it was the right of John and his wife to take up residence uponin heritance, but (and this was not made explicitin the novel (because it would have been well known at the time)) it was a breach of the elder Mrs Dashwood's time of mourning. That was the real source of the offence, just turning up without notice was salt in the wound.
@ArnellaHobler Жыл бұрын
That is true!
@brucealanwilson41216 ай бұрын
Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
@riverAmazonNZ9 ай бұрын
I heard someone say that Brandon does make a good husband for Marianne if you look a bit closer. Marianne says she wants a man who feels deeply and does dashing romantic deeds. Brandon feels deeply over his lost love and even fought a duel, and raced out in the storm to fetch Marianne’s mother. Willoughby talks a good game but his deeds are nothing but self indulgent. Brandon backs up his feelings with his actions. He is actually the deep feeling man of dramatic deeds, he just doesn’t talk about it. He lives it.
@ArnellaHobler9 ай бұрын
That is a very good point. It also shows how perceptive Jane Austen was about human nature; how when we are young and naïve we are easily charmed by words - but as we grow and mature we learn that actions speak louder than words. Thank you for sharing your thoughts! 😊
@disharibiswas17492 жыл бұрын
I have always suspected that colonel Brandon was more passionate and expressive like Marianne before tragedy of love caught him.His conversation with Eleanor expresses such suppressed qualities despite his gloomy presentation.So it is possible that he will gradually regain his former cheerful nature from Marianne’s proximity and encouragement and in time will be a perfect match for her.
@ArnellaHobler2 жыл бұрын
I didn't get that impression while reading, but I do like the thought of that. It certainly feels less tragic that way!
@annabanana72986 ай бұрын
Certainly Alan Rickman chose to play him that way! He practically vibrated with sensibility repressed!
@hlodovikaGrabn10 ай бұрын
Took me 25 years of a very toxic Willoughby before before I was free and, luckily, found a colonel Brandon. Marianne was so lucky to have avoided a total destruction on every level possible.
@ArnellaHobler10 ай бұрын
You are quite right, she really did dodge a bullet! And I'm happy to hear that you freed yourself and found happiness with a good partner 🥰
@lenoraGrayce10 ай бұрын
I really appreciate your analysis of this, my 2nd favorite Austen novel, especially what you said about Willoughby. Definitely more of a flawed antagonist, than a hand-twisting villian. However, I respectfully disagree about your assessment of Colonel Brandon’s reserved personality. I feel that at one time he was as passionate and spontaneous as Marianne herself. In fact, he had originally planned to run off and elope with his first love, Eliza, until fate and his family destroyed that plan. And after the tragedy of losing her, I feel, is when he becomes broken hearted, forlorn and reserved. And I did not get the impression that he fell in love with Marianne because of her age or her likeliness to Eliza, but because of her openness and spirited attitude. I feel that sparked in him the life he used to feel with Eliza. And yes, even though personality-wise, Brandon and Elinor would have been a good match…the heart wants what it wants and we’ve all heard the old adage that “Opposites attract”. Yes, the age difference is shocking to our modern sensibilities, but somewhat common for the time this was written.
@ArnellaHobler10 ай бұрын
You do make a good point! It makes sense that Brandon would have been more passionate and spontaneous in his youth, which then makes him more drawn to Marianne than Elinor. Thank you for sharing your thoughts!
@rebeckatornkvist885610 ай бұрын
I’m reading this novel for school and your videos have been so helpful! I was quite lost, and you really managed to cleared it up. You can tell that you put a lot off effort into this and it really deserves a lot of credit!
@ArnellaHobler10 ай бұрын
Thank you! I'm glad it was helpful! 🥰
@Evastories6089 ай бұрын
You study that at school??
