Thank God you’re alive….I’m so sorry about the loss of your co workers. It probably feels like yesterday

Damn. Yeah, you worked above the point of impact. RIP to all you lost that day

That must be an incredible thing to live with. May you find peace

I’m so sorry you lost all your coworkers then. I’m praying for you.

Did your brother need a ride to the airport last minute?

22 years have passed..and i still feel this happend last year...the most traumatic event in our generation

A memorable event.. never to forget what happened that day. Feels like yesterday. This is going to be bizarre, but on the night of September 10th (2023), I had a dream of a another terrorist attack.

@@donsharma6136 GENERATION OF BIO-ROBOTS.

@@RASKATFAETON Are you feeling well?

@@griechland HOW DOES YOUR EMPTY HEAD FEEL DURED IN GREEN? WHAT HAPPENED - REPTILOID?

The GMA version (I believe it was GMA, or maybe it was CBS) is really creepy. I dont recall the anchor's name at the time, About 30-40 minutes before the first plane it, he said "It's a quiet morning. Too quiet." And not even an hour later, the first plane crashed. It's weird tho too to see the pre-9/11 America literally minutes before it happened. So surreal. The last time of peace before this current era of distrust and anger.

@@bigschmill294 I think it was Bryant Gumbel on the Today Show IIRC. “Almost too quiet.” Very eerie indeed.

@@frajoladellagato Yes I think you're right!! Thank you lol I've tried finding that clip again and I can't seem to find it. But I think it was him lol thank you

Probably because the building were so tall and big that the plane appeared smaller from people's POV on the ground.

Bcuz morons

Right

Well, we know different now. But at the time people only say what they think they saw. Lots of cameras were pointed at the towers, no one said 'look, there's another plane'. First they knew about it was when it exploded.

What plane? 🤔

Everyone was used to Hijackers taking the plane somewhere and asking for ransom for the Kidnapped , not Kill themselves and anyone else . The Airports changed from just get on board to total shake down of everyone and what is in the Bags. My 85 yo Grandma couldnt take knitting needles on flight

Well if you were in Florida you had nothing to worry about. At least I wasn’t.

@@markpalavosvrahotes5575living in Tampa Bay, we were definitely worried with MacDill AFB right here. It was and still is the CENTCOM for all military Middle East operations. There were several rumors of attacks planned to hit the base.

Yeah i skipped out of class after the Pentagon was hit. I was a senior in high school. The first class i walked into at 8am (9am ny) i saw the 2nd plane hit live. My geography teacher was always a happy go lucky guy, but that day we were all talking over the TV and he literally told us to shut the fuck up. After a couple of classes it was clear the entire country was watching. The whole day for me could best be described as an anxious excitement. Couldnt believe what was happening, freaking out looking into the sky waiting for planes to fall. It wasnt till my friends dad said after the 1st tower fell with his hands on his head, "do you know how many people we just watched die?" He had tears in his eyes and this guy was a bulldog of a man. Thats when the gravity of it really hit home. I still remember the clothes I was wearing 22 years later. Its one day that ill never forget a moment of.

People are even more suspicious of others today due to the Covid-19 pandemic 😷 but at least we came together as a country after 9-11.

Eyewitness reports are notoriously unreliable, we all have a different view of things, especially under shock.

I noticed that the stories conflicted.

a lot of over subscription on their testimony due to high emotions i think. one lady said the second plane was a “smaller jet, DEFINITELY a smaller jet”

​@@alexandermadden9563"Look Dougal: Small. Far away"

It was a missile. What you saw was cgi.@@alexandermadden9563

At that point, they're not trying to make definitive statements, as they don't want to get sued.

@@qwippertyWho is going to sue during a national tragedy?! Everyone knew when the second plane went in the second tower it was on purpose.

@@bradleyscarton3931 free money, dude.

​​@@qwipperty no man I have been annoyed by this moronic performance by Bryant Gumbel for the past 23 years. This man just decided that he was the Smartest person on Planet Earth and he refused to believe ANY of the eyewitnesses until he saw it for himself. It's a very unlikable piece of tape for gumbel

he was the worst that day. The second caller after the second plane hit had to explain to Gumbel like he was a child why that would be intentional.

