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I have all ways found these HP mins's computers quality and reliable and since Gen 6 the graphics have been good for home and office use and easier to up grade the bios firmware even when using Linux OS .

Tried this recently with a laptop and learned that (many) modern laptops have the memory modules soldered to the system board. No upgrades for you!

@@jimreem1693 Thankfully many of them still list weather they use SODIMM or LPDDR(or sometimes say *GB [soldered])

Totally. We do these TMM pieces based on what is in the box, but there are bigger options that are sold with these. They are especially important when there is a GPU version.

Talked about both in the video. Numbers also in the STH main site srticle

They are Atom boxes though, you can get a lot better bang for less money getting any refurb i5 box than shelling out for Atoms these days.

@@jusia80 Yeah, could have sworn they used to have some i5 boxes but looking over their site seems like they do not. Looks like I'll be picking up one of these other units for our little office computer.

I have been looking for one too, even if used. My guess is that it is something they will do for large orders.

@@ServeTheHomeVideo do you know if other flexport nics are working? The ones from the Z Line as an example. 3TQ26AA and 169K0AA

Would be interesting to see the 35W AMD 8 cores vs the 65W Intel versions.

We have a reader who made one in the forums

@@ServeTheHomeVideo Thanks for this series, it's in part your channel that has helped me get into homelabbing and I am learning a lot of skills I think I will benefit from in my job. I'm a student who wants to go into data science and I ended up getting a tiny-mini-micro machine to run some projects on. I currently have it automating some software I use for web-scraping. For one thing, I feel like it is a lot easier to work with a self-contained computer like this with some expansion options compared to something like a raspberry pi where I would probably need to get some different cases depending on what all I wanted to add and since I'm not much of a maker and don't have a 3d printer I don't think I am good enough at cable management for that not to become something I was constantly have to fuss with. What sold me in the end was that I could add more ram easily, and the fact it could have a better cpu. I had also looked at NUC's but since I am a student I thought they were overpriced on my budget. It was the perfect solution so props to you man.

This goes in a similar spot to the Lenovo P320 Tiny we reviewed. On the MXM side, Alex is editing the video for the HP Z2 Mini G4 (the newer ones are more expensive) and that has a Quadro P1000 MXM.

You should know that if you use the DGPU, you cannot use the second (inner) NVME drive at all as it takes its space.

@@ServeTheHomeVideo Huh. Just flipped through the service manual/system board viewer…the dGPU connector on the board is propietary. Not sure if it’s also propietary on the board-side, but very likely is. Not surprised about the z2 Minis being much more expensive…they run Xeon-W compatible chipsets and can take ECC SODIMMs (something the Lenovo pTinys can’t do).

@@10p6 ooooog. That’s not quite bueno. Any idea if HP gives you the full PCIe 3.0x16 on that dGPU, or is x4/x8 only?

@@Waaaaaaaaaaaang I have no idea. DGPU have been supported from at least the G4 models, but with slower AMD GPU.

We may as we get to newer units. The original goal of TMM was to look at used units that were often much less expensive than getting a barebones and then building them. Over the last year the series has shifted so this may make sense.

64GB of memory most 8th Gen Intel and newer Ryzen platforms support (2x 32GB). SD card we have not seen on these. You are going to end up using a USB reader.

@@ServeTheHomeVideo Yes, it is why I stay with the older skull case, but look time to time if something changed.

HP has specific GPUs sized for these machines.

Well over a decade ago companies realized that a tower takes up say 2-3+ sq ft. Small units like these can be mounted on a monitor and save desk/ cubicle volume. In turn that means more desks per square foot of office space. That real estate savings was more than the PC was worth. Plus PCs this size got fast enough that for most office desktop scenarios this is all that was needed.

@@ServeTheHomeVideo I get where you're coming from, but wouldn't any desk be wide enough to accommodate 2 legs and a mid-sized tower? Really odd. They also don't look like the really small kind you can mount to a monitor, do they have a VESA mount? (Might be an American thing, we usually don't do cubicles in Europe, so a desk would be like anywhere from 65" to 75" which leaves plenty of space.)

@@Noodles.FreeUkraine At my old office, we had EliteDesk 800 G1 SFF. HP specifically designed monitor stands with Vesa adapters for these to click in. They were used to get us off of ancient Wyse thin-clients.

@@zoomzabba452 Thanks for chiming in. I guess having it as a unit that includes the monitor makes it easier to service and keep around for sure, that makes sense.

It is set to English. No idea.

This will use standard Intel storage and chipset drivers

@@ServeTheHomeVideo thank you very much

Alex is editing the Z2 Mini G4 video but it has the Quadro P1000 MXM

I don't remember for sure, but I believe at least older MXM standard had vBIOS and stuff baked into system BIOS, so compatibility *could* be iffy other than what's officially supported.

@@ServeTheHomeVideo Niceeee. P.S.: You getting rid of when done? I'm interested ,)

The challenge is that these are all configurable processors so often there are 10-20 options.

@@ServeTheHomeVideo Maybe you could state the entire hardware specification of the unit you are reviewing somewhere in the beginning of the video 😉.

Fixed thanks!

There's a 1660Ti version though.