Boiling it down, there is no promise that the US makes, that it will not instantly break the moment it thinks it will be an advantage to do so.

these last 2 interviews Nima has done with Ray McGovern have been truly excellent

Why would anyone trust US

Ray’ photographic memory is unbelievably rigorous. What brain this youngster has! Every interview is more brilliant than the last- any platform.

Mr McGovern is a great peaceful and peace loving person, respect 🙏🙏

Mr McGovern is one in a million.

Always a pleasure to listen to the wisdom and knowledge of Ray McGovern. And Nima is the best interviewer.

Thank you, Nima, for providing platforms for people like Ray, Larry, and Scott. We wouldn't know what was really going on without channels like yours.

This is one of the best explanations of the timeline of how this all happened. Thank you.

Fantastic interview...Ray has lived the history and is putting all this together

Nima, please bring Ray on again in the same format - this man is a un-ending fountain of insight and clear recollection, linking data and showing the way decisions were made and how we can move forward. As you do, let him talk and construct his history. It is fascinating.

Mr. Lawrow is a smart , educated man. ❤❤❤

Thanks Nima Thanks Ray For another truth session and more ❤from 🇿🇦

We are truly blessed to have someone like Mr. Ray McGovern amongst us. May God and us all protect this man at all costs.

I never get tired listening to Ray McGovern's knowledge and wisdom.

It's refreshing to receive honest history.

This gentleman is a real treasure and a delight to listen to!

These amazing interviews with the wonderfully wise Ray McGovern are vital historical documents. Thank you for conducting such an informative series. 🙏👍😎

And love his easy, skillful, kindly way of narrating any progressively anguished chronology of events. With lots of good schoolboy humour. What a gem of a teacher if he ever was.

Thank you Nima for inviting Ray McGovern back as a guest. His interviews are always extremely informative and highly enlightening, no matter the topic discussed! It is appalling that his voice is heard on so few platforms, as everything he elaborates upon is on point! At least we get to benefit from Ray’s years of experience and wisdom, during your interviews with him. He has profound wisdom on a broad range of topics, and we are all better informed after listening to what he has to say! Thank you Nima, for having Ray McGovern back as a recurring guest , on your wonderful podcast! You are doing an excellent job keeping us all well informed about current events. Please keep up the good work!

No no, on Reddit everyone says Ukraine can’t lose, all they need is a TRILLION DOLLARS!

Long live Russia long live president Putin love and support from India 🇷🇺🤝🇮🇳 Uraaaaa💪

Didn’t we tell the Russians that we would take atomic weapons out of Turkey and Italy in lieu of Russia taking their out of Cuba?

Kaixo Nima and Ray😉 Always a pleasure to hear your great geopolitical update.keep up the good work. Greetings from the Basque Country.Euskalerria.

Mr. McGovern, Mr. Encyclopedia McGovern, once again received my thumbs up.

From Kennedy to Biden and Trump; how low a nation can sink..

This is the best channel for truthful info about geopolitics

Thanks Ray I was twelve years old and remember this incident in 1962 and that was the end of democracy in the USA. Four years later I was in Vietnam as a merchant, marine in the AFL-CIO and not one American soldier there believing that they were protecting their country.

Extremely well done!

99.9% TRUTH will Do Me Mr.McGovern - Brilliant as always

What a wonderful show, Thank you Nima for bringing Ray on!

Nima, thanks for repeating the conversation again and again on this side with new insight each time

You two, Ray and Nima, make a great team.

Long live Russia-China friendship!! 中俄友谊万岁！！！

Youngster McGovern educates yet again. :)Bless you sir, and, Nima of course for providing us with these uncensored , truthful and objective interviews.

Nima is well educated young man and Ray experienced professional. Brilliant conversation.

Yet another excellent and informative interview Nima, and with a truly exceptional guest in Ray McGovern: much appreciation to you both.

Thank you for letting this man speak without interruption. Unlike the judge.

Thank you for speaking the truth.

refreshing and SCARY ! thanks again guys..

Thank you, gentlemen! 🙏🏻💪🙏🏻

Amazing historic overview of Karribean crisis. Thank you mr. Ray McGovern

RAY MCGOVERN , MAY YOU LIVE LONG AND PROSPER , FOR THRUTHS SAKE MY MAN GOD BLESS YOU FOR YOUR COURAGE TO TELL THE TRUTH

Nima giga chad actually letting people talk for 15 minutes straight

Lavrov is the most formidable foreign minister ever.

Ray knows tradecraft; just like in le Carré spy novels

They're back education for everyone NOT like university!

Interesting interview, covers different ground - feels like i havent heard this one before. Great stuff, thanks Nima.

Many thanks to both of you...

