Shade as a Drylands Strategy

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Discover Permaculture with Geoff Lawton

Discover Permaculture with Geoff Lawton

Жыл бұрын

The mostly rock and dust soil of the Greening The Desert Project, Jordan had to be rehabilitated. That started with hard-working elements that got the site ready for sophistication and diversity. These original pioneer species were hardy nitrogen-fixers, like Jerusalem Thorn, that could withstand harsh conditions and provide organic material to build fertility pathways for new species. These types of trees were normally a bit thorny.
Prosopis was great pioneer species. Many people hate them because they volunteer on damaged ground, acting like “weeds”. They put out a canopy that swoops right to the earth and shades the tree’s root system. The canopy also helps to catch debris and organic matter, and animals use them for shade. Prosopis can also be easily manipulated by pruning, including coppicing and pollarding for chop-and-drop mulch, making these trees great for starting the sequence of recovery.
Of course, these spiky pioneers had to get large and then be cut to add organic matter to the soil to build soil. They also had to be slowly sequenced out. They were cut when more friendly legumes can be put into place. Once cut, the base kept sending up shoots, which is good for organic material but still thorny. The thorny pioneers, however, can be phased out by cutting all sprouts and leaf growth as low to the stump as possible until the tree finally dies.
Dealing with prunings from these difficult (thorny) trees was a challenge as well. The chop-and-drop mulch had to be cut up into small material before being put on the ground so that it could decompose more quickly. For the larger stuff like logs and tree trunks, GTD dug huge pits, two meters wide and two meters deep. They layered this with manure as they filled the pits, which consumed some 200 pioneering trees. Within a year, the area-one of the most damaged spots on the property - developed strong fungal networks between the pits and plants began to thrive.
The harsh trees, like Prosopis, were then replaced with more agreeable support species, such as Leucaena. These are pruned at the beginning of winter for chop-and-drop each year, but the prunings are no longer covered in spikes, so they can go right to the ground. There are also larger legume trees that can live long-term (Albizzia lebbeck and Poinciana), and they let light in during the winter and provide shade in the summer. Smaller trees like cassia, acacia, neem, casuarina, and hibiscus tilaceus (Rose of Sharon) have added other layers of controlled shade to the mix. Even the southern wall creates shade and makes the area near it more fertile.
By manipulating (pruning) the shade through height, layers, and timing, the growing system can flex with the change of season and what’s happening with the climate. This is how we work with nature rather than opposing it, and the consequence is incredibly rich soil to go along with a hospitable space to grow.
Key Takeaways
- Dryland strategies use hard-working and difficult plants to set the groundwork for soil recovery, which hinges on both the creation of shade and organic matter.
- The original pioneering species for the Greening the Desert Project, trees like Jerusalem thorn and prosopis, were thorny and tough, perfect for surviving in the harsh climate and poor soil.
- Because these thorny species were difficult to use as mulch, they were cut down and buried in pits when the soil had recovered enough to cultivated other support species.
- After the super hardy and rugged pioneers, support species like leucaena, Albizzia lebbeck, Poinciana, cassia, acacia, neem, casuarina, and hibiscus tilaceus helped to further pave the way for productive species.
- In the desert, the game is to manipulate the shade through height, layers, and timing, and with chop-and-drop trees, it’s building soil all the while. This is working with nature.
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@kaalmachannel2707
@kaalmachannel2707 Жыл бұрын
Love all your videos. I live in UK but I am from Somalia. you and late Mr Mollison is the reason I am planning to go back home and live of off my land.. Greening the desert project is by far the best idea I have come across. .God bless you. .
@markthornemarmaduke
@markthornemarmaduke Жыл бұрын
I'll come with you
@malthus101
@malthus101 Жыл бұрын
please do! thank you.
@KeystoneJul
@KeystoneJul Жыл бұрын
Lets do this!
@kaalmachannel2707
@kaalmachannel2707 Жыл бұрын
@@KeystoneJul yes LETS DO THIS 🌹
@kdixuebw7884bfb
@kdixuebw7884bfb Жыл бұрын
Don't forget David Holmgren!!!
@elenarf879
@elenarf879 Жыл бұрын
Whilst daily bad news on TV or in the media make us sick, Geoff provides not just hope, but a proven reality of wellness through productive work and knowledge. Solving all the problems in a garden. Thanks Geoff!
@PkSage89
@PkSage89 8 ай бұрын
This exactly.
@BetterYTAlgo4J
@BetterYTAlgo4J 4 күн бұрын
I like that Geoff just talks to you in these videos. No fancy cuts or graphics. Just the pertinent information. Kudos.
@melissasueferrin3409
@melissasueferrin3409 Жыл бұрын
Here in Southern Mexico, we love Prosopis trees! not only are they at their leafiest at the hottest time of the year. You can eat the pods, and livestock love them too. It has a ton of leaf litter, and you can prune the lower branches to encourage it to go up and it makes an excellent shady spot. It's also great firewood!
@b_uppy
@b_uppy Жыл бұрын
And it regrows from the roots. Great plant!
@victorjre
@victorjre Жыл бұрын
Do you have any tip on how to deal with the fire ants?
@capelandpermaculture5808
@capelandpermaculture5808 Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite trees.
@b_uppy
@b_uppy Жыл бұрын
@@victorjre If they have a 'dormant' season, put vinegar on their nests. I tried it on red ants and it didn't kill them but the offspring seem calmed...
Жыл бұрын
En qué parte de Mexico vives? :))
@RegenerativeMojave
@RegenerativeMojave Жыл бұрын
Loving these new dryland videos!!!! Exactly the knowledge I seek for my greening the desert project, currently working on building a Regenerative silvopasture in the Mojave desert!! Let's green this world!!!
