I’ve done numerous German sets like this one, and it really sounds like an alignment issue. You could do a simple alignment by feeding a 10.7MHz unmodulated carrier via a couple of turns of wire over the ecc85, and max the voltage level across the detector cap. Just tweak the cores prior to the last one (the extra sensitive bugger) for max negative voltage across the cap. I then just tweak the final one to null out the detector by ear for least distortion. If you find that this improves the sound then you can do the full alignment process as described in the service manual, which, I agree with you, can be a pain. Good luck. I really enjoy your work. PS: they actually suggest that you do an alignment after every change of the ecc85 because it does throw out the alignment by simply putting in a new tube, so the front end is really sensitive to everything you change there.

I have every confidence you will get this gem from Germany up to speed and be the proud performer it once was.

bidi bidi bidi bidi bi. OMG, I just lost it! Shango"SuperFly"066, my new favorite mumble rapper!

At this point I ask myself why I restore tube radios. 99% of "music" they receieve is trash anyways. Thats like being resurrected from the dead to become a Kardashian

Blibby blur blur, blibby blur blur - laughed till I couldent catch my breath. Gasp! Awsome vid, thanks for sharing. Still believe Shango066 for President, vote here.

I swear to god that if you give shango enough time he will fix a tube radio with just a hammer.

Major takeaway from this video: today's radio sucks. My hat off to you though for working on what looks like a nightmare to repair. Learned a lot from this video.

Excited for part 3! Probably not many 20 year olds interested in this kind of stuff, but I sure am.

Nordmende sets are the best.. great video thanks

Sounds like the discriminator needs a slight touch up' Like you mention if you go tweaking those cores, something may break loose. Maybe you can check for zero volts at the balance point, it may be dead on. I always remember your alignment video of a cheap transistor radio and how much the distortion was minimized when done. Keep at it, Dan, you can do it!

With the crap that passes for music the past few years, I'm not sure I want to repair radios. It's all "vizza voom giga boom drank smoke" no matter what genre.

Another one of those funny goofy phone calls nice 😆

25:29 "full on trailer taliban" lol

Time for the release of the 2018 shango066 rap video, "Shux my Nordmende needs bucks, gonna holla so it gets a dolla.". BTW my 1990 Dodge van's service manual says to coat the engine computers plug and socket with lithium grease .Looking forward to part III...

The stereo effect is also enhanced a lot when the external speakers are plugged in. Grundig sets had similar layouts with bass speakers in the front next to each other, and tweeters at the sides of the cabinet + external mid range speakers, values were often 5 Ohms.

Damn it im still cracking up from the end of the last video

Please do include more unsolicited solicitation calls, its absolutely hysterical how you handle them.

Shango you could do an alignment with a 6LB sledgehammer, this radio will then allow you to listen to people on the astra satellites, beaming down mind numbing spirit crushing gameshows whilst theyre stuffing junkfood in their mouths. Choose your future, choose Life.

I always get excited when you come out with another video love your channel HR&L

I got a free box of old tubes! Can’t wait to possibly use them If I get a old radio

I have to buy one of these older radios, but with a better FM stage....the Zenith with the pre-War & post-War FM bands just looks cool to me...I saw one console with a wire recorder from 1947 on KZfaq, I'd want that just for the novelty, maybe get some of those wire spools, play around with it.

I'll try that again. The tuner socket looks suss and the other socket with all that white crap in it, needs to be cleaned or replaced. My mum has an old Kriesler radio gram (we live in Victoria Australia) AM only but with a decent antenna connected there was always a slight gap even on the strongest stations. It is a stereo 3 way unit with electrostatic tweeters and sounded great in its hey day. I never pegged the tuner seeing eye valve no matter what station you tuned in. It measured the strength and the closest I got was about 1 cm on the strongest channel. I wouldn't worry about that. Worry about the distortion and forget the seeing eye valve. Cheers from down under. Andrew.

Is Alex Jones still trying to sell detoxifying tea on shortwave? Haha

Coming along nicely Shango. That's a nice console too, fully featured yet compact.

I recently had a problem on a similar vintage Philips radio with the same tube lineup minus the separate output tubes. It picked out all the stations, but the volume was very low and the eye tube didn't move at all. Both on FM and AM. I found a problem by measuring the voltages on the IF tubes, g2 voltage on the one of the IF tube (EF85/6BY7) was only 2V. Caused by a shorted bypass polyester capacitor to ground. Replaced it, and now it picks up stations even without any antenna. Also the first time I saw that type of capacitor to short.

