Colonel Brandon's proposal to allow Edward Ferrars and Lucy Steele to marry. With English Subtitles.
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@theresabollman80615 жыл бұрын
An example of real love. She still wants the best for him even though she so wants him for her own.
@theresabollman80613 жыл бұрын
@@jasonbaileystudent9088 Thank You, Jason.
@doveandpatch3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but it also protects her from by showing her as less interested in Edward than her acquaintances once thought she was. She could hardly tell Col. Brandon to not give him the living without requiring further explanation, even refusing to be the one who informed Edward of the opportunity would have required explanation.
@theresabollman80613 жыл бұрын
@@doveandpatch Yes, thats true.
@laceandribbonsviolin5 ай бұрын
Also knowing that his promise to Miss Steele meant he would make a faithful husband must have cut her inwardly - because she valued faithfulness even when she didn’t get to be the person he was faithful to, because it meant that if she was on the receiving end of his faithfulness she could trust him to be loyal forever. A double-edged sword
@o0OHermioneO0o4 жыл бұрын
"As you know, I am no orator." Dude, you're about to be a clergyman. Practice!😅 Jane Austen really had a thing for tongue-tied male leads.😂
@harringt1003 жыл бұрын
Isn't there a line where he talks about "giving very short sermons?" I can't remember if it's in the book or only in one of the adaptions or which one.
@plutonianshores133 жыл бұрын
@@harringt100 I haven't read the book but in this film yes, he says that exact line!
@rowanaforrest97922 жыл бұрын
I think Edward will be a charming clergyman with short sermons that no one minds sitting through. Also, I suspect he won't wear a wig! :D
@angelwhispers20602 жыл бұрын
The entire point of Jane Austen's novels was for girls to get the understanding that they should be more careful about the men that are overly Charming that they were likely to be Fortune hunters or fraudsters or gamesters. And a man who is a bit tongue-tied a little messed up in his social manners was better than a man who could charm everyone in the room but have no loyalty or morals.
@susanweber6861 Жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing lol, some preacher you’ll make
@dagenn7904 Жыл бұрын
Elinor's little grimace at 3:07 as she watches Edward walk out of her life forever (she believes) is simply astonishing in how in one gesture is captured her struggle to remain proper, gracious and composed in the face of such anguish and heartbreak. For me, Emma Thompson deserved the Oscar for that alone.
@Lampritch6 ай бұрын
You can also see Edward's torn feelings at 3:09. He's come, albeit willingly, to the one person he really wants to see, expectng to hear her reproach him and to stammer out an apology, only to hear her present the offer of a parish which (next to her) he craves most. Like Willoughby, he'll have the situation in life he desires but not the person.
@12classics393 ай бұрын
For a solid 2 minutes, not a single movement from the camera. Just a still focus on two phenomenal actors, letting them do their thing.
@robertwatford74252 жыл бұрын
You have to admire the sheer, steel, nuts of Ang Lee to do a scene that is so pivotal as a two minute master shot without cut-aways or close-ups and the talent of the two leads to be able to carry off the pacing and convey so much energy by barely moving and almost whispering. A Masterclass in filmmaking from one of my favorite films.
@skyciele Жыл бұрын
why does he do that though
@lisakaz35 Жыл бұрын
I like how Grant oddly taps his foot. Not sure it it's to evoke a nervous tick or pacing in his lines (or both).
@charmedprince Жыл бұрын
@@lisakaz35it's just Hugh Grant being Hugh Grant imo😂 he does that weird walk a lot in other movies
@sophiat82507 ай бұрын
literally sought out the video to make this exact comment
@jollybadger2275 жыл бұрын
You can hear her heart breaking when she says "you will always have it."