@tiffanywilkerson5569
@tiffanywilkerson5569 Жыл бұрын
I'm in the Mohave desert too! Gardening here is a challenge... black locust and the tree of heaven do pop up on my property on their own though
@RegenerativeMojave
@RegenerativeMojave Жыл бұрын
@@tiffanywilkerson5569 Oh wow, are they popping up in spots that receive irrigation or non- irrigated areas?
@tiffanywilkerson5569
@tiffanywilkerson5569 Жыл бұрын
@@RegenerativeMojave non irrigated! There's a huge established black locust and lots of smaller ones popping up from her roots
@RegenerativeMojave
@RegenerativeMojave Жыл бұрын
@@tiffanywilkerson5569 Now that's awesome!! I'm gonna have to get some of them seeds from you one of these days! 🧡🙏🌲🌳🌴
@tiffanywilkerson5569
@tiffanywilkerson5569 Жыл бұрын
@@RegenerativeMojave for sure, you can come dig up some plants... were selling the house in a few months and most people look at them as weeds. What town are you in? I'm in palmdale
@Lucas_Jeffrey
@Lucas_Jeffrey Жыл бұрын
This is my favorite channel on KZfaq I get so excited when new stuff gets posted!
@beorntwit711
@beorntwit711 Жыл бұрын
Best video for me was 'new waterworks', cause he took us through his Farm. I feel like for all he talks wisely, the more of that productive nature he shows, the more easily people get converted into watching and listening about permaculture. Its like Bob Ross but for actual nature.
@tuffy2242
@tuffy2242 Жыл бұрын
Same 👌
@shovelspade480
@shovelspade480 Жыл бұрын
I was required to kill so many Parkinsonia when i worked in Queensland, Australia. I cherish the experiance of spending days, weeks, months, years getting the know the wilderness more intimatly. I sensed the work i was doing was wrong, i understand things so much better now. 🙏 Thank you Geoff
@OutWestHomestead
@OutWestHomestead Жыл бұрын
Shade is everything in the desert. I'm in southern New Mexico US growing a food forest. Susie
@ryanlove7150
@ryanlove7150 Жыл бұрын
Every day there is a new Geoff Lawton video is a good day in my book. Thank you for answering my question from yesterday's video on this video. I asked what tree was growing up against the wall and if you planted it there and you did. Back in high school I used to watch skateboarding videos to pump me up for skateboarding and go skateboarding all day. Now I watch Geoff Lawton permaculture videos to pump me up for practicing permaculture and practice permaculture all day. You inspire me and have taught me so much! Even though I don't know you directly I can truly say that you are my mentor. Thank you for everything you do Mr. Lawton! Please keep putting out content. You are making a huge difference in my life and helping me make my world better every day! Peace and love from Aromas California!
@breakthroughthemyth3263
@breakthroughthemyth3263 Жыл бұрын
Another benefit of uncompressed spiky mulching in an urban environment is protecting nesting birds from predators. Many thanks Geoff for all your inspiring, pioneering work!
@jessicaheger1880
@jessicaheger1880 20 күн бұрын
I really love how Geoff thanks the tree stump for it's service as he's cutting it back. May we all acknowledge all living beings for the ways they help us 💞
@rehoboth_farm
@rehoboth_farm Жыл бұрын
I remember being horrified when I read an article in Texas Farm Bureau's magazine about how they were spraying mesquite trees from airplanes. I can't remember what the "product" was called but anything that will kill a mesquite from an airplane is just bad news. The idea that people have gotten so lazy that they can't get out a chainsaw and go to work just amazes me. Mesquite is some of the best wood for barbecue in the whole world. Such a great species with so many uses and so capable of living in a harsh environment. What a waste!
@kezzatries
@kezzatries Жыл бұрын
What ignorance, what stupidity.
@christinebottaro9017
@christinebottaro9017 Жыл бұрын
Your comment is so accurate and definitely renews my sadness and anger about the seeming war against nature that humans generally engage in. I’ve read about men dragging heavy chains between tractors across mesquite landscapes, destroying important native ecosystems. A few remarks by Geoff in this video are really important and exciting. Shielding western afternoon light, digging “spikey pits” and filling with “useless” remnants of heavy pruning layered with manure, shade succession, pollarding for best shade, using initial tough pioneer species to begin regreening. On my 1/2-acre property in California, at 2,700 ft elevation, I am trying to do as much reintroduction of local natives that have adapted nicely to low water needs and temps ranging from 25 to 115 degrees during the year.
@rehoboth_farm
@rehoboth_farm Жыл бұрын
@@christinebottaro9017 I'd rather people used tractors and chains than spray defoliant from airplanes. Land management is one thing. Deliberate defoliation from airplanes with poison that is persistent and powerful enough to kill a mesquite tree is something entirely different. Even if they used bulldozers to push them into piles and set them on fire it would provide char for the soil and stimulate the growth of plants that need fire for germination. Personally, I like the idea of using goats to graze the under story of trees like mesquite. I have about 22 acres. About 5 acres is an old pecan orchard planted in the 20's. My neighbors look at me like I'm nuts because I'm letting wild persimmons, locust and oaks grow in my pasture. They just don't understand why I deliberately mow around giant mounds of blackberry vines and plant serecia lespediza. They look at a legume like wild indigo and don't even know what it is before they mow it down like ragweed. Why? They all look at land as a place to grow grass for cows to eat. It's a simplistic model. They can do what they want with their land. I can do with mine as I please. I just don't want their poison drifting onto mine. I hope that your efforts are rewarded with the bounty you desire.
@inharmonywithearth9982
@inharmonywithearth9982 Жыл бұрын
Monsanto Herbicide Corporation men control the USDA. It has been corrupted to such a point that these agencies get paid outragious grants of government money to spray their toxins on any plant or animal Monsanto USDA has deemed invasive on their lists. Invasive species theory is their marketing scam to force their NON biodegradable poison on any natural land or water they want to denude of all life. It is killling the phytoplankton plants in the ocean now and creating vast oxygenless dead zones.
