Service Trailer Brake U1556 - LIN Bus Diagnostics

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DadsGarage Diagnostic Specialist

DadsGarage Diagnostic Specialist

Күн бұрын

Customer states service trailer brake system message on drivers information center DIC.
Customer states he never tows or plugs in the trailer connector.
This particular failure applies to Chevrolet GMC Suburban Yukon Sierra Silverado.
LIN networks function similar on other makes, so diagnosis would be similar.
Linear interconnect network LIN failure to communicate between chassis control module and trailer brake system module.
CCM code U1556
#mechanic #cars #professional #tipsandtricks

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@user-rl8cy8wc6q
@user-rl8cy8wc6q Жыл бұрын
Very informative! Great work this video deserves a lot of recognition for all the time and effort you put into explaining every detail!
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Austen! Much appreciated!
@dreece2000
@dreece2000 10 ай бұрын
Yeah you’re a dying breed. It’s only gonna help people that are already familiar with a few things
@fixitman8028
@fixitman8028 4 ай бұрын
Excellent video! Thanks for sharing this. Great job with the breakdown on the schematics. Simple to follow and understand with your explanations
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist 4 ай бұрын
Thank you very much, glad you enjoyed it!
@user-ty1gh3fv2k
@user-ty1gh3fv2k 9 ай бұрын
Thank you SO MUCH!! Replacing the trailer brake control module fixed my issue. My trailer brakes work again and no warning light!!
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist 9 ай бұрын
That’s wonderful! Thanks for sharing!
@alexanderdiaz1228
@alexanderdiaz1228 8 ай бұрын
Great video, thank you very much!
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@chipper2462
@chipper2462 13 күн бұрын
Ha...I actually dragged my digital oscilloscope out to garage and performed that test. Pattern looks just like yours...I ordered a module and am going to try it.
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist 13 күн бұрын
That’s awesome! Be sure to check power and ground to the module also. Thanks.
@ReadySetAutismFamily
@ReadySetAutismFamily 27 күн бұрын
Such a good video that it's not even what I'm looking for but i watched the whole video because it was very interesting. We are having 3 lights come on at the same time. At 1st it was intermittent but now it's every time you start the truck. 2017 Silverado 2500hd 6.0L Service Trailer Brake, Service Stabilitrak & ABS light are all on. It seem to happen after washing frame areas under truck. Do you think it could be trailer brake control module?
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist 27 күн бұрын
Most likely something got water into the connector. It would need to be diagnosed and you’d need to know what codes are setting. Thank you very much.
@Fetherko
@Fetherko 3 ай бұрын
The trailer message appears intermittently. I clear it 5 times, then won't see it for days. It happens when towing or when not towing. The dealer found no error codes with the scan tool. They can't work on it until Monday. Our campground reservation is over . We will be somewhere else upstate on Monday. In 7 days, we have 600 miles of driving to get home. I don't know how a GM dealer is going to manage an intermittent error. Should I just drive to a dealer in the next town and tell them to swap the trailering module? Other videos had a truck owner swapping the dashboard control. Braking seems normal. The 3000 pound trailer doesn't push us around. I could try to skid when we hook up. My diagnostic tool is a cheap volt-ohm-meter. Got pliers, strippers & a soldering iron! Going to test the braking pin on the 7 pin connector.
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist 3 ай бұрын
Well, it kind of depends on what the fault is when the fault messages present… if the trailer brake control module is communicating and reports a code for you to diagnose go after that. Or what I had going on in this video… The trailer brake control module wasn’t communicating at all and the module was faulty. I also see corroded wiring more often than anything else… About 6 to 12 inches from the module connector usually. If I were to suspect corroded wiring… I could disconnect both ends of the circuit and load test with a headlight bulb while measuring voltage drop to accurately measure determine whether that was a problem or not. Load test the power, ground, and LIN circuit. You can test with the ohm meter in the same way, but it won’t be as accurate because there won’t be any load on the wiring… that’s where a dealer tech will usually miss this because service information tells them to test everything with ohms. Intermittent wiring faults can be difficult to diagnose if it’s not acting up, but it takes a strategy of laying a trap where you think the problem may show up. Edit: another thing is that if the problem is intermittent it is unlikely to be a faulty module and more likely to be something like wiring or a trailer brake control switch code maybe. Thanks.
@paulgibbs8194
@paulgibbs8194 13 күн бұрын
How many techs at the dealer actually do this vs. just slapping a new module in? Mine is sporadically throwing an error with the annoying, super insistant beep that just keeps going when it starts up. Dealer quoted $700 …
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist 12 күн бұрын
I’m not sure, but it’s a fast and easy way to be sure. It’s an expensive guess if they’re not testing it. Wiring faults are common enough on those that it should definitely be tested. Thanks.
@Ransome2501
@Ransome2501 Жыл бұрын
novice here. thanks for video. i noticed you didn't disconnect the battery when you first disconnected the module but only when to unbolted module from frame. was that necessary and i wish you would do a very close up of releasing the brake module plug tab without breaking it.
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist Жыл бұрын
I left the battery connected so I could do testing. Then I disconnected the battery when connecting the new one just to be extra safe and not get blamed for destroying a new expensive module lol. At 6:00 I take the connector off the module…It’s not a real close up view, but you can see how I remove it, there is a little red tab to pull out first as shown, usually dirt and dust really makes these connections stuck. Thank you for commenting!
@seancallahan8306
@seancallahan8306 8 ай бұрын