@jingarosm2 жыл бұрын
At 02:46, it's even more obvious "That is more important than ...anything else"
@thejessifar46193 жыл бұрын
Something about this situation I loved that's only mentioned in the book is that, though the parish provided a living for Edward, it was a very small amount and not enough for a couple to live on. But when Edward was engaged to Elinor, his sister (Fanny, Elinor's sister-in-law) convinced their mother to give them a small fortune rather than cut him off entirely. Considering that Elinor was the most polite out of all the Dashwoods to her when she arrived at the beginning of the story, and was willing to marry Edward despite lack of fortune, Elinor gained Fanny's approval. It showed more character depth for Fanny, and more conflict resolution.
@kahkah19863 жыл бұрын
Plus, she did really care about Edward. He is her favorite brother. She was protecting him at the beginning from Elinor, because she assumed Elinor was after the money when they were penniless, and she is probably still thinking of Edward at the end, she doesn't want him to be poor.
@harringt1003 жыл бұрын
@@kahkah1986 Would have shown more genunine character for Fanny to persuade John to finally honor his promise to the late Mr. Dashwood. But I guess some intervention is better than none.
@kahkah19863 жыл бұрын
@@harringt100 Yeah, but like I said, she really doesn't care about the Dashwoods, she doesn't care about Elinor, just Edward. She did it for Edward, not Elinor. And it isn't her money in the way the Norland/ Dashwood inheritance is now her money, she's fine with getting Mrs Ferrars to deal with the problem her initial selfishness created.
@harringt1003 жыл бұрын
@@kahkah1986 That's why I say it would have shown more character development to have John help them. It's not an actual sacrifice of hers to persuade Mrs. Ferrars to do (a little bit) right by Edward.
@jmarie99973 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I believe Fanny's main motive was to keep Robert and Lucy from getting any more money from their mother. It's must have seemed ironic that Robert was rewarded with an inheritance then ended up marrying the woman Edward was disinherited for.
@serenaqiang63539 жыл бұрын
One of the most touching scenes in the movie. Heartbreaking and heart-warming.
@Lanallaby9 жыл бұрын
***** I know for some reason this is one of my favourite scenes! Such compassion for each other
@hl-nz3go2 жыл бұрын
Can't imagine such generosity nowadays. Kindness is often sadly mistaken for foolishness.
@marxjenn1 Жыл бұрын
As is sacrifice
@littlesongbird110 ай бұрын
Yes but Colonel Brandon was punished by his family for wanting to follow his heart so I no doubt he felt bad for Edward.
@carlotta4th9 ай бұрын
Keep in mind every protagonist in Jane Austen stories is still *way* better off than everyone else even when they're 'destitute.' But millionaires are still kind to their friends--it's just that ordinary people aren't caught up in those social circles.
@elle_na6194 жыл бұрын
I like this movie better than the book simply because of Emma Thompson portrayal of Elinor is astonishing, the ending scene when Edward proposed to her and she finally break down in tears hit me hard in the feels, made me cried with her too 😢 I even like this more than any Pride & Prejudice adaptations Although for the book I like P&P better than S&S
@dzonbrodi514 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's the best straight adaptation of any Austen novel by far, and one of those rare occasions when the film is better than the book (another being The Godfather). The epynomic opposition that works so well in the book of P&P of pitting Darcy against Elizabeth doesn't work so well with Elinor and Marianne as the characters are far less well developed as real people, and are palpably metaphorical polarities; Elinor is a bit too saintly and pragmatic, and Marianne is a bit too tiresome and affected. By contrast Emma Thompson and Kate Winslet are both charming in different ways, and the casting is perfectly judged in other characters. Hugh Grant is just right as the well meaning but easily manipulated Edward, Greg Wise exerts exactly the right kind of vacuously plausible charisma, Elizabeth Spriggs is vulgar and annoying when she needs to be, but also patently good-hearted, Imogen Stubbs is on the ball as the scheming and silly Lucy, Alan Rickman is entirely believable as the man whose kindness and dependability make him a good romantic fallback and Hugh Laurie steals every scene he is in.
@jwyatt6316 ай бұрын
I read somewhere that Emma Thompson wrote and revised the screenplay over a period of about five years. The screenplay was good enough to win the Oscar for Best Screenplay Based on Material Previously Produced or Published.
