quote: "it truly, truly baffles me that a country as *developed* as America" I see where your thinking went awry...

This is what happens when you let religion rule over your government body, with the inclusion of heavy lobbying.

Birth control is $8-$20 a month. women can buy their own. If they have endometriosis WELL THAT'S A MEDICAL CONDITION AND WOULD BE COVERED. It isn't the taxpayer's responsiblity to bankroll your fun medication, it isn't their job to bankroll anything for you.

Except roads, and emergency services, and schools, and a standing military, and unemployment services, and...

My birth control is $60, please

I have a condition called PCOS which means I am both infertile and completely hormonally wrecked, including insulin, resulting weight gain, hair growth (including beard), and periods that happen once every 4 or so months and are extremely painful. I cannot go long-term without birth control because my hormone imbalance will eventually steer me towards diabetes and osteoporosis. I need birth control to live.

Randy Randerson I guess Medicare and Medicaid should stop covering Viagra.

This. It's the primary reason a lot of my friends are on birth control.

No one is stopping you from buying birth control. Just pay out of pocket. It's cheaper that way, anyway. Paying with insurance means that the supplier has to have increased administrative bloat simply to get a payment, which drives up costs. Enough with your economically illiterate war on women rhetoric. Learn basic econ.

birth control is under $20 a month. If you can't afford that don't have sex

Randy Randerson, fuck off, dipshit.

Oh wow you sure convinced me. good job *claps*

"Don't have sex" abstinence does not work.

abcvideoyoutuization yes. The fact that the nation will actually save money if they provided free contraception is insane to me. Why do we not want to do the simple thing that helps to serve the public? Well because they aren’t serving the public.

Its not hidden. They hate women and the notion that women are sexual beings.

Also not a lot of great science.

Check out the picture fit channel. I have a BS in applied health sciences and the topics I’m most familiar with that he’s touched on give appropriate nuance, and he does a great job reviewing articles just like here. Strongly recommend

Let's not be coy. The GOP is being deceptive. Because the GOP is religious fundamentalists who just hate women.

tetsubo57 Well, the War on the Environment is succeeding.

Sara Anne Miller And up here in Canada everyone is watching that fire in the US, so our PM is getting away with all kinds of crap and nobody's paying attention! Seriously, Trump's on the front page and Trudeau's latest spending disaster gets buried on page 3 😭😂😨

I don't buy a "NEED" for it

What do you mean you don't buy a need for it? The pill can be used for more than just contraception.

Randy, your personal feelings don't change reality. There are two options here: You can live in a world with more sick women, more abortions that could have been prevented, and more unwanted babies (and so more poverty and crime), or you can live in a world with affordable, accessible birth control. Pick one.

Randy, hormonal birth control is use to treat issues that stem from problems with hormones. This includes polycystic ovary syndrome, Endometriosis, Amenorrhea, Primary Ovarian Insufficiency, Menstrual cramps, and heavy periods to name just a few. Some people also find that their birth control helps with depression and other mental illnesses. Since it is used to treat many medical issues and illnesses I do believe that it fits the definition of "NEED"

Meh, the issue with this would be that you're just playing games to try and avoid the controversy, a controversy that doesn't even exist in any other enlightened country. This is a fight that's going to have to be fraught at some point, better to do it now than put it on our children.

But my religion hurts!

And under the ACA, Employers only have to make employees' insurance affordable (9.5% of income) and simply OFFER family coverage. It's just another way the bossman gets to put one over on the worker. Now that bossman gets to say "we won't cover birth control and if you want to add a kid, it'll cost you $5000 a year in premiums."

Not to mention the employees time off for the birth and YEARS and YEARS of days having to come in late or leave early. Honestly I don't think most employers have a problem with this, neither do most insurance companies... no one really wants to ensure newborns.

But they do. They don't want to pay for BC or the child. It's one reason we have government, to make sure the PEOPLE aren't getting screwed over by the man. Look at FMLA! The government had to MANDATE that employers couldn't fire women after having a child.

Omg right??

Yeah, but those values should be related to how they do business, how they treat their employees and other directly relevant areas. They should also be actively promoted and spread throughout the company. This on the other hand often boils down to the personal values of high-ranking individuals being enforced on the company in general, on areas that have little to do with the actual company. It also doesn't help that it often looks like a CEO trying to use religion and morality as a front so they can get away with paying their employees less.