Did you just thank fuckin youtube

@@juliebraden6911 I don't understand your language. And if you're being rude then stick your comment where your sun does NOT shine. Ta 😘

you Never forget..... I was upstate an hour and half from this when it happened...u Never forget

The weather was a clear blue sky that day, that's what I remember very clearly, not a cloud anywhere in the sky.

Yeah it was insane. I’m from Australia but my mum is from New York so all her family are all over New York. My uncle was supposed to be there that day but he had paperwork to do so he stayed home. I was only 11 years old and I was watching TV with my mum and there was a little message at the bottom saying a plane hit the world trade centre but me and my mum thought was just a really small plane or something like that and then we went to bed. Next morning it was just all over the news, so sad :(

@@patwaddington I remember a lot of stories like your Uncle's, something kept them from being in the buildings that day. Thank God your Uncle had paperwork to do. I remember one young woman was fired on Monday the 10th, she spoke to the news people about it. Take care.

I was working on Broad Street and had to break up an Arbitration case. There were 3 attorney's in from NYC. The look on their faces when I told them what happened was disbelief then panic. I can feel them running to their breakout toom, I can still feel the air of tension. One of them lost a wife that day.. We were on Broad n Locust. I you remember all monuments started closing here not knowing what was going on. We left work that day ignoring requests to stay at work.

He was a fucking idiot for that one. I’m like can you be that dumb and clueless

Why do you say that? Why do you say intentional? I'm not asking you to be an aviation expert... Dude

You have to understand how reporters are taught. He has to ask those questions in order to get the explanations following on recording he is also in shock. Hard to believe I know but reporters are people lol

@@RUNTHROUGHDATAPE ​ I understand what you are saying. When you are literally watching a live feed of what's happening. and they are asking idiotic questions, it's just frustrating. At 1:12:10 , two planes have smashed into the twin towers, one tower has just collapsed, and dan rather said, and I quote "There are known injuries, how many? Much too soon to know, and whether there is any death or not, it is too soon to know." Mind you at this time, we have all seen people jumping to their deaths from the buildings. I guess the obvious question is, why are the reporters taught this way?

No. Those are the days when reporters, especially the top tier, almost never reported opinion…only facts. as uncomfortable as that may seem, it’s how they were trained and it kept things mostly unclouded. As obvious as it probably was to them, just the facts ma’am. very different these days

Crazy cause I was the exact same age and I was a lance corporal in the marines I remember this like it was yesterday

@@slim812001thank you for your service sir 🫡

Thank you for your service sir 🫡🙏🇺🇸❤️

Like my brother, his 1st year in the Air Force. I thought he would for sure get deployed and it would be WW3…they didn’t deploy him, even with the Iraqi war. May all those souls rest in peace.

Did you basically know as soon as it happened that you were going to war?

We have the gift of hindsight. A terrorist attack like this had never occurred before, so it was confusing to a lot of people. Unlike these days, unwarranted fear-mongering and finger pointing was not acceptable from news networks.

​@@TitaniumTurbine people were literally in a state of shock.

He's not. Never been.

Sorry but that's not an excuse. Hindsight has nothing to do with that particular situation. Two planes hitting the same place that was attacked in 93, within 18 minutes of each other? Sorry, no its not a question in my mind, and like I said, Hindsight is not a player in it.

​@@TitaniumTurbineI was 17 years old and when I saw the 2nd plane hit and knew 100% that this was no accident. I was already suspicious of the first one. Gumball was and still is very ignorant.

Dan wasn't really listening to anyone, he had reporters telling him on air that the first tower had totally came down. And he just kept saying a section, a portion, and not until the second tower collapse, that Dan finally got it right. While everyone in front of a TV could see it

“And why do you say it was deliberate?” Gee, I don’t know Bryant, maybe because it’s the second plane to hit the buildings! Can’t believe he’s a reporter. So dim witted. And so exasperating to listen to. You could tell the people giving their accounts are surprised he’s even questioning what the pilot’s intent was at this point.

My go to channels were 4 NBC and 7 ABC, so I was going back and forth between them and CNN. When the tower with the antenna went down, everything went but CBS. I was stuck with them for a few days before we got back service. CBS was God awful. Some woman I had never seen before started to say horribly racist and xenophobic things about our fellow citizens. I couldn't believe it. To their credit, she suddenly disappeared, and I never saw her again on any network.