if you dont have power to the control mod and fuses are good can you tell me where the ground is
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist 8 ай бұрын
G400 is located on top of the rear frame crossmember above the spare tire. Closer to the left side of the vehicle. If you have no power at the module and the fuses are good… Check for green crusty broken wires starting at the connector. It is common to find corroded and broken wires within 24” of the connector. Thanks.
@gn5673
@gn5673 7 ай бұрын
Does this only apply to trucks with the factory trailer brake controller or even with aftermarket brake controllers?
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist 7 ай бұрын
This applies to the factory trailer brake system. Thank you
@sakmiller
@sakmiller 5 ай бұрын
Hello, I am having The same issue with my 14 Sierra. I want to test the LIN, where can I find the pin out so I make sure I test the right wire? I would be using the continuity and ohm method. Thanks!
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist 5 ай бұрын
Try AllData DIY or something similar, you can purchase the service manual for a single vehicle at a pretty good price. Thanks.
@philh9238
@philh9238 11 ай бұрын
So gm finally using pico?? I didn’t think dealers used scopes really
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist 11 ай бұрын
When I started at the dealer I asked if they had a scope and they said no. I was browsing the tool room one day and found a dusty box labeled “NVH kit”… I opened it and found a BRAND NEW never-used pico and I was amazed to find they had this extremely powerful tool and not even known it nor using it. Turns out GM was only using the Pico for vibration analysis for years….yet if you order the lead set for it, you can use it as a regular scope. And that’s what I did. The NVH vibration analysis software is amazing also….I have a video showing the NVH software to find a dash buzz. In recent years GM has begun including Pico diagnosis in service information, but not much in my experience. Also they’ve begun a lot more Pico based training in the last couple years. Thank you for commenting.
@perrybeede9498
@perrybeede9498 4 ай бұрын
Great video. Question, this will not throw a check engine light, correct? Only asking because my 2018 silverado is doing a similar situation and now I cannot start the truck remotely, assuming because this fault. I tried the dash switch, no luck. Cleaned the connection up on module.. I'll be ordering a module
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist 4 ай бұрын
No, this will not cause a check engine light. The remote start is probably disabled because of a stored engine trouble code even if the light is not on yet. Crusty wiring is common to cause the trailer brake fault message also so verify there isn’t a wiring problem before replacing the module. Thanks.
@perrybeede9498
@perrybeede9498 4 ай бұрын
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist very helpful! I have no way to test the Lin, other than a ohm test, as mentioned in another comment. I love GM, but this is ridiculous. Let's change the location for 2025 ha ha. It's like, leaking 3rd brake light, back sliding windows, shark fin antenna. But I do love Gm. Lol
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist 4 ай бұрын
@@perrybeede9498 I covered that in the video 11:17 If the ohm test is ok and no shorts then most likely it’s the module yes.
@perrybeede9498
@perrybeede9498 4 ай бұрын
@@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist thank you!
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist 4 ай бұрын
@perrybeede9498 you are welcome
@Fetherko
@Fetherko 3 ай бұрын
How is a LIN circuit different from the CAN bus?
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist 3 ай бұрын
Well a high speed CAN network is a 2-wire twisted pair that operates at about 1.5V-3.5V and the signals mirror each other. There are also single wire CAN networks that operate at about 0V-5V. On CAN networks each module can individually communicate. A LIN network is a single wire network that operates at about 1V-11V and is set up as a master/slave arrangement with one master module supplying the reference voltage and the slave devices simply taking orders and sending information back to the master module. Thanks.
@Fetherko
@Fetherko 3 ай бұрын
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist ok. To reiterate, the LIN network communicates to perform some specific task. Here it is telling the trailer module to actuate the trailer brakes. I have a another question about intermittent errors. I will ask in another thread. Thank you.
@petitogaming5659
@petitogaming5659 9 ай бұрын
I have the same code in a 14 sierra. Replaced the module, checked for ground and power, and still doesn’t disappear. Also work for GM
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist 9 ай бұрын
I have been seeing rotten corroded wiring fairly often as well… About 6 to 12 inches away from the trailer control module connector usually. 11:30 in the video I talk about testing the LIN circuit with a DVOM. Did you measure LIN circuit resistance end to end and also check for shorts? With the trailer power control, module, disconnected, and the key on… The LIN circuit should rest at about 1V lower than battery voltage…. That confirms the wire is intact and the master module is supplying the LIN reference voltage. If that is what you find, test resistance end to end and you may find a corroded wire on the LIN circuit most likely. Being at a General Motors dealership, you should also have access to the Pico scope. Thanks.
@petitogaming5659
@petitogaming5659 9 ай бұрын
Will test again and will get back to you 👍
@petitogaming5659
@petitogaming5659 9 ай бұрын
I also happened to do was use the GM trailer simulator. And all lights/ functions operated as intended.
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist 9 ай бұрын
@@petitogaming5659 sounds good. Also check out PIT5698C for some good information about LIN network diagnostics.
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist
@DadsGarageDiagnosticSpecialist 9 ай бұрын
@@petitogaming5659 the trailer lights and the trailer brakes are on different circuits and handled by different modules. U1556 implies the chassis control module cannot communicate with the trailer brake power module. You said power and ground was OK so most likely the fault is on the LIN circuit.
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