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@uncuthoops9 ай бұрын
And don't worry guys that Rich Paul response video is in the making as we speak.
@CasualGamerPlays9 ай бұрын
I was wondering if you were going to cover the recent Rich Paul comments.
@dontaerussell33979 ай бұрын
Rich Paul needs to lay off whatever he's on..
@twilitezn9 ай бұрын
That 2018 season is VERY deceptive by the way : - league was in transition - only one 60 win team : Houston - neither Conference was particularly competitive Which makes the whole “KD Superteam” narrative a little suspicious : - the 2018 Warriors we’re NOT as good as the 2017 team - they took their foot off the pedal, and coasted during the regular season. - Lebron’s path through the Eastern Conference was at “JV” level, and even though Kyrie had left he still had KLove - 19/11 in the Finals - and a deep bench. - his EC competition (Cavs were the 4th seed) : Pacers (Best player : Oladipo) Raptors (BP : Lowry/DeRozan) Celtics (BP : 2nd year J. Brown) FIRST : anyone saying that a PRIME LBJ team, going against THAT field, ISN’T the favourite in every series, is being completely disingenuous. For context : the Rockets were the #1 seed…but NOBODY had them as the Favourite against the Dubs! SECOND : of the three EC series they played, the Cavs demolished the #1 seed Raptors (which they always did) in a sweep…but struggled against the lower seeded teams - both went 7 games. The East was MEDIOCRE, and yet the Cavs - the favourites - still had problems. THIRD : The Dubs WEREN’T unbeatable : the Rockets showed that…game 1 against the Cavs showed that…. My overall point is that while you can say that beating the Dubs may have been a bridge too far, Lebron taking the Cavs to the Finals with “no help” is overblown…
@ijamorris34499 ай бұрын
I can't wait!!!!!
@tmoney3609 ай бұрын
Shannon Sharpe argues his MJ vs LeBron points like a Filipino run LeBron love Facebook group. He literally sounds like a MJ hate meme. I'm waiting for him to mention Muggsy Bogues and using that as the definition of the 90's. The moment he said "Magic was like 75" he made it clear how limited his debate skills are. I'm certain Rich Paul and LeBron literally give him a script. 55+ year old former pro-athlete talking like a FB tween is pathetic.
@rogermyles6069 ай бұрын
If 6-0 is nothing, then 4-6 means ABSOLUTELY nothing
@legendbot56249 ай бұрын
Nobody said it did lmfao, Jordan media brainwashed NPCS into thinking an irrelevent stat such as 6-0 actually mattered. "Winning" until it's the first round, where losses there don't matter nor exist
@HiNRGboy9 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@fritopendejo51819 ай бұрын
Absolutely nothing!
@doktor31969 ай бұрын
Why not go 1-9
@MH-lk8md9 ай бұрын
It’s true. Individual accomplishments are how you measure GOAT status, not championships.
@dafundraiser5639 ай бұрын
The fact that Shannon Sharpe bold enough to fix his mouth to say Jordan didn’t play anyone is so disrespectful to everyone in that era. That “He played plumbers” bs needs to stop
@CHINA2TAPS9 ай бұрын
He did tho hahahahah. the competition actually isnt similar Lebron has 10 rings in MJ's position
@JetEngine859 ай бұрын
@@CHINA2TAPSyeah? Why only 3 championships and 6 losses on a weak conference playing with 2 all stars though?.. 10 championships hahaha you are funny dude
@carmcam19 ай бұрын
@@CHINA2TAPSmj got results, lebron got excuses after excuses.
@judahmourneth32119 ай бұрын
@@CHINA2TAPSand put MJ on the 2011, 2015, 2017 they’d win. And 2018 he’s not getting swept. So stop with the conjecture arguments
@ijamorris34499 ай бұрын
@@CHINA2TAPShow old are you???
@donnietrump95179 ай бұрын
6-0 means 100%. Imagine if MJ was to play 20+ years and no breaks, he might be 10-0!!
@user-ep2es1mp5r8 ай бұрын
Probably 12, Phil and they had it if they wanted it, they new team play
@gmailgmail62347 ай бұрын
6-9 he lost 9 seasons
@user-xm6jq8jc6y6 ай бұрын
He would of been 8-0 if he wouldn't of retired in his prime for 2 years. And not just 8-0 it would of been 8 in a row.
@gmailgmail62346 ай бұрын
@@user-xm6jq8jc6y you fools forget he lost in 1995
@dionbowen175 ай бұрын
Would haves and ifs don’t count. Even if we’re using what if scenarios and Jordan won 10 championships, he would still have one less than Bill Russell so does that make Bull Russell the greatest of all time. He actually does have 11 championships in 12 appearances. The argument shouldn’t be who is the GOAT. It’s who you like the most. There are way to many variables to ever determine who actually is the best of all time.
@Rumble225-qe7fy7 ай бұрын
That’s ultimately the problem with this so called debate. In order to make it debate they have to try to tear down MJ accomplishments cause their crush can’t live up to them. That in itself ends debate. 10 scoring titles with 9 all defensive times if it’s so easy someone do it I guarantee it’ll never be done.
@randycastro5290Ай бұрын
And DOPY!!!
@MrJ1S9 ай бұрын
Damn so magic won mvp at 72 and was the runner up at age 73? That better longevity than lbj 😂
@reunion_k93759 ай бұрын
👍
@BbbFffish9 ай бұрын
Magic was 31 in that finals, Mike 28. Steph Curry is 35, same age MIke was in his last finals.
