Yes, we need this.

Agreed!

Shure Aonic 50 and MW65 should be on the list.

Would really be interesting

Yes plzz

I tried it but it doesn't even come close to the DT770 or DT990 in terms of sound. K245 are also nice portable headphones compared to the K361 but they're open back. Similar price, but metal build instead of plastic.

Why can't all the audiophiles of planet Earth just get together and decide definitively which headphones are the best. Talk about a confusing topic!

@@Drinkyoghurt I think I'll just get a bluetooth adapter for one of my IEMs lol

@@Wishwader bc sound is subjective and depending on what you like, you might want different sound signatures.

@@Wishwader I think most audiophiles will agree it's the HE-1

Most reviews for the these bad actually.. And having tried them.. I can confirm that this reviewer is either being paid or just comes his pants for apple 🍏 😂 👉.. The sound on them is terrible! They are not even the best compared to ANC headphones as he claims! The Xm4s shit on them from a hight and the Drop Pandas 🐼 decimate! Them if you don't care for ANC (though they do an excellent! Job passively).. Lesson to be learned, don't trust reviewers that review from there bedroom's.. Apple shill 👉

@@Austintatious_One wow, you really hate apple product huh? what a sad life, you must be missing out

@@shzammpatapon9865 Well i am a technician.. So i am qualified to say that i know better.. Pay double for less if you want 😉 👉

@@Austintatious_One no you're not even a technician. people here do not even trust you have hear both of them. the industry already agreed that airpods max has the best anc.

@@Austintatious_One I mean, it's not like this video sold me on any headphones. I daily a THX 789 with HD6XX and 1990s, it's not like I'm expecting to be blown away by the sound of the Airpod Max. I'm just appreciating the amount of effort that went into this video from DMS, including way more comparisons, even with more consumer products. I've personally never heard the Max's nor the XM4's, and from their reviews, I probably never will. For a self-proclaimed technician, you really seem to disregard the technological advantage that Apple put into these headphones, namely their high quality DSP. In a similar vein, the Pandas put R&D into the amplifier and similarly priced wired have more effort put into the drivers and housing. I agree that it likely doesn't compare well to similarly price wired, or a more audio focused bluetooth like the Pandas, but that's not the target audience for these. Like, I don't think they're worth the asking price, but it's Apple, so they priced it that way because they know their target audience. They're a business, so they just have their priorities, even though they do a bunch of bullshit on the side. But ultimately, sound is subjective. Even though Beats' build and sound to the audiophile community are considered absolutely trash, some people genuinely enjoy them and that's fine. If someone enjoys a product, that's fine. Just take their word with the understanding of what their preferred sound signature is and interpret it to what you see fit. If someone takes the words of a single reviewer, then honestly, that's on them. There's just no way for a single reviewer to cover every single idiosyncrasy of a product in a review period. And there's also just some characteristics some reviewers notice better than others, so it's just a matter of find which ones align with what you're looking for. I couldn't give a shit if you did reviews in a bathroom sink, as long as it's a fair review. Also, you seemed more biased than any reviewer I've seen coming from that tone. Not really sure who you're expecting to win over with a comment like that. Grammar is also a dumpster fire and you used way too many emotes, my guy.

It’s almost like kissing ass is how they think apple will send them free shit to review

@@adams5389 a majority of the reviews have said it's not really worth it 💀 especially when compared to others so idk how that is kissing ass

Tech reviewers are VERY bad source of review for audio products. A huge bump in ATH M50x sales was because Mkbhd hyped them up so much, but M50x's are so basic and there are so many better options for audio than M50x. Even AT's own M40x which are cheaper sound better than M50x. But hey, tech reviewer preached so it must be good amirite?

@@thecompanioncube4211 Agree with you, he almost sold me M50x but I did research it further and finally bought DT990 because of its soundstage and sound seperation, they're sharp but I turned those spikes down with equalizer apo. With sonarworks reference 4 trial, they really sounded awesome.

