Well done Minisi. Your patience is your weapon, she is starting to crack. That is why she is getting annoyed

These lawyers wants acquittal on identity not the issue of Whether there were no intruders. The strategy is on identity as I see it. The problem with the version that there were no intruders is that you must prove, who in the house killed Senzo. So better cast doubt on identity

Am not a lawyer but the interactions in between the judge and the defense feel like is not proper because that is giving the witness credit...such interactions need to be held close door...

Advocate Nxumalo 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥👌❤

The judge is too far ahead of himself. The counsel can't say there were no intruders in the house, because that's not their space. Theirs is to prove that their clients were not there.

You can hear from her testimony that she is telling lies and she is derespectful because she knwos who killed Senzo

I just wish Mshololo doesn't lose focus. She must not forget to ask this question. Did intruders finally manage to get what they went there for. The money and cell phones.

The judge shall bring JUSTICE fo Senzo Meyiwa's family inshAllah

Then the whole case changed to a lecture 😂😂😂

That judge must be the chief justice of South Africa for real

If Mthoko slept over at Marlberton a day before the incident,how were sleeping arrangements? Zandi claims the last time she saw longwe before the incident was a day before then my question is,why did Senzo had to introduce Longwe to Mthokozisi coz they obviously saw each other a day before.Mthokozisi said that was his first time seeing Longwe but he slpet at Marlberton the same place Longwe was with Zandi a day before

Your questions sir 👌 💯 you know what you doing

Baloyi is poisoning this case he must step aside like the judge Maomela or wat ever

Zandi shouldn't be asking the lawyers to slow down their pace or speak louder because she has a Zulu interpreter who's meant to translate what the lawyer is saying to her from English to Zulu, why does she need the lawyer to speak louder cause from my basic understanding of the need of an interpreter is to translate a language you do not understand or extremely basic in. So they must speak louder for you to understand what exactly, awusizwa nje isingisi? I think given that she clearly understands the lawyers in English, the interpretation is just used to buy extra time for her to process the questions from the lawyers and her answers before they are translated to her in Zulu.

Only Teffo did drop bombshells when coming to no intruders entered the house. His sources are wow

Listening to the judge I find it that he is somehow making it difficult for the counsels to cross examine accordingly. I see they have different approaches to this matter. May they be allowed to approach it from different angles. Definately each of them know where they are leading the court to at the end

How do you push a person towards a door pointing a gun, theres no such,the reasonableman approach would be to run ,hide ,unless is someone you know & you trying to reason with them to put the gun away.

The judge is on point

All the accussed are going to be acquitted, the descriptions are contradictory from one witness to the other.

Mr objection is annoying me

The judge doesn't buy the story of the intruders and was silently praying for the defence team to say it.They kind of disappointed him😂😊

I still ask! Why did Mthoko call Senzos brother and told him that Zenzo has been shot by mistake? And is the state going to pay these poor guys for their time in Prison

This adv hit the nail on the head. He has actually done his homework. Congratulations adv for bringing to light the hidden fact that even puzzled the judge.

Well done advocate for reading those text messages i loved the part which says i will be free from him it was premeditated murder for senzo

So Baloyi is no longer a prosecutor he's now Zandi's advocate 😢😢😢

The judge just guided these defense Lawyers on how argue their case. This man has got no patience for this time waisting, he wants to finish this case as soon as possible

Mara how can you push someone having a gun in his hand,cause they were supposed to get scared it's confusing

I wish teffo could come back, because he always said "I put it to you that there were no intruders..."

At the same time the judge is assisting the other's lawyers to adjust their line of questioning...

The judge is just about causing confusion. The line of question by the two previous guys is around identifying their clients as those intruders. There could have been intruders but failure to positively link the accused to those exonerates their clients. Then it becomes a case of mistaken identity - aaii!!