@rehoboth_farm
@rehoboth_farm Жыл бұрын
@@inharmonywithearth9982 Yeah. It's strange how they are constantly trying to convince people that legumes are evil. It doesn't matter if it is clover in someone's lawn, serecia lespediza in Kansas or the NATIVE mesquite tree in Texas. They want us to believe that these plants are a blight to be irradiated. So far Texas hasn't gone too crazy about forcing these policies. In Kansas they will steal your land if you refuse to spray lespediza which was originally planted by the government for soil remediation. It's even used as a natural goat wormer. Now the EU is telling Dutch farmers that they need to reduce the NITROGEN in their soil? WTAF?
@GFY_66
@GFY_66 Жыл бұрын
Love these videos. Having a hard time here in Andalucia, Spain. These videos give me hope although I cannot plant the tropical trees you use as I am too high up, in a lower hardiness zone. 🙏🏼
@kohtime
@kohtime Жыл бұрын
Leucaena?
@LK-3000
@LK-3000 Жыл бұрын
@Hendrik Huevel I agree. I also ascribe to what David the Good says about pushing the zone. If you go by what you "aren't supposed to be able to grow," you'll never find varieties of plants that can adapt to the conditions you're in. if you give them what they need, they'll grow.
@ajb.822
@ajb.822 Жыл бұрын
Besides "pushing the zone" I would try ( and personally I would prioritize) seeking what IS hardy to your climate and in particular, especially if $ or resources make this the best fit, what is already there/"likes" to thrive there. Search for permaculture tree/plant nurseries in Spain or nearby in similar climates, they may be able to really help you. If you can't find any, reach out to Richard Perkins of Ridgedale permaculture in Sweden, he has done work all over the world and has taught a lot too, and probably knowns people in Spain, who know people &/or resources to help you . Also do an internet search using the key words of your climate ( plants for arid, mountain, cold, high desert climates ; for example ) then check with local nurseries for those plants, but also ask them what they recommend. Once you get a bunch of really hardy stuff established, creating windbreaks, feeding the soil & so on, then I would risk experimenting with less-hardy things. Remember to use animals as much as you can, and grow whatever you can for their food, and not just vegetables and grains, but meal worms or etc. maybe too ( for chickens). Maybe a tough breed of goats or sheep would be best for your area though.
@franziskani
@franziskani Жыл бұрын
It _can_ get fairly cold in the desert as well AND if your trees would die off in a cold spell every 10 years, you would still profit from them these 10 years. Moreover: you could maybe cover the ground so whatever happens above ground does not affect the roots and the undground stays warmer thanks to insulation. Prosopis has 20 - 24 m deep roots and they found one that was / is digging 48 m deep. Such a plant is not easily frozen to death. When you can regrow from a vast roots network, you can skip a lot of developing stages. So even if an extreme cold event would take the above ground growth, they'll bounce back within two years. AND: you do not lose the fungal networks between the trees, so that continues to work for you.
@franziskani
@franziskani Жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly Leucaenia is considered an invasive species in some areas (warm and more moisture). Certainly not in Jordan it is too dry. So you would have to research that feature. In Spain there are more winter rains. And if you do not control your prosopis it might also go rampant. - I also think there must be some hardy native trees / bushes.
@farisasmith7109
@farisasmith7109 Жыл бұрын
Wow! I remember when you first started this project. The difference is amazing. You gave me the courage to start my own food forest. We also have very thorny trees like this. I have one large one that is still there for shade. We may let passion fruit vines grow into it to cover it. Your videos are inspiring.
@tricky1992000
@tricky1992000 Жыл бұрын
It's so obvious, ecological succession is something that has been studied for decades. Geoff should get a lot more credit as an expert on desert ecological succession not just as a permaculturalist.
@leonardostankevicius4088
@leonardostankevicius4088 Жыл бұрын
but being a permaculturalist means that too 😁
@fwfeo
@fwfeo Жыл бұрын
This a great example of what you can achieve with knowledge and determination! Literally growing a fruit forest in middle of desert! ❤
@LuisSoto-bx7ey
@LuisSoto-bx7ey 11 ай бұрын
Love your videos Geoff, l learn a lot from them l always say that you must be proud knowing that have given so much of your knowledge to this world, we need more Geoffs in this world, got bless all your team
@melissasueferrin3409
@melissasueferrin3409 Жыл бұрын
You can add fruit to Prosopis. I've grown its best friend dragon fruit, but also chayote squash and passion fruit in my Mesquite tree.
@catherinebrown8934
@catherinebrown8934 Жыл бұрын
how do you do that? I am in the uS southwest with plenty of mesquites.
@melissasueferrin3409
@melissasueferrin3409 Жыл бұрын
@@catherinebrown8934 in the case of dragon fruit, you need a section of the vine, it's best if it's already rooted, you can find a lot of tutorials on KZfaq about starting dragon fruit. Then plant it right next to the trunk. The dragon fruit will release aerial roots to take hold of the mesquite bark. In the case of Chayote squash just drop a whole chayote in loose soil near the base of the tree, chayotes love to climb. Passion fruit, will also look for something to climb, but needs a bit more root space and help at first. You can plant it about 2 feet from the trunk of a tree but give it a trellis to reach the first branches.
