an adjacent sound stage, grabbed a 416 they were using there, and put Ernie behind it. Anderson liked the mic so much that he never wanted to use anything else anymore. So, he got his own and took it with him to recording studio's when he had to do a job there. That way, sound engineers all over L.A. were introduced to the 416 as a voice-over mic and word started to spread.

@CINENIMUS Жыл бұрын

That's fascinating - do you have a link to share to the original source?

@ivomartijn7400 Жыл бұрын

@@CINENIMUS I saw a video once in which Joe Cipriano tells this story, but I couldn't find it quickly. He might tell it at some point in one of 'his' video's here on KZfaq. You can see Anderson working in this set-up here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mquihdWkurrFdZ8.html

@CINENIMUS Жыл бұрын

@@ivomartijn7400 what a gem this video - wow. Love them behind the scenes especially from the good old days. Well I think it was a combination of thigs that brought the MKH416 to the hights of what we se it today. I love it I use it every day even for the Zoom calls haha and when I have it very close to me and just at the right angle - the sound is something special. What do you use?

@voicetube 3 ай бұрын

I actually it was around in that time, growing up in LA and being a professional voiceover artist, going around to different studios and I think it was at LA Studios doing voiceover when I was remarking how I had been seeing (and loving) that microphone around town (at almost every recording studio). Someone mentioned that (I guess it was Ernie Anderson) had tried one and liked it so much that he took it with him around to studios and the studios ended up ordering their own to have for him and others and it grew in popularity. I had never heard the control room story (but that does make sense!).

@voicetube 3 ай бұрын

PS, although your avatar looks a lot like a TLM 103, I'm wondering, is that by any chance a photo of a TLM 170?

@natulyen Жыл бұрын

Nice comparison. Thanks for that! Personally I use the Synco Mic D-2 myself, which is a very close competitor to the Sennheiser MKH 416 but for much less money. Booth Junkie did a direct comparison on his channel.

@CINENIMUS Жыл бұрын

Yeah I have seen it 👌 in his booth EVERYTHING sounds amazing 😅 what it means that the gear is just the tools it’s up to us to make them work well 💪

@winniethepooh8521 Жыл бұрын

The Sennheiser sounds amazingggg. I’m glad you bought it. Enjoy :)

@CINENIMUS Жыл бұрын

Me too haha

@top_tech.500k 2 жыл бұрын

*A million thanks for the great informative review 👍 ✨ ✨ ✨* *The 416 sounds much brighter then the sm7band there is hisss sound in sm7b, the 416 is a super cleam and quite😎*

@sung_yun Жыл бұрын

Hey bro, you would make a fantastic actor, people would love you, lol. Thanks for this great comparison.

@CINENIMUS Жыл бұрын

Thanks man ha maybe in another life

@CharliePayne1 Жыл бұрын

Just came cross your channel and we want you to know that we love your vibe, so chill and fresh compared to to overstimulation on KZfaq at the moment! Thank you for the review, we brought the Sennheiser MKH 416 for our outdoor filming projects! 🫡

@CINENIMUS Жыл бұрын

Aw thank you - yeah I do it mostly to practice the craft and have fun it’s my hobby thats all and I love sharing with people 🤷🏻‍♂️ mkh416 is one of the few constant things that remains in my studio 🫡

@SoComposed 5 ай бұрын

Shotgun mics are made for either outdoor spaces or acoustically well-treated spaces. The periferations on the sides are made to hear repeated sounds in the background and cancel them out. So if your voice is bouncing off walls in an untreated space, then it will be somewhat canceled out and sound much worse (due to certain frequencies being sometimes completely canceled out). So if you are using a shotgun, ONLY use it in a treated space! :)

@CINENIMUS 5 ай бұрын

Look at my later videos this is ancient

@garyclement5527 2 жыл бұрын

enjoy your work. I will watch you more and learn.

@CINENIMUS 2 жыл бұрын

aw that means a lot to me brother :) new video coming out tomorrow!

@Janio. 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this in depth breakdown ! Still debating on wether or not it's worth it to uprade from a condenser microphone ( sennheiser MK 4 ) to the 416 for youtube stuff.

@CINENIMUS 2 жыл бұрын

I think if you want it - go for it - I love mine 😍 editing a video I have done in the woods its fantastic to record stuff outdoors too 👌

@jackd6129 2 жыл бұрын

This is such useful information. Thanks so much for the effort you put into this 💙

@CINENIMUS 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you - that really means a lot to me ❤️

@bigmoomusic Жыл бұрын

great comparison, totally agree

@CINENIMUS Жыл бұрын

Thanks

@apsauginiz 2 жыл бұрын

great video, keep going 👍👍😎

@CINENIMUS 2 жыл бұрын

thanks brother - will do!

