my review of this episode here : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aqloacmc0J2dZX0.html

The best part is the SG-1 clips were from their 200th episode where they mock themselves, other franchises, and most classic sci-fi tropes, Picard was serious.

Wow, that makes it even worse, because Stargate did that as a joke.

The fact that Seven used "Yards" instead of "Meters" says it all.

The thing about Stargate writing wasn't that it was brilliant or innovative. It was highly competent and highly aware. Aware of their audience and their audience's expectations, aware of their own limitations and of the effect of the narrative on the franchise. "200" is the benchmark for this very effective approach. It also has one of the mst important pieces of advice for writers, advice the Picard writers clearly haven't received: "Never underestimate your audience. They're generally sensitive, intelligent people who respond positively to quality entertainment." Followed by the second best piece of advice: "I do not understand why everything in this script must inevitably explode." Dammit I going to rewatch 200

Don’t forget Mitchell’s comment in that episode about not underestimating the intelligence of your audience it was clear that the writers respected the audience and the fans.

I love how the Borg far away are randomly firing at nothing simply because the camera happens to be panning over them

I think SG-1 was the only series to turn its milestone episodes 100 & 200 into an hilarious fun roasting of itself and the genre.

When your favorite show points out and mock what's wrong with modern tv years before it got really bad, well it brings a smile on my face

Funny thing is, the 10 seconds were already over when Mitchell said "Ok, this could be a problem".

Rewatching SG1 season 2 last week, was obviously very budget-strapped but more than compensated with excellent writing. What the heck happened to Hollywood?

That one episode of SG-1 really shows how bad the writting has got for such series. That was a parody, but such hack frauds are now everywhere in TV and Cinema.

The lesson here is clear....go watch SG1.

I’m so pleased to see so many people talking about how genuinely great Stargate SG1 was. No, it wasn’t perfect, it had some missteps and weird changes in direction here and there; but you can tell that the staff, both the writer’s room and the actors, cared about good storytelling and respecting their fan base. It’s weird and wacky scifi with a more or less grounded ensemble cast that you want to cheer for- a lovely marriage of suspended disbelief and believability.

SG-1 was smarter than I thought. They basically gave the blueprint on how to do the MCU with the ensemble cast, and also how not to turn it into a farce by hiring a middle age smarmy guy with glasses like Kurtzperson.

SG-1 was such a brilliant show.

The "Teen-crew-clip" of ep 200 was 15 years ahead of time, empty shallow, superficial, a lot like the CW-Series nowadays. But the best Part of EP 200 was the Stargate Movie/SG1 Pilot Adaptation mix - with Puppets. That clip was absolutely hilarious.

Its funny as fuck that the episode in SG1 that was taking the utter piss to the extreme is now actually being made. LMAO!!!

It does make me happy that more and more people are beginning to recognize bad writing. People like Kurtzman shouldn't be allowed to continue failing upward.

You know I might go rewatch Stargate

Producer: I bet it's going to be tough for them to escape that scenario. Pitch writer: ACTUALLY, it's going to be super easy, BARELY an inconvenience! Producer: Oh, really?!? Pitch writer: You see, Alex Kurtzman steals from other science fiction genres. Producer: Oh man, stealing from superior science fiction genres to fill in the gaps of your various plot holes is TIGHT!

"200" should be mandatory viewing for all prospective scriptwriters.

One of the many problems of ST: Picard is that Patrick Stewart isn’t playing Picard, he’s playing Patrick Stewart! He displays none of the captains authority or mannerisms.

it's amazing that modern scifi isn't episodic and yet still has a difficult time to tell ONE story.. you have 10 or so episodes and still can't do it 🤦🏻‍♂️ yet stargate and old star trek told so much more in each episode.. ffs writers these days are lazy as shit

Stargate SG-1 is, IMO one of the most undervalued and underappreciated SCI-FI series ever produced. Considering that it ran for 10 seasons and spawned four spinoffs and two TV movies, that's *_really_* saying something. *_Huge_* props to the actors for a willingness to lampoon themselves and anything else in the process.

Stargate had some great self aware writing. Loved that show.

it drove me nuts that the characters spent 90% of their time dwelling on psychological baggage instead of getting on with the minor task of saving the universe.

At this point I'm going to start cheering for the bad people in Picard. They need to take out Picard and his rag-tag group of followers to end the misery of this show. TNG spoiled us and this series has made us care very little for this group of characters. I hate to be this negative, but the writing is just bad. For all those who disagree, that is fine, and I hope you are enjoying this or getting something out of it. It is just an opinion.

