Do Eagles or Chiefs have the brighter future? | NFL | SPEAK
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Жыл бұрынThe Kansas City Chiefs are Super Bowl LVII champions with Patrick Mahomes as MVP. Mahomes is 27 years old and is in the GOAT conversation, but Jalen Hurts is only 24 years old and played the game of his life with the exception of the fumble return TD. He was named a second-team All-Pro and had four total touchdowns in the Super Bowl. Both QBs are accomplished and still young but which team has the brighter future? Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor and David Helman debate whether the Chiefs or Eagles have the brighter future.
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@Wakandanlandlord Жыл бұрын
Blah blah blah. Eagles frauds.
@tribehasspoken4038 Жыл бұрын
We already know what he will say “ Mahomes deserves no credit the eagles choked “
@maqsudlatif3266 Жыл бұрын
Joy is annoying please kick her out
@lt5324 4 ай бұрын
@@tribehasspoken4038 This was a great part of Speak. Spoke future in this one. Nice
@lifeforms7423 Жыл бұрын
The Chiefs already won a SB with the 7th youngest roster in the entire league and they had the 3rd most rookies playing, only the Bears and Texans had more rookies playing. Plus they have cap space, a ton of picks, and Mahomes is already signed. Plus not many teams draft better than they do.
@ITACHI-hr8eu Жыл бұрын
we need some better defenders on the back field definitely aside from that we lit
@mylespoun9709 Жыл бұрын
We also need some depth at tackle cause I do not want to pay Brown 20 million a year. Need more defensive line help as well
@topdawg1551 Жыл бұрын
@@mylespoun9709 Brown will get signed
@K.C.C.L Жыл бұрын
What cap space?
@brandonmccallum4755 Жыл бұрын
None of that matters as long as they have mahomes, kelce, reid
@onliwankannoli Жыл бұрын
A loss for the Chiefs next season that’s not being talked about is backup QB Chad Henne, who is retiring. On the rare times he’s played, he delivered, such as leading a 98 yard drive when Mahomes hurt his ankle in the playoffs. Might not make the headlines, but Chiefs fans love the guy.
@MrBstacks100 Жыл бұрын
We'll be ok without Henne
@onliwankannoli Жыл бұрын
@@MrBstacks100 It’s not that I’m worried, but grateful for the way he came through when we’ve needed him. He’s been a great help to Mahomes too.
@MrBstacks100 Жыл бұрын
@@onliwankannoli I agree.
@kennethcadwell2124 Жыл бұрын
He was a great backup and yes us Chief's fans loved him for what he did in Mahome's absence. But he was not the only backup who played great for the Chief's......... Matt Moore came in starting 3 games against Packers, Vikings, and Bronco's in 2019. He went 2-1 in those games......... So Andy Reid finds very capable backups..........
@ishyameru6232 Жыл бұрын
Playoff Chad will be missed
@julianwatts9024 Жыл бұрын
As long as Travis “ I’m always open by 10 yrds” Kelse and Andy “I’ll scheme your grandm open” Reid are with Patrick “ never die” Mahomes the chiefs will be the favorite.
@keithfarley15 Жыл бұрын
I love it 😂
@spomusmo2349 Жыл бұрын
Well said 😄
@johnnybeatmaker330 Жыл бұрын
Kelce got about 3 more yeas. They need a 1 wr and a back up Te
@ishyameru6232 Жыл бұрын
@@johnnybeatmaker330 we have two back up tight ends we’re fine at that spot
@johnnybeatmaker330 Жыл бұрын
@@ishyameru6232 I'm talking to replace kelce. And to do some two Te new England stuff.
@BigRed22_KC Жыл бұрын
Easily KC. Played 8 rookies this year and 6 of them played the whole SB. 11 draft picks plus some cap. Payed Mahomes at the right time on a genius 10 year deal with endless restructures. Young players will only get better and we have assets to make big moves if we want.
@lakeozarkrei3767 Жыл бұрын
💯
@williamallen7984 Жыл бұрын
Plus, I think Pat knows he can pull the TB12 and take less money to win more titles and make it up in endorsements
@travisoshea Жыл бұрын
It's not even close
@Milkdejean Жыл бұрын
Most of those rookies were on defense and your defense wasn’t anything special all year and of those 11 picks most are 6th rounders which isn’t really impressive
@lakeozarkrei3767 Жыл бұрын
@TOP G HOWIE Dam... why do clowns like you even post comments?😅 Chiefs defense was Top 5 the last 9 weeks of the season... they finished #8 against the run (as the Eagles found out) and 15th against the pass. And they were drafted Two 1sts, a 2nd, a 4th and a 7th... not a single 6th rounder... Seriously kid... you realize you CAN Google before posting a Comment and embarrassing yourself... right?🤡😅
@phillyjackson45 Жыл бұрын
Hearing Hurts today, he sounds hungry to run it back. His year 4 will be glorious 💯
@NatureBoii99 Жыл бұрын
Hurts should run the NFC
@jaysonsmith7264 Жыл бұрын
sounds exactly like what we heard abt josh allen
@dallasjackson4866 Жыл бұрын
@@jaysonsmith7264 Josh Allen never made it to the Super Bowl in his 3rd year and ball out.