@Pepperjack19862 жыл бұрын
You know, I feel like there are some parallels between Colonel Brandon's and Marianne's developing relationship and Louisa's and Captain Benwick's relationship in Persuasion. Brandon and Benwick both loved and lost a lover who died and are now considered gloomy by others (difference being the length of time between losing their lover and falling in love again). They both fall in love with high-spirited much younger women who are initially deeply infatuated with another man. These women end up drawing them out of their gloom and making them feel hope for the future for the first time. Louisa and Marianne are both impetuous women who wear their hearts on their sleeves and who stubbornly refuse to listen to reason, causing both a great amount of harm, physical harm for Louisa by jumping off the stairs in Lyme and emotional harm that leads to physical harm for Marianne by ignoring Elinor's well-founded concern over her and Willoughby's behavior. Both women end up recovering from lengthy illnesses with these Byronic men at their side helping them heal, coming to care for them in time. Also, people take note of the camaraderie between Anne Elliott and Benwick (bonding over poetry and lost love), creating a short-lived romantic false lead trope, similarly to Elinor's camaraderie with Brandon creating the same.
@ArnellaHobler2 жыл бұрын
Oh this a really good observation, so spot on! And I 100% agree. It makes me wonder whether Jane Austen perhaps knew a couple in real life who met and fell in love that way, and she found their story so inspiring that she paid homage to them in her books. It would be a very sweet thing if that were the case!
@maryselstead75542 ай бұрын
Wow! Great analysis and comparison. I’ve never considered the similarities in those two couples! My two favorite Austen books…❤
@MartinDSmith2 жыл бұрын
Lovely treatment of the novel!Elinor is a very strong character,rather like Anne from Persuasion and in that sense maybe you are right about Brandon being a better fit as he resembles to some extent Captain Wentworth.😃
@ArnellaHobler2 жыл бұрын
Oh thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it :) and that's a good point, actually. I enjoy comparing Jane Austen's characters with one another as, sometimes, I feel like they could be friends if they had met in the same story. Anne and Elinor are a good example of that!
@LusiaEyre Жыл бұрын
I think it would've been important to highlight the Dashwood ladies' circumstances by pointing out that they did not find their new cottage but it was offered to them. Before Mrs Dashwood's distant cousin Sir John Middleton reached out and offered them a cottage on his estate at a very good rate, they were having difficulties finding anything suitable for their wants, needs, and budget. And Fanny's remarks about Edward's marriage prospects only made the decision easier for Mrs Dashwood as she was reluctant to move so far away before.
@ArnellaHobler Жыл бұрын
It is a good detail, but I had to be a little frugal with some things (sadly) to save time. It's always tricky with summaries which details to keep and which to cut, while still doing the story justice.
@cminmd00419 ай бұрын
I think Dashwood is completely on board for cutting out his half sisters. That's why he keeps talking to Mrs Dashwood instead of actually DOING anything for them. He could have just written the check, but he wanted to be talked out of doing anything which is why he kept bringing what he should do up to Fanny. Fanny suggests one thing and instead of doing that he goes back and talks to her again where she LOWERS her suggestion. He keeps repeating the process until she matches what he wants to give them. But of course the real villain is the dead husband who like Mr Bennett doesn't prepare for his death at all.
@ArnellaHobler9 ай бұрын
You make a good point there! I think the struggle he had might be because of his promise to his father. He did not want to go back on his word, and was therefore looking for an "out" so to speak.
@elisa46206 ай бұрын
I might not remember correctly but I think in the novel it explains why Mr Dashwood (the girls father) coudn't do more for the girls. That is also probably why he had his son promise (a very serious thing back then) to help them.
@annabanana72986 ай бұрын
I agree! He died quickly after inheriting, before he could make arrangements for his second family. @@elisa4620
@isabelladias7872 жыл бұрын
Love these videos. I listen to them like a podcast, and enjoy them thoroughly. ☺
@ArnellaHobler2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! ☺ I do that with longer videos as well, having them in the background while cooking or cleaning is quite nice!
@alfredosolari75977 ай бұрын
Thank you very much indeed for your invaluable summary and analysis of this beautiful novel.