@MartinaSchoppe
@MartinaSchoppe Жыл бұрын
I keep posting these videos on FB, because, even though I'm in Germany, I see lots of fotos of garden containing mostly brown baked, dry lawn, and people JUST complain about the droughts. Of course we can't (or rather, don't even have to) use the same species of trees to "plant the shade" but the same principles apply. But people don't seem to catch on. It's getting dryer and warmer here, so plant meditereanean trees... Well, maybe not: we'll have a few very wet years and the plants won't like that, and they will probably like our cold WET winters less. If people would just plant for shade (which can be reduced by pruning, if it gets "too shady) and to produce bio mass to build up the soil... But we are still on the "make Germany a desert" trip :(
@carbon1255
@carbon1255 Жыл бұрын
I think the soil is probably drained- or the grass is- I see that with people that never allow their grass to seed. They think cutting regular is better but they end up with weak roots and not allow new propogation. Grass has to be a certain height to do its job retaining moisture also. That and cranefly leatherjackets can just plain eat up the root systems if they are weak. Also people often cut the grass and then put it in a bin to be taken away- there are only so many times your soil can support that. There is moss as well, if you don't scarify. You can look after a grass system in German climate the bigger issue is people don't understand it at all. If Spain can do it-
@franziskani
@franziskani Жыл бұрын
@@carbon1255 there is "grass" and meadows and then there is "lawn". Which is a completely unnatural form of growth. An adivce from a lawn expert if someone has moss or weeds. Fertilize more and cut it at least once or twice a week. Now that is completely unnatural. and if there are some roots left of course only very few types of grass will survive, you can get rid of moss and weeds that way. it is also a very high maintainance crop.
@franziskani
@franziskani Жыл бұрын
@@carbon1255 Lawn is suprisingly bad in soaking up water - well of course, the pampered grass forms dense mats of shallow roots that depend on being watered all the time, and if you dare not water them during a hot spell it will quickly get ugly. - this is even an issue with heat pumps. The heat extracted from underground (during winter) must be regenerated, and that mostly happens with rain (that soaks in and rain is warmer, maybe only 1 degree or 2 degrees more than soil, but it adds up). So flower beds or a rarely cut lawn (more a meadow) would be good. Gravel on the surface is also good to regenerate heat underground - not for biodiversity or when it comes to cooling the area. Lawn is not that good either when it comes to letting the rain soak in. If there are downpours and water can flow off - it will, because the perfect English lawn is that bad when it comes to soaking up water.
@franziskani
@franziskani Жыл бұрын
One advantage of the short English lawn is ticks - those are kept down with a lot of mowing. So I see a compromise (depending on the age of children and how you want to use the garden, for instance playing soccer or badmington) and putting up some perenial groundcover in less frequented spaces that you can occasionallly walk on and that you do not need to water or care for (and will not mow more than once during the season. At the maximum). Even strawberries (the smaller ones, that have smaller fruit but all season long - "forest strawberries, monthly strawberries") can do that job. They maintain a nice green cover under sheer and utter neglect and no watering, in a fairly sunny spot and during a hot July and August - ask me how I know ;) Which may explain why they had almost no fruits and not very many air roots (that I could discern as young shoots). June was wet so maybe they were done with propagation by mid July and saved their energy in July and August. But they also require almost no care, and provide an intact green cover. And you can step on them, although their area does not get a lot of action. The strawberries quickly occupy all the space if you give them some initial help (shallow digging of the soil, carton cover of ground, mulch on it !, if possible let that sit for 1 month, but that is not a must. Mulch shoved aside, strawberries planted into holes that you tear into the wet carton. And then put back the mulch on top - 2 cm minimum - can be more (so the carton will not dry out and almost become water repelling). The mulch-covered carton stays moist, worms will decompose it, but until then it serves as "tarp" and prevents other plants from growing. In one season the stawberries will dominate the space you prepared for them. And with the mulch the carton does not look bad (just use brown, matte carton with no print on it, if some carton can be seen through the mulch cover it does not look good. I did not mind the look of shreddered branch / foliage look, it goes well with a natural environment. The carton / mulch prevents that deep rooting persistent weeds that you do not want, have little chance to establish themselves - the space will be quickly taken by the plants you chose, infrequent, minimum weeding will do. And as strawberries are said to have shallow roots * they are easy to remove if you want to grow something else. If interested in propagation tips - read on. * Well strawberries do go a little deeper - and you can see that if you try to dig out plants - if they were never spoiled with watering, fertilizer and had to make do with unamended loamy, dense soil. However they are easy to kill if you cover them with a tarp or carton layers, they are not like persistent deep rooting weeds. Or even worse plants that use rhizomes to propagate. Those are the most annyoing weeds. The airroots of strawberries are an effictive growth strategy but gardeners can keep strawberries easily enough in check or replace them. There are also blue flowering plants that on can allegedly walk on, those are a good fit for ground cover. Isotoma Blue Foot® (Isotoma fluviatilis). Not sure how heat tolerant they are, or if they bounce back if you have to let them dry up (watering bans) - but everything is better than the classic lawn. You can search with groundcover to replace lawn. Strawberries mostly procreate with air roots, the stawberry grows a line on which you have one or several shoots / air roots. In German they are called "Kindling". But be warned they also form mats if you let the small strawberries grow as groundcover (this time the mats are above ground, so that is good for soaking in rain) - the major advantage of that: it is also hard to get young plants for a productive strawberry bed from that ground cover. It is difficult to discern how old the plants are, and all the lines are crossing, so it is even hard to find which are the youngest plants that have established their roots in the ground inbetween the older plants - it is such a intransparent situation. Following the lines to find out what is a mother plant and what are the plants that grew from it (and how old these are) is almost impossible. And if you want fruits (not only care-free ground cover) you have to work with young plants and replace them after a few years (and also change the location where you grow them). We have such an old (fairly old) strawberry groundcover patch in the garden - they were almost matted including all the strings between the former airroots (now mostly established plants). Digging out a few (hoping they are not too old) and planting those in a pot for some coddling until late summer did not work too well either. Taking them from the edges (where the young shoots ventured into non-strawberry territory - even tarmac) worked best. There you could distinguish what IS a new plant, and give it the VIP treatment. Putting them into a pot standing nearby the mother plant, the line to the mother plant still intact worked best. What you could do is covering a stripe (not wide) with carton, putting good soil on it and waiting until the mature plants rush to send over their air roots. Then you can put up small pots (or even better dig those pots into the soil to minimize evaporation losses, or you cover the little pots with mulch). And put the airroots into the pots. The "umbilical cord" to the mother plant is left intact, so the young sprout with the tiny roots still gets nutrients and water from the mother plant. Because of the special treatment those young shoots can establish good roots quickly and you can plant them in late summer - if you want to set up a bed for fruits, or you need lots of plants for cover ground without paying a lot - this would be a method. (and getting some young shoots from friends and neighbours in summer, although they may not use the pot method and then you need to invest more care into the young plants. Once you have a colony established it is easy to help them cover more ground - but they are not rampant. They will venture into English lawn territory but if you mow them that will finish those pioneers off, no weeding needed. And I do not think you need to set up "borders" with wood or concrete border stones etc. either. Just define a line where you run the lawn mower. What grows on the wrong side of the line is in bad luck.