@felixbruno7937 Жыл бұрын
@@jaysonsmith7264 Not exactly.
@princecheck11 Жыл бұрын
@@jaysonsmith7264 dont ever compare josh allen a fraud
@slimsneak205 Жыл бұрын
Both teams got a bright future. Can definitely see a SB rematch within the next three years
@javarzshinall9396 Жыл бұрын
You got to love both QBs this year
@Anthony-yu5yz Жыл бұрын
Mahomes is already a first ballet Hall of Famer. The Chiefs will continue to improve their roster. And he can just hit cruise control.
@nickim6571 Жыл бұрын
@@user-sh2sc6bu8x 😁😁Yes, he does, just watch him dance away from defenders.
@jeanfourcade Жыл бұрын
The chiefs are a philharmonic orchestra: Reid, the master composer, and Mahomes the master conductor, elevating all and any new musician around them to virtuoso performance. Win or lose the next ones isn't really the question, they are the team which sets the tune for all.
@googus2110 Жыл бұрын
We got to see a sliver of this Chiefs team potential this season and it’s only gonna get crazier. Pacheco is crazy good.
@byroncaffey491 Жыл бұрын
Pacheco saved them all season 💯
@jasonfisher5320 Жыл бұрын
Honestly the whole 2022 draft saved them as they evolved and got better throughout the year
@btbarr16 Жыл бұрын
I said at the beginning of the season that losing Hill, and adding MVS, JuJu, Watson, and Moore lowered the ceiling of the receiver room, but raised the floor. We saw that all year.
@brandoncomer6492 Жыл бұрын
All the young QB talent that is playing on rookie contracts are about to be paid. Burrow, Lawrence, Hurts, Herbert, Jackson. Allen got paid and now the bills are in a real bind this off-season. To me that’s the thing that really showcases how good of a spot the chiefs are in. They made that transmission and are still beating the teams with better rosters already.
@matthewmartin9198 Жыл бұрын
Agree once those contracts get signed those qbs will be hard pressed to maintain their rosters. Thus Chiefs gain and benefit big time.
@jasonfisher5320 Жыл бұрын
Its all about our last 3 drafts that has made this team go
@derekmathews1557 Жыл бұрын
Our last four drafts have been amazing.
@ecpracticesquad4674 Жыл бұрын
I’m a huge Mahomes fanboy but that O-line gave Philly the business. This was about as total a team win as I’ve seen in a LONG time.
@N0limitJames Жыл бұрын
Man. The O line gave the eagles the biggest work I’ve ever seen. In a whole. Wylie played his career game. He heard the talking. And showed up.
@bren2k5 Жыл бұрын
Eagles edge rushers were slipping on every play
@cristobalgomez5238 Жыл бұрын
Eagles defensive front was slipping all over the field not to mention jg called the worst defensive game I ever seen but I already knew he would cause he’s a bum 🤦🏽♂️
@mikeblev427 Жыл бұрын
I would say both O-Lines pretty much dominated in the trenches. You don't go on long play drives like that where a defense is good. Both defenses were honestly pretty pathetic in the super bowl
@davidjudd951 Жыл бұрын
O-line deserved the MVP trophy.
@thatstheway2429 Жыл бұрын
Dismissing Chris Jones is ridiculous. Dude is a top 3 defensive player in the league, and they’re not even playing without his AFC Championship performance against Burrow. I love Mahomes as much as any Chiefs fan, but CJ is right up there in his importance to the team as Kelce is.
@maxjulien188 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, however the Chiefs could win another SB without Chris Jones, but they definitely cannot win it without Mahomes or Kelce, especially Mahomes.
@K.C.C.L Жыл бұрын
Yeah,they really acting like the defense didnt bail out the offense in that afc championship game lol. Chris jones came through and was mvp of that game
@thatstheway2429 Жыл бұрын
@@maxjulien188 oh I’m not debating that. As long as Mahomes is the QB the Super Bowl window is open. But Acho was saying they could have won without CJ, and with a hobbled Mahomes two weeks ago the defense was what got us the Arizona.
@maxjulien188 Жыл бұрын
@@thatstheway2429 Yes agreed, however a lot of people are saying that missed calls and bad calls by the refs got the Chiefs to the Superbowl, and even won them another Superbowl.