@ArnellaHobler7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed it 😊
@mercycunningham28136 ай бұрын
I love your analys but I believe you realy underestimate Cornel Brandon. He is in fact the only Austen hero I would marry. If you take a closer look, except from maybe beeing a bit shy with women he hasn't any big flaws. He certainly isn't a lady's man or a gambler like Mr Wickham. He is most likely not in active military duty like Captain Wentworth since he inherited the estate and is the male heir. So he won't get killed in a war. Bonus Brandon has an estate unlike a certain Mr. Ferris. It's not as good as Mr. Darcy or Mr. Bingley but Brandon is not as hard to please as Darcy nor as easy to distract as a Mr. Bingley. No, Brandon knows how to build wealth and is a good friend. Now does he match Marianne? I believe yes. Brandon followed his heart whenever he could. He distanced himself from his Family when they broke him and Eliza up and joined the military. He searched for his list love when he heard what happend to her and didn't abandon her nor her child. And he actually duelled Willoughby. That's a passionate man on my books. He isn't over sensetive and dramatic like Marianne but that's a good thing. Add to that that the Cornel is the only one (other than her family) who is really interested in Mariannes music and you got a good fit.
@ArnellaHobler6 ай бұрын
I think Jane did a good job justifying the match at the end of the book, where she explains that Marianne did in time grow to love Brandon with as much passion as she had once loved Willoughby. That they were - as you say - a good fit in the end. I suppose it's just his previous trauma that has tempered him a bit and made him more reserved.
@barbaraludwiczak67982 ай бұрын
Yes! Brandon might be the most romantic of all Austen's men: falling in love at the early age, trying to elope with his young beloved to Scotland, removing himself so that his beloved could be happy with his brother, going on a far journey, coming back only to find his beloved dying, raising her love-child despite what 'people might think', falling in love with Marianne and silently suffering watching her disastrous relationship with Willoughby, fighting a duel - these are all elements of romantic hero. However, Jane Austen uses irony here because this most romantic hero is a) old bachelor, b) still in need of a flanel waistcoat But there is something more here - Brandon would not be a great match for an inexperienced 16 years old, that's very true. However, he becomes good for Marienne after her horrible love story with Willoughby. In that way they are each other's second attachments. So at the end of the novel, they are more equal - both past their first passions, and horrible heartbreaks. And the last thing - Marianne is said to resemble her mother. And just like her mother she marries a man that is much older than her. As for Willoughby - he might talk 'romantic', but marries for money.
@Scary_asmr10111 ай бұрын
Very nicely told and explained.
@ArnellaHobler11 ай бұрын
Thank you! 😊
@fennelwink4 ай бұрын
I always thought Colonel Brandon and Elinor made a much better couple. I was baffled that it didnt go that way. Glad I'm not the only one.
@ChelseaJanzen Жыл бұрын
Thank you for a lovely summary video!
@ArnellaHobler Жыл бұрын
Thank you too! 😊
@conradjane86598 ай бұрын
Fantastic summary and analysis, delivered with a fitting aesthetic! You've earned my subscription. Cheers.
@ArnellaHobler8 ай бұрын
Thank you! 🥰
@adrianaalba4404 ай бұрын
I enjoyed this video 🫶🏻
@brucealanwilson41216 ай бұрын
I have sometimes thought that Col. Brandon would gave been a better match for Mother Dashwood. They were closer in age.
@ArnellaHobler6 ай бұрын
Sadly, women of her age (as in not being able to get pregnant anymore) weren't as desired back then. Would have been far more likely today, though!
@brucealanwilson41216 ай бұрын
@@ArnellaHobler Doesn't Col. Brandon have nephews to inherit? Wouldn't he prefer a nice sensible older woman rather than some silly little chit? And she was only 40. That isn't too old to have a kid. My grandmother had her last one when she was slmost 50.
@AllieBee003 ай бұрын
@@brucealanwilson4121but you have to look at it in the lenses of this time, sure he had a nephew but it is almost always preferred your own children inherit your work and estate, and yes older women can have children but lack of modern medicine makes things risky and difficult. It’s a whole lot easier to have a 20 year old pop 5 kids than the 40 year old.