Quote: "Why not? All companies have company values" Do they? So if a Corporation has "Christian" values, at what point are they held accountable for things that go against core Christian tenants? They aren't. A Corporation can't be "born again", can't believe, can't die, can't be baptized, can't take communion, can't "go to heaven". Nothing that defines a person of the Christian faith applies to a Corporation, therefore how can a Corporation claim Religious Exemptions based on it's Christian faith? Company values are NOT the same as a Constitutionally protected Religious Objection. Boeing has a company value to return profits to its shareholders, but it still has to comply with expensive safety regulations, they can't argue "It's against the corporation's beliefs to install seat-belts in planes" and then actually get away with that. The reason you incorporate in the first place is to separate the owner from legal liability if the company is found at fault, but that needs to work both ways. If the owner (majority owner, CEO, etc.) isn't legally and financially responsible for what the Corporation does, even when the Corporation violates the law, then that isolation should work both ways and the Corporation shouldn't be able to claim the Religious Exemptions of the owner. The Corporation is a separate entity or it isn't, it shouldn't be able to game both sides of the system.

Because corporations are legally humans for the purposes of having human rights and freedoms, but none of the responsibility.

You have health insurance, this is a health issue. Why should this even be an issue?

Nathanael Walsh the private market works best when you can shop around and make decisions. For example if I’m buying a car I could wait until a new model is coming out and try and get a discount when the dealer wishes to make room for more stock, I can look at different dealers and manufacturers or buy 2nd hand. However for healthcare I can’t delay treatment because if I delay treatment I could get sicker or die. I can’t way options because I’m not an expert in health care. I have no ability to negotiate on price because when seeking health care I’m under duress. However governments don’t have those limitations they can act as a buyers club and negotiate from a position of strength having domain knowledge and buying power.

Yeah, it's because it's called personal responsibility, not social responsibility to pay for other peoples' problems.

Randy Randerson Birth control is not exclusive for birth control. It is very effective in helping to keep other health problems in check. My sister had debilitating migraines while not on birth control. I had horrible IBS flare ups that would stop my life for at least a day while not on birth control. I will argue till I die that birth control has social benefits since it helps so many other things besides unwanted pregnancy.

and that should be covered, but only after a doctors recommendation on something that isnt voluntary. I'm all for universal basic healthcare, food, water, even internet access, which is necessary to survive, but past that you should pay for your own stuff.

Plumokin internet access isn't a necessity though. Lots of vital info is available online yes, but libraries and such exist with computer areas. You can live without internet and just go to the library or such to access stuff needed with it. Not to mention, birth control isn't a problem. Its relatively cheap in the overarching view of things to pay for insurances to cover birth control. The cost of it and the exam given to screen for any cervical cancer and such every 1-2 years is lower than the cost of healthcare for prenatal visits and the cost of keeping the mother and child in a hospital. If you want some insight, a vial of the generic for depo provera costs about 100$. The cost of a hospital crib for a baby for one night? Over 1000$. Which would you rather have your money going towards?

Randy Randerson yeah what? Yeah, you're closed-minded and won't change your mind no matter what? Or did you just want a soapbox to proclaim your anarchism? You realize having your kid go to public school, using any form of insurance for anything, and accepting any protection from police or firefighters are **ALL** forms of society footing the bill for **YOUR** problems, right? Though you're welcome to live in the woods and fend for yourself or move to a country without police if you don't like participating in society.

how the hell do you get that from this video? It saves money

It could be the quote at 6:00 that sealed the deal, or it could be the fact that teen pregnancy and birthrates in low income families cost the government far more than simply providing contraception would.

s"pending money saves money" This must be that liberal spending plan that has worked out so well with out defecit...

Yes, spending money wisely saves money. Investing money wisely makes money. How is that liberal? It's in the Bible, FFS. Crazy idea: how about we focus on solving the problem instead of trying to figure out who to blame?

ok, there was a misunderstanding. when I replied it sounded to me like you were against covering birth control, as some others here are.

Chelsea Bishop lololol 😭

Jabberwocky Draco depends. Condoms are best when used with spermicide and the pill. The pill is quite effective but it must be taken very regularly on a strict schedule.