This judge is on point

This judge is limiting the cross examination..he already has a predetermined judgement..very astonishing

I understand the defenses' argument. All they are saying is, if there were intruders, it was not their clients. This is probably easier to argue than proving there were no intruders at all

what can we call this lecture now to our learned friends by the judge

Liar liar liar 😢 but you said you want justice for Senzo. Iqiniso liyamkhulula umuntu cc

Now it's getting interesting

Shortage of correct Court interpretation "...to get rid of him by SMS" ... "Ukumsusa nge SMS" not "uiuhlukana naye nge SMS as interprer says Someone must assist there The Interpreter's Post is clearly Vacant.... A temporary interprer could be employed...

Is it me or the interpreter has improved? 😂😂😂

Dankie Advocate

the case is closed according to me coz Zandile has vindicated suspect #2 coz she says she doesn't want to implicate him.

Zandi, give the description of what you saw, not what you think the lawyer is implying. how did you get this far with this manner of answering questions in a court room?

The judge is on point just like Maumela, the defense for the accused are just incompetent, they are scoring their own goals 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂, it's so embarrassing shame 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Nam kmele ngizwe...Danki Sisterz🔥

Can we make sure that Afri forum takes this Senzo case for private prosecution. please Mzansi

full respect for judge 🎉🎉❤❤

POP very correct medical term which means plater of paris

Love this judge ❤

The incompetence of these lawyers was exposed... Arguing about text messages about what?

In all the drama that is happening in court by Zandile, I have noticed that the judge is too soft when it comes to Zandile , she is doing as she pleases in court, when a witness have chose to speak isizulu or what ever language, he must stick to it till he or she finish testimony for the sake of the record but Zandile mixes now and again and the judge is keeping quiet not reprimanding her. Even rudeness not clarifying to her that she is in witness box is there to answer questions not to ask questions but sometimes she is the one asking questions. Am watching this judge true

When the judge says " so called intruders" yey.....

This judge is questionable to be honest..he is channelling the case in the direction of his predetermined judgement

Sanibonani ekhaya, Iya, remember that I stated that the judge dismissed adv. Ramosepele’s line of questioning wrongly, using an association fallacy, that the statement that Zandile made is correct because our police messes up statements. I even supported my argument by stating that we have successful prosecution in this country from police statements. But of importance was that I stated that if it was adv. Mnisi he would pushback from that objection and he will defend his statement. And we saw that. Again judge Ratha Mokgoatheng seem to not writing stuff down and that worries me a lot, why I am saying that judge Ratha’s almost sustained an objection that he himself was not arguing for. Vaseline’s objection is misguided because he is stating that the determination of the suspects will be made by the police. However, adv. Mnisi is categorically stating that no one was ever arrested meeting the description of Zandile. The judge then accussed adv.Mnisi for saying that the intruder will never be arrested. Family this is important, because it was the judge that unfairly stopped adv. Ramosepele’s line of questioning, because that statement was signed by Zandile and she agreed that it was read to her, now for a judge to believe Zandile’s statement with a fallacy is totally troubling. Adv. Ramoseple was trying to demonstrate that Zandile’s statements have a lot of descrepencies for her to be taken as a credible witness. If the state then quiry that, it was for them to prove that the police inserted what Zandile did not say in the statement, not adv.Ramosepele, or not to throw the police who did his/her job under the bus without any evidence. This part I was totally not happy about, because it is the compilation if these things that seem little that demonstrates to anyone including Vaseline that the witness is not credible, she changes statements over and over again.

Defense lawyers 2 and 3 questioning is so lousy

If they r innocent, why did they call Chico cs he is not related to senzo. That says a lot, which means someone close to Chico is involved.

Im so waiting for Mshololo....😊

Kahle Vaseline kahle Vaseline let the crocodile answer stop protecting her

Sacela abameli basifakele imbuzo Ku Zandi ay lezinto ababuzayo abasolwa after ukudubula Senzo babaleka ngani ngenyawo noma ngemoto?yini eyenza bangathathi ama4n nemali?yini eyenza kufike longwe bese kufika igebengu?longwe the Tym ephuma ebaleka y engadutshulwanga?khele engena ekameleni y enga4nelanga amaphoyisa?yini Lena eyaydina Senzo esefuna ukuhamba engavalelisile?isiphi isiszathu esenza kuhlanyelwe kuleyandlu?abasolwa Basho yini kunganyakazi muntu the Tym befuna ama4n?bamemeza bacela usizo komakhelwane?yini eyadala bathathe Senzo bamuse e hospital?bakufundela yini kuthi muntu mayelinele inxeba liyavalwa?bameli sacela imbuzo ay lento eyxoxa lapho indaba zamasobho lokhu niphinda phind into eyodwa sisfuna iqiniso pls

i don't understaand how Zandi identified the intruder.