Don’t even have to click “play” on this one. Replicators behind, Jaffa in front, then waltz through the Stargate like nothing happened. Just like Anika/Raffi running through an open field and past Borg spec ops armed with automatic weapons. How did they make it? “Isn’t it obvious?” says the producer. Clicking “play” now, and “like.” Smash that “like.”

This is brilliant - honestly the failure of Kurtzman trek really reminded me of that episode of SG1 where Martin is spit balling ideas for the show. 😂

There was something similar in S3 of Discovery, in the episode where Discovery arrives at Earth. Burnham and Booker are in the latter's ship about to try some maneuver of sorts to win a battle, and then the scene cuts to them dragging the enemy on the bridge of Discovery. When I saw that, I immediately thought of this SG1 clip.

My wife and I are watching SG-1 for the first time and will frequently question the show's narrative out loud only to have one of the characters ask *that exact question* and another character with an in universe reason for having the knowledge respond to it. It's remarkably tight writing for what it was.

Nu-Trek makes a whole lot more sense once you realize Akiva Goldsman literally is just Martin Lloyd

The most important thing about the SG-1 clip is this: It knew what SG-1 was. It knew the lore of the series, the history, the characters, the tone, everything. By knowing all these things, it could poke fun of itself. STP has no fucking idea what Star Trek is or who Picard was.

Stargate SG-1 was such a good show. I didn't appreciate it at the time for being cheap and corny in comparison to the Stargate movie and in comparison to the Star Treks of the time. Oh how things have changed! Now I think it is quaint how they spend most of the time hiking around Canada shooting Jaffas. Makes me nostalgic for the days when I could go out in the trees.

The 200th episode is a source of so many good jokes. Even the joke episode has solid writing. Thank you SG1 (and to be fair, a lot of sci Fi from that era) for realizing that good writing is the best investment you can make

Makes you think SG1's per episode budget was between 1 - 2 million US(with inflation probably closer to 2.6 million in today's money) an episode and Star Trek Picard's is 8 - 9 million US per episode. We could have gotten about 60 episodes of SG1 just shy of 3 seasons, for the same price as the 19 episodes of Star Trek Picard.

“For a moment there I thought we were in trouble.”

Ah yes, the old “tell don’t show” way of writing. It’s telling that whether telling or showing the story, these “writers” are still terrible at their chosen craft.

SG-1's 200th episode was basically Major Grin with a TV budget.

Reminds me of the Simpsons fire exit: "I won't bore you with the details of our miraculous escape."

Patrick Stewart is part of the writing team. He gets paid about $1 Million dollars per episode of Picard.

SG1 has always been great writing that overcame it's really campy origins. They were consistent in their world building and rules that govern it, but also had fun with the audience to acknowledge their intelligence is some of the more questionable plot holes that came up from time to time. Kind of like an inside joke with the fans. They carried that to Atlantis as well.

Here's my theory. You know how old shows like Adam West Batman have reached a sort of "So bad it's good" status? I think these writers have embraced their own mediocrity and are now trying to artificially capture that same status. Except they can't even do THAT right. 😂😂

To anyone who made it through an entire season of this crap I ask whether you are enjoying torturing yourself or are you hate watching it.

"The STP writers were just making a homage to Wormhole Xtreme - it's brilliant satire!" -Dreckies, grasping onto those tiny straws

The wife and I just recently re-watched SG1. It really was as good and we remembered. The writing was fantastic and they didn't take things so seriously that they couldn't make fun of themselves and others. Some the the comedy was almost high-brow if you know what I mean. And the character development was the best! Too bad it had to end. Even when it was obvious during times they were struggling with budgets the writing was always top notch.

Patrick Stewart told us all his plan for STP in that episode of "Extras" he appeared in. He wished to infiltrate the writers room, so he could push his own self serving, narcissistic, badly conceived, righteous ego trip on all of us! I'm starting to class him as the Neil Breen of this fake Star Trek!

They made a complete "Spaceballs"... SG-1 is aging like wine, specially chapters like this or Window of Opportunity. The fact that Carter and Teyla are strong women, but also not radicals is something I miss from modern shows. Teyla having a sincere friendship with Sheppard and even being a mother (and wife) makes her better than most modern female characters.