Thank you!

Bravissimo

"Some people have some devotion for the truth". What a quote. Thank you both.

Do you think when the Soviet Union collapsed that USA and Europe should have supported them economically? Imagine

From a Sage, intelligence analysis, par excellence!

Not surprisingly, McG, omits to mention that the soviet submarines, that were escorting the ships with missiles to Cuba, started getting depth charged by U.S ships. This was an act of war. The three submarine captains had to agree unanimously to retaliate (with nuclear missiles). One captain wouldn't agree, which averted a nuclear exchange. We wouldn't be here now if all three sub captains had agreed. Some time later, the yanks admitted that they'd been depth charging the subs, and claimed that the soviets would've known that they didn't intend to destroy the subs (psychic?) - cr@p!!! Kennedy saved the world - double cr@p!!!

Great stuff Nima from good old Ray. A hero of our times.thanks.

Excellent interview!

This is all we - Ukrainians need to know about this proxy NATO vs Russia war: “Being an enemy of America is dangerous, being a friend of America is fatal.” - Henry Kissinger *** >>>I guess it was the 12th or 13th time to Kiev, and I was supposed to announce that there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee. I got a commitment from Poroshenko and from Yatsenyuk that they would take action against a state prosecutor, and they didn’t. “So as they were walking out to the press conference, I said, nah, we aren’t going to give you the billion dollars. They said you have no authority, you are not the President. I said call him. I’m telling you, you are not getting the billion dollars. “You are not getting the billion; I am leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you are not getting the money. “Well, son of a bitch, he got fired.>If you put aside the immense human suffering and look at Ukraine’s war through the cold lens of international power politics, a clear picture emerges: the West is having a good war against Russia. All NATO has to do is send Kyiv munitions, equipment and money, which, as any general knows, is the c h e a p e s t way to wage war. (...) The lives are being given by the Ukrainians. They’re defending their nation but also, inadvertently, helping decide the Cold War. For 70 years, NATO deterred a Moscow attack westwards. The Russians eventually invaded, last February, what they assumed would be a conquerable target on their south-western border. The war that NATO long prepared for is finally being fought.

The world needs to know the truth

Keep bringing us truth

Whatever Ray Mcgovern informs us about the Usa we can believe, because he is a man of honor with an extensive knowledge of CIA cq. security service !!! May the Lord bless him !!!

Thanks for your transparent view of the facts

Ray - "Intelligence agency that tells the truth" I burst out laughing, Ray, you worked for these establishments and you seriously think that they're in the business of telling the truth, its like a politician that tells the truth, neither has a career and get moved out or sideways pronto.

Thanks for the interview Nima

I like very much to hear Ray McGovern. Very interesting. If more americans think as McGovern we would live in a better world.

The US-UK Axis Alliance has never been a Force for Peace! "Playing All Hail Oceania" - "The War is Not meant to be Won. It is meant to be Continuous" War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. George Orwell 1984.

👌Ray

Do the Europeans really listen to the details Mr.MacGovern explains or do they dismiss it as Russian propaganda

👏👏👏👏 for this show!!!

On point as always

I've been hearing that warning about the US first use of a tiny nuke. This time the explaination was convincing.😨 Wish DC had a no first use pledge.

Le mensonge est leur savoir faire depuis qu'ils ont mis les pieds en 1792.

Great commentary

There is no such agreement that can be signed up with a predator.

Ray McGovern seems on the face of it genuine until I know better.

Bravo

Ray is getting better and better...going for the S tier

Ray is a lovely man.

„Beware of old men, they haven‘t got anything to lose.“ (Peter Scholl-Latour) Beware of old overstretched empires, they haven‘t got anything to lose.

an understatement at its best.

How can you believe anything that is real ? If you think we I'm walking on a ball instead of something flat,

smart guest! agree 100%

Obviously, every conversation - including phone calls - between officials needs live tape or digital recording¹! 1 Not that it necessarily would change much

