Credits, Notes and Links: Credit to BrianMercy1022, MTA Bus Transit Fanner, BeMyselfPhotography. MTAiscool09, NJTE, TTE, Trackwerk, Brayan Lucero, OrionVIIsForever, SIRFan, EA Opster, Jorge, Mangle, Windows, Neoplan, NY1, Pix11, and many others for providing some of the pivotal information and/or pictures used in this video. Notes: •The oldest train will in fact be the R142/As, but the oldest train type in the B-division will be the R143s. •Surfers were present on the BMT Standard on 6/15 Links: R262/R268 RFP- new.mta.info/document/112931 Nostalgia Trips- www.nytransitmuseum.org/nostalgiarides/ (7) Line Construction- www.qchron.com/editions/queenswide/no-7-train-station-work-begins-may-12/article_451d3d3f-d994-54f7-8abf-a3cf79d743c4.html licpost.com/manhattan-bound-trains-to-bypass-queensboro-plaza-station-for-two-weeks-starting-july-31 jacksonheightspost.com/mta-renovate-7-train-stations-command-center-jackson-heights ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/transit/2023/01/03/mta--no-7-line-service-for-six-weekends--starting-in-february IND 63rd Street Construction/Service Changes- new.mta.info/article/service-changes-f-and-m-lines-starting-august-28#:~:text=we%27re%20doing-,From%20August%2028%2C%202023%20through%20the%20first%20quarter%20of%202024,and%20Jackson%20Hts%2DRoosevelt%20Av. Service improvement info for subway lines and newly accessible subway station info can be found on the MTA’s IG account. OMNY Vending machines coming soon, fare hikes, new turnstiles- gothamist.com/news/omny-vending-machines-coming-to-nyc-subway-this-summer rooseveltislanddaily.news/2023/07/20/subway-fares-are-going-up-now-after-eight-years/amp/ pix11.com/news/transit/more-mta-fare-hikes-feared-facing-post-pandemic-fiscal-cliff/ pix11.com/news/transit/mta-testing-new-turnstiles-in-select-subway-stations-around-new-york-city/ gothamist.com/news/mta-unveils-new-designs-for-subway-turnstiles-reports-690m-in-fare-and-toll-evasion kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nZ9zmaeD3N6tp4U.html *Some images shown in this video are for visual representation purposes only, and may not fully represent the topic being addressed.*

I’m gonna miss the R46 😢

Fantastic. You nailed exactly what I've been hearing, except for the R211T. From what I've gathered from a "reliable source", the T units are involved in a hot bed of controversy, contention between management and crews about the cars. I highly doubt that CRRC will ever get a railcar contract from MTA, using federal funds. The top contenders are Alstom and Kawasaki. Siemens usually keeps to the not so pretty, or visible wayside or background equipment contracts. How ever, Siemens will be in the running to build the cars for the new Interboro Express line link. Alstom also makes a fantastic LRT train set that could potentially work very well for the initial set up. Time will tell the story. I'm honestly looking forward to seeing and R211T second option order for the Eastern Division, since the line is still short on equipment, like the A and C. If more trains are sent there, then the actual "service increase" announced will be actually noticed by the rider. As of the moment, everything is a toss up. Thanks for your time.

I am Jorge who supplied some pictures thanks techno and good job

Another solid video. We'll know more on the R268's when the MTA releases its 2025-2029 Capital Plan in late-2024.

Our friend Dan was wearing the blue shirt and shorts next to the Arnines at 96th St

They should at least use the R44s and 46 for shuttle services. Gonna miss those subway cars so much. They're the subway cars of all subway cars.🥺

Am gonna really miss the R46 because I used to ride on the F line

They will keep the R46 until early 2025. The A and C lines should be fully CBTC in late 2024 or early 2025.

I've been waiting for these cars since 7th grade. I'm a senior now, in college.

This is going to be wild

10:51 “…making the oldest active train in the system at that time the R143’s.” The R142’s and R142A’s: are we a joke to you?

0:34 I'm not sure if that is normal because the samething happened on the 7 train at mets willets point when the doors opened on both sides after the right side doors closed the train moved with the left doors still open and I saw that with my own eyes and confronted the conductor about it.