@rehoboth_farm
@rehoboth_farm Жыл бұрын
This year I've been growing a lot of vegetables in a pecan orchard under story. I've had a lot more luck growing everything from squash to tomatoes this way. All of my other vegetable systems seem to be struggling to cope with the intense sunlight even with regular watering with drip irrigation. I personally think that in my climate vegetables need some shade to thrive. I don't live anywhere as extreme as the dead sea valley but I think the lesson is the same.
@itzakpoelzig330
@itzakpoelzig330 Жыл бұрын
What part of the country are you in, and how are the pecans doing?
@angel21991
@angel21991 Жыл бұрын
My god ! He is like the Bob Rose of permaculture. Every sentence is a treasure strove of information.
@Alextodd007
@Alextodd007 Жыл бұрын
Hello anjali
@Willsing7
@Willsing7 Жыл бұрын
I live in Tucson and my mesquite trees needed trimming. Now I know what to do with the trim! Mesquite was considered a sacred tree by the local Native American tribes. Now I know why. Thanks for posting!
@melindawolfUS
@melindawolfUS Жыл бұрын
Thanks for teaching me about mesquite trees :) There's a variety in my area that provides an edible and highly nutritious seed for humans (though I don't have a taste for it, I WOULD eat it if I was hungry). I'll plant a bunch of them when I move to Vegas and start my new garden.
@asktheanimals
@asktheanimals Жыл бұрын
This is great timing. Thanks, Geoff! I just got access to a plot on the Western Slope of Colorado. Different plants to consider for this locale, but I am watching the volunteers, & keeping some of them. Especially the edible ones. 🦋🌻
@tewtravelers9586
@tewtravelers9586 Жыл бұрын
I wish our politicians shared your interests, knowledge, and experiences. Truly inspired project!
@christisBack3168
@christisBack3168 Жыл бұрын
This is a Huge difference since you began this project. Lessons here for so gardeners.Great job!!!
@rhonalow3271
@rhonalow3271 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant!! I live in SW western Australia with a warm temperate climate, and there is so much here that I can apply to my garden. Thanks for showing me “outside the square”.
@Littlewoods_permaculture
@Littlewoods_permaculture Ай бұрын
How’s your garden this year ? Mine very crispy (I’m near Pemberton)
@jhosk
@jhosk Жыл бұрын
In parts of Texas the mesquite tree is prized, it's the cause for a distinct flavor in Texas BBQ. Another tree to look into is Osage Orange, just a hard to kill tree. We have a rule we follow on the farm, if we cut a tree down then we plant 3 more.
@Littlewoods_permaculture
@Littlewoods_permaculture Ай бұрын
We’ve planted about 400 trees on our place. One of the only farms that still have water in our dams
@peggyhelblingsgardenwhatyo7920
@peggyhelblingsgardenwhatyo7920 Жыл бұрын
Greetings, Geoff, from Windermere, Florida zone 9b USA 🇺🇸 I have watched every one of your videos that pop up 👍 I loved watching the collaboration when you helped out the Weedy Gardener with his Permaculture site. I only have a small residential lot, but I have been Gardening for over 50 years and I am a Vermiculturalist since 2009. I have evolved to no-dig organic with rich Worm Castings 🪱 Little by little we can change the world 🌎 one patch at a time ❤️
@PsychicIsaacs
@PsychicIsaacs Жыл бұрын
Paulownia tomentosa and Solanum laciniatum are marvellous shade trees in a semi-arid climate. They grow quickly, have good shade and coppice well, paulownias make wood (firewood and timber) and laciniatums (Kangaroo apples) make hundreds of delicious berries.
@PsychicIsaacs
@PsychicIsaacs Жыл бұрын
Both are pioneer species as well...
@Winter_IsHere
@Winter_IsHere Жыл бұрын
I am new to vegetables gardening but I decided that everything that comes out of the garden had to stay in the garden. Weeds to start with, as mulch or nitrogen fixers (did not know that but understood it was food), on the soil or digged in. It became clear that leaves mainly belong on top of the soil to cover the soil from direct sunlight. Branches can go on top or in the soil (hugel culture). When deciding to cut trees to create space for vegetable garden I left the root system where it was, degrading over time, a natural hugel culture. Digging a hole and dump all green material is old practice, tidy too, natural composting speed. Everybody that cleaned a patch of land noticed how moist and fertile the soil is below a heap of degraded leaves and branches. Why: there is food and water. Water that evaporates slowly. Moist that creates a colder area for condensation at night: water attracts water.
@wayfaringfarmer2724
@wayfaringfarmer2724 Жыл бұрын
We use mesquite, Huisache, and leucana retusa here in the Texas dry lands for our keystone species for establishing shade
@Technoanima
@Technoanima 5 ай бұрын
They are great as a barbeque wood too!
@Somewhere-In-AZ
@Somewhere-In-AZ Жыл бұрын
Beautiful. We have similar vegetation in the Sonoran desert.
@kenyenmusic7548
@kenyenmusic7548 7 ай бұрын
This is one of the greatest videos of all time
@bettyledbetter5644
@bettyledbetter5644 Жыл бұрын
these vids have changed my life for the better.
@got2kittys
@got2kittys Жыл бұрын
I live in high desert in Arizona, USA. My gardening requires shade for many plants, as the sun is much too intense much of the year.