My Scott 320 tuner had very similar symptoms. It didn't have as weak sensitivity, but the audio was distorted like that. I found an old Scott tuner document that gave the basics on how to align it. Using that, going off the eye tube, and by ear, I was able to get the Scott pretty much dead on. What appeared to really clean up the distortion was what I believe to be the discriminator slug. I found when I was tuned to the strongest station, I was able to tweak it until I found the sweat spot and the audio was perfect. What I found interesting is with the discriminator dead centered on the scope, it appeared to be off when listening to it on a very strong station.

from somebody who is very passionate with electronic field and how it works and how to repair I can really appreciate the detail that you put into your videos although I would like to see more repairs in details on other certain amateur radio equipment vintage and rare situations however I do use your videos as in Elmer for certain Electronics thank you for your videos

I agree on that so called music ,I like your videos you are well versed on these old radios.

Hahahah ! love your phone chat with the library lady survey. and then the blahblahblehblehbleblebleehbleh ! lol. mumble. Tube sound is so nice and warm.

Love it, the strongest I've seen that jade green tuning eye close up and the tune was Jaded...

I WANT PART THREE FOR XMAS

25:05 I just came back to listen to that rap hahaha😆

Way to go Shing it's coming back around that thing is awesome I don't care what you say I would you still adopt it

I am genuinely intrigued by this set. These consoles are rather hard to find I’ve realized. I was offered a really large telefunken once but that offer never came to surface. Thanks for these great videos!!

You’d like to think the alignment won’t be off, and from what I hear about these German radios, it usually isn’t. But... The same person who packed the tube sockets with lithium grease, may have also started tweaking on the adjustment slugs, with no more equipment than the screwdriver with the broken tip in their hand.

30:56 A Hungarian Tungsram tube from about 1970-1985 installed in a 1963 vintage German set in the US in 2018... Nice :) . Have you bought that tube directly from Hungary, or from a third country? Good to know that good ol' Hungarian tech spreading across the world thanks to ebay :) . Greetings from Hungary, and have a happy Holiday! P.S. In Hungarian AM-FM radios, the IF tubes were usually ECH81 and EBF89, the only example I found in a hurry is the Orion AR604, which has EF89 in the IF.

At 30:46 For a while, to listen to Shortwave was all we could do We were young and Shango knew, and our eyes were alive Deep inside we knew our Shortwave was true For a while we paid no mind to the past We knew the Shortwave would last Every night somethin' right Would invite us to begin the dance Somethin' happened along the way What used to be happy was sad Somethin' happened along the way And yesterday was all we had Oh, after the Shortwave has gone How could you lead me one And not let me stay around? Oh, after the Shortwave has gone What used to be right is wrong Can Shortwave that's lost be found? For a while to listen to Shortwave whit each other With all we would ever need Shortwave was strong for so long Never knew that what was wrong Shango was right We tried to find what we had Til sadness was Shango shared We were scared this affair Would lead our Shortwave into Somethin' happened along the way Yesterday was all we had Somethin' happened along the way What used to be happy is sad Somethin' happened along the way What used to be was all we had Oh, after the Shortwave has gone How could you lead me on And not let me stay around? Oh, oh, after the Shortwave has gone What used to be right is wrong Can Shortwave that's lost be found? Oh, oh, after the Shortwave has gone What used to be right is wrong Can Shortwave that's lost be found Oh, oh, after the Shortwave has gone

merry christmas shango you gave me a laugh

KRRL Real 92,3 ... the official FM test station for Shango066

FHF!!!! The best morning show in LA!!👍🏻Sounds pretty darn good....even distorted!

Love the handling of cold call ..halarious ...good stuff

Blibby blibby colud be the Number one next summer. Think about it. You must record that blibby song! Cheers

Life would be boring if no one was ever offended by anything.

9:43 What a reward for getting a 30+ year FM radio working lmao

Merry Christmas Shango!

34:47 There's the original Mumble Rap by Van Morrison (and if I remember correctly it features a transistor radio too).

I've seen those tubular ceramic capacitors in old Japanese dollar store radios. I didn't even touch them in the one I have; actually I only replaced one capacitor in the whole thing and that was a tiny paper capacitor across the second IF coil which I replaced with a poly one.

All you need is a big screen room with sealed doors etc with your test equipment and you inside, no external interference. I don't know how many $$$; I have worked in one years ago)

Shango you and I have the same mindset man I love your Humor man I swear I think we can be brothers

it had a turntable too. 10 grams tracking force but mum got it when I was 8 years old.

Thanks for shareing

To get rid of the distortion I'd do a full alignment, also I had to slightly detune the FM IF for a wider passband to get rid of the distortion on strong stations. If you have a sweep oscillator it's best done visually to get a flat passband. (or as you said, stagger tuned)

shango You know how to maintain suspense!