The other thing we didn't know until AFTER the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 and the opening of the KGB archives some time after that, was that the Soviets had ALSO installed "Frog" short-range nuclear missiles into Cuba to defend their missile bases from attack. These were highly mobile battlefield nuclear missiles on tank chassis, which could be launched at invading ground troops. The US Joint Chiefs of Staff were pressing VERY hard for Kennedy to invade Cuba to physically destroy or remove the missiles. After the Bay of Pigs fiasco that left Kennedy with egg on his face, this must have been very tempting and the chiefs were certainly pressing for it. BUT Kennedy realized that attacking the missiles and airfields (there were also a few Soviet medium bombers on Cuba supposedly given to the Cuban air force for their own use) would bring US forces and Soviets forces into direct combat, and likely provoke the very nuclear war he was trying to avert, which the US chiefs didn't care if they avoided since they KNEW "they'd win" based on sheer numbers of missiles and bombs and subs they had versus the Soviets at that time... Luckily Kennedy resisted this impulse, because the Soviets command and control system was not as advanced as the US's either, and operating from Cuba put the Soviet leadership out of direct contact with their nuclear missile forces in Cuba. Thus Khrushchev had issued orders to the field commanders of the Frog missiles and IRBM's in Cuba that they had the freedom to launch their missiles IF they believed that it was "use them or lose them" ie if they were under attack by US forces from the air or an invasion of US forces into Cuba threatening to encircle them. They were in NO CIRCUMSTANCES to allow their nuclear weapons to be captured by the Americans. SO *IF* the USA HAD invaded Cuba, no less person than MacNamara himself (US Secretary of Defense under Kennedy) stated that there WOULD have been a nuclear war... The Soviet troops in Cuba would have launched their Frog missiles at the invasion beaches the US forces were landing on, and obliterated the invasion force with these battlefield nuclear weapons the US didn't even know were there. It would have been a shocking surprise to have thousands of US troops vaporized, burned, blinded, incinerated, and irradiated on the beaches of Cuba in the midst of an invasion, and of course once the balloon went up, the Russian missile regiments on Cuba would have readied, fueled, and launched their nuclear missiles as soon as they possibly could have, rather than risk their destruction by US air strikes or being overrun by US invasion troops or paratroops/special forces. The US would have of course launched an immediate nuclear counterstrike against the USSR and Cuba.

Speriamo tutti in un miracolo mr. Mcgovern, la pace dipende dagli USA. Grazie per la sua testimonianza.

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You should have Jill Stein on for some REAL political vision.

Burns telling adulterated intelligence stories is symptomatic of a situation which makes telling the truth impossible, even for a man in his position.

Behind the American Iron curtain.

was an eyeopener to me about Trump's smart NY real estate gang being out of their depth in Washington ( & the good ol' boys from GA ): what has changed since the days of Harry Hopkins & A Harriman?

Would I put it past them, hell no. They are all crazy.

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Brics nations need to give us an alternative to KZfaq sick and tired of comments getting deleted and show I like to watch getting taken down.

It helps to watch Ray at 1.75x or 2x speed

Russia China Turkey Egypt.... Not intetested in saving Palestinians

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It's all gone a bit Roman.