@MrJ1S9 ай бұрын
@@BbbFffish yup and the ages of the 1991 pistons line up with that of KD era warriors
@chumcalmdown9 ай бұрын
W comment
@argelong73149 ай бұрын
Why the debate? Hahahaha waste of time.. no arguement needed.. for this
@arteksta19439 ай бұрын
I’m convinced Shannon Sharp is on Lebrons payroll
@eazyduzit-tr3nx9 ай бұрын
He is, it’s been well established already. Not just him but Nick Wright, Windhorst, Dave McMenamin, Perk etc
@tryingtochangemyways50749 ай бұрын
Yes he gets a klutch sports check
@mosessupposes25719 ай бұрын
Also his dinner date
@michaelangelograves59039 ай бұрын
To busy ridin' his nuts to be on his payroll.
@vince00789 ай бұрын
Joy Taylor exposed live him years ago about it. Even Stephen Jackson said that he heard about that !!!!
@anthonyderosa32659 ай бұрын
One of the best breakdowns I've seen on this topic. Great commentary.
@billabonggolkpr8 ай бұрын
The teams in the 90's were just objectively better. The competition was just better by leaps and bounds.
@JetEngine859 ай бұрын
Shannon wanna talk about who MJ faced in his era but one thing is for sure, Shannon will never in his life talk about who lebron was facing in the weak east while he was in his prime playing constantly with two other all stars.. that would just destroy the narrative
@melvynsngltn279 ай бұрын
Just like Chicago
@JamesLee-nw8kz9 ай бұрын
@@melvynsngltn27Chicago was trying to get past the bad boy's Pistons finally got past them by sweeping the bad boy's out of the playoffs the same way the Denver Nuggets swept the Lakers this past season.. lol 😂
@melvynsngltn279 ай бұрын
@@JamesLee-nw8kz Chicago was the favorite going into the 1991 playoffs. Also that was the weakest Pistons team since 1986.
@JamesLee-nw8kz9 ай бұрын
@@melvynsngltn27 Nope they wasn't the Pistons were coming of back to back championships.. Dude I was there 21 years old at the time born and raised in Detroit
@melvynsngltn279 ай бұрын
@@JamesLee-nw8kz and the had there worst season since 1986 right or wrong? Isiah had his worst season ever right or wrong? Isiah even got benched during the playoffs right or wrong. Like I said Chicago won not taking nothing away from them but they were already favored before the playoffs started
@mistwiir40119 ай бұрын
Will Smith needs to slap Shannon Sharpe and tell him to keep Jordan's name out his mouth. lol
@J23LA249 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@anselmmcintosh69399 ай бұрын
Slap some sense in his head because he doesn't know what he is saying 😂😂
@ronb39139 ай бұрын
This is why comment section needs to be taken away
@ScottieDPOYY9 ай бұрын
@@ronb3913 Comment sections are living proof that Liberals are right, Men are indeed becoming women
@Jkg4969 ай бұрын
@@ronb3913😂
@musicandremixes9 ай бұрын
the 90's nba time was just awesome, especially the bulls with jordan, pippen and rodman
@Dapper_Dean9 ай бұрын
They had a Jordan era. But did they have a Lebron era? No! Did Jordan ever get swept in any finals? No! Bron? Twice! And Bron having the most career turnovers, takes him off the GOAT conversation. 😉😂🤣
@MannyMensah949 ай бұрын
Shannon Sharpe doesn't have the credentials to talk basketball. 6-0 means something.
@MannyMensah949 ай бұрын
@@vicepresidentmikepence889 why Lebron won 4 instead of 10 championships?
@mosessupposes25719 ай бұрын
He’s just a drama queen who talks waaay too loud 😂
@MrSmitty10749 ай бұрын
@@mosessupposes2571 Clowns provide free entertainment.
@mainey529 ай бұрын
6-0 does mean nothing as an argument, when you have people who have won 7-0 and 8-0 and bill won 11. Can’t use nba championships as a definitive reason. That’s a team accomplishment not player accomplishment. Hell argument can even be made that Kareem is the goat all time over jordan
@baconeggcheesepodcast93909 ай бұрын
Wait why you say that
@maddawgjax9 ай бұрын
I love what Kwame Brown said about Shannon Sharp! " He sleeps with Lebron blankets and pillows! 😂😂😅
@jamesstarter5 ай бұрын
Don’t nobody care wtf kwame bust says 😂
@maddawgjax5 ай бұрын
@@jamesstarter apparently you do this is why you responded! Kwame played 12 seasons in the league he wasn't no bust he didn't have all of those high standards Lebron had
@jamesstarter5 ай бұрын
@@maddawgjax actually i could give af fuck less but you made a weak ass point to post a dicksuckin comment about kwame brown under a Jordan and lebron debate. Who the real fuckin wierdo here?!? 🤣
@jasoncoomer12264 ай бұрын
After seeing how Shannon now dresses you probably could have left off the words "blankets and pillows" and it would have fit better
@edgarblanchard29884 ай бұрын
Man that shit was funny 🤣😅
@aaronmyers65409 ай бұрын
It was great hearing Steven A cook Unc but it’s even better seeing the breakdown…good stuff my guy🤟🏾
@mrho4speed5 ай бұрын
Great video and thanks for sharing. LOL at Shannon when he thinks he can make an argument by raising his voice and yelling lies = like Magic was 73 years old!!