What are you talking about. This guy treats the main feature (noise cancellation) as just a gadget when reviewing the product. The AirPods Max are not for audiophiles, they are noise cancelling headphones. So it's ridiculous to compare it to non noise cancelling headphones.

What usually hurts for you when wearing headphones? My dumb ears stick out so I’m constantly having pain after awhile using most over ears. Haven’t tried the QC35 II’s tho. Curious if you are similar to me and what other headphones you’ve tested.

Having owned the majority of the headphones mentioned in this video, the QC35’s are the most comfortable headphone I have ever owned, bar-none. I agree that the NC700 has a shallow ear cup problem, and that alone is the only reason the new QC45 exists.

Confirmation bias. This is the first and only AirPods Max review that is negative. Probably you’re a Apple hating troll, so you think everything else is meaningless, only the one that confirms your bias is actually meaningful. The reality is, DMS is pandering. Even though he says these are the BEST ANC headphones in terms of noise canceling and sound, which are the most important things, he paints the review in a negative tone, so that he can pander to haters. Dishonest and disappointing...

@@Gokhanaj Your level of emotion is hilarious. This is the first review that doesn't just say "they sound great! Better than XM4s", which isn't terribly useful

@@Gokhanaj it's the only review by somebody deeply embedded in the high end audio world. A review by somebody who cares more about the music and the experience than the fact that Apple made it.

@@Gokhanaj so DMS is `Dishonest` because he tells the truth and in detail :o

@@Gokhanaj DMS explained how the driver sounded in massive detail, and compared it to a variety of different headphones. He gave a thorough dive into these headphones in a manner in which I haven't seen another reviewer do before. Many other reviewers simply compared them to the XM4's and called it a day which is not at all helpful. All that matters is the build, the feature set, and a deep explanation of the sound. Which is something DMS clearly did in this review.

K361-BT is the best tonally, K371-BT is that but for people who want more bass. Panda wins on detail but is more focused on mid-frequencies. Depends on tuning preferences. Thanks!

Grado GW100 please… love open back and they’re probably a lot lighter. Please review

comfortably wise, how's compare to Bose

Me too!!

“Audiophiles” are trolls. Try the headphones for yourself

@@buckbuckgoose92 Well are you an audiophile? Bc you certainly are a troll ;)

@@buckbuckgoose92 "trolls"?? Sounds like you

@@clickbaitpro I definitely am 🤷🏻‍♂️

No but really you should probably try the headphones yourself instead of listening to others. With an open mind also. Something that is apparently hard for people. Making a headphone sound good and have great noise canceling is difficult. Of course they will sound better without implementing anc

Kph30i and a es100 I know this wasn’t the exact answer you were looking for, but trust me 😄

if we're talking wireless and non-anc. K361-BT is the best value. K371-BT if you like more bass.

Short batt life, my only gripe with this.

As an aside - for audio editing are their a good set of headphones that you would suggest?

How the XM4 feel compared to the HD 6xx? I have the HD 6xx and was considering buying an ANC headphone.

@@panzer3279 it sounds good after you EQ it. It is very bassy out of the box, but the great feature of the XM4 is the it includes a pretty decent EQ system, so you can change the sound of your unit to your liking. It also works best on an an android phone which you are able to use the LDAC Codec which can stream Bluetooth signals up to 990 kbps. This let's you take advantage of being able to stream HIFI music from apps like Tidal or Amazon HD and get the best sound out of it. If using an IPhone your limited to AAC codec which is 256 kbp a much lower streaming bit rate. Though not as good Sony does compensate for this in there app but usind a function called AAC Extreme to better the sound quality. Though you will never get the sound quality of the HD 6xx, for a bluetooth device you get really good sound you can adjust to you liking. Most reviews don't give you all this information, they review out of box without making the adjustments to make it sound even better, that what Sony offers thats no one else does. As for ANC, pretty much the best

@@panzer3279 lol... Misread the first time, they are pretty comfortable

@@RayCabrera1 Thanks! I might just get the XM4, save $250, and buy a better amp for the 6xx.