SG-1 shows the origins of Alex Kurtzman

Even the worst episode of SG1 is better than STP!

gotta admit, back in the day i was never that interested in sg1. it seemed pretty cheesy at first glance. like cheap assembly-line work. but now i want to give it a second chance and watch it completely. sga is also pretty good, i heard. the sg1 episodes i've watched so far are much better than most of modern genre productions. the cheap effects don't bother me anymore. you can really see that the writers put a lot of passion into creating those scripts and characters. they wanted to create a very entertaining show and do the best they could with the budget. in the 90's and 2000's i rather prefered star trek (especially ds9), babylon 5, farscape, space above&beyond, outer limits, millennium and x-files. there were so many good genre shows back then, especially compared to nowadays. after the early 2000's it went downhill pretty fast and didn't recover much since then. in the last 15-20 years only two really great scifi shows come to mind: galactica and the expanse. if you're not only into scifi, but also love mystery/horror, i also would recommend "supernatural" (spn). it delivers tons of classic entertainment and is one of the longest running genre shows besides sg1. the later seasons are not as strong as the first ones, but even a weaker spn episode is much better than everything kurtzman-trek has to offer. greetings from germany :)

SG1 is cheesy as hell and full of deus ex mechanica, but it's just so bloody GOOD. Good characters, strong female characters, good writing, good acting, good action. Modern television is a faded copy of what they were making in the 90s.

That's the problem with high budget - you rely more on visuals and effects. Without the budget you have to be more creative. That's why generally, earlier seasons in shows tend to be better recieved (not always tho)

So, from 0:45, we get this big sweeping (virtual camera) shot, and despite watching it over and over, I can't see these 50 yards of open ground Seven was talking about.

Started watching SG-1 again recently. Teal’c on his own was more watchable than any episode of modern ST.

This show has a budget of $10 Million dollars an episode. The exact same budget as Game of Thrones. Why is the quality so bad?

Early SG1 was pure gold, later seasons suffered from low budget and artificially prolonged plotlines. But even then I believe there were somewhat talented people doing what they could to make the best out of it. Picard is an abomination and more seasons hopefully won't be made.

The Star Trek I grew up on in the 90s is dead. Star Trek PIcard and Discovery bear very little resemblance to the cold corpse of Gene Roddenberrys Trek

Stargate truly was a long line of "We didn't know how good we had it." Too bad Universe met it's untimely demise, but SG-1 and Atlantis are still wonderful.

Science fiction is an existential metaphor, that allows us to tell stories about the human condition. Isaac Asimov once said: "Individual science fiction stories may seem as trivial as ever to the blinder critics and philosophers of today - but the core of science fiction, its essence has become crucial to our salvation, if we are to be saved at all." Grell (Teal'c's counterpart on Wormhole X-Treme):

When I saw that scene with Raffi and Seven talking before making a run for it, I was reminded of the part in Blues Brothers where they mention they have a full tank of gas and are wearing shades...

Star Trek Continues, Star Trek Farragut, and Star Trek Phase II (By James Cawley) are the only Trek worth watching. Nuanced writing with thought provoking messages that don't shove that woke horseshit down your throats. Kudos to The Orville as the new Star Trek

I'd still rather see THAT "episode" of SG:SG1, ten times, than Picard.

Thank you so much. I can't explain how much I needed this laugh today

You could find examples of this every episode in Picard S1 & S2. Like, Jurati just turns up at Soong's apartment. Now, I'm guessing she also had access to the transporters maybe, but she just turns up - suddenly. Soong's house is unlikely to be just round the corner. Also, Elnor's sword is just there on the ship (he never brought one with him). If you look, they clearly meant this to be 'his' sword, but now fans have to say that Rios just had a similar-looking sword just there in his collection.

A masterful move, have your characters overcome impossible odds by overcoming them. Utterly brilliant. Having some "clever" solution is so trite nowadays. Glad to see writers stepping off the beaten path and uping their game.

I was afraid people would make fun of me for reading fanfiction as a child, but now as an adult, I'd be more ashamed to consume the official media.

Creepy, I was literally watching this 5 minutes ago!

And Seven says it's 50 yards when she should have said meters.

0:31 Raffi: "When we get out of this ..." Seven: "We're not getting out of this." Raffi: "No. Probably not." Oh, the drama! I was so scared for them!! No, I wasn't. Because I don't give a shit about either of them, and because I knew they were going to make it even if ten thousand bullets were fired at them.

if they would do this once, you could accept it as a stylistic decision. but "picard" is full of those fake-outs. especially this episode had many scenes where the action was very poorly directed. they always went the cheapest route. even in scenes, that were supposed to be very dramatic and tense. there was not one moment that really worked - not on a narrative level, not one a emotional level, not even as popcorn entertainment. at this point, they've completely sold out Star Trek. it was a premium product once, now it's just cheap bargain bin trash. greetings from germany :)

LOL!!! Thank you so much for these videos!