@JAGWAH669 ай бұрын
How's it that people forget to mention MJ has not one but two Olympic gold Medals. One as an amateur, and one as a Pro. Both teams never lost and his amateur team actually beat the NBA players. SMH
@samuelvelez16439 ай бұрын
IN FACT: MJ IS 11 - 0 IN FINALS, INCLUDING NCAA, OLYMPICS IN BOTH AMATEUR AND PROFESSIONAL, DREAM TEAM, NBA FINALS
@brainzor7779 ай бұрын
How could anyone forget LeBronze, hahaha
@gemArsen9 ай бұрын
@@brainzor777right? It took Kobe to go over there before they brought home the gold.
@phillyphan13469 ай бұрын
What no one seems to mention about MJ's olympic teams is that at the time, basketball was not a global sport. I mean the best foreign player in the 90's was a 6th man of the year candidate in Toni Kukoc. The best foreign players in today game are a stratosphere better than those in the 90's. Another example of how today's players are much, much better (more athletic & more skilled) than the 90's and past eras.
@JAGWAH669 ай бұрын
@@phillyphan1346 Youvsoind like a crazy person. None of what you said is true, just myth. Players today are all point guards with ZERO fundamentals. Today's NBA player is a joke.
@luisrodriguez-mb7cc9 ай бұрын
Jordan? He faced the 1991 Lakers, the 1992 Blazzers, the 1993 Suns, the 1996 Sonics, the 1997 and 1998 Jazz. Each of those teams had at least one or two Superstars and Hall of famers. Plus, he disposed of the Pistons, Knicks, Pacers, again with superstars and hall of famers. Did LeBron leave a Superstar Hall of famer without a ring? Jordan did: Barkley, Ewing, Malone, Stockton, Miller, among others, never won a ring because of Jordan. You catch my drift Shannon Sharpe?
@marcodraven97789 ай бұрын
A lot of players on those teams FEARED MJ, you don't hear that about LJ.
@joelabon76049 ай бұрын
Nah! Bcoz Shannon sharpe is so dumb 😂😂😂
@Mike1122.9 ай бұрын
I don’t think any of a lebrons title teams would beat the teams the Bulls beat. His teams couldn’t even beat Orlando and an aging Boston team. When his teams were favored they lost to Dallas and San Antonio. There is no debate!
@CHINA2TAPS9 ай бұрын
actually highschool compared to todays league. you people dont know anything about basketball
@zinjgreen33989 ай бұрын
@@CHINA2TAPSHighschool in todays league? Shaq and Kobe lost the the Jazz, Lebron didn't win until the 90's star were gone, btw Wade won his first chip in the 2000's something Lebron couldn't. That is why Lebron run to Wade to win only to loss the old Mavs which couldn't win a chip in the 2000's.
@cesarrosa46445 ай бұрын
Shannon Sharpe and Kendrick Perkins need to buy knee pads when they get around Lebron!!
@user-ji1wx4rs1i9 ай бұрын
This is a darn good analysis. Thanks for putting out all these facts
@tedlogan56289 ай бұрын
Sharpe cracks me up when he says Magic was too old in 1991 (32 years old/just won MVP 2 seasons prior, Lakers were a very good team that year), but Lebron beating Duncan and the Spurs in 2013 when Duncan was 36 and then getting beat (4-1) by 37 year old Duncan is completely different 😂. Come on, Shannon…let’s keep things reality!
@eazyduzit-tr3nx9 ай бұрын
Yea it makes no sense, not only that look how LBJ fans add years to LBJ’s age. You seen them now saying “look at LBJ doing this at 40 years old”...so that means we can do the same, that means he lost to 39 year old Duncan lol
@timmaz24s9 ай бұрын
Two years prior! Magic won mvp in 1990 and was second in 1991.
@jackwoods96049 ай бұрын
How About The Celtics Team "Ray Allen" Beat...They Were Senior Citizens...Shannon Ignores This Though
@brianharron34359 ай бұрын
1991 magic got hiv bro no yours facts
@jackwoods96049 ай бұрын
@@brianharron3435 Trying to Compare Lebron James to "Michael Jordan" is Like Putting a Silk Hat on a Pig
@chrisrenshaw63729 ай бұрын
Mj 3 peated twice something lebron can never do LeBron can try to twist the narrative only ones with his cronies in the media but the fact of the matter is LeBron James will never be in the same league as Michael Jordan
@andrewhite53539 ай бұрын
I don't even know why MJ / LJ is being debated. Without question MJ is in another league to LJ. MJ transcended the sport and made it global. You can only fully understand MJ''s impact on the game if you think globally.
@ILikeIt628 ай бұрын
This is the best breakdown & layout I have EVER seen. Whoever Dude is that put this video 2gether deserves an award....
@FEDEXLuchs9 ай бұрын
"he had nobody" unironically with the 2011 Miami Heat with 4 HOF on that roster like holy fucking shit
@eazyduzit-tr3nx9 ай бұрын
Exactly, that argument holds no weight bc even when he does have help a superteam at that, he still fails lmao.
@melvynsngltn279 ай бұрын
What 4 Hall of famers was on that 2011 heat team???