It depends on what other kinds you are referring to. IUDs and the arm inserts are the most effective reversible contraceptives. They are implanted in the body and have the lowest chance for human error. Also see here: www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/birth-control

I did want to mention that there are some medical conditions that due to absolutely necessary life-saving treatments for breast cancer, regular sexual activity is an important tool to help monitor for re-occurrences of cancer, specifically ovarian cancer, which if you have the Bracket 2 genetic marker for breast cancer also means you are at risk of ovarian. Estrogen binding to that type of cancer cell causes the cancer to grow, so the key is to use antigen blockers to bind to the estrogen receptors. Unfortunately, it also binds to ALL estrogen receptors, causing menopause, just like with an elderly woman, even if you're 24 (which my wife is, and has been going through all this). Ovarian cancer cannot really be detected through most types of cancer screenings, and by the time it spreads and can be seen on a test, it is too late for the patient. The best way to judge that there may be a new incident of sex organ based cancer in this situation is a noticeably lowered sex drive. While in menopause (a side effect of the cancer treatment), it is hard to have a sex drive AT ALL without regularly engaging in penetrative sex. Penetrative sex is also super important to help regulate what little ability the menstruation organs have to at least attempt a semblance of a monthly cycle at such a young age and help the tissue there repair otherwise weakened by the lack of estrogen, as yet again if there aren't at least signs the body is trying (like cramps and spotting), that is a huge red flag that something is wrong and the cancer has likely spread again. NO hormonal based birth control (no pills nor most inserts, even spermicide) can be used for that type of breast cancer as it effects estrogen and can aggravate the cancer. Condoms and similar contraception are the only option. Pregnancy is also NOT an option with this type of cancer treatment, but avoiding sex is also a terrible idea. I don't mean this to be argumentative, just informative, really. Even if there in theory is a simple solution to something, like abstinence, there is ALWAYS an exception. This isn't even likely the only super important medical exception to the abstinence reasoning. Many women are in abusive situations they can't easily leave and have mandatory sex with someone who opposes using a condom for selfish reasons. There only solution until they can escape their situation is a method of female based birth control that their sexual partner cannot see. And for many women, menstruation has enormous complications, but based on pain alone might not qualify as a serious enough medical situation to be covered for birth control pills otherwise. I'd say the helping out our ladies, especially the ones too poor to afford NSAIDs by lowing their pain AND providing contraception at the same time AND lowering medical costs over 3-fold for pregnancy related costs is a bargain, eh? ; )

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And it's been proven over and over and over again to work when taught to kids in school. yep. works sooooo well...

Condoms are free as well. To date there are no FDA approved medications for men that stop a pregnancy from happening. It's rather impossible for insurers to cover non-existing treatments.

So if condoms are free, why do women need birth control?

Condoms are freely provided under the same laws. Women need birth control in order to prevent unwanted pregnancies, and for a load of other different reasons. I'm going to focus on pregnancy prevention. Just covering condoms takes the choice of whether or not to become pregnant away from women, as using just condoms means that you don't get to choose yourself, but have to rely on your male sexual partner to use the thing, or have to use a more uncomfortable female condom. It's also worth noting that condoms, like any form of birth control, are not 100% effective, and that the best way to have sex and maximize the chance of avoiding pregnancy is to combine more than one kind of birth control. Suggesting that condoms be the only form of available birth control is inadequate and ignores a huge part of the problem. Besides, a second ago you were commenting for the inclusion of men in the free birth control, and now you seem to be arguing for the exclusion of women. I would appreciate some clarity as to that.

Nope, the video is about the poor women losing their freebies, my point was about everyone getting freebies, and if condoms are free, how do condom companies sell their products to the public? I happen to know that you can get free condoms but they are not covered by any plan I have ever heard of. You can get free BC form the same clinic you get free condoms. See the difference? Condoms are a freebie you have to go get from a charity, BC is something insurance has to cover. I don't care how you do it but both or neither should be included.

taibhsear71 many times birth control, such as the pill, are not just for unintended pregnancy but for pain, skin issues, and a myriad of other issues

what the hell are you babbling about?

How is the title misleading? The title is "New Rules on Contraceptive Coverage" and the episode is about the new rules on contraceptive coverage, their justifications, the underlying facts, and their consequences.

You clearly can't follow the words he's saying, Krystal. He literally quoted it and debunked the science.

Qrow Branwen no its not

Why shouldn't part of my $500 premium, pay for my meds?

...no?

Jesus had no children and no known sex partner.

Qrow Branwen Thisll be fun. So, the rule made birth control free with insurance. So, explain in detail, on how an individual can spend cash to spend less than free on this piece of care?