@@panzer3279 I use the IFI ZEN CAN Amp with ZEN DAC stack. It works well for me.

the lesson we learn from this video, don't buy any apple product. It's shit.

@@jessicahyde8461 tell me which apple products youve ever owned

'changes and represents the music as the artist intended' literally impossible claim unless they have consulted with every single producer both dead and alive on how each track is meant to sound.

HIFI Insider also loves how ALL the Beats headphones sound.... Generally found him to fall for the marketing a lot.

The DAC isn't anything special. It's limited to 320kb/s (mp3 quality). The DSP is cool by contrast but "as the artist intended" is a huge stretch. If we're talking wired headphones, there's significantly better closed-backs from the $99 K361 to the Focal Elegia, to many of the ZMF products. That said, everyone has a right to their opinion.

Yes, he does see to be a Apple fan boy, he even has Nicki Minaj pink version, how sad is that! Plus his comments about the Artists music is just ridiculous! Also his comments about the settings in the Sony WM1Z are bizarre, those settings give the user a option. I have the Sony XM3 and when I use LDAC via Bluetooth with my Sony WM1Z it sounds great and I have no problem with my Bluetooth connection so don’t no what he is on, plus it sounds much better than my IPhone using AAC codec from Apple that’s for sure. Even Bluetooth from my Sony WM1Z to my Chord Hugo 2 sounds fantastic so not sure what he is on about. Although my £500 Noble K10 from Drop don’t have ANC and Bluetooth once I press play on any of my devices I can’t hear anything and if I want to hear anyone speak to me I just press pause but more importantly every time I listen to music it’s puts a smile on my face and I am listening to fantastic sounding music for the same price as them Apple Headphones. I would recommend people purchase a second hand Campfire Audio Cascade , Dan Clark Aeon 2 or the Focal Elegia with £300 off at present or a second hand Campfire Andromeda if they want to hear want music can really sound like.

Panda has more detail and a way better amp/dac internally but K361-BT is better tuned tonally. I prefer the K361-BT in most cases personally, but the panda always surprises me.

Thank you for the time and effort you put into replying to comments :) (Not to mention the videos themselves which are consistently thorough and enjoyable as it is).

Trust your ears mate. Reviews are great and all, and these guys have better DACs and amps than most of us are ever gonna spend, for testing wired stuff, but sound at the end of the day is still subjective. Your ideal sound signature may not match any one reviewer's, your own hands-on experience is no less valid than anyone else's, and the privilege to have tried both, is a rare one. Or at least, it is to this Ontarian who's been locked down since november

I have both and prefer the H95’s sound signature. The Max have too much of a U sound and the sub bass on the h95 is better. You can also customize the H95’s sound more than the Max.

Now that Apple has introduced $549 headphones and has proven that many people will buy it at that price, most likely, Sony and Bose will feel comfortable raising their next headphones prices to that too. Or close to that.

@@edwardandeli ye people just stupidly copy apple for no damn reason

@@kcguitar9307 Haha, no, not for no reason. For business purposes, profit, capitalism--all that jazz. It's kind of funny, because usually more competition means cheaper prices for the consumer, except in this situation, it's the opposite. When Apple raised their flagship iPhone price to $1k, other companies copied. I think the same for the headphones game.

@@edwardandeli ya its for their profit ofcuz..what i dont like tho is that they will tease Apple for that

@@edwardandeli Didn’t Samsung set the 1K price first ? Apple then copied Samsung selling old tech for new price eh

You can cancel the order and demand a refund.