@LarryDonnell-sd7rv9 ай бұрын
@@melvynsngltn27 if you telling me wade bosh and allen ain't then you a slow lebron fan by your logic pippen ain't a Hof also because wade is better than pippen so 🤷🏾♂️
@brianharron34359 ай бұрын
You people obviously don’t watch it how many times did his teammates get hurt like almost every season lebron never did you people all probably forget pippen getting hurt and Jordan lost to Shaq and a game 7 but it wasn’t the finals so he’s good do get you guys
@nicholasmcdavid47879 ай бұрын
@@brianharron3435 MJ fans don’t talk about Jordan losing any other years he ain’t make the finals lol. If that was the case then they would mention how MJ had back to back to back first round loses. Lebron didn’t get a first round lost til 2021 at the age of 35. It’s actually a very tiresome debate. That’s why other sports debate are better. Look at the NBAs HOF compared to ANY other sports. The Nbas is meaningless cuz any and everybody gets in, even without winning much in their careers. “Charles Barkley” my man example of this.
@user-ji9vl9lg9i9 ай бұрын
The way Shannon is yelling like that just proves he knows he is wrong himself lol
@258athletics9 ай бұрын
I been telling ppl this for yrs. All he does is say the most generic statements and if u don't agree, he says it louder
@ale1988ish9 ай бұрын
In Jordan's Era, one meant everything. Ask Barkley R. Miller, Malone & Stockton, etc
@MJW15099 ай бұрын
These are the details that get looked over, nice work 👍🏾
@vudujl839 ай бұрын
Shannon will keep getting cooked if he continues to spout nonsensical things like longevity with more losses than wins, acting like Magic was a washed old man, or social media scrutiny (Rich Paul); his 21-year storm didn’t seem to cast a cloud over the entire NBA
@carlosrobles55919 ай бұрын
I don't think anyone has cooked Shannon on the Jordan vs LeBron because unfortunately, most personalities on TV defending Jordan are terrible at remembering his accolades and numbers, yet they still can beat Shannon because the difference is so overwhelming. You can't really say lefraud is the goat without making a fool out of yourself.
@eazyduzit-tr3nx9 ай бұрын
@@carlosrobles5591 I think they do that in purpose just to keep the debate going, if SAS or Skip really wanted to they would’ve called out Shannon for saying he had MJ as the goat for years and even Kobe over LBJ until klutch came calling. They won’t bc it would destroy the whole debate.
@edwardtatum61369 ай бұрын
Next Shay gonna say M.J. didn't face Jason Terry.
@DaMixWizard9 ай бұрын
Do Shannon Sharpe realize Magic Johnson was only 31 years old and MJ was 28yrs old in that 1990-91 NBA Finals. But also, do Shannon Sharpe know that Steph Curry was 30 yrs old when Steph Curry beat LeBron in the 2018 Finals? So Shannon Sharpe, that was a dumb argument
@2aforteens5178 ай бұрын
Nice job with the stat comparison. Well done!
@johnk98763 ай бұрын
I love your channel always spit the facts
@davidvelasco5109 ай бұрын
Lebron playing 20+yrs, but you can also say in a more physical era Jordan played all 82 games 9x. Even at 40 he played all 82 games. LBJ just once in a softer era.
@jordananthony58829 ай бұрын
Early 2000 pistons Nets Bulls Noah Luel deng Shane battier toney Allen keynon Martin's Ron artest. 2000 to 2010 wasn't no defense playing but hard fouls era but still damn good. Let's not forget the Ltrain who always got closed line or wrapped up b4 scoring.
@jamesw57139 ай бұрын
The elephant in the room is LeBron has been smashing PEDs for over a decade.
@renierelagazo78889 ай бұрын
exactly. that longevity argument is bs. his longevity came from self preservation, while mj always wanted to play and compete.
@JohnnyRanks-s7z9 ай бұрын
90’s defense is overrated. Wasn’t that much “tougher”. Only the fouls were harder. Hand checking is overrated as well
@JohnnyRanks-s7z9 ай бұрын
@@renierelagazo7888Why couldn’t Jordan’s prime be longer if he took a year off from the game then retired then came back? Stop moving the goalpost
@anthonystevenson8309 ай бұрын
Trying to use stats to justify 6 looses is laughable 😅
@3trakman39 ай бұрын
Always using the "team accomplishments" in the debate between individual players is pretty funny too. Especially when there's guys who got more than MJ.😅 Wheres the rings when he wasn't on the best NBA team?? Appearances ?? Conf F??
@anthonystevenson8309 ай бұрын
@3trakman3 championships is what matters few years from now another player is gonna break records but the one thing they cant take away is championships i would rather have a guy that won more then lost.
@3trakman39 ай бұрын
@@anthonystevenson830 U should only debate Temnis and professional 🎱 then lol. Or make me believe BJ Armstrong is a better PG than CP3. That’s how your logic works😂
@anthonystevenson8309 ай бұрын
@@3trakman3 and you should debate professional lacrosse or hockey based on your knowledge of the game of basketball
@baconeggcheesepodcast93909 ай бұрын
Yeah that’s hilarious
@korkor10209 ай бұрын
Great analysis on the HOF counts, definitely enjoyed it
@DirtCheapFU9 ай бұрын
I fell out of my chair laughing at those extra baby steps. 0:32
@EniyanValentine8 ай бұрын
LMAO
@AntiNeoFascist9 ай бұрын
Honestly, quitting, not playing for 2-3 years, then coming back and playing again is frankly more impressive to me than someone that just continued to play the whole time.