Gumble was terrible. "Why did you say that was on purpose?" Seriously? Lmfao

I'm not sure you guys understand how unthinkable it was back then that someone would fly a plane into a skyscraper. Gumbel not immediately taking the witnesses at their word makes sense for the time he was in. Especially since so many of them got other details wrong.

At 18 you didn't understand why you mom was crying?? What pissed me off the most was when people started diving out the windows.. That did me in, I became extremely pissed to a point that I called the marines an I demanded to be sent to war at the age of 29... They hung up.. Of course they did, but if they said yes, I would have went

@@CALLAHAN19 Ya I actually joined the infantry shortly after a failed theatre college diploma. However I did it cause I love the army, not because I love what the army does. I was slated to go to Iraq and pulled out cause my gf had giant bazooms and didn't want to live anywhere I'd be stationed. Also I'm averse to the concept of killing people who are largely innocent and afraid, or confused. I don't really agree with nation building and ya - I didn't understand why she cried. I didn't understand why she cared about a country hopelessly embroiled in international affairs for profit. I don't think people should lose their lives over money.

​@@CALLAHAN19that's rude of u maybe she did not see it and saw her mom crying before she knew what had happened

I am 70. I knew it was war when the second plane hit.

Damn, that must of hit hard thank you for sharing

Q

I still remember it so vividly, I was about to turn 24. I remember it so well, that day and I'm not even American! Can't even imagine how it was for you all.

My dad got me up 15 minutes earlier on a school day

Beautiful said I remember being in downtown Chicago on 9.11..looking up at "standard oil building " it's 80 stories tall ish and can't even imagine 2 taller buildings coming down with people... peace and safe travels everyone

Yes I remember my godmother coming to pick me and my god-brother up from school early(I was in 1st grade,) against school wishes and kind of throwing us in the car, obviously distraught but we had no idea why.. Then that afternoon my parents had me and my siblings in the living room, dimly lit with candles burning as they prayed with us and continued watching the news.. I couldn’t comprehend the tragedy but I knew that it was something terrible and that my parents were really scared. Will never forget.

Well, Bryant still thinks Jussie Smollett was the victim and Hunter's laptop never existed

More like Pea-Brain winner…

What, it wasn't intentional?! 😕

i was 24.still single

I was 19 too. Harrisburg PA. We thought Three Mile Island was a target that day. It was spooky affffff. Class of 2000.

I was 19 as well, I was in Army Basic training Ft. Sill Oklahoma I'll never forget the moment the Drill Sergeants called us into formation and told us what was going on

Well, a lot of my relatives had cellphones and what a lot of them were finding is they were jammed. Everybody was trying to call everybody else, and the transmitters got overloaded. The same thing happened with email and online chat. A lot of providers installed new larger servers after that.

Romelle a lot more would be alive

Yes...my dad said next day it's a history changing event, that the USA, and the rest of the world by proxy will never be the same.

I was 19 as well myself and I had a cell phone with which I got notified of the event from my cousin.

I was in Bahrain working for UPS. I was returning to the office after a sales call and a crowd gathered outside our office watching the LCD so I wanted to see what was going on. The people of the Gulf were in shock and people started in that week that proceeded putting American flags on their cars.

In an unprecedented situation like that, everyone's in shock and nobody's sure what the best thing to do is; they did the best they could.

One company decided to evaluate from tower 2 despite what they said and except of couple of people everyone survived and they had several hundred employers (could have been more than 1000 I don't quite remember). There where other companies decided to stay though and they lost all or almost all employers. Even a company where they got down and then decided to take the elevator back up and all died. So it was important too who ever was in charge of fire on the floor or the company if people decided to follow orders or not. There are always some who do what they want but usually majority of people seem to follow orders and why it's so important that those who are in charge and give orders really consider what they are saying, you really are responsible for lives (I wouldn't want to make those decisions). Of course here they probably thought it was an accident and thought this was the safety option, sadly it was the wrong decision but I wouldnt plane whoever gave the orders. Though one thing I blame them for, they lied that the fire on tower 1 was contained, I understand not wanting to cause panic but this likely led to people not understanding the seriousness and then not able to make the best decision for themselves.