You are so amazing man hahahahaha

Man I would buy this thing

This is probably a stretch but. have you tested the EM84 to make sure the eye actually closes? I came across a replacement one a few years back where the eye didn't close all the way at the proper voltage

9:50 First time in 40 years the FM works and what comes out? "Wake Up In The Sky" by Gucci Mane (You can't tell me I ain't fly (you can't tell me I ain't fly) I know I'm super fly (I know), I know I'm super fly (I know) The ladies love the luxury (yeah), ) lol 20:40 There is that song again, that must pretty popular in LA

Actual real singing doesn't matter these days. If that bleeda blum bluzza boodle blabla will sell records, then the labels would be all for it.

If the limiter stages in the IF are not going into saturation and letting amplitude variations through to the detector, the ratio detector can interpret that as distortion. It is also possible that the IF alignment is off. The only real way to sort it out is with a signal generator and a distortion analyzer. All my knowledge of this stuff related to solid state equipment, but the same principles apply. I'm sure someone with more knowledge of vintage tube IF's will chime in and hopefully enlighten us all. I do agree though, it seems like a lack of gain issue to me as well.

i struggle to get dab+ down where i live and kinda weak fm signals depends where its placed

Reward for Part 2: Shango066 is Super Fly and supports California library education, mumble rap and laments trailer Taliban.

I've used lithium grease as heat-sink compound but sealed up and not in electronics and not at those temperatures!!! When you build an air conditioner out of a de-humidifier and have to water cool the compressor...

Oh I need the Dallas. Bly bliu bli blri

I'm jealous that you have local electronic store(s) nearby...that just doesnt exist over here in germany, at least I dont know any.

Happy Holidays then!

good job

The old saying is that you can't make honey out of dog poo but I believe you can, tnx for the laffs.

I've seen people pack grease in electronics way too much, it's such a pain to clean up.

6T8 = triple diode, hi mu triode. AM and FM detectors, AGC, and first AF amp (or maybe part of the phase inverter).

I can't wait for part 3!!!, and Shango is right, to awaken after forty-plus years to crap that sounds worse than animal sacrifice, just isn't fair.

I need the dolaz babe babe babe babe

Re: China tester accuracy... hold the test button down 10 seconds and they go into calibration mode

at 16:25, why have a resistor or capacitor with a coil wrapped around it? I have seen this before in other valve radios, but never found out the reason for it. Thank you for any replies... Ian.

I heard a reference to "Asperger's Syndrome people" in there. Go Aspergerians !

1:45 - Maybe he was using it as heat-sink compound!

20:45 i just shazamed that song it wake up in the sky by Gucci mane Bruno Mars and kodak black and im pretty sure google can content match a pretty shitty sounding audio but Shazam is owned by apple

KLOS ?What year did you record this.🔌

NIB 6T8A / EABC80 / 6AK8 Vacuum Tube you are right

Awesome video! When does your mumble rap album drop?

I think the distortion was the radio trying to go back into a coma after hearing that "music"

Distortion in the bass reminds me of the power supply sag effect that one observes in guitar amps. Is the rectifier in spec?

That capacitor that you checked in the F.M. Demodulator and called a Stabiliser is actually the A.M. Limiting Capacitor isn't it?Also when I've heard him over here on the radio in Britain Alex Jones has always been interesting listening.Such as questioning the merits of what is being put in our drinking water for example.

Where do you buy your russian tubes by the lot?

Shango do these old radios have something like, a "squelch" circuit ? I was wondering why there was no static between stations, and then you mentioned it ! I'm thinking back to the days we all had CB radios in our trucks..lol. They were fun ! Like having a cell phone party line.lol

Super fly

I don't know much about FM, but it sounds like there's some overloading going on. In an AM radio, if AVC/AGC isn't working right it will blast the detector---that's something that could be checked easily enough with voltage measurements

yep. that capacitor definitely seems bulged.

Would be a neat little console if totally restored.

Shango, I am no expert I have a feeling that the problem is in the tuner maybe you should try impedance matching the antenna, try a bunny ear w/gain boost or something, what about that cap you changed in the tuner, could a 150-500pf trimmer be substituted? What do you think cause the failure in that cap? Maybe there are more bad ones in there. I hope you don't think I am trying to confuse you, but I am getting frustrated too, I can just imagine what you're feeling.

Aren't the eye tube connected to your AVC line ?

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fm distortion could be bad discriminator electrolytic, or the 2 discriminator diode sections in the eabc80 too different in emission...

Spray DW-4O all over the trimers on fm and am and everything works again perfect

40:25 - It sounds like the AGC isn't working. Large signals overload the FM demodulator!

love mumble rap works nice as a background lol great video thnx.

20:52 was an awesome comment... but that's what happens with an FM tuner on KRRL

I wonder if they have adjusted the FM pre-emphasis for the US market since it is a German radio?

Maybe white looking grease or a dialectic grease maybe they thought because the socket was crunchy if I thought they could pick a dialect or grease IQ can light bulb in a car

just sitting here listening to Shangos bangers

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