@tipyourwaiter7 жыл бұрын
"Your friendship has been the most important of my life." "You will always have it." The subtext! Such great writing and acting.
@lukasmiller4864 жыл бұрын
I would have said "It is Lucy's friendship that must be most important to you now."
@12classics39 Жыл бұрын
Indeed. The only way they can admit their love in this impossible situation.
@nettyabbott54125 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Love Emma Thompson .no other actress can outdo her nor a kinder person would we ever know. 🦋💕
@7BD2732 жыл бұрын
2:01 love the subtle foot tap of Edward's after Elinor says the Colonel is the kindest and best of men.
@Roguefem762 жыл бұрын
I suspect he was wondering if Elinor was romantically involved with Colonel Brandon, and to him her answer seemed like confirmation.
@joyfairclough46862 жыл бұрын
That flinch she makes at 3:06 is heartbreaking and my favourite bit of acting in the whole film. It's such a tiny moment but so enormous.
@jmarie99973 жыл бұрын
We watched this in the theater. The tension was so great, we didn't know whether to laugh, cry, or scream, "Somebody do something!"
@sweetnoriah6 жыл бұрын
Brandon was genius...Lucy didn't want a simple clergyman..she wanted money. and was proved right.
@rayzhong85426 жыл бұрын
sweetnoriah What makes him a genius? Do you mean that he offers Edward his parish to test if Lucy is sincere?
@jdkloosterman93796 жыл бұрын
I believe that's Sweetnoriah's point, yes, that he gives the parish to see if Lucy will desert a poor working man. I don't buy it, though. Lucy would be if anything quicker to drop a penniless man with no job than she would a steadily employed clergyman. Brandon didn't know Edward--or Lucy. He just recognized that they were in a situation like what he'd been in, and he wanted to help.
@lisakaz353 жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder if Brandon had any idea that Elinor was interested in Edward.
@harringt1003 жыл бұрын
@@lisakaz35 I don't think so. The only reason he would have to suspect that is Mrs. Jennings's jokes and he probably regarded those as nonsense. And if he had thought she was, it seems uncharacteristically inconsiderate of him to make her meet with Edward like this.
@jmarie99973 жыл бұрын
@@jdkloosterman9379 yes, Brandon's motive was to assist a man who was being unjustly treated. He believed Edward was truly attached to Lucy, and wanted to help him.
@user-jv5qi6ir8g Жыл бұрын
Как она любит! И как старается перевести это чувство в дружбу,чтобы видет его....и скрывает от всех своё страдание! Игра актёров прекрасна.
@twelfthlady8472 жыл бұрын
I swear if you listen closely it sounds like she says "Dude, please sit down." 😆
@tuoedisny8 жыл бұрын
I like that she wears the same dress as back then. And that woman in the picture between them...
@Ceares3 жыл бұрын
One of my absolute favorite movies and I rewatch the 30 minutes over and over. I don't know what makes me happier, how very happy Elinor and Edward will be or how very miserable the Ferrars will be with Lucy married to Robert.
@Lampritch6 ай бұрын
In the book, they're all happy with Lucy -- who strives to charm all of them, however insincerely, and mostly succeeds. One of them, actually.
@zhannageskin330410 ай бұрын
Wonderful movie and talented actors!!!!
@Evi19Black2 жыл бұрын
I am so glad that eduard got his dream At the beginning he said that he desires this life
@snow25556 жыл бұрын
Jane Austen might not be around for a very long time indeed but she still gives me life :*)
@serenaqiang63539 жыл бұрын
I also like the way you have the subtitle to such well-written script!
@Blue8spiral6 жыл бұрын
Wow, I almost cried watching that.
@lotstodo2 жыл бұрын
She plays his love interest in this movie then his older sister in Love Actually.