Major closing today. Defense counsels for accused #1 to #3 do not contest the version told by those inside the house which says the intruders came in the house and shot Meyiwa.

My goodness this judge. I Stan. ❤

Manje uMnisi ufike eyophethen ihoodie?😂😅

PATIENCE IS KEY HERE...

Zandile is so disrespectful, and ulixoki... Archie Moroka awumphinde lapho.

Black mamba poked many holes

Adv Nxumalo❤️

The judge is protecting Zandi..allow the lawyers to ask what they want

I can work with this Judge, when you cross examine the witnesses you ought to weakens them on what you seem to be disagreeing, and conclude every statement or testimony that is seem to be incorrect by objecting in defense of the accused in every aspect of the feature elaborating the act of the crime.

This cross examination would be much shorter if the defence lawyers just ask did Zandi see their clients... and then we move.

Mina am failing to understand whether imthetho wenkantolo yini to give answers in a rude way...as far as I know this is a very professional place ever..idlula nephalamende

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Advocate Ramosepele , pound for pound, like a referee on his whistle and gloves on the hands ,he is putting it to Zandile

🤣🤣🤣🤣is it me or vele this advocate looks very funny at all angles……the defence approach this case with a narrow approach and this really might help their clients away but won’t help us get to the real killers of senzo and I’m so glad the judge has given them a free advice

Yoooo judge is schooling them

Plz bring back ADV teffo

The lawyer's are loosing the case they not fit enough 🤦

😢😢

Wait, Did the SMS just say, i'm failing to get rid of Senzo ?

The judge forgets that those lawyer are there to prove that their clients are not the ones who shot Senzo, so their line of questioning is relavent to prove. It might happen that they are found innocent which means the state has to arrest other people again

experience at play here now this case wont even take two years judge on point

It’s high time Senzo’s family and friends accept there won’t be any justice in this case since there’s someone very powerful being protected. I wasn’t surprised by the appointment of this judge

Mnisi🤟

So they have to be released

This judge wants no one bt Teffo 🙏🤞

Zandie is so Rude! 🚮

We need teffo hr

Zandi didn't even check her boyfriend(longer) after she went out. Instead she goes out to look for a neighbor and never even for once checked if Longwe was ok, her . Poor story telling skills.

This Baloi seems to object just for the sake of objecting. He is probably going to have problems during his cross examination.

Nxumalo😊❤😊

This judge is educating them

The second Intruder is said to have had a knife n he couldn't injure any one during the commotion, hayi bo!

Ziyakhala manje abadlalayo phandle guys plz

This judge is not taking no prisoners.

Impossible i agree with you my lord

There's no justice in South Africa I believe it's about time we make peace with that

Eyyyyyy Iyacabanga Iyacabanga iBlack Mamba🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

It is really funny..the judge already concludes that intruders shot Senzo??? Ruling out possibility of Senzo being killed by those who were in the house already..quite amaizing!!!!

Some questions though are useless honestly, no wonder this case is taking this long.

Why did the judge insist that Zandi must also hear Adv Nxumalo whereas she has a Zulu interpreter? The advocate said that he is audible to the interpreter, Mr Jonas?

The judge😭

The judge is simply saying that the defense counsel are loosing the case and that they should change tactics, HE IS ACTUALLY HELPING THE DEFENSE, I agree with him, so far nothing has been presented to help the accused

It’s crazy how She remembers everything before entering the house (even estimated timelines ) but everything about the house is a blur. I still remember clearly an incident I was involved in 2009 , I could still tell it like it occurred Last night because of how traumatic it was 🤣