@thatstheway2429 Жыл бұрын
@@maxjulien188 a lot of people are fools
@zregory Жыл бұрын
The Chiefs will be a free agent destination for a lot of players as long as Patrick Lavon Mahomes II is there
@PopePlatinumBeats Жыл бұрын
uhh so will PHILLY.... this EAGLES CHIEFS thing may go on for years
@ryanhansen1325 Жыл бұрын
@@PopePlatinumBeatsnah Chiefs are the cream of the crop. Eagles played the easiest schedule in the regular season and playoffs.
@ZA-yt7ok Жыл бұрын
@@ryanhansen1325suck a duck
@ju17e Жыл бұрын
@@PopePlatinumBeats you gonna see how the eagles just fall apart after this year
@PopePlatinumBeats Жыл бұрын
@juice7145 maybe the eagles fall apart... but i will come for u if they don't
@randyharrington3005 Жыл бұрын
3 years ago when Kelce sat out a play when injured, and Bell stepped in.....the very next play Bell had a pass laid so gently into his hands as he turned to catch it for an easy touchdown.... Bell had been in the NFL for 5 years, and this was his first touchdown, It was easy, and it was delivered by MaHomes, I told my wife ight then, it doesn;t matter who plays with Mahomes, he will feed them.....and it took this year to prove it. Minus Tyreke and feeding all the rookies.....
@halwa9528 Жыл бұрын
The Texans comeback, really kick-starting the goat legacy lmao
@scottmahurin3567 Жыл бұрын
Mahomes dissected a top 10 Denver defense as a rookie playing with KC's scrubs. I knew THEN it didn't matter. He became spoiled by Hill and Kelce and had to refocus. He's bringing the WR corp to Texas to train in the off season with Reid's approval. His initiative has them learning the Reid playbook much quicker.
@derekmathews1557 Жыл бұрын
@@scottmahurin3567 , I think him doing that with the receivers really helped.
@derekmathews1557 Жыл бұрын
@@halwa9528 , that’s true.
@kcsniper1243 Жыл бұрын
This was a chiefs rebuild year and they won the super bowl. There starting RB is a rookie, a All Pro Center and Guard both in there 2nd and 3rd years. They have the youngest starting secondary in the league with 3 rookies. They definitely have the brightest future
@ishyameru6232 Жыл бұрын
Pacheco is a 7th round rookie at that
@sterlingshort744 Жыл бұрын
smith is in his 2nd year as well
@derekmathews1557 Жыл бұрын
Absouletely what a drafting class and I’m really excited about 2023.
@boki424 Жыл бұрын
lol, love it that Joy casually says "that I've been saying all week." :D
@jjmah7 Жыл бұрын
Once next season starts again you’re all (especially Joy) just gonna trash the Chiefs again then change it up when they dominate the league again.
@adioprotege Жыл бұрын
Remember when this guy said the Chiefs wouldn't even make the playoffs? I remember
@derekmathews1557 Жыл бұрын
Right Emmanuelle Ocho said that nonsense; he knew better.
@srte147 Жыл бұрын
With the 2022 coming to a close I most say I really enjoyed watching Speak this year even though I didn’t like the change but now I can’t wait to see you guys next season great job gang !
@brutuskata Жыл бұрын
I definitely agree. Speak was definitely awesome this year
@lucasashford7966 Жыл бұрын
What no one talks about is the athletic staff and the equipment staff of the chiefs. Some of the best staffs in history.
@emmitttraynor8939 Жыл бұрын
The Chiefs just won that 2nd ring, it could be a wrap for the league now. It's harder to get the 2nd then the 1st imo.
@thacutoff6226 Жыл бұрын
Honestly Chiefs, they just need to draft defensive players and lineman. If they hit on a couple stud defensive players in draft nfl will be in serious trouble Also coaching makes a difference Andy Reid - first ballot HOF Spagnola - locked up 18-0 patriots in Super Bowl as giants def coordinator
@slimmike56 Жыл бұрын
Even though its Valentines day, i’d still push my wife down the stairs to motor boat Joy
@BigRed22_KC Жыл бұрын
Watch out when we pick up another true WR1. Hopkins may be available and Keenan Allen may be cut, amongst others. Gonna be a fun off-season
@peartist2 Жыл бұрын
We have him already if his hamstring stays fresh
@halwa9528 Жыл бұрын
@@peartist2 you talking Toney?
@peartist2 Жыл бұрын
@@halwa9528 yep
@philmccracken904 Жыл бұрын
Everyone talking about Reid, Mahomes, Kelce are missing who the real mastermind behind the chiefs success, which is Brett Veach. True that all play a part but as long as they retain Veach this team will continue to draft well and move players like Tyreek to aquire draft picks and stay young. And bring in castaways that are hungry and feel they have been slighted by other teams. Veach is the real MVP of this franchise.
@onliwankannoli Жыл бұрын
Credit to Veach. Heckova draft and picking up other great young talent cheaply. Do the Chiefs pick well or develop well?