@majoragooden71425 жыл бұрын
My God. I feel you, Elinor
@gypsygirltarot24513 жыл бұрын
this is true love that she is so selfless
@LovelyPeach405 жыл бұрын
Love this movie most men didnt look at clothes or body but your mind. Sweet
@terencehennegan14392 жыл бұрын
1:56...being given a parish one would think it would bring a great sense of joy and satisfaction, but when she responds to (colonel Brandon must be a man of great worth and respectability ) yes he is the kindest and best of men, it dampens his satisfaction as if it means nothing to what his heart truly desires. What was in his head when he left that room, the mind boggles, not a clue in sight.
@austenmemes89015 жыл бұрын
amazing scene!
@pershop49503 жыл бұрын
She said she is a friend and he said her friendship was important to him. Both of these two people did not confess anything to the other.
@letitbeenow3 жыл бұрын
Subtext, darling.
@jennifermusgrove67118 жыл бұрын
While the subtitles were nice, they were not word-for-word. And perhaps that the words that were omitted didn't really change the meaning, I thought the purpose of subtitles were to have everything that is said in a readable format....
@rowanaforrest97922 жыл бұрын
This was badly subtitled. It is supposed to be work-for-word. Many words and phrases are missing. This is one of my favorite movies so I've watched it a lot and don't need the subtitles, but since I couldn't get rid of them, I noticed the poor quality.
@dianedenham52596 ай бұрын
Yes, I came looking for a comment addressing the subtitles, so many missing words and phrases. 🤔
@gunnelaxelsson32262 жыл бұрын
My god it has to have been so uncomfortable to sit on such low chairs all the time. 😂 I'm glad we changed that with time.
@teddy97707 жыл бұрын
The dresses back then were terribly unflattering.
@Lanallaby7 жыл бұрын
lool i have to agree!
@AnnaMarianne7 жыл бұрын
Teddy 97 But the dresses of this period seem to have been the only comfortable clothes women got to wear after the Middle Ages! I'd certainly rather wear these than anything before or after.
@teresarivasugaz23133 жыл бұрын
NO! Blessed be the Empire silhouette, the only dresses that look good on me are the ones with really high waists, I'd thrived in the Regency era, fashion-wise 😭
@katherinegraham38038 ай бұрын
I can't help but think they look very elegant from the front and undeniably goofy from the back. And I'd still take them over the fashion that came in the following decades.
@Lampritch6 ай бұрын
@@katherinegraham3803 Better than low-rise jeans, for sure
@alisonfaulkner4711 ай бұрын
I always saw more chemistry with her and Brandon. Not much with these 2. Odd I guess but heck I was team Aiden on SATC too.
@katherinegraham38038 ай бұрын
I see it too. They're both shown as principled and emotionally reserved people who still feel deeply, although they may not always show it. In a different world, I can imagine the characters being very happy together.
@karmahadid4 жыл бұрын
At least he kept his promise to lucy to marry her
@bell-xk5dd Жыл бұрын
Is it fair that he should keep his promise whereas Lucy can break hers?
@katherinegraham38038 ай бұрын
@@bell-xk5dd No, it's not fair, but it did work out for him in the end. Keeping his promise to Lucy is what caused his family to disinherit him. The fact that his family disinherited him is why Lucy dumped him for his brother. The fact that Lucy dumped him for his brother is what allowed Edward to marry Elinor.
@tal-ux8fu5he6l2 жыл бұрын
מראה לו שהיא סולחת לו על כל דבר, ויש פה רק ידידות, הבטחה חשובה אם רוצים לקיים אותה, ולא כשמשהו הישתנה
@lukasmiller486 Жыл бұрын
“Your friendship has been the most important of my life.” If I were Eleanor, I would have said “It is Lucy’s friendship that must be most important to you now, Edward.”
@falconeshield10 ай бұрын
People are selfish. She didn't want to let go of the one thing (in her mind) she shared with him
@Lampritch6 ай бұрын
But she didn't...