R211A Delivery Plan A Train will receive 420 sets of R211s from the base order and the C Train will receive 150 sets R211s from the first option order and for a total of 570 Subway Cars The Rest of the 915 Subway cars from the first and second option order is going to Jamaica Yard for the E, F and possibly the G and R Trains for service increases The second option order for the 32 four car sets is going to the M Train and possibly the J Train to see service increases

To get you up to speed, you mentioned vandalizing and surfing. Coney Island has already inserted a slip not on top of subway cars that prevent people from still standing on top of them. Many new subway delays have caused by teenagers subway surfing, which have resulted in deaths due to slips. The (7) line has been the victim of subway surfing and many who have friends AND family working in the system should’ve known that one of their own is on top of the train. Photos of the aftermath show very graphic results. Because of information about vandalism, the TA has installed cameras INSIDE the train. The R160s were the first to get them, the R188s have a different one.

Can’t stop the A-Train baby

You forgot to mention about the Westchester Sq station renovation on the (6) and the express service being cancelled because of it.

This is great video 👍

I think Stadler should build the R262s,

R Train: Nah bro ima go ask the G to come back to Forest Hills like before the 2010's.

R42 4816-4817 could be used canniblized for extra parts for the remainder of the R42 pairs

but the part that you said the R train has to get a new friend better than 8 car M train.

10:50 the R142's and R142A's are actually going to be the oldest when that happens.

Nice video More r211s will be ordered I’m so excited

Dont forget that this year marks 20 years of the Rehabilitated 74th Street & Jackson Heights Station. Anyways, I feel bad for the (R) since its doing all the work. The MTA should reconsider extending the (G) line to Forest Hills on weekdays only and maybe weekends. This could increase service and reduce overcrowding and less time for a transfer since it would be easy for (G) train customers to ride 1 way to crosstown via the QBL and not have to walk a long way for a transfer.

16:32 That's actually accurate. The (M) isn't loyal, heh. Chris Brown called, he wants his feature.

This was uh unexpected.

I wonder of the R211s would run on QBL

Will R46 also retire on Coney Island yard (Broadway lines I’m talking about) well if so what if couple of R160’s get send from Jamaica yard to Coney Island yard since R68’s are staying on Broadway Lines until they get replaced by proposal R268

Well the redbird trip has been rerouted via the (1/2/3) and (4/5/6) lines due to CBTC on the (7)

These trains are nice, I wish they did a better job by reducing the notice from the wheel and tracks...

Replacing the R46 rolling stock calls for purchasing at least 600 R211 cars. 513 R211 railcars won't do the trick, because they are 60' long, and the R46 railcars are 75' long, as you already know. Techno 7843 gave me the news I needed to know. It is the next best thing to reading a General Order (GO) notice.

10:39 when will these trains be delivered?

Miss the 32 44 46.

Can someone say wheter the r262 and r268 will have Doors between train Cars?.

No more Brown M train😔😔

So the D and B will stick with R68s until the train after the r211 finishes it order I guess? 😢

What's the point of protection trains?

The R68s arent going anywhere for at least a decade.