@TeeOhh12 Жыл бұрын
@@onliwankannoli I would say Develop well imo
@philmccracken904 Жыл бұрын
@@onliwankannoli they do both well. Look at the draft picks from last year and how many of those rookies contributed this year. It's insane. And the free agents they brought in juju, MVS, Justin Reid, toney,Carlos Dunlap, that front office is tops in the league and people overlook that part of things. They're the reason the chiefs will have sustained success.
@onliwankannoli Жыл бұрын
@@philmccracken904 Well put 👍
@coreybutler5325 Жыл бұрын
Eric b is the real reason even Andy says that never want to give the Blackman he’s props
@user-mt5rw9sg4o Жыл бұрын
Ocho We're ( Chiefs Kingdom ) are smoking cigars while watching ALL OF YOUR OLD CLIPS last year AND this year. AND the HATE just can't stay off YOUR LIPS !!!
@derquandoucett7986 Жыл бұрын
I like how acho was all on the eagles tip before the game now the chiefs won he all on theirs. Bro just gotta ride with the hot hand
@Deeznutz581 Жыл бұрын
I don’t see the RPO offense being a factor soon . League always adjust. Hurts efficiency is based off of that gimmick. Take away the outside runs of rpo and the quick slants and the offense is lackluster
@PopePlatinumBeats Жыл бұрын
so u going to STILL keep doubting HURTS? even MAHOMES said himself to stop Doubting Hurts.... but OK...
@codyjackson245 Жыл бұрын
As an Eagles fan, it’s the chiefs obviously. But…the Eagles future is definitely bright with Hurts. They’ll pay him before Lamar, Burrow etc. Howie Roseman is the best in the league at restructuring contracts and signing free agents. Gainwell is becoming better than Miles Sanders. The QBs coach who will be a phenomenal HC someday will be their new OC. They have Cam Jurgens to replace Kelce. Jordan Davis, Nakobe Dean. Plus they have two first round draft picks. They’ll be fine.
@scottmahurin3567 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. I believe the Eagles are in great shape. Already stacked and know how to draft. Roseman is an outstanding GM. As a Chiefs fan, I've a ton of respect for your organization. Eagles will be back next year, the one after, and for years to come.
@fvozay Жыл бұрын
We doing the same thing we did with the patriots smh. Chiefs shouldn’t be compared to anybody else in the league. Everybody else is under them. And I’m a pats fan saying this
@codyjackson245 Жыл бұрын
Yeah as an eagles fan idk how you could say the Eagles have a better future than the Chiefs. The Eagles probably have a better future than anyone in the NFC right now, but the Chiefs have the best future in the whole league
@williamallen7984 Жыл бұрын
Cincy has to pay Joey B, they’re gonna lose somebody. KC should offer half those 11 draft picks for Tee Higgins 😂
@danc3367 Жыл бұрын
Nope, because he is going to want 20M+ and that makes no sense for the Chiefs.
@jasonfisher5320 Жыл бұрын
I agree with dan
@davidjudd951 Жыл бұрын
Answering the bell on every game when all the teams you play, are circling their calendars just for you, and bringing their best every week to beat you, really speaks volumes on just how good the Chiefs are. And they've done it now for four straight years with teams coming specifically for them. That's greatness.
@DuckFanDane Жыл бұрын
I think what a lot of people aren’t talking about that at the end they kind of hit on is everybody else about to get paid. Mahomes has a pretty team friendly deal. Nobody else is most likely going to sign a 10 year contract and everybody else of the young great teams has to have their quarterback be paid this year or next year. The Chiefs proven they can win with just average receivers or even below average like this year. They have a very young team that’s just going to get better and they’re gonna become like the Warriors back in the day were good receivers will choose them over anybody else and take a little bit less for the chance to win a championship. This is what Mahomes did on one ankle in the playoffs. Also take into account against the Bengals. He won, even with not one starting receiver in all of the second half and not having hardman for the Super Bowl . The Eagles have a lot of free agents they need to resign on Top of hurts.
@davidcrime1555 Жыл бұрын
You consider the receivers below average,you don't know football
@justinkooker1460 Жыл бұрын
Just because we switch them out to keep their legs fresh and due to specific plays designed for certain receivers does not mean they are average at all. It is all about the game plan and the scheme. They are not average at all. They are drastically underrated.
@kennethcadwell2124 Жыл бұрын
@David Crime they are average at best. Not a one of the Chief's starting WR's is a #1 caliber receiver............ They are all 2's, 3's, and 4's..........
@kennethcadwell2124 Жыл бұрын
@@justinkooker1460 Chief's don't have any #1 caliber receivers on their roster. They are 2nd or less caliber.........