@user-tp3yb3dz6y2 ай бұрын
It has subtitles how do I get ride of them
@shinjineesen4002 жыл бұрын
I don't think Edward Ferrars deserves Elinor Dashwood. I just read a fanfiction where she rejects his proposal after hisvsecret fiancee Lucy Steele marries his brother Robert. Elinor has good friends - notably Sir John Middleton and his mother in law Mrs Jennings - who have assisted her mother and her. She comes to realize that Edward Ferrars, a man who has been secretly engaged to a worthless female, is not the best match she could make. She is not desperate enough to take him. Furthermore, she has grown to despise the Ferrars family including Fanny Dashwood nee Ferrars The fanfiction brings together different characters from different Austen novels. It is incomplete and we don't know who the Dashwood sisters will marry.
@Lampritch6 ай бұрын
If you want to get into that, you could construe a situation where Elinor becomes entangled with Mr. Palmer (Mrs. Jennings' stiff son-in-law, hilariously portrayed by Hugh Laurie in the film); he's contemptuous of his wife but in the one scene when Charlotte's not there to annoy him, he drops his caustic demeanour and is kind to Elinor, endeavouring to arrange the best doctor he knows to help her sister. It's also not hard to imagine Willoughby haunting Marianne -- as Mrs. Brandon, a more enticing target than ever. Then again, Jane Austen was not concerned about the royalties from sequels.
@susampson2782 жыл бұрын
Quality of audio is terrible
@cheryls.52519 жыл бұрын
The whole movie please
@karengerber83902 жыл бұрын
@ Cheryl S The entire movie is currently available, on KZfaq. 08:56, CDT; Wednesday 20 July 2022
@nguyenlamtue18683 жыл бұрын
awwhh this is so depressing.... that look on his face damn.......
@irenescott3108 Жыл бұрын
I have a question relating to the offer from col. Brandon. Latter in the book after Edward proposes to Elinor he goes to visit col. Brandon about the living yet Jane Austen writes that Edward had been angry about the colonel’s offer. I’d like to know why he was angry. Do you know why?
@gillianstapleton77412 ай бұрын
I think it's because he assumes, at this point in the story, that Colonel Brandon is interested in Elinor. Only later does he realise that his annoyance is misplaced.
@themermaidstale50082 жыл бұрын
If Edward Faris looks uncomfortable most of the time, it must be due to those clothes; they are gawd awful! They don’t fit him. See how it puckers in the back above his shoulders.
@lucibonannevinte9200 Жыл бұрын
Eles se casam no final? Não lembro
@andreluischavescamaraocama46932 жыл бұрын
Um diálogo tão feroz presente no filme razão e sensibilidade... Ang Lee reduz á um monólogo de teatro... Tirando toda a emoção de uma cena caso fosse dirigido por James Ivory, de Retorno á Howards End... Nossa, levaria o espectador ás lágrimas!😄. Mais na mão de Ang Lee, diluiu- se em água com açúcar!
@cat_pb2 жыл бұрын
Tenho de discordar, Ang Lee fez um trabalho maravilhoso!
@andreluischavescamaraocama46932 жыл бұрын
@@cat_pb eu já achei caricato,a Direção dele neste Razão e Sensibilidade. O que salvou o filme foi o roteiro de Emma Thompson e lógico, as atuações do contidas no filme. Mais, essa é a minha opinião!😄. Até a próxima!
@rocko02144 жыл бұрын
The cast of this is outstanding and the performances are as well, still it bugs me a little that everyone is so much older than the characters in the book. I know, i'm a d!ck, but this is the internet.
@rumblefish92 жыл бұрын
That was intentional. The director and producers thought that audiences might not relate if their ages were younger considering Elinor is often seen and referred to as a "spinster"
@Lampritch6 ай бұрын
No, you're not being a d... Emma Thompson was good, but looks a bit too much like Edward's big sister; and I understand that literary societies protested against the casting of Hugh Grant as Edward, someone described in the book as "not handsome". A better choice for Edward might have been Steve Huison, the fellow who played the utterly insecure "Lumper" in "The Full Monty". That wouldn't have been good for the box office, though.
@bonniebester6062 жыл бұрын
Help me Lord Jesus...Deliver me from these Cruel Corrupt People who would see me utterly Destroyed! 😩