@timeparticles
@timeparticles Жыл бұрын
Great info for our drought in Southern California. Thanks.
@devdeuce93
@devdeuce93 Жыл бұрын
Palo verde tree is our equivalent to this nitrogen fixer
@Skookman
@Skookman 5 ай бұрын
What you call spiky pits, we call a sponge. It’s used to hold water on the land and slow release water to surrounding plants. It also gives our waste trimmings a second vocation rather than being piled and being a fire hazard.
@funnywolffarm
@funnywolffarm Жыл бұрын
We bury our spiky Mesquite 'extras' in pits here in Texas sometimes. Takes them many years to really break down but they are still spongey until that point at least. Thanks for the video, as always.
@victorjre
@victorjre Жыл бұрын
Please give me more details. It sounds like a good idea
@insAneTunA
@insAneTunA Жыл бұрын
Hi Geoff, I found this new video with absolutely superb information about nitrogen fixation and what bacteria are actually doing in the soil, with video footage from the actual bacteria, and how they work in symbiosis with plant roots to provide them with Nitrogen in trade for nutrients from the plants for the bacteria. The video is called, Getting to the Root of Nitrogen Fixation. And to my opinion this is an excellent video which helps to explain and visualize to people how those processes happen and what it looks like and how important a healthy soil with lots of bio mass where these micro organisms can live really is. Now you can show the actual bacteria in situ instead of just talking about it. I mean, I am totally excited about it, so that's why I want to share it with you and your subscribers. :-)
@benscanlan4818
@benscanlan4818 Жыл бұрын
Could you please share the video in your comments?
@insAneTunA
@insAneTunA Жыл бұрын
@@benscanlan4818 The video is called, Getting to the Root of Nitrogen Fixation. The channel name is Journey to the microcosmos. You need to copy and paste the title in the youtube search bar and search for it by yourself. I can't make it any easier for you.
@insAneTunA
@insAneTunA Жыл бұрын
@@benscanlan4818 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z61je7Bo0ZuseaM.html
@insAneTunA
@insAneTunA Жыл бұрын
@@benscanlan4818 Could you let me know if the link works? Not all the channel owners allow it that links are being shared in the comment section.
@benscanlan4818
@benscanlan4818 Жыл бұрын
@@insAneTunA yeah it works mate. Thank you. Will let you know when I've watched it, would love to have someone to talk to about this kind of topic.
@Space_Trucker
@Space_Trucker Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! This site is one of my favorites and I love seeing updates about it. So wonderful to get to watch these long-form videos.
@gm2407
@gm2407 Жыл бұрын
Your site looks like a piece of paradise on earth. Wonderful work.
@topkek_
@topkek_ Жыл бұрын
Amazing video, thanks Geoff! I'm astounded by the size of some of the trees there, wow! Beautiful property!
@lawrencemckeon6802
@lawrencemckeon6802 Жыл бұрын
Nettles grow really well just outside of a chicken area on my farm. Very nutritious, grows well at the edge of barns, abandoned buildings with manure soil. Makes a damn good omelette, nettle shoots in the spring, fried with garlic and lemon.
@tuffy2242
@tuffy2242 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Geoff. Really love this- and all your in depth talks. They are hopeful, helpful and so encouraging. Food for the soul, and for life. Thanks 🙏
@kirkha100
@kirkha100 Жыл бұрын
Haven’t even finished the video yet. I am very excited. I’ve sprouted Prosopis Glandulosa, maybe P. Velutina with some hybridization from parent plants with a pretty upright habit. Scarification with an overnight warm water soak and plant in medium with temps in the mid to high 90s. 100% germination. I’ve watched them migrate gradually north and up in elevation. I’m in Piñion-juniper highlands of the upper limits of upper Sonoran desert in S.W. United States. We haven’t never had Prosopis this high. It used to get cold. No more. Our Piñions(Pinus Edulis)are dying. One seed Junipers are stressed. Siberian elm are encroaching upon riparian zones. We have to do triage. There will be Piñións persisting in small sheltered populations, but their range is much diminished. Salt Cedars or tamarisks are expanding ranges also. I’d rather have the Mesquites. I’ve made a coffee substitute from ground mesquite beans. It’s quite good. I’ve made flour tortillas from a mix of wheat and mesquite flour. Sugar content is remarkable. Wood is good for fuel and small tool handles. I’ve planted three so far. Siberian Elm(Ulmus Pumila) samaras are tasty when small. Wood is long fibered and tough, good for long tool handles, bows, furniture. Can be steam bent. These trees are good nurse trees for smaller herbaceous plants. People complain about beloved species dying off. I don’t believe that can be stopped. I think we need to assist tougher, more drought resistant, heat resistant species to travel north and up in elevation. We will not be reversing the changes we are seeing. Something has to fill the voids created by climate change. This is observable within one lifetime now. I’m 66. We are in triage. Opportunities for a sort of ecological purity or original state restored are over. I think we need to prepare for adaptation and survival strategies. We can assist by creating landrace varieties, dehybridizing, expanding tougher species range deliberately to fill voids left by die-offs caused by ranges that no longer support original native species. This is heartbreaking, but means assisting natural selective pressures instead of resisting them. It will be a very different landscape, but it will still be alive.
@kirkha100
@kirkha100 Жыл бұрын
About half way through. This is just so wise. In the American Southwest, the pioneer plants, the foundation components are all here. People got to get over the prejudice against trees and shrubs that have arrived and represent an effort by Gaia to replace what’s lost with something that will still work.
@crazyforlazystopmotion3735
@crazyforlazystopmotion3735 Жыл бұрын
Education is a base for change our world!