@JonCrowVO 7 ай бұрын

Honestly, this comparison really sold the 416 to me. Think I will be buying one to swap out my SM7b. Cheers!

@CINENIMUS 7 ай бұрын

thanks, try finding the video I made about sound treating my new studio - over there the differences in environment show how important the room treatment is, more than any mic

@JonCrowVO 7 ай бұрын

Oh you needn't fret, I work as a Voice Actor so my studio is already treated. This mic is really popular in the community so I wanted to see how it compared. Thanks again! @@CINENIMUS

@CINENIMUS 3 ай бұрын

For me nothing beats senheisser

@photony Жыл бұрын

Thank you. This is a great comparison. I've been using the SM7B for my podcast. I'm now using the Synco Mic D2 for VO, it's so close to the Sennheiser MKH 416, but for 1/5 of the price. Have you tried that mic?

@CINENIMUS Жыл бұрын

Nope, married the mkh416 we are together for life haha. Check out my later videos - in a properly treated studio - better by long shot

@simplychidi Жыл бұрын

What is your opinion on when you compare the kid brother of the 416 talking about the sennheisser mke 600 to the SM7B? It is a fairer comparison because they are closer in price bracket.

@CINENIMUS Жыл бұрын

Almost indistinguishable from mkh416 👌

@adonlux 9 ай бұрын

I agree that it suits your voice much better. Also, yes it’s expensive but I think it will hold its value pretty damn well in case you regret it. Otherwise it’s money well spent! Good video

@CINENIMUS 9 ай бұрын

Thanks! I am still using the Sennheiser every day 😱

@adonlux 9 ай бұрын

And I just bought one 😅 I am still just a hobbyist, mainly photographer but beginning to start making more video work. I’m so excited for this one.

@learningisfun273 Күн бұрын

I have the same setup, mkh 416 into the 2i2. What settings are you using for 2i2? We have a similar voice profile and we speak at the same average volume so knowing your gain settings, etc. would help me out much. Thanks! Also, THATS WHAT SHE SAID lol

@CINENIMUS Күн бұрын

No idea everything changed by now look at my latest video not the one from years ago haha

@learningisfun273 Күн бұрын

@@CINENIMUS can you recommend one of your videos where you discuss your settings with the mkh 416?

@almynotes Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. Do you think a shotgun (I'm considering slightly different version MKH8050 or Sanken CS-M1) are suitable options for talking heads? I'm curious if they will sound still fine if I type something on the keyboard or they will pick up a lot of this noise?

@CINENIMUS Жыл бұрын

Yes shotgun mics will pick up less keyboard clicking but you should not be clicking keyboard in first place haha and be in a well treated environment

@DeyanIlievDoctora 2 ай бұрын

May I ask if sony fx 3 can handle 416 directly?

@CINENIMUS 2 ай бұрын

you can ask but I cannot tell as I have never tried it. I never use mic's on camera I record to a 32 bit recorder

@top_tech.500k 2 жыл бұрын

*Have you don any filtering on the sounds of the mics while recording this test or on post production or it is dry sound coming direct from the microphones?* *Thanks again*

@CINENIMUS 2 жыл бұрын

No altering what so ever

@ahfimiwonawun Жыл бұрын

How did you get the self noise information on the sm7b? 22 dbs is super high!!! Wow!

@CINENIMUS Жыл бұрын

All mics have it in the spec sheets

@91darko 10 ай бұрын

Are there any sound/voice distortions from 40-50cm away and 30 degrees axis on Sennheiser MKH 416?

@CINENIMUS 10 ай бұрын

There might be. Trial and error is the best if in doubt

@bunek2234 2 жыл бұрын

Only 97 left in 2022!

@CINENIMUS 2 жыл бұрын

ez. lol

@christianburgos2736 2 жыл бұрын

Hello there great video. How i can connect the Sennheiser MKH 416 to a camera... like the Sony ZV-1 a million thanks for your time.

@CINENIMUS 2 жыл бұрын

You would need an external phantom powered 48v recorder 🙂

@christianburgos2736 2 жыл бұрын

@@CINENIMUS Any recommendations? 🤔🤗😁

@CINENIMUS 2 жыл бұрын

@@christianburgos2736 I like my Zoom F3 but you could also get a focusrite scarlett solo if you are not planning to take it outside. Depends what you want it for?

@themclaughs7 2 жыл бұрын

If there’s no way to treat the room (an apartment), it seems like the Sennheiser is better. Will having a good mic preamp/amp will help with the noise?