@BlkDiesel9 ай бұрын
Whats more IMPRESSIVE to me is MJ won 3 straight championships, lost his father, went an played baseball, came back lost to the Magic with Shaq and Penny...and rededicated himself, knocked the rust off and won 3 more straight and was Finals MVP in every one.
@dnice41459 ай бұрын
@@BlkDieselyep. People forget people doubted Jordan would ever lead his team to a championship again after the loss to the Magic. So he prepared and repeated the same rare feat of leading a team to 3 consecutive championships for a second. Emphatically answering all those who doubt he could. He did it a second time with a completely different teammates and playing a different way then he did the first three-peat.
@monterriomoore46419 ай бұрын
Facts
@thenytelyfe9 ай бұрын
I’m going say that the bulls teams in between those years were 50+ win teams
@brianharron34359 ай бұрын
Haha what you talking that’s no where more impressive but I forgot we are talking about Jordan so it is 👍
@anthonyphillips83939 ай бұрын
This is probably single handedly the best Jordan v LeBron breakdown I’ve ever seen/heard. Very well researched and put into context VERY well!
@Tiy513 ай бұрын
This was the best argument Ive seen
@R2CHaze8 ай бұрын
I subbed from this video. I like your breakdown.
@SarasotaMover9 ай бұрын
Uncut Hoops has the best damn NBA analysis of any channel I've seen. Bar none.
@baconeggcheesepodcast93909 ай бұрын
Yeah this channel is 🔥🔥
@dannybachner8999 ай бұрын
Magic was 31 worthy was 30. Clyde was in his absolute prime Terry Porter also was averaging 21 a game in the playoffs. Prime Barkley and Kevin Johnson. The whole Sun's team was stacked go check out the averages. Prime kemp and Payton. And late in their prime but still prime stockton and Malone. thats just the finals Opponents. I don't Remember Jordan facing anyone that wasn't in their prime or was too inexperienced. The bulls were just so good defensively they made some teams great teams look mediocre sometimes.
@hwgmafia73759 ай бұрын
Seattle Supersonic had a very good squad back then they was the first lop city Hersey Hawkins was my guy from 3pt range he was deadly when hot
@258athletics9 ай бұрын
Facts
@REPinFire9 ай бұрын
yall talking as if Jordan face them teams alone. hilarious.LMAO
@alexmohr10729 ай бұрын
@@REPinFirethey certainly wouldn’t have won without him. Go look at who has 1st place in almost every stat in the nba per game.
@REPinFire8 ай бұрын
@@alexmohr1072 certainly would not have won if pip wasn't on his side right? Point is, bulls was just a complete package, a super complete package. Compared to? ....
@nik695835 ай бұрын
Brilliant analysis !!
@AshenclawRealm4 ай бұрын
it's better to burn out than to fade away...
@sowuteva9499 ай бұрын
OMG I just realised, Jordan didn’t just prevent teams from being recognised as great and what not. He to say roughly ruined some “HOF” careers as well. Truly the 🐐
@cfl42869 ай бұрын
Check the stats and accolades. Karl Malone would undoubtedly be a top ten player ever if MJ hadn't prevented him from winning chips.
@kookurikapooh9 ай бұрын
People forgot who Clyde Drexler was. People now clown on Charles. People now discredit and underrate John Stockton even tho he holds both records for assists and steals-and sure, Karl… but fuck that dead-beat pedo… seriously, two potential NBA phenoms if Stockton and Karl had one or two rings had it not been for MJ. Magic could’ve won another ring and beat out Bird-cementing himself as the legitimately, undoubtedly better player and would probably be considered the GOAT. People now forget who Kemp was, and some even underrate Payton. MJ did indeed ruin a few legacies. 10 Finals APPEARANCES can’t do as much damage when you win less than half of em.
@chieflancewaiters70349 ай бұрын
Wait till you realize Bill Russell won so much that nowadays nearly everybody else from that era except Wilt are called plumbers
@daevonthesavage74839 ай бұрын
@@chieflancewaiters7034 shit outside of stats, Wilt also gets crucified for not winning more lol
@a.k.78409 ай бұрын
Yes, MJ never had to face a goliath team like the 2017-18 Dubs... that's because MJ made his team the goliath team!
@FatherManus9 ай бұрын
Lebron fans love to say “Jordan played more than 6 years!” Fine, I agree. Jordan is 6-15 for finals wins and Lebron is 4-20. That’s even worse for Lebron. Lebron played longer, has been in his prime longer, and still won less titles when he had more time to win.
@chieflancewaiters70349 ай бұрын
Better for magic though 5-13. Right there with Jordan
@brianharron34359 ай бұрын
Put lebron on those bulls teams he’s winning all 6 no question
@FatherManus9 ай бұрын
@@brianharron3435 Can I borrow your alternate universe viewing telescope? Clearly you must have one if you are claiming hypotheticals that you can't prove. We can all make up things we can't prove. Jordan would have won 2 more rings if he didn't retire in his prime. Jordan would have won every ring Lebron won plus the ones he lost. Jordan would have won vs Dallas in particular. But in the real world none of that happened and Lebron still failed to match Jordan in rings, let alone surpass him. If Lebron was better than Jordan he should have MORE rings, not less.
@SoCalClip9 ай бұрын
@@brianharron3435don’t forget to dust your knees off and clean your king Lebron James up after your done having him deep down your throat 💀😭😂😂
@brianharron34359 ай бұрын
It’s a team sport buddy is pippen or Rodman got hurt and missed the playoffs Jordan isn’t winning that year noway
@kendallwilliams44404 ай бұрын
Excellent breakdown of the MJ vs Bron argument!!! Probably the best argument I've heard for the GOAT aka His Airness, ive heard!
