My hope is that when SEPTA acquires the new Alstom LRVs to replace the 40+ year old K-Cars, that the PCCs the K-Cars replaced will still see service. Most of the track infrastructure in Center City is still intact so it would not take much to get said infrastructure up and running and allow the trolleys to be Philadelphia's equivalent to San Francisco's famous cable cars.

@@rwboa22 I agree but SEPTA’s management does not seem that interested in running trolleys instead of busses on surface routes. Part of the problem is Philadelphia car drivers don’t pay attention to proper parking and in many cases delayed many old trolley routes. It always was a problem on the Rt. 23 trolley line. In center city many times 2 or 3 trolleys would run right behind each other and then there would be a big gap in service till the next trolley. There also is the problem of where to store the old trolleys since many of the old trolley barns have been torn down and in the old space now bus only garages or the old spaces were sold off and the garage that serves those old trolley routes is not near by.

Ain’t gonna happen. The rich suburban community does not want the urban folk in their neighborhoods any more frequently as they are now.

I think we should just encourage more transit oriented development. Would be better than trying to give transit to people who don’t want it.

@@L154N4LG4IB Yup, the rich that don’t want certain people in their neighborhoods.

​@@brett8706the "Old Money" folks being replaced by the younger Millennial and Zoomer folks, which mean Democrat-majority governments at the county and municipal levels and mandates from DC in regards to where low income and affordable housing is to be built. Were not yet into seeing 15-minute cities on the Main Line yet, but given their penchant to vote for the Party of the "Propriska" (internal passport, which would be needed to leave the "Plantation" a.k.a. Collective Farm), I would not be too surprised if such would sprout up.

There has been no graffiti problem on rolling stock since the late 70s/80s.

@@yvonneplant9434 Really? Is that just Philly? NYC is a disgrace. No sooner a new batch of cars are on the rails, they are vandalized

@@yvonneplant9434That’s a lie

@@yvonneplant9434 someone apparently put graffiti on a broad st line car in the 2010s but besides that it's mostly true

@@yvonneplant9434 I still see graffiti on walls going inside and out of stations, some trains especially when looking at them from 69th St, I see graffiti trains near the back; aka the last trains on the chain have graffiti on it.

They first came back in 05, I was in 10th grade when I first rode them. Since then, I rode these for 15 years and also became my second favorite trolley route

And don’t forget CBS three in 2027 the St. Louis car CO Brookville PCC And Kawasaki LRV 9000 and 100 series single and double engines being replaced by ALSTOM LRV

Yes

Same with 23 as well

The tracks are actually underneath

@@dysontyronetd are they? I thought their were sections ripped up and sections paved over.

@@fairlessdave1834 You're quite correct

I agree with you bro

SEPTA has 112 City K cars and you telling me they can't just rebuild 18 of the k-cars the run down Route 15 with wheelchair

They are replacing them in a couple years

so that's not gonna happen. Kawasaki has focused on other projects

Most likely SEPTA is using federal transit funds to upgrade these trolleys and if major modifications are made the vehicles must meet handicapped access rules. Since the subway surface cars are only receiving routine maintenance and not a rebuilding they do not need to be updated. Hopefully it will not be much longer when they replace these cars with new handicapped accessible features.

@@johnchambers8528 In addition, since Route 15 was restored to streetcar service after the ADA went into effect, it is legally required to be ADA-compliant. The Subway-Surface routes started before ADA, so they are not legally required to be compliant.

They are gonna replace the Kawasaki trolleys for low floor modern trolleys but the 15 will use these trolleys, we should have them in a few years

They can walk and chew gum at the same time.

@@themoviebay . . . As opposed to the T up here in the Boston area, which apparently CAN'T walk and chew gum at the same time (and even separately is questionable).

I don't disagree with you. But these projects add jobs for talented people and the trolleys are an important part of the history of this area.

@@yvonneplant9434 Is Brookville assisting in this project?

We can walk and chew gum at the same time. Its not like they are pulling transit pollice to do this work

@@fogel76 No disrespect to police, but I doubt police officers can rebuild a 1940s PCC. Sad it was the Pinnacle of American Streetcar design.

we need our trolley's back tho!

You need to be patient. You think trolleys are slow, but not overly long train congestion like with subway trains. Trolley are very reliable and less complex.