@rjsheffer2
@rjsheffer2 11 ай бұрын
I have great respect for Geoff Lawton And I get the appropriateness of the choices on this site. Perfect example of how permaculture is a flexible thing with site taken into account So...In a way this is kind of funny, because for me, mesquite (AKA prosopis) is is both my pioneer strategy and one of my long-term fruit trees with some variation taken into account. When a mesquite tree doesn't have tasty pods I cut the tree down and I save the wood for smoking foods and the branches get chopped up for mulch. When I'm lucky enough to have a tree with good pods, I nurture the tree and eat the pods. It's fun watching all the strategy getting rid of something that is an incredibly valuable resource in my ecosystem. Not much of my mesquite ends up in pits or as compost. Although I do lay it down as mulch.
@tiffanywilkerson5569
@tiffanywilkerson5569 Жыл бұрын
I'm in the mojave desert, a few other species I see that are naturalized for me here are the tree of heaven & black locust.
@wildoliveacre
@wildoliveacre Жыл бұрын
I can't quite find a word to describe the way I feel about the two "dryland strategy" videos. I'm sure this level of energy and attention to detail delivered with such an artistic sensibility takes its toll and is not easy to create, but I am really hoping that this will be a long and fruitful series. For whatever reason, these two films have helped so much with bringing my understanding of permaculture into coherence in a practical sense. I'm very appreciative and am eagerly awaiting the next in the series!
@CharlesGann1
@CharlesGann1 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate these walk throughs and comparisons of where this site came from and how its arrived at this amazing point. Glad to know and see the other sites. Like Abila, the schools, and other community sites that have sprung up. Would be a neat video to highlight those starting with the student from the. First greening of the Desert . Showing a compilation of the community impact. At times its sad to see the lands near and next to the site still as desolate as when you started but it has been a evolutionary process and appreciate the dedication and sacrafice to plant this site and the inspiration its been around the world! Peace
@itsrachelfish
@itsrachelfish Жыл бұрын
I had to watch this at 2x speed, but other than that it's really an amazing demonstration of how desert plants evolved to create their own shade and mulch. Fascinating!
@louisegogel7973
@louisegogel7973 Жыл бұрын
The tiny thorns collecting moisture in the air to give them an advantage in such dry conditions. Nurture and appreciate the volunteer pioneers who do the work to start the land regaining productive fertility. Work with the pioneer sequence to build to lushness over time. The Presopus is the one tree in the desert which lives in the most dry climates and provides shade and mulch! Thank you as always, Geoff, for what and the way share this helpful and oh so precious information!
@MassiveChetBakerFan
@MassiveChetBakerFan Жыл бұрын
I take my hat off to you, Mr. Lawton, and I also take my hat off to the wonderful Prosopis tree.
@alfredpomerleau3397
@alfredpomerleau3397 Жыл бұрын
So appreciate your pioneering. Thanks
@loneforest6541
@loneforest6541 Жыл бұрын
we need more videos like this to know how u arrange trees for hot climate.
@courtneyheron1561
@courtneyheron1561 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a million Geoff! 🙏👍😊
@tophercIaus
@tophercIaus Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the part at 3:05 where you go to hand gesture and a bug comes out of nowhere, looking like you're ready to fight it.
@daleireland
@daleireland Жыл бұрын
Brilliant update 👌
@chiefetwful
@chiefetwful Жыл бұрын
Outstanding video.
@martybartfast1
@martybartfast1 Жыл бұрын
Great listening and watching. Thank you so much for the continued learning. Spread the word, the soil and the seed Sir! You are Legend, Lore and Love in my mind, heart and spirit. Peace be upon you; even more than it is. You are a Healer; and no mistake. m
@lp2155
@lp2155 Жыл бұрын
Amazing! Thanks everybody!
@rjsheffer2
@rjsheffer2 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget that mesquite provides edible pods that make excellent flour. The quality of the pods can vary from tree to tree there's a lot of genetic variation. It's not just a pioneer tree it's an excellent crop and firewood tree. This isn't hearsay I've lived this for years, decades in fact. Sonoran desert here.
@andreaminchio8968
@andreaminchio8968 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Geoff your explanations are always very clear and easy to understand and put to work.
@dawsondrake6237
@dawsondrake6237 2 ай бұрын
We call our Prosopis trees in the US "Mesquite", most of the varieties native to the Southwest have edible seed pods, homesteaders used to grind them into a flour substitute.
@ahmedmabrouk9891
@ahmedmabrouk9891 Жыл бұрын
thanks for these videos
@tesha199
@tesha199 Жыл бұрын
My Sensei, time flies by so easily listen to your lessons. This Earth, we call home, is so grateful to have you here. I wish you a long and joyous life 🙏
@tesha199
@tesha199 Жыл бұрын
These lessons can be applied in many different desert areas around the world, which are the main problematic areas on this planet.
@byrdhemenway1213
@byrdhemenway1213 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos you are a real hero thank u for making the world green
@felipevilches7128
@felipevilches7128 Жыл бұрын
👏👏👏👏👏 Thank you Geoff!
@margriethover1
@margriethover1 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful site you have created. Your video’s are so wonderfull. Thank you.
@inharmonywithearth9982
@inharmonywithearth9982 Жыл бұрын
We should make much more use of the miraculous Carob Trees. Ceratonia Siliqua. When mature it always covers the entire ground with very edible thick high protein pods and LIKES Extreme heat and Extreme droughts - - but it cannot survive cold below freezing point down to 20 degrees Fahrenheit or 6 degrees celsius.
@tamarahimmelstrand8985
@tamarahimmelstrand8985 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful and inspiring. I've also just learnt a whole lot.
@FaisalKhan-jg6kg
@FaisalKhan-jg6kg Жыл бұрын
Love it , very educational and will experiment with some ideas .
@DAVESLINGER
@DAVESLINGER Жыл бұрын
Excellent thanks.
@gm2407
@gm2407 Жыл бұрын
In the Antarctic the Penguines rotate shielding each other from the cold winds maintaing warmth in the centre. In permaculture trees activating their growth of foliage shield each other from the sun cooling the undercanopy for growth of less heat resistant plants.