@user-yt6en5xy5q8 ай бұрын
Finally a comment section that gets it. Great video.
@Calaman2289 ай бұрын
LeBron can play for another 20 years and he will still be under MJ, accolade wise.
@HiNRGboy9 ай бұрын
another 50 years and still under MJ 💀
@FkTheUFC9 ай бұрын
He will never win another championship or mvp so yeah.
@brendagray96019 ай бұрын
@@FkTheUFC 😆😆😆
@brendagray96019 ай бұрын
@@HiNRGboy 😆😆💀
@brendagray96019 ай бұрын
@@FkTheUFC I Think The NBA Is Ready For Him To Retire
@lastofthemohican81489 ай бұрын
Anyone who seriously thinks that James is even close to Jordan has an IQ of less than 50. The only other professional athlete that could compare to the domination within their respective leagues was Wayne Gretzky. Jordan has done so much more for the NBA than any single player in the history of the game. I cannot even believe this is a conversation.
@brianharron34359 ай бұрын
Bro Jordan won 6 times Russell almost double that it’s all about your team hence why Jordan only won 1 playoff game before pippen came alone don’t act like Jordan was unstoppable bro come one I was watching him for years lose before he won he didn’t just play 6 year my man lol
@voldemort0089 ай бұрын
Anyone that says it isn’t even close is just a love sick fanboy whose opinion means nothing lol. If it “wasn’t even close” there wouldn’t be such a debate over it.
@lastofthemohican81489 ай бұрын
@voldemort008 it's not even close! It's a debate only because people who have only been alive to watch James think he's the best. Anyone who is old enough (me included) to have been fortunate enough to watch the entirety of both players' career, would always agree that it's not even close.
@lastofthemohican81489 ай бұрын
@brianharron3435 the team is what allows individuals to win championships. I absolutely agree with you on many levels. All I'm saying is that the impact Jordan had on the game and the talent he possessed was far superior to James. End of story.
@brianharron34358 ай бұрын
I’m 52 born and raised in Boston bro watched Jordan tons of times get crushed by the Celtics once they got old just like the pistons the bulls loaded up and got there’s lebron is bigger stronger faster and a better passer and teammate but you know it all right
@donaldmcgee63347 ай бұрын
The team Jordan faced that was close GS was the 86 Celtics. Now it wasn't the finals, but they did have 5 HoF'erms. Bird, McHale, Parish, Walton, Johnson
@folusojoseph9895 ай бұрын
Jordan and the Bulls NEVER won against that team. Not even once.
@vellberrysr.40224 ай бұрын
They can't say that cause Jordan was only in the league 2 years.coming in in 84 while LeBron had been in the league 10 years before that Golden State team was formed
@sonnynguyen91038 ай бұрын
Can anyone name a GOAT in any sport who has more final losses than wins?
@christianmorgan59569 ай бұрын
Let me say this. If MJ is 6-0 in the Finals because "He DiDnT pLaY aNyBoDy" (8 HOF, 4 60 Wins, 2 57+) Then why do these dumbass hype LeBron's 8 straight Finals when he was playing Bums every year in the Eastern Conference. Just to get destroyed in the Finals. Make it make sense
@TheAustrianPainter879 ай бұрын
It was tough getting past the Raptors every year to the finals you know. 😅
@brianharron34359 ай бұрын
Jordan 2nd year he played like 16 games they won 30 got to the playoffs the nba was not the same
@PhDFlopping9 ай бұрын
Jordan didn’t play “plumbers”, he was just so far above everyone else that he made them look like “plumbers” in comparison
@edwardtatum61369 ай бұрын
L.J. lost to backcourt of J.Kidd and Jason Terry. All world duo!
@mikef60639 ай бұрын
@@edwardtatum6136 when they were old too
@baconeggcheesepodcast93909 ай бұрын
I agree with you Jordan was just on another level
@gripstop5ive1169 ай бұрын
They were plumbers and can’t hold a candle to the superstars our rn
@mikef60639 ай бұрын
@@gripstop5ive116 😆 Ok gen Z
@Patriot-Vibez9 ай бұрын
those road to chip stats were absolute fire too...adding that to my arsenal
@alibabathe40thieves209 ай бұрын
You speaking FACTS.
@kooladify8 ай бұрын
Stats speaks Numbers counts..
@clintonwashington32469 ай бұрын
Can I ask a logical question without LeBron fans getting offended? How does playing a KD led GSW Team for 2 seasons define the rest of his other 19 seasons he played? He was drafted in 2003 was he not? Did he play the GSW for 10 years? SMH
@NorthElevation9 ай бұрын
Didn’t we all watch the same video? That was said in the video, so why are you asking that like it wasn’t already addressed?