@davidcrime1555 Жыл бұрын
@@kennethcadwell2124 well you're definitely a below average football mind
@danielriddick9257 Жыл бұрын
knowing how we have Justyn Ross and John Ross along with a Kadarius Toney sitting on the roster along with 9/11 draft picks, especially after seeing we can when the big one without the talent of one Tyreek Hill, trust me when I say I'm not worried at all, plus the draft in KC this year. Aye let's get it. Not to mention we have a gem in RB Isaiah Pacheco. Future looking real 🌞
@stanuel7890 Жыл бұрын
I forgot about justyn, I hope he works out as a star
@Thirdboy6 Жыл бұрын
“Mahomes, Kelce, and Reid that beat the Eagles” okay in a huge chiefs fan and I love those guys but give the O line credit. 0 sacks allowed against the so called historic D-line. Also Nick Bolton was a monster that game. Love the big three and definitely wouldn’t win without them, but those same guys need players like Bolton, Thornhill, Chris Jones, and Sneed to come up big too.
@Kmkats Жыл бұрын
I love how cocky fans are after wins. This is how all the eagles fans were talking to the Niner fans after the nfc title game. The eagles d line was historic. Why can’t it just be really great teams sometimes beat other really great teams? Haha why can’t that be enough for some people? Haha I never understand that.
@patmahomes2972 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree.....Sneed is very under-rated...CJones is critical for us...Bolton is Derrick Johnson reincarnated
@markfroman738 Жыл бұрын
Acho loves to have convos!
@jerrybrazeal3069 Жыл бұрын
The Chiefs have broken the NFL, Mahomes will likely be the 10th highest paid QB, we have 12 picks in draft, cap space going up, and rookies hit solid. This is solid for years!
@mawavoy Жыл бұрын
Love this program’s structure and format.
@uniquelyinsanetv1262 Жыл бұрын
I like that ending 😂
@ryanwills-37 Жыл бұрын
The problems for the Eagles is Hurts needs a contract and that is where the problem comes in usually. It's all about how good your GM really is. VEACH has been working wonders every year with the drafts with light free agent signings. You build champions with the draft the Eagles have shown so far that he's doing just that
@nathanieleisenman2487 Жыл бұрын
The Eagles have a LOT of key free agents coming up and probably not enough money to bring them back. Both of the two DTs who play the most snaps, one of whom had ten sacks this season and the other a long-time Eagle and future HoFer. Then you have you have Brandon Graham who is the longest-tenured Philadelphia athlete and had ten sacks this season as the third pass rusher. Linval Joseph and Ndamukong Suh, both aging vets with great careers who did an admirable job when brought in to stuff the run. Robert Quinn, who didn't get on the field a ton in Philly but had 18.5 sacks as recently as 2021. Then both starting backers, TJ Edwards and Kyzir White, both of whom played well this season. In the secondary, a starting safety in Marcus Epps, his safety partner CJ Gardner-Johnson who was tied for most interceptions in the NFL, and James Bradberry, one half of arguably the best CB-tandem in the NFL this season. Eight of these eleven guys were in the top 11 in 2022 Eagles defensive snap count. On offense it's a little better but not much. Along the offensive line it's a HoF center in Jason Kelce, a great starter in Isaac Seumalo, and Andre Dillard who doesn't play for the Eagles but could probably start elsewhere. Then Miles Sanders and Boston Scott, the latter of whom is our third running back option and the former who made the Pro Bowl in 2022 and had the 5th most rushing yards in the league. Then Zach Pascal, the fourth option at RB and a key special teamer. I don't really have anything to say about Tyree Jackson other than that he was a tight end on the roster. Gardner Minshew is another free agent, a quarterback who can probably start elsewhere. Finally, Rick Lovato, our long-snapper is a free agent.
@kennethcadwell2124 Жыл бұрын
There is talk Jason Kelce might retire..........
@ramonnewell9312 Жыл бұрын
Everybody keeps talking about the Eagles free agent, but some of they already have good replacements waiting. Cox has Jordan Davis behind him, and Kyzir has Nakobe Dean behind him. Bradberry will be a huge loss, but he can be replaced in the draft. Brandon Graham will get resigned, and I’m sure his contract will be all signing bonus, so it doesn’t hit the cap. Miles Sanders will also be a huge loss, but I don’t think he is necessary. RB’s grow on trees these days. The priorities should be TJ Edwards, Hargrave, and CGJ. 3 free agents to try and resign is not that many and should be do-able
@kennethcadwell2124 Жыл бұрын
@Ramon Newell there is a lot more than 3 FA's on that defense, and rookies in the waiting aren't a guarantee to be successful..........
@ramonnewell9312 Жыл бұрын
@@kennethcadwell2124 can you not read….? I addressed the defensive free agents.. 3 are a priority. Well Jordan Davis isn’t a rookie, and neither is Nakobe Dean…. Davis played a lot this year, and we already know he’s good. Use your brain buddy.