@LusiaEyre Жыл бұрын
Eliza Williams wasn't 14 when Willoughby got her pregnant. She was around Marianne's age. Her mother died 14 years prior and she was 3 years old then. At 14 she was removed from school and placed in a household of a woman who looked after a few girls of similar age. She was there 2 years before going to Bath with a friend she met there.
@ArnellaHobler Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the correction! I missed that somehow when making my notes!
@garyfranck1753 Жыл бұрын
you forgot Hugh Laurie as Mr. Palmer, he was good
@ArnellaHobler Жыл бұрын
You are correct! Mr Palmer is a tricky one to play but he was indeed good!
@garnetmountain516311 ай бұрын
How old was Emma Thompson when she portrayed the 19 year old Lizzy and your thoughts on video portrayals of this guy's favorite Jane Austin's book. Mine is the 2008 bbc version.
@ArnellaHobler11 ай бұрын
I'm still yet to watch the 2008 version actually! But I've had a quick look at the cast and it looks promising, so I'm fairly certain I will like it! And Emma Thompson was apparently 36 years old in Sense & Sensibility, whereas Kate Winslet was 19.
@garnetmountain516311 ай бұрын
Mixed up my character, sorry
@ziegunerweiser6 ай бұрын
evidence that romance is still alive and well in this day and age
@magorzataniewiadomska59142 жыл бұрын
Charming as usually. I have been listening with much interest, however, this Austen's novel is my least favourite.
@ArnellaHobler2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it, even though it's your least favourite! That's what I love about Jane Austen novels, they're all high-quality books but it's subjective which ones we enjoy the most :)
@briteddy97592 ай бұрын
Your take on the relationship between Marianne and Brandon aligns with mine. I am now a grandmother with a granddaughter Marianne’s age. I would be flying mad if a man in his mid thirties had design on my 16 year old granddaughter. It is sick and disturbing (disgusting)! I am not against bigger age differences in a relationship, but not when one of them is a teenager. That is not healthy. Brandon should have waited until Marianne was at least 20 before pursuing her. You and I are probably among the minority in our view on Marianne and Brandon. It seems like most think it is so romantic and also normal in that era. Maybe! You are also astute in your thoughts on whether Marianne would be happy in the long run. She would mature and settle down, but there could very well be a lingering desire fore something more…
@ArnellaHobler2 ай бұрын
It's always nice to hear someone agree with you! I share your opinion that Brandon should have waited a few more years, especially since she acted rather immaturely around him from the start (which made her young age all the more clear). Thank you for sharing your thoughts!
@wandamercer69649 ай бұрын
When you get older, you will appreciate Persuasion more.
@Evastories6089 ай бұрын
I don't understand. If Marianne did not love Brandon why did she marry him? Better alone than with a man who can't give you what you want.
@ArnellaHobler9 ай бұрын
From a modern day perspective - yes. But the setting for the novel is the 1790s, meaning there was no way for Marianne to support herself financially. Also, she did grow to love Brandon, even if it wasn't that instant infatuation/passion she had felt for Willoughby.
@Evastories6089 ай бұрын
@@ArnellaHobler I know that but still..... A little dessapointing. I much prefer the movie version where they fall for each other before marriage.
@ArnellaHobler9 ай бұрын
@@Evastories608 That's true, I have a soft spot for the movie version as well (no surprises there) 🥰
@tymanung6382 Жыл бұрын
Great analysis of the story, but none of the real music that Jane Austen herself played. KZfaq has at least 3 music + song videos of performances of music + songs in Jane A usten + family s music books collection. The late 1800s background music is absolutely NOT accurate. But this is perhaps now unchangeabl--- wrong decade, wrong composer, wrong country. Jane Austin could neither hear nor play this music.
@ArnellaHobler Жыл бұрын
I feel like I should explain that it was never my intention to have period-accurate music. I choose music for my videos based on ambiance (as well as it being easy on the ears). I can't use whatever I want, sadly, as I'm limited to what KZfaq has a license for in the audio library in order to avoid copyright claims. I do appreciate your suggestion though!