@brianharron34359 ай бұрын
You do remember the Celtics formed a team to best Lebron then the spurs had a hall a fame squad but jordon would have scored 85 on any team and beat them right I am a Jordan fan but Jesus he wasn’t unstoppable when he had the greatest coach greatest rebounder greatest defender and and the Celtics and pistons studs were on the way out yet sure Jordan won took and few seasons off and came back to the same team because they were loaded if he won or even made the finals in his early years be impressive
@Sf751789 ай бұрын
Celtics did not firm a team just to beat LeBron. You repeating that rubbish is sad
@brianharron34359 ай бұрын
Ok bro I’m from Boston remember what KG said
@andrdmosley9 ай бұрын
@@brianharron3435You have it backwards... LeBron formed the heat to beat the Celtics... You sound ridiculous when you say the Celtics formed a team to beat a player they had never ever faced! Lol... LeBron had never played the Celtics before the Celtics championship year... Why would they form a team to beat a player who just got swept in the finals and a player they never played before? That makes sense to you? Now on the other hand the Celtics literally dominated LeBron 3 years in a row and most ppl believe made him quit the last year in 2010... LeBron literally joined forces with Wade to specifically get past the team who kept beating him... You can't say that at all about the Celtics
@yourfriendlyneighbourhoodvue9 ай бұрын
If Jordan never retired in 93, 98, doesn’t break his foot and doesn’t only play 68 games dude would be #1 in scoring by far
@lfranklin1189 ай бұрын
You are correct sir. I don’t LeStans understand had MJ not broke his foot his second year, or lost his dad after the 93 3peat,and Jerry Krause hadn’t lost his mind in 98 Jordans numbers would be a lot more. Let not forget MJ didn’t have the luxury of coming right out of high school and go straight to the pros.
@brianharron34359 ай бұрын
If if if he didn’t what if he got drafted by a different team what if he didn’t have the best coach and running mate
@elisampley75989 ай бұрын
And if he didn't go to college. MJ averaged 2152 pts per season. If he had played 19 seasons he would have 41k points....
@Dc-kk9bd9 ай бұрын
If wilt chamberlain didn't quit basketball to become a hall of Fame volleyball ball player he would have had more 100 point games than Jordan had 50
@mikedixon12089 ай бұрын
Preach oh preach tell the people
@drelucious64869 ай бұрын
KJ was a beast I remember watching him play against the Lakers always been one of my favorite players
@nasmaxfit9 ай бұрын
MJ dominated during the NBAs greatest era of centers
@baconeggcheesepodcast93909 ай бұрын
Wait name the centers
@nasmaxfit9 ай бұрын
@@baconeggcheesepodcast9390 Shaq, Hakeem, Robinson, Ewing, Mourning, Mutombo, Sanonis, Parish, Moses, thats just off the top of my head.
@nasmaxfit9 ай бұрын
@@theroster906 hakeem & shaq. Plus Duncan isnt a center, MJ also won 2 rings while duncan was in the league.
@Vortex_Feedz9 ай бұрын
@@theroster906nigga forgot about Shaq 💀 u trippin
@brianharron34359 ай бұрын
Did he face them in the prime in the finals lol
@gabodee9 ай бұрын
"MAGIC WAS 73!!!!!!" LOL I love Unc but he wrong on this topic every single time.
@HeathOverledger9 ай бұрын
He was there and knows Magic was still in his prime lmaooo
@JoeKen39 ай бұрын
Exactly!! Magic also was the league's MVP in 89 and 90. He finished second to MJ in 91 - Magic was still Magic
@judahmourneth32119 ай бұрын
That’s what they do, they disrespect past Greats. That’s why nobody likes lebron because of his fans
@baconeggcheesepodcast93909 ай бұрын
Ayoooooo🤣😂😭
@karmothegamer78789 ай бұрын
Pretty well explained and elaborate. Good job.
@StsNeo4 ай бұрын
100% agree
@rogerbeck35609 ай бұрын
Shannon wants to change the narrative so he can ask a different question, but LeBron will always be looking up to Jordan. Yes 6 -0 in finals with 6 count them 6 finals mvps. That's the nba record and Jordan holds it. At the rate that LeBron is winning 40 precent in finals he would have to be playing in his 50's just to tie Jordan 😮.
@antoniomiranda86919 ай бұрын
You mean 20% in the finals.
@rogerbeck35609 ай бұрын
@@antoniomiranda8691 4 wins championships out of 10 finals (40). However if we count its taken him 20 years to win 4 that like 2 every 10 years now that's 20 percent. Heck if we look at this stat alone there are what ? At least 6 players that has a higher win percent with least time or the same. Jabbar,, Kobe, Magic, Shaq , Duncan and Curry.
@antoniomiranda86919 ай бұрын
@@rogerbeck3560 Yes. I was looking at total yrs.
@ScottieDPOYY9 ай бұрын
Meh, I would rather just have LBJ at 2 and not whine about bullshit that provides 0 context instead. You look like a woman all in your feelings over it meanwhile I don';t implicate myself with the dumbest viewpoints possible. He lost as the favourite once so that stat is meaningless and proves no context. All it does is announce to the world that you are feminine, the mans an all time great and you kids WHINING ALLLLLLWAYS, STEADY HUM. Can't even discuss other players in the league because you LeWomen get too emotional and bring LBJ back into it
@09lowkey9 ай бұрын
If I recall correctly MJ did face prime Mark Price in the playoffs, that's as close as it gets to Steph Curry in the late 80s/early 90s. 12:49 - LeFlop sighting, MJ would never...
@jsonbreathes98944 ай бұрын
Shannon sharp had a comming to america moment " joe luis was 176 years old when they fought"😂😂😂
@gregsmith14993 ай бұрын
You haven't never lied. Get those knees pads .