oh god, this has become the debate of the decade. (And I Just deleted my old comment because there's a lot I've learned since.) People have become nasty with each other debating whether R211s are going to Coney Island (for the (B) and (D) trains), Jamaica Yard (for (E) and (F) trains), or both (directly replacing R46s where they run now). This is of course in addition to the (A) and (C), which is accepted as a given now. Long story short, I'm team Jamaica, and I'll spend the rest of this wall text nerding out and elaborating you can stop reading now 😝). Assuming the second option order is taken, I think ten-car R211s will exclusively serve the (A), (C), (E) and (F) lines. With 150 trains, there's enough for the (E) and (F), which cannot run additional trains to boost frequencies due to low capacity terminals at WTC and Coney Island, as well as the (A) and (C), which can receive up to six additional trains to run more service with. I'd love for the five-car R179s to stay on the (A) (mostly for extra seats for the very long commutes to/from the Rockaways), but MTA probably wants consistency, for maintenance as well as training purposes, also Queens Blvd is the busiest B-Division corridor and, as mentioned earlier, have no room for frequency boosts, so the increased capacity onboard R211s would be appreciated. That displaces a shitload of five-car NTT's to Coney Island and Concourse to run on the (B), (D), (G), (R) (some stay at Jamaica just for the (R), so the (E), (F), (R) could run a mixed fleet with a 2:1 ratio of R211s/R160s), and even the (Q) line. According to one commenter, MTA wants to be able to reroute the (Q) onto CBTC 6th Ave lines whenever needed. I don't like this idea because it leaves too many R68[A]s unused; however the math does work out, with 142 R160 and R179 trains for all of the above. And if they don't do this after all, 77 R68[A] trains are still a lot for the (N), (Q) and (W). The (G) doesn't need the four-car sets; by the time deliveries for the second option order begin, all R46s are retired already, so that's (81 five-car sets) added to the system. And the (G) doesn't use that many cars for service in the first place. What I hope they do is match (G) frequencies to (F) train frequencies (the (F) is more frequent currently); I estimate this would increase the maximum number of cars used for the (G) from 65 to 90, about a 40% increase (while decreasing merging conflicts), so maybe they can hold off on ten-car trains for now. I don't think it's a great idea for the (F) to run express in Brooklyn full-time until deinterlining is pursued. As a side note, Jamaica Yard is reportedly over capacity, so I would not be surprised if the (G) moves back to Coney Island. If this is done, then I estimate the (total quantity of full-length trains at Coney Island (not counting the Franklin Ave Shuttle) going up to 150; according to nycsubway dot org, this Yard has capacity for "near 1,800 subway cars". So the math works out too. Finally, it's only 11 eight-car R179s displaced from the (C). The (J) will actually need them. Why? The (J) currently borrows R143s and R160s from the (L) ---- but that's okay for now because the (L) cannot run 34 trains configured for its unique CBTC system until substation power upgrades are performed; if that happens the (J) probably cannot borrow from the (L) anymore. I was originally perplexed at just the (8 four-car) R211s, but it does make sense for the (M) to take advantage of those after all.

When is the R211S coming to Staten Island for Testing? I heard either January or April 2024. But again who knows.

for the R262 and R268, I predict hitachi will make them

Ecellent video! Good bye miserable R46.... Horrible in the beginning. Cracked Rockwell trucks, horrible workmanship and lousy MTBF. Yucky brakes, inadequate truck supports. Drama, grief and lawsuits busted Pullan Standard. Only became liveable after Morrison Knudson overhaul, which was more like an almost complete re-engineering of the cars: turning them in to ABBA sets, ripping out the engineer/conductor cabs, adding the LCD signs and scrapping g off the blue paint. Only after that effort did they become reliable. Goodbye, formica and fake wood veneer and Buger King seating. 45+ years of agony must come to an end. The R211s will more than likely be okay. Other than fewer seats and tacky/unnecessary livery.

Rode the train the other day, Again. I actually studied the interior, and definitely came to a conclusion, that this is a modified R160. The windows are far too small, but only because the door pockets have to be larger for the wider doors. Effectively reducing the amount of seats where now only 5 average sized people can sit comfortably side by side, with an ADA compliance area at the head end of the cars. Yellow bucket seats that fold up to create room for wheelchair or walkers, or even strollers. In the overall sense, I believe that the 211T would have been a better fit for all the modifications, since so much was taken away and given to the ADA riders. I do understand the fears concerning the open gangway concepts, but it is what it is. More room is more Room. In all honesty, the cars look like a R46 having a baby with a NTT, with a little Path PA5 mixed in. Am blast from the past, with a splash of the future. Elements of former rolling stock mixed in, such as the ORIGINAL R40 DESIGN, THAT HAD SMALL A DESIGNATION SIGN ABOVE THE BULKHEAD DOOR, but was removed, and replaced with a exp/lock sign... And the revived brightly lite indentifican signs with route and trunk color. All old tech, renewed and reused. So,I'm figuring that the bulk of the "new" is things we can't see of the bat, that makes the train operate safely. It's cool. It pretty much follows what car design has been for the last 90 years, starting with the creation of the IND system. Dimensions have stayed the same, with minor adjustments here and there. It's the same R1, modified through each contract with greater and better amenities to suit the times. Within the next 20 year, the oldest B Division car will be the R143, and they will be 40 years old,.. Wonder what the replacement cars will look like for those. 😊