The best thing is in sg1 the team recognizes when they escaped or survived somthing they shouldnt have been able to, and it plays a plot role, in terms of perhaps they were let go and tracked, or one of them is an imposter, sg1 actually had decent writing, most of the time

The Major, nailing it on the head again!!!

Nice edit. Very well done. Lol, absolutely loved it.

And the worst thing is, SG-1 did it as a Joke.

It's really sad that campy 50s era sci-fi movies like "Plan 9 From Outer Space" actually make more sense than "Picard." SMH.

This is what happens when new people (writers) come in and believe they are better than the original Star Trek writers. But in reality they just sit at home watching old sci-fi reruns and steal those plots.

This makes me want to rewatch SG-1

They absolutely did predict that. The Picard double head rub at the end emphasizing frustration is a nice touch👍🏻

Hey guys, do you remember how Carter said in the very first episode that it doesn't matter if her genitals are inside or outside? That one can also be a reference to future shows, where being a woman makes any character flawless.

Right. The quality of TV series writing has really gone down. Plumbing the depth of the evil that resides in humans is not the same as holding a mirror up to society to point out its failings. Running multiple plot lines simultaneously does not make up for the fact that the plot lines are poor to begin with. Science fiction needs to be more distinguishable from a horror show. This was very evident in the first season of Star Trek discovery. Too often the sets are so dark (poorly lit) that the idea of a bright future is lost. We do continue to have high hopes for Star Trek Strange New Worlds. Gene R is still missed. Remember his rules like minimized subterfuge and conflict within the command team. Please before the franchise further degraded.

2 ladies over 50 just sprint 50 yards ducking and dodging fire and they walk in not out of breath and looking like they just walked out of a salon

I loved how every hundredth episode SG1 would do a spoof special about themselves. Funny how for good shows the crew will laugh along with the audience at their shows own flaws, but for bad shows the slightest criticism immediately triggers a meltdown.

This is why I refuse to watch Abrams and Kurtzman Trek, because of crap like this as well as all the ultra-violence, foul language, cynical viewpoints, too much emphasis on PEW-PEW in the battles, too much CGI, awful wokeism, and god knows how many other problems!

When One Life to Live ended all the actors migrated to Star Trek because they all have the range of a d-list daytime soap actor.

When I first saw this episode of Stargate, I thought they were referring to JJ Abrams's star trek.

This editing is beautiful.

Can we just appreciate how awkardly well Picards reactions are placed 🤭😂.

I was really hoping they'd get away from JJ Abrams style Trek, but I guess Kurzman is the new Abrams. I want diversity in my Star Trek. I want positive representation of minorities and a (fictional) future where people are judged on merit alone. But I also want good writing and character arcs that make sense. What I want is DS9 but with a better budget and that pay more than just lip service to the fact that LGBT people do, in fact, exist. What series since DS9 has been able to make the audience absolutely love a war criminal? Hell, love two or three of them: Sisko, Gul Dukat, and Garak could all be called war criminals. And you cared about them. You cared about their families, you cared about the choices they'd made and would make over the series. DS9 made me like Worf, one of the blandest, one-note characters in TNG. It turned O'Brien into a real person instead of just an accent. Just... more of that please.

So glad I can go to a KZfaq channel and find videos on exactly what I’m thinking regarding this sh*t show!

Nice job, best thing about Picard is the scathing youtube reviews lol. 🤣

look how many bullets fly towards them and not a single one graze them :D

Grin's videos are better than Picard

Just starting SG1 with my kids after finishing B-5. Loving it so far. Can't wait til we get here.

They went faster than warp 10 once, Janeway and Chakote turned into Salamanders and mated. Funniest Star Trek moment ever.

i was gonna try watch through picard, last year i watched half way season 1 and felt cringed an stopped, recently was gonna try again but after seeing all the negative shit an saw some clips... i dont think i could stomach it. like why does this keep happening??? and for star wars too. i cant even deal with that shit no more, other then the Mandalorian.... but the movies? i felt cringe the whole time in the sequal trilogy

They are running towards enemies that are firing at them, and one of the strong ladies cuts one of them as he was firing, point-blank. That's the writers literally spitting on the audience.

what episode was that Picard clip at the end from?