While IEMs are great for blocking out noise, they're just not comfortable for some people, especially for long hours. I know I'd much rather have over-ears if I'll be wearing them for a long stretch of time

see if i'm on a plane, it's usually flying from Toronto to Singapore. that's maybe 21 hrs aloft depending on (and not counting) layovers. I sleep best with silence, and I've never had a pair of IEMs with passive isolation that rivals ANC. while Sony WF-1000XM3s worked decent, let me get comfier in an economy class seat, and actually sound nicer than WH-1000XM3s (imho), They're harder to get a good seal with vs literally any other IEM or over-ear and the only time i can wear WFs for hours on end, is if I'm also on a bike, in which case, i have music to distract me and things that hurt more than my ears. SE-215s and ZS10 pros i can wear for longer without discomfort, but again, they don't isolate like WH-1000xm3s or any other quality ANC over-ear.

I have the CCA C10 IEMs and the QC35’s. While the C10 is a fantastic budget IEM, the Bose are infinitely more comfortable. They’re also wireless and pair to two of my devices and I can use them for calls. So, yea. That’s my 2 cents.

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last time i checked apple will replace it for you if it's faulty. being unrepairable doesn't make its customer support bad

Like a board swap for a loosen backlight cable lol

@@the0000alex0000 intentionally making it unrepairable so that you have to go to an Apple store or wait a minimum of 3 weeks to send your device by courier. I love my apple products but stop being the corporate defense force for this Trillion dollar corporation. Apple is a trend setter in the industry and not designing their products to be repairable is a cynical, anti-consumer trend. Anti-consumer practices are the epitome of bad customer service.

@@Necropheliac there are for sure problems with apples "right to repair" stance but someones there are clear benefits for making changes that might make the product not repairable.

The Bose are real comfortable and the bass isn’t inflated like the XM4s and I’d say it’s rather decent

Or you could just get a damn iem... forreal though with the right tips they'll isolate the world better than any active noise cancelling headphones hands down.

or the Anker life Q30.. nc is okay but sound is actually very decent. Look up the video by olufs gadget.. not sure how it compares to others than the mx4 tho

@@hal9xxx321 But then you have a pair of IEMs which not everyone wants or can tolerate for long periods.

QC35 are very comfortable non offensive sounding headphones you can wear all day. PXC 550 II are comfortable with a much more refined sound quality. But the ANC is not that great, however block the usual low rumbles of airplane engines. XM4 is the most obnoxious sounding thing ever made with fantastic ANC ( but even your podcasts will sound different)

well airpod max sounds way way better

My granddog!

Second 👍

I personally had never heard of this guy before and I'm glad youtube recommended me this video cuz I really enjoyed it.

After watching MKBHD's video I immediately recommended DMS in the comments. His content is so severely underrated.

I don’t think that apple priced these solely on sound quality.

I don’t think you watched the whole review lol

Only it doesn't have ANC. But apart from that it's superior in every way

Ananda BT is prob better

@@ideoidiom its for a very limited use case and I don't know what it is. Open back headphones can't be for commute and why would you want to do Ananda BT in your living room. Don't get me wrong, I have Anandas and they are one of my favourites and I am in love with that large sound but if I need something when I am out and about Ananda BT is not the answer. I considered Pandas too but lack of ANC is a deal breaker for me when I am travelling. If I want a BT headphone I am compromising sound and that's a deal we all make when we go that route, and after weighing all the options APM are the best deal for me. Can't stand boomy Sony's or characterless Bose.

@@ideoidiom imo Ananda BT is pointless (especially since it has no wired input). Better to go Wired ananda plus a BTR5 or UP4 if you want a wireless openback for home use.

Check out his analog series. It might be mentioned in there.

Again, you wouldn't buy these for sound quality. I have yet to see ANC headphones that could compete with 150 dollar audiophile headphones. It's just futile to even expect these to sound as good as that just because of the price tag.

The lightning cable on a $550 headphone is criminal.

Lmao yeah finally

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/etOTia-Il9DQeXU.html This guy compare these with the big ol' Sennys HD600. What depresses me more was his testing rig, they are really trying so hard to join the Apple bandwagon

@@NovaRay If tested correctly, the HD600 will smoke these toys every day of the week.

Huge advantage