Yup and security in the south tower told people to go back to work after the north tower was hit. Cost people their lives

​@@teijaflink2226Information is never reliable in the heat of the crisis. They aren't lies, they are probably the best information available

Everyone I’ve ever talked to about it knew it was terrorism as soon as the second plane hit…. then there’s Bryant Gumbel

2001 feels like a very long time ago so yes it does feel like it was 22 years ago

yeah.. *time flies*

@@user-ki3di3nf8j depends on anyone's age.

2001 feels like a long time ago but remembering what happened that day feels like yesterday

How that guy ever became a reporter or anchor is beyond me.

Good question, he was in the thick of it.

How is your niece today?

@@lagarde2011 How nice of you to ask!! After a relapse 4 yrs later... she ( Thank God a million times over, ) is now 26 yrs old, and is a ROCK STAR of a human being. She has packed more in her life than a stadium full of people. I'm 25 yrs older than her... but look up to her everyday! 🙏💪❤️

@@lisakatz7887 Yay!!!

Bravo! Somebody noticed that............

He's still convinced Jussie Smollet was telling the truth And Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation

Meanwhile, Regis Philbin who is not a reporter, said flat out that this was a terrorist attack as soon as they heard about the first plane.

​@@Sal-gh1se Yeah, he pretty much did. Also, one of the Fox and Friends hosts did likewise.

​@@Sal-gh1seRegis was a reporter when he was younger.

I imagine that the people living on the West coast who awoke at 7:30 PST would have turned on their TV's and entire, horrific event would have just ended, just 2 minutes earlier, after the second tower (1) came down. What a terrible day, may the victims of 9/11 RIP. We will never forget.❤🌹

It's just terrible reporting

@THE REAL TYREE SNEED it’s funny how the conspiracy theorists were never people who were actually in New York at the time.

But yeah ridiculous that Rather completely refused to state that the first tower had fallen when it clearly was gone.

NBC too. Or could not admit it fell. Just another 'explosion'. They were interviewing a woman on the street when it ( second tower)fell

Rather proved time and time again he wasn’t a credible journalist.

1:33:50 still repeating the 'portion' of the tower has collapsed while the live cam is obviously showing just one tower

He is an idiot.

Took the news caster a long time to realise it was on purpose, kept on ask why do you say it was deliberate, so frustrating.

@@geoffshaw8053it’s in shock

@@geoffshaw8053can’t really blame him. It was not in the realm of possibility back then, since 9/11 we’d draw these conclusions much quicket

That was Bryant Gumbal. He wasn’t that bright. Everyone knew when the second plane hit we were under attack. Terrorism was definitely in the realm of possible. Bin Laden had attacked the WTC a few years ago and had attacked an American navy ship a few months before end of Bill Clinton’s term. Clinton was a coward and nothing did about that attack

@@ChateauJuice Also, they're typically not watching the same feed as what's being broadcast. For production reasons, what's on the monitors on set is often different.

Peter Jennings, at first, had a similar reaction. He didn’t realize what he was looking at until Don Dahler, who was on the scene, said, “The whole building has collapsed.” He said it twice. When ABC re-racked the tape and showed the first tower coming down, all Jennings could say was a quiet, “My God.”

ya think?

Very tragic indeed, but in 100 years... I guess the memory will fade.

No shit Sherlock

​@@gregbradshaw7220Don't be a jerk! That's uncalled for.

​​​@@luxembourgerPeople havn't forgotten Titanic by far, and that was 111 years ago, that was by far less horrific and world-changing than 9/11. Very ignorant statement. Heck, the Wall Street crash in '29 is still remembered.

2977, not 2996.

For directional references to viewers. "Tower 1" and "Tower 2" don't really give a visual perspective to viewers looking at footage. Even to the firefighters inside, someone had to take a marker and draw #1 and #2 on something for the first responders. I suppose they could have used "North Tower" and "South Tower"...but most outside NYC have a better time discerning East and West since the towers were just east of the Hudson and therefore close to an East/West landmark when looking at footage.

It is currently 9:08 EST on the day of the 22nd anniversary and I'm watching this with so the times are lined up. I'm not sure why I am, but I am. Never forget.

December 29th is almost here. Then it's open season. 👍🏻😎👍🏻

Right? CNN and MSNBC both have the footage though as well as many civilians havign their own footage

He also repeated multiple times a rumour about a car bomb at the State Dept... There was no car bomb at the State Dept or anywhere else.