@TheEndoKenzo9 ай бұрын
This the most forced debate
@vicepresidentmikepence8899 ай бұрын
Michael Jordan played five seasons without Scottie Pippen 84-85 38-44..First round exit 85-86. 30-52..First round exit 86-87. 40-42...First round exit 01-02. 37-45..out of playoffs 02-03. 37-45..out of playoffs LeBron james carried an absolutely horrific 2007 Cleveland Cavaliers team to the nba finals In the modern NBA era (post 1960) only nine NBA top 75 players have won a championship without another top 75 player as a teammate Rick Barry (1975) Bill Walton (1977) Hakeem Olajuwon (1994) Tim Duncan (2005) (2007) Kobe Bryant (2009) (2010) Steph Curry (2015) (2022) LeBron james (2016) Kawhi Leonard (2019) Giannis Antetokounmpo (2021) As you can see, LeBron James is on the list and Michael Jordan isnt Lebron james has won 17 playoff series, without an nba top 75 teammate. Michael Jordan won ZERO LeBron james has won 10 conference championships Michael Jordan won 6......Only Bill Russell and Sam Jones have more conference championships (In a mostly nine team league) than LeBron James In the year before Michael Jordan and LeBron James joined their team and the year after they left their team, their records were 83-84 bulls 27-55 84-85 bulls. 38-44 92-93 bulls 57-25 93-94 bulls 55-27 98-99 bulls 13-37 without Scottie Pippen 00-01 wizards 19-63 01-02 wizards. 37-45 02-03 wizards 37-45 03-04 wizards 25-57 02-03 cavaliers 17-65 03-04 cavaliers 35-47 09-10 cavaliers 61-21 10-11 cavaliers 19-63 09-10 heat. 47-35 10-11 heat 58-24 14-15 heat 37-45 2013-14 cavaliers 33-49 2014-15 cavaliers 53-29 2017- 18 cavaliers 50-32 2018-19 cavaliers 19-63 2017-18 lakers. 35-47 2018-19 lakers were 20-14 when LeBron James got injured on Christmas day. As you can see When LeBron James joins a team, the team improves more than Michael Jordan and when LeBron James leaves a team, the team always goes into the tank. Michael Jordan, excluding the 94-97 seasons, when the NBA moved the three point line to 22 feet, was a career 28% three point shooter. LeBron James is a career 34% three point shooter Michael Jordan was a great defensive player, in an Era where you could handcheck. Playing defense is much easier when you can handcheck. For nearly 6'9 250 LeBron James' entire career he wasn't afforded the opportunity to handcheck. THE EVIDENCE IS CLEAR..LEBRON JAMES IS THE GOAT!!!!! I have added a Postscript So many have replied, that LeBron james didn't make the playoffs his first two years and Jordan did. What they fail to say is, in 1985, 16 of 23 teams made the playoffs. In 2004, 16 of 29 teams made the playoffs. It was MUCH EASIER Making the playoffs in 1985. Perfect example is the 1985 86 bulls went 30-52 and made the playoffs and the 2004 05 cavaliers went 42-40 and did not make the playoffs. Also, I don't know, possibly, maybe, Jordan had a HUGE ADVANTAGE considering he played three years of college basketball and LeBron James was 19 years old, and straight out of high school
@JetEngine859 ай бұрын
@@vicepresidentmikepence889what?
@hakeemolajuwon43529 ай бұрын
@@vicepresidentmikepence889 LeBron never ever carried anything. He beat two 41 win teams and the Pistons without Ben Wallace. Then he choked on it in the Finals so hard he ruined his teams chances and then he had some of the worst playoff series in NBA history. Jordan was avg 43ppg on the greatest team of all time, he wasn't getting outplayed by 33y old bench players like LeBron
@pamelamichaud9949 ай бұрын
More excuses
@hakeemolajuwon43529 ай бұрын
@@vicepresidentmikepence889 who TF thinks some ridiculous pussy of 75 players actually means something?! Buddy you haven't even been watching basketball for 15 years you're just being fed the talking points and ZERO NBA history
@willn86649 ай бұрын
Honestly. Malone would have ran through KD and Stockton would have schooled Curry. Each of the 90s Bulls team's competition would have destroyed each of Lebron's competition in all his finals appearances if you legit matched them up. The ONLY possible team that would have a chance with the 90's teams would be the 2013 Spurs due to their fundamentals plus the Heat BARELY beat them in that Finals. Lebron can thank Ray Allen for that.
@vickystokes85149 ай бұрын
Thank u! I was waiting 4 someone to make this point.
@brianharron34359 ай бұрын
Probably not
@smoothsavage28709 ай бұрын
Nah.
@vickystokes85149 ай бұрын
@@smoothsavage2870 yeah
@smoothsavage28709 ай бұрын
@@vickystokes8514 If they couldnt handle the firepower of the Bulls. They damn sure wouldnt have been able to deal with the Warriors. The only teams with the offensive firepower of the Warriors were the 80s Celtics and Lakers.
@PublicNuisance2K244 ай бұрын
Like ur vids man keep it up
@wargoddrew9 ай бұрын
Best video iv seen yet
@atlien19889 ай бұрын
I LOVE how Stephen A called Shannon out about his comments on Magic in 1991. He didn't say he was _old_ when Magic appeared on his podcast. And since when is 31 considered old?
@lfranklin1189 ай бұрын
I don’t think people realize Magic was still considered in his prime at 31 and could still play. Had it not been for his HIV he still could’ve gave us 4-5 more years.
@atlien19889 ай бұрын
@@lfranklin118 He finished 2nd in