@kennethcadwell2124 Жыл бұрын
@Ramon Newell I am using my brain as I looked at the list. There are at the least 6 guys who could sign elsewhere just on the defense alone........
@nicklewis2826 Жыл бұрын
50 percent of the Chief's backfield are rookies. There is a lot of growth to be had there in the coming years, plus a ton of cap space. Chiefs need one more offensive weapon to really cement their dominance and they can absolutely run the league for the next 5 years.
@scanner743 Жыл бұрын
Thanks god you removed the tip stiffer from your show finally you came to your senses
@brandoncomer6492 Жыл бұрын
The bengals still have probably 2 years where they are absurdly scary before burrows money start significantly chopping away at them. That’s the chiefs biggest roadblock. The thing is I think the chiefs will actually get better over the next two years as many of those rookies mature and they draft more and bring in ringchasing vets to fill depth. That chiefs defense could legit be a top 5-10 unit in a year or two, and we know their offense is going to be elite.
@patmahomes2972 Жыл бұрын
Not with spags unfortunately
@itbdaniel Жыл бұрын
@@patmahomes2972 i said the same thing earlier last season but i can admit i was wrong. I think Spags finally realized he needs to start being more versatile in todays pass happy NFL
@patmahomes2972 Жыл бұрын
Well this year he finally played rookies and they grew up quick...better disguised blitzing, better tackling and a established edge would do wonders
@davidjudd951 Жыл бұрын
Yes, the Bengals are for real. Burrow is a stud, and Chase is scary good. Go Chiefs!
@khangngo6372 Жыл бұрын
with Patrick Mahomes on ur team everyone is star. Just like Tb12 back in the day.
@kelseykjarsgaard5774 Жыл бұрын
I was so wrong on him 😭🤣
@justinhillman6770 Жыл бұрын
I have heard multiple times that our last Super Bowl win was 4 years ago... it was only 3 lol.
@byrd4004 Жыл бұрын
Chiefs have 12 picks this year
@tinailges8131 Жыл бұрын
The NFL just increased the Cap. So there is a very strong possibility that the Chiefs big up a big money receiver.
@johnnyvansguard869 Жыл бұрын
The chiefs has the better future. One reason alone, they already sign mahomes
@chopprstr1fe Жыл бұрын
The only thing that needs to be focused on when talking Eagles, is how they're going about rectifying that no show defense. They were the reason why the Eagles lost, and that's with Hurts giving the Chiefs a hot 7. But Jaylin bounced back and was killing it.
@teancummccarthy8419 Жыл бұрын
Chiefs easy because mahomes already has his contract. Eventually eagles will have to pay Jalen and that will be a re-adjustment to the entire roster when that happens.
@PopePlatinumBeats Жыл бұрын
do u think JALEN is the kind of guy that will want a team crippling deal.. or he wants multiple titles?
@teancummccarthy8419 Жыл бұрын
@@PopePlatinumBeats this superbowl Jalens cap hit was 1.6 million. Jalen is at least a 40 million dollar QB which would be considered a very team friendly deal if he were to take just 40 Million. You'll still lose great players around the rest of the roster...
@PopePlatinumBeats Жыл бұрын
@teancummccarthy8419 yeah but the Eagles Have Howie Roseman. He wont pay Sanders..Fletcher is gone..they trimming the fat..and Jalen will sign a 10 year dear to let Howie play with the numbers...i stopped doubting Howie long ago.
@teancummccarthy8419 Жыл бұрын
@@PopePlatinumBeats they're not giving Jalen hurts a 10 year deal, I'm sorry. Jalen is a running QB and he's already had injuries which were apparent in the first two playoff games. Now, I could definitely see him getting the Josh Allen 6 year deal and at the very least the Kyler Murray deal.
@teancummccarthy8419 Жыл бұрын
@@PopePlatinumBeats do you think howie is going to be more cautious because they gave Carson wentz a deal a year too early? Because if they pay Jalen too soon and it goes south with Jalen due to injuries, that may cost Howie his job.
@Henry-yi4rg Жыл бұрын
Very Good show
@margcan Жыл бұрын
Glad that number 10 on the chief's team didn't end up with a Hamlin deal the way he got hit in the chest with that helmet.
@peartist2 Жыл бұрын
No one talks about how that should have been a penalty.
@danc3367 Жыл бұрын
@@peartist2 Yes, it should have been, he led with the crown of his helmet. That's very dangerous for both players.
@petep5207 Жыл бұрын
8 rookies on KC win the SB....a minute after entering the league. Toney gets discarded by the Giants and has a SB ring 5 minutes later. Same with JuJu. It just seems surreal to a degree...how life changes on a dime.