The ABC reporter also didn’t say it was intentional for an unbelievably long time, but at least he had a reason to. It’s clear in that coverage that rather than jumping to conclusions”it’s terrorism”, he simply doesn’t want to think of it as that.

The look on Dan Rathers face when they cut to him after tower 2 collapsed. Crazy stuff to watch again

Decorum.

Handsome

Great description? He said it was a small plane and it bounced off the building

Maybe the worst witness to describe the type of plane that crashed into the World Trade Center towers on 9/11.

@@andyfoxy3140 Relative to the Gumble confusion, he gave a consistent description of what he witnessed. Big plane or not, the key detail was a plane crashed into the North Tower. He didn't make any assumptions or talk about anything he didn't directly witness.

Meh. @@ritemolawbks8012

What a terrible news caster. He's an asshole. RIP to all who lost their lives.

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@@gjthomas9770 Garbage self promotion. You should be ashamed.

Matt Adams ridiculous isnt it? he should have apologized for 10 minutes

Not surprised

I think the hardest part of watching this isn’t just seeing people dying, but knowing what path it would lead us down in response. 9/11 took our country to a dark place we still haven’t been able to crawl out of

@@jayfron6012 I agree man. America changed that day. They say the terrorists did it because “they hate us for our freedoms”. Bullsh*t. They hate us because our government does things like those they did in response to this

And look at us now.

The cold war as "normal" Fun thinking

Not too different now for people living outside of big cities. Life goes on.

News coverage on Nickelodeon or Disney Channel doesn't make sense. For as far as I'm aware, Disney Channel made something about it with their stars.

@QueenofVHS @QueenofVHS the channels are owned by bigger corporations, like Viacom. So, Viacom forced all their channels to show 9/11 footage. Most of it was from ABC, CBS, and others. You are referring to the post-9/11 promos they did. But, on the day of 9/11, every channel, including kids channels and MTV, had live 9/11 coverage.

I was 17 at the time. I remember the most important channel showing it here in Brazil without stopping. I didn't know what was going on, but we knew it was something serious. When we realized what was that and the number of people who have died that day I knew world would change. 22 years after that here I am remembering it

@@QueenofVHSNickelodeon is owned by Viacom, as is CBS Disney Channel and ABC are both owned by the Walt Disney company

@@rubenthompson5900 Hey I'm sorry for the last reply I thought you were being blunt please forgive me

Holy shit

For real???

@@JamesMonte1th Yes.

@@AugustusRex-nk8ze bro that’s insane

@@JamesMonte1th It was a little spooky, for sure.

Especially when its something out of the ordinary.

Thank Jaime Gorelick who was instrumental in creating the communication wall between the CIA and FBI, and who also had a major role in Fannie Mae collapsing, she received huge bonuses for collapsing Fannie Mae, she was basically the grim reaper.

@@A-FrameWedgereading her bio she is an example of the swamp that needs to be eradicated, represented kushner in his conflict of interest case, was part of the 911 commission when she definitely should have recused herself and that Fannie mae thing is horrible and she took several million in compensation while she was there being objectively terrible

That and egotism with the CIA by thinking they can do better. Which is one of the harms can do for America's public services and needs. They put their own pride ahead first while national security, last

Incorrect, it was a intra FBI wall that was being misunderstood that was the problem.

Gelatin the B thing

Notice they finish that story nice and after that. The special news bulletin

They did. CNN had an add, but in the middle of that they jumped right to the live picture of WTC. "Just log on..."

ABC’s commercial before coverage started was sad as well. it was a bump for Nightline regarding Congo and the millions who died there in the decade before

To me it seems like life before hand of 9/11 USA seemed very peaceful before the chaos unfolded and changed everything for American life forever. It was kinda after Y2K but before all this seemed unchahotic (I’m not mentioning Columbine I’m from that state) but majority of life in America seemed peaceful. That segment beforehand seemed a calm before what we are going to watch so yes, unsettling. 😥

⁠@@GG-jn4dxthings were eerily calm that day before this happened and were relatively chilled out from Y2K until 9/11, with the most chaos probably being from the 2000 presidential election. It was just a normal Tuesday for most that morning until this came on the TV. I was 10 years old on this day and still remember things vividly.