@CINENIMUS 2 жыл бұрын

there is of course and the answer to that is - fluffy stuff :) I use our dog beds, winter duvets or just any general clutter lol anything to break the sound waves. Not always but I found it when I do it helps more than any post processing or even a good mic. Nowadays all preamps are good, most of them have no observable self noise what so ever especially f you are listening on a mobile device, laptop speakers or even earbuds, and even then only a good trained ear can maybe hear something but I doubt. Again the most important thing is 1. room treatment (and it can be totally DIY, no need anything expensive) and 2. mic placement (that one you have to trial yourself very dependant on your voice and the environment you are in)

@asianguy6174 2 жыл бұрын

The Sennheiser may reject more noise from behind and to the sides, but as a condenser mic it picks up too much reverberation from the walls and higher frequencies. The SM7b is a dynamic mic. It picks up less ambience noise and less of the higher frequencies.

@User-ys7cb 8 ай бұрын

@@asianguy6174It's not a big deal if your room isn't terrible.

@jaycranmer2001 Жыл бұрын

I know game grumps and jacksepticy use the senheiser 416 microphone

@CINENIMUS Жыл бұрын

It is a good mic but really most new mic are this one is more of a luxury than necessity

@ruslanadayev589 Жыл бұрын

Shure doesn't have a very high self-noise at all, but since it's very gain-hungry, it brings up the preamp noise way up. Or maybe it picks up the fans of your laptop. But listening to your video in good headphones, the noise level is very noticeable. Nothing a little bit of post-processing can't fix, but still

@CINENIMUS Жыл бұрын

I find dynamic mics always louder than condenser. More gain does not equal to more preamp noise not in this case - more gain actually makes mic sound cleaner contrary to the info you will find online.

@ruslanadayev589 Жыл бұрын

@@CINENIMUS well, that goes in contrast with my experience. It's much more noticeable with cheaper soundcards like Behringer UMC-22, but I just tested my Focusite Saffire Pro 40, and recording a port with nothing connected to it on minimal gain yields me noise level of -92dbfs. Cranking the gain knob to the 10, the noise rises to around -59dbfs. And plugging in my Shure SM7b yields -91dbfs on 0 gain and -54dbfs on 10 gain (which includes the noise of my PC fans). And I need to set the gain to 9 at least for the recording, or else I'll be too quiet. On 10 I sometimes clip while screaming, but it's good for calls. I don't have Sennheiser MKH416 but I have Audio-technica AT4037a which is also a shotgun mic and it was sold at a similar MRSP, and it has the same output level at 0 gain as SM7b at 9 (with the same distance from the mouth to the grill), and AT4037 with gain on 3 it's the same as SM7b with gain at 10.

@ruslanadayev589 Жыл бұрын

@@CINENIMUS I dunno, maybe my test methodology is wrong, but to me it seems like SM7b basically equals in noise to the preamp, and preamp at almost-max gain is noisier than at almost-zero gain. So almost 0 mic noise + a bunch of preamp noise becomes louder than a bit of self-noise + a bit of preamp noise. But I will gladly go and study this more if you can give me some sources that talk about it

@CINENIMUS Жыл бұрын

@@ruslanadayev589 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nNiRm5uWp9y5kok.html hope this helps 🤞

@ruslanadayev589 Жыл бұрын

@@CINENIMUS maybe I'm bad at explaining, but this video supports what I already meant to say. Dynamic mics have lower self-noise and lower output level. Condensers have both of those higher. So in a dynamic microphone the preamp noise plays a bigger role in a recording. Also @ 5:36 of that video: "As you could hear, the preamp noise can definitely have a big impact on the noise floor... if you use a dynamic mic". So... it proves my point? That it's not Shure that's noisy, it's the preamp?

@rjronny 2 жыл бұрын

I just buy the Sennheiser MKH 416. but i dont get any sound from it. its connected to my goxlr. Is there something more i need to do to get sound from it?

@CINENIMUS 2 жыл бұрын

did you enable phantom power to the port?

@rjronny 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I found out i have to put gain to 50 to get sound. And that is to much i think. And that is with the mic next to my face

@CINENIMUS 2 жыл бұрын

@@rjronny most important with any mic is the room treatment really so make sure if say you have hard wood floor you cover it with a carpet or something similar also when mic is right next to your face try and have it at about 45 degree angle to avoid all the plosive sounds

@rjronny 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for you answer. I will try this

@muen1842 2 жыл бұрын

@@rjronny oh! And try the fethead phantom! It’s made to provide clean gain to condenser mics. So it will be clean and louder! Not the original fett head as that is not made for condensers. Fethead phantom :)