@kingmeup21 Жыл бұрын
I love Joy’s mocking nature of the “underdog” Chiefs. Yes they definitely aren’t and weren’t ever actual underdogs in the traditional sense. But before the season majority of media didn’t even have them winning their own division. Some were even saying they’d finish 3rd. And throughout the season the Bills were always the media’s darlings. And the majority of media picked the Eagles to win the SuperBowl. The Chiefs proved they are the best and team to beat every year no matter the roster as long a Andy Reid is the coach and Mahomes is the QB. They are what the Rodgers Packers were supposed to be.
@ZayX236 Жыл бұрын
I can’t believe this is a convo
@austinsloan6699 Жыл бұрын
Saying it all week? Shady ain’t there and she changes which team she rooting for😂😂
@heribertochavez77 Жыл бұрын
We’ve see what the chiefs can do even with mahomes contract we don’t know how the eagles will look when jalen gets payed and they lose players cause of it
@anthonyslazas6413 Жыл бұрын
Agree
@josephmccartney5951 Жыл бұрын
Eagles Super Bowl window just closed once they sign hurts. Fly eagles fly 😂🤣🤡🤡🤡
@made_u_LookTV Жыл бұрын
But why Acho acting like he was a all-pro linebacker… you never put fear in the offense eyes other then a few good plays at UT 🙄
@d3vp131 Жыл бұрын
Both Cincy n Philly have to pay 40-50 mill a yr to their QBs. Both teams will lose a lot of FA’s and depth. Mahomes is locked up on a sweet long term deal and only two teams started and played more rookies than the Chiefs.
@gatojj Жыл бұрын
If it wasn't for Jones and Clark playing the Bengals we would not have made it maybe! The chiefs are a complete team! They all step up when need be !
@elementzero3379 Жыл бұрын
I'm an Eagles fan, and this question makes me laugh. Philly has some great players under contract, including our QB, but we're facing a lot of turnover in both roster and staff. The Eagles were the best team in the NFC, but SF and Dallas were right there nipping at their heels. Meanwhile, KC has dominated the AFC for 5 years. They may not have won the Super Bowl every season, but they're always close. They have an historically great QB and HC, All Pros on their roster, and a bunch of good young players. They just best the best team Philly has ever had, in my opinion. I would love for the Eagles to become what the Chiefs already are. I hope the Eagles' future is as bright as KC's.
@jfacts192 Жыл бұрын
Chiefs should re-sign Orlando Brown, draft a offensive lineman, a true number one receiver or go get D-Hop to pair with Kelece, MVS, toney, and Sky more. They also should strengthen the defensive front in the draft.
@dawood121derful Жыл бұрын
I think Wiley has earned the RT position if the Chiefs want to sign him again. OB should get the tag again this year. I think OL will be drafted early and often in this year’s draft.
@jimmyphan2347 Жыл бұрын
Chiefs future is better because Mahomes, JH has a bright future, but he better limit his running and use his arm more. Running QB don't last long in NFL, be smart and tell the coach only when it necessary.
@QuintQuint18 Жыл бұрын
0:56 it's only Tuesday lol
@frankmischler4424 Жыл бұрын
Having Howie roseman as a GM puts my mind at ease. He’s the best GM in the league
@williamallen7984 Жыл бұрын
Dave, not only have they always made at least the AFC title game, they’ve yet to lose it in regulation…
@Gorilla__zo Жыл бұрын
They was hating picking the eagles last week now they 🥩 riding
@WordsMatter1982 Жыл бұрын
The thing that makes dynasties so amazing in football is the marriage of talent, coaching and luck. Where you can be well coached and be talented, but sometimes dumb luck saves or sinks you. For all the dominance of New England with Brady, they played so many close nail-biters in the playoffs. Even they got bit by luck in 07 when A a nte Samuel drops a pick that hit him right in the chest. The 80's Niners needed last second drives, The Catch, etc. Steelers needed immaculate receptions and leaping Lynn Swan catches. The margins of what we consider dominance is so razor thin. I say all this to say that even if the Cheifs are "better", they may not get the bounces, the breaks, the wind, etc.
@lawjd96 Жыл бұрын
great take
@edwardhan75 Жыл бұрын
Why is Shady never there after the Eagles lose? lmao
@lakeozarkrei3767 Жыл бұрын
Good thing Acho is got a talk show... and didn't go into coaching👍
@CtrlAltDfeat Жыл бұрын
It's not just about the receivers. Acho is seriously glossing over the chiefs oline. They were EXCELLENT in the superbowl. They were what allowed mahomes and the skill players to be successful just like when brady went to the superbowl a few years back. And if burrow can get a lights out oline he'll have a really good shot to get to another superbowl as well.
@ChadAvery Жыл бұрын
‘Who would’ve known’ Lots of people knew they’d be there in the Super Bowl. They proved that you don’t need a CHEAP QB to win it. You need Mahomes. End of story 😂
@jesusv14jv Жыл бұрын
I think everyone forgot the defense scored a Td too 😂
@billyherrera9187 Жыл бұрын
Both quarterbacks "are both very accomplished"? One has been to 3 SBs and won 2. The other has had one very good season. One is arguably the best QB in the last 6 years. The other had a mediocre first starting season and greatly improved 2nd year as a starter. The 2 are not even comparable.