Yeah and it was probably rather hard to believe they actually collapsed at that time.

Total collapse was far from anyones mind at the time, it was not something people expected at all. Combined with shock, If you did not see it live first hand, it was very confusing and hard to grasp.

The fact that dust bellowed out and blocked the view had more to do with it than anything. Video quality at that time was decent.

He was too busy reading the teleprompter. Smh.

I actually thought it was the worst of the Big 4. Surprisingly Fox did a good job that day. Gumbel came across as clueless.

​@@TheHbomb1970As far as the actual news department at FOX goes, they have always been sound. Everyone confuses the evening opinion shows with news and it is not news in the evening

Yeah he was really stupid that morning. He asked that question multiple times, and each time he asked just pissed me off more and more because it's not like it's a common situation to fly planes into high rise buildings!

I would normally agree but I think bro was just in shock like everyone else

@@Eli-ss9gjThe other anchors on the other networks figured out by the time the second plane hit that it was deliberate. On several networks they were discussing the possibility that it was intentional after the first plane hit.

​@@Eli-ss9gjeveryone was in shock, but Gumbel was the only moron trying to play devil's advocate like that.

Agree. He says the 2nd plane hit "the north side of the westernmost tower". His orientation was totally reversed. It was the south side of the south(southeast) tower. Also said hitting "10 to 15 stories below" but didn't say below what. Below top of tower, below the other impact. Not criticizing though, as the chaos of that day must have caused so much confusion for those trying to cover it live. Just interesting all the inaccuracies.

Clueless is more like it

Legit. If I hear “why do you say it was intentional?” One more time I’m going to throw my phone.

Then use your common sense!!

Seriously. You're right, we certainly have hindsight and context, but the whole hesitance around the south tower collapse - "many reports that the south tower has collapsed but we don't know that" while the images on the screen CLEARLY show the tower is completely gone? I get not wanting to put your foot in your mouth, but even in the midst of chaos, some things were very clear.

And 1 year later everything was normal again, up to know

im sorry but can you please put a timestamp?

@@cherrykoolaiddisastersshe’s talking about her own experience not something from this video

​@@SophieX95😂

You dont know what war is, this is 1/100000000 of a war

DrKate L. You can hear the sounds in background, many firefighters have fallen.

Yeah, dick move by the reporters and network. Respect the duty to save lives.

CBS probably was the worst of the three major networks that day. Especially disappointing considering what a legacy they've had over the years.

You couldn't see anything for the dust.

When they hired you did they say, "Youve got job!"?

@@urmailman Huh?????

I can't stand any of the nosey news reporters. This guy is absolutely badgering these witnesses. His only directive is to get an "exclusive" SMDH

I was 30 and in Philly for a job interview that day. The interview got cancelled and they put a freeze on hiring. Crazy time.

I lived in southern California. Still do. I will never forget the eery quiet in the skies due to all planes being grounded for a few days.

Also RIP to the many responders who would die years later due to illness from exposure to all the chemicals they inhaled.

nah bro

@@English_MoFo Because it's assorted with many others

@@CrossOfBayonne no because they’re dead. “Rip to all those that died”

Semper fi

Where?

​@@BillyBong First appears around 13:50 at the very top of the frame. In this camera view, draw an imaginary line with your eye up from the right side of the south tower. With that imaginary line you'll intersect with the 2nd plane incoming. It moves down/left diagonally across the frame for a brief moment. It's not visible by 13:52 because the smoke plume obscures it. Only appears for 2 seconds. 2nd tower impact is at 14:04, a full 12 seconds later. The object seen at 13:50 has to be the 2nd plane, considering it approached from the south and this camera angle would have captured the approach.

@mg3226 I couldn't see it, but you are right, I never seen this angle cause most from this position look like they are coming from the right of the screen or you can see it between the buildings before it hits. This(obviously cause of the angle) looks like its falling straight down. Never saw that aproach.

Yeah Dan Rather is just awful

Gumbel having the nerve to ask that witness why she thought it was deliberate when a plane crashed into the other tower not 20 minutes prior on a perfectly clear day... unbelievable.

@@wet-read I agree. Maybe he was trying to be clear on why people were saying it was deliberate but he came across as confrontational and as if he didn’t believe what the witnesses were saying.