@antoniodossantos5960
@antoniodossantos5960 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Geoff 🌎 The Planet deserves a lot more from us.
@heatherbailey8594
@heatherbailey8594 Жыл бұрын
That was fantastic
@stonemountaincreations3459
@stonemountaincreations3459 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@deniseb4426
@deniseb4426 Жыл бұрын
Incredible!
@LuisSoto-bx7ey
@LuisSoto-bx7ey Ай бұрын
Hi Geo, in Mexico and the U.S. we have a similar tree for shade, it calls Mesquite tree. Congratulations with all your projects they are very helpful
@brianguetzlaff2761
@brianguetzlaff2761 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic look into the history and roles of succession and shade there at GTD (which I am hoping to one day visit in person :) ). Some questions I had about your original planting of prosopis: How densely did you originally plant them? Did you put in earthworks first, or did they co-evolve? How did your source mulch (if any) for the original planting, and how many did you originally put in? As you can tell, I'm very interested in how your team bootstrapped all this and kickstarted the cycle of fertility, and would love to see more information about that. I'm guessing you'll do similarly with the plot next door? I'm excited to see the progress!
@richermorin
@richermorin Жыл бұрын
really amazing
@hhwippedcream
@hhwippedcream Жыл бұрын
The sweetest berries have the cruelest thorns.
@jarrohyndman9430
@jarrohyndman9430 Жыл бұрын
Really great content give thanks
@willisplummer
@willisplummer Жыл бұрын
thanks geoff i'm gonna try a similar pit concept but a papaya circle in my yard
@guillaumeLM
@guillaumeLM 11 ай бұрын
magnifique exemple d'organisation végétal dans l'espace et dans le temps, dans un contexte si difficile en plus, ça donne de l'espoir pour le pourtour méditerranée thank you
@davidb9059
@davidb9059 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant 😊
@javorgeorgiev6130
@javorgeorgiev6130 9 ай бұрын
This gave me the idea to try using corn in the summer to partially shade the veggies around it. It turned out quite alright. I don't notice anything being stunted and nothing has wilted even during the hottest hours. The veggies on the side my parents use either got burnt, or keep producing inedible fruit that has to go straight to the chickens. Summers have been getting hotter and dryer with each year. Snowless winters too. They did poke fun at me when I said I'm trying to control how much sun heat the veggies receive and not intending to fully cover them up.
@AmzBackyardOrchardandVineyard
@AmzBackyardOrchardandVineyard Жыл бұрын
greetings from Arizona zone 9B. thanks for all the tips and tricks! we have started our food forest 6 years ago and have over 40 varieties of fruit trees, grape vines, garden variety vegetables and berries! we also collect over 400 gallons of rainwater we use all over our property. Cheers!
@tanakakokilovad1594
@tanakakokilovad1594 Жыл бұрын
Planty a millions trees 🌱🌲. Save many many life 🌳🌱🌿🍃🐦🕊🦜🦅🦋🧓👴👧👨
@richardmang2558
@richardmang2558 Жыл бұрын
@ 13:58 Dang! those are some mean lookin' spikes! The frilly soft looking leaves are very deceptive. Very similar spikes to what grows on a Kei Apple.
@duytran-vi1pi
@duytran-vi1pi Жыл бұрын
More please!
@releventhurt
@releventhurt Жыл бұрын
Cool, inspiring, amazing, and fun to be apart of the maintaince and day to day you do man! Thanks for helping to shine some light on volunteer species and help me to understand they can definitely be useful if used in the correct ways
@HFTL666
@HFTL666 Жыл бұрын
Phenomenal!!!
@wendyhusband4048
@wendyhusband4048 Жыл бұрын
What a great video Geoff 👍 I am a - 'Prosopis' convert now for sure after seeing the positive impacts of this spiky powerhouse species 😁 I love your use of such a wide range of terminology in this video with practical examples as you go. ' Time stacking, compost corridor, pioneers, willing volunteers, sophisticated legumes, designing permanence, epicormic growth, harmonic/ dendrobic patterns, edge effect, succession cycle, deposition organic material, pioneer sequences etc. Such an educational video, (one of your best 😉) Thank you 💚
@hannahmakingrivendell4347
@hannahmakingrivendell4347 Жыл бұрын
This is incredibly uplifting. Try8ng to work out these principles in phoenix. If humanity can green large deserts of the world, we have so much to do. God bless you!!!
@devdeuce93
@devdeuce93 Жыл бұрын
Take advantage of your palo verde!
@MrGrant7000
@MrGrant7000 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff yet again Geoff!!! I've been following the greening the desert videos since the beginning, and the leaps and bounds that site has made in just a few years is truly a work of art!!! I still pick up names of new species (thanks for labeling them. lol) I can try on my desert site here in the Namib Desert on every video I watch!! Can't wait to meet you in person in East London, South Africa in September!!
@gm2407
@gm2407 Жыл бұрын
What is going on with the site next door? Did you say you are responsible for that now? Will there be more greenery to come? Sounds exciting. I wonder if an increase precipitation has been in the area since your site has become established.
@tonisee2
@tonisee2 Жыл бұрын
Almost for sure the site at Jordan is way too small to induce additional rainfall. When more and more people see that possibility and have persistence to work with nature, hopefully there is once the time when combined sites would do. E.g. ca 70% of land protected from Sun by reasonably covering vegetation with size in a linear dimensions of many tens if not few hundreds of kilometers, combined with well analysed water-harvesting earthworks in strategic locations. Currently there is nothing to loose, so I would rather question: why not to try if good examples as that site in Jordan proves that it is possible.
@businesspsychology9877
@businesspsychology9877 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@toffeebluenose7331
@toffeebluenose7331 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure I've read the rain forests in South american was desert before and man use techniques in bio chard to grow the rain forests. I've buired two of my dogs that passed away but I planted an apple tree and a plumb tree on top,trees are flourishing. you an use dead cattle,sheep,goats. birds,
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