Now this part of the story gets left out... The REASON why Khrushchev and the Soviet leadership felt they had the RIGHT to put missiles into Cuba was because the US had put the same medium and intermediate range nuclear missiles into Turkey and Italy, to put them in range of Soviet targets like Moscow, and capable of hitting Moscow with a thermonuclear explosion ten minutes after launch from Turkey. At the time the US strategic missile (ICBM) program was felt to be markedly behind the Soviet ICBM program, remember the Soviets demonstrated a capable ICBM by launching the world's first artificial satellite in October 1957, and in the uproar that followed Khrushchev had made some very foolish statements and blusters about the Soviets "cranking out missiles like sausages" which only played into US fears (and the US MIC's intention to get emergency programs funded to do a series of crash missile programs.) Thus was born the "missile gap" which sorta started due to a lack of intelligence over the USSR, but with the advent of the U-2 spyplane, the US was soon overflying all the Soviet missile bases and factories and knew EXACTLY what they had and didn't have, and it was proven that the "missile gap" was a myth. Of course politicians make hay even out of untrue stuff, and Kennedy made a lot of hay about the "missile gap" in the Presidential campaign of 1960, claims that he as a Senator had been informed were untrue, BUT which were based on secret information that couldn't be divulged to the public, so his rival in the campaign, Richard Nixon, who was Eisenhower's Vice President and ALSO had been briefed and shown the secret data that the missile gap was a farce and didn't exist, COULD NOT REFUTE Kennedy's claims WITHOUT revealing secret information, so he simply had to eat crow on the campaign trail over Kennedy's false claims about the missile gap. For their part the Soviets were NOT happy about having US ballistic missiles in Turkey armed with thermonuclear warheads. Khrushchev's son, Sergei, said in an interview how much this angered and frustrated the Soviet leadership, including his father. Often while on holiday at their Crimean dacha Black Sea retreat, Khrushchev could be seen on the back veranda with a large pair of binoculars, staring through them out to sea. His guests would, perplexed, ask him, "Nikita Sergeyevich, what are you looking at?" To which he would reply, "American nuclear missiles in Turkey, pointed at my dacha!" A bit of black humor but typical of Russians to demonstrate the frustration they often feel at uncontrollable situations. The Jupiter was one of the early missiles developed by Werner Von Braun working for the Redstone Arsenal in Alabama... his first missile was the Redstone, a short-range ballistic missile that could loft a nuclear warhead a couple hundred miles, and which was basically a modernized and improved V-2 missile, using many of the same technologies like fins and carbon thrust vanes in the rocket exhaust to steer the missile, and using a combination of liquid oxygen and alcohol/water mix for fuel, just like the V-2. Jupiter was more advanced and of a longer range capability, and while they didn't possess the range to hit the USSR from launch sites in the USA, they could from launch sites in Turkey and Italy. The US, fearing that it was behind since development of their own ICBM in two separate programs, Atlas and Titan, was late in starting and suffering teething problems common with complex rocket launch vehicles (both would go on to become mainstays of the early US space program; even Jupiter would be retasked as an unmanned space launcher but a very unsuccessful one, the Juno II). SO with Turkey being a NATO ally, the USA felt it had the right to put Jupiter missiles into Turkey within range of the USSR heartland. After all, the Soviets were POWERLESS to do anything about it except complain! Of course things had changed by 1962-- Both the Titan and Atlas missile projects had born fruit and overcome their problems and the US put over 300 Atlas and Titan ICBM's into service, first in coffin launchers and then early underground silos across the US. BUT they kept their Jupiters in Turkey. The USSR had its Semyorka, it's first R-7 ICBM that it launched Sputnik and then Yuri Gagarin and the other manned space missions with, but it was too big and cumbersome to ever be put into silos and they had only a few of them, and they were highly vulnerable since they launched from surface pads. The Soviets had undertaken a crash program to develop more survivable silo-based ICBM's, ones which also had faster response time and could stand on alert for long periods, using storable hypergolic liquid propellants rather than the volatile supercold liquid oxygen of the R-7 (and Atlas and Titan I as well, the US started its own program called "Titan II" to develop storable liquid propellant missiles, as well as solid propellant which the Soviets didn't have the technology to build advanced large solid propellant motors at the time). This led to the R-9 missile which accidentally exploded on the pad in 1960 in the so-called "Nedelin disaster" where several hundred scientists and technicians, as well as the newly-appointed head of the Soviet Strategic Rocket Forces Marshal Nedelin, were incinerated when a malfunctioning R-9 was being serviced on the pad without defueling it, in order not to delay a test launch the Marshal was insisting go off on time, despite ignoring safety protocols. By 1962, the Soviets were still BADLY behind in the missile race, in fact they had only about a couple dozen missiles capable of hitting the USA from the USSR, while the USA had over 300 Atlas and Titan missiles in service. The Soviets couldn't measure up against the Strategic Air Command (SAC) at the height of its power as well, and the few diesel submarines it had were only armed with 3 storable liquid fuel missiles each, which could only be launched from surfaced subs standing still at station keeping, where US Polaris solid propellant missiles could be launched from submerged US subs which carried 16 missiles each. Both the USA and the USSR KNEW FULL WELL that if it came to a nuclear war in 1962 over the Cuban Missile Crisis, the USSR would cease to exist, and they could utterly destroy Europe in the process, but the USA would only get a few dozen nuclear hits on the continental USA in the attack, as Russian bombers would have to run the gauntlet of defensive interceptor missiles like Nike Ajax and BOMARC and various interceptors like Scorpions armed with Genie nuclear air/air missiles designed to obliterate entire formations of Soviet bombers. Their few ICBM's and SLBM's could give the USA quite a punch, but certainly no knockout blow. WHICH is why the USA felt totally compelled to force the Soviet's hand by threatening nuclear attack over the missiles in Cuba, risking an illegal naval blockade of Cuba and various other escalatory and provocational actions in order to force the Soviets to withdraw the missiles. The Soviets, understanding that their hand had been called and they'd come up woefully short if it came to a nuclear war, decided to simply accept that loss of face and remove their missiles from Cuba. Kennedy, realizing how close the world had come, offered the Soviets a deal by agreeing to remove the Jupiter missiles from Turkey, which had in fact set the precedent of forward-deploying nuclear-capable missiles that had threatened the Soviets in a very destabilizing "launch on warning" situation, and which led to the Soviets feeling they were justified to do the exact same thing to the Americans to "level the playing field" until their own next generation ICBM's were ready. The whole affair led to the ouster of Khrushchev, but it also made up the Soviet's minds NEVER to be caught in an inferior position again, and they redoubled their efforts to build more advanced and more numerous nuclear missiles and weapons than the US had and to match them capability for capability, always with at least similar if not superior numbers and capabilities, than anything the USA would ever field. By the 1970's they had surpassed the USA and could devastate the entire North American continent in 30 minutes at the press of a button.

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