@kcbreeze100mob Жыл бұрын
We got pieces on the practice squad that can ball and we have draft picks we have assets to trade and get better we need a back up QB and with nagy a good qb coach we go get that and we still got Justin RossWR to if injury do hurt him but we got big name players that want to play in KC so we good for a loooong time
@shawnglowka9627 Жыл бұрын
Kansas City as long as you have Patrick mchomes your future is bright. I like hurts Hope he has a long career but he kinda reminds me of Colin Kaepernick can run has a strong arm . but if Philly can keep those two at wide receivers he will be ok the talent and speed of those wide receivers and the number one offensive line is the reason hurts gets those big runs don't now if hurts can do it without the talent around him
@daame1 Жыл бұрын
Easily KC. Eagles have 30 UFA coming up this summer. A couple ppl to name, Bradberry, CGJ, BG, Kelce, Fletch, Robert Quinn, Hargrave, and Tj Edwards. I could of said even more. These were big pieces on their team.
@kdesaaf4190 Жыл бұрын
We also have 2 first round draft picks, and we will be able to resign some of them
@daame1 Жыл бұрын
@@kdesaaf4190 i doubt it. you guys gonna have to pay jalen and devonta will be eligible next offseason. only CGJ, and Edwards will prolly return
@spomusmo2349 Жыл бұрын
I don't know about brighter future but I know eagles have an easier path. There are no elite qbs in the Nfc where as the Afc is stacked. I will say this though the Chiefs are like the Warriors of the NFL as long as the core of Reid, Mahomes and Kelce is there good luck to the rest of the league.
@braydenpresley1437 Жыл бұрын
This isn't even a debate.
@Perfecto7236 4 ай бұрын
Joy was 100% right. Then Acho hates right on cue.
@rfujii1 Жыл бұрын
The AFC West loaded up, that got them where?
@boki424 Жыл бұрын
All of them keep thinking Wylie wasn't the backup that was forced into starting during the SB against the Bucs. Talk about disrespect.
@johnusher2331 Жыл бұрын
Brett veach said it best when he held up the trophy and said this is what a rebuilding year looks like that was an in your face remark for all the doubters who said it was a rebuilding year
@impactzful Жыл бұрын
as a eagles fan, chiefs, only bc andy reid is a consistent coach on top of mahomes just being head and shoulders above every other qb
@brigitte9999 Жыл бұрын
Season play is different than playoff play.
@fifis677 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget Bieniemy. As an Eagles fan, I love Andy Ried and he is one of the greatest coaches there's ever been, but Bieniemy was a huge part of that win.
@donttrendonme Жыл бұрын
What kind of question is this lol. You’re talking about the most dominate team over 4-5 seasons vs a new coach & new 1st contract QB. Eagles could be a one off & miss playoffs next year.
@night_wolf6621 Жыл бұрын
Low key missing Shady I definitely wouldn’t have said that in the beginning but he’s good
@csb78nm Жыл бұрын
Any given Sunday. Just with the Chiefs it's usually not "this" Sunday. Yes, it's a long season - but that's true of every team. One thing most teams don't have: a coach the caliber of Andy Reid and, for all the grief he gets, Steve Spagnuolo.
@richardgraham8377 Жыл бұрын
These analysts really are acting like they didn't doubt the Chiefs in the beginning of the season. Yeah, they started to support the Chiefs after they were winning in the season, but in the beginning, they thought the chiefs were going to be in the bottom of the division
@davidmurray5399 Жыл бұрын
You have to have Josh Allen and Joe Burrow in this conversation. As QB's who can take your team to another level, these fellows have proven they belong there.
@Dozjah Жыл бұрын
Acho is Brandon Marshall 2.0 He brings a packet of that corny sauce every seg.
@montedgant366 Жыл бұрын
❤️Joy
@rasheedhawkins3372 Жыл бұрын
Someone on this panel missed that it’s a “rebuild” and KC are starting rookies everywhere, and they took a step back on defense, yet still dominated. 3/5 years in a Super Bowl, 2 dubs, and you have the greatest current player on your squad… Gonna take a while to dethrone that mindset.
@jasonfisher5320 Жыл бұрын
Honestly i think they took a step forward on defense especially in the playoffs, if it wasnt for the defense getting better i dont know if we would of beaten some of those teams
@dcmkcbbq Жыл бұрын
MVS still has 2 years on his deal. Mathieu left last year, too.
@mjohnson2123 Жыл бұрын
As long as the Chiefs have Andy Reid as their coach and a healthy Patrick Mahomes, they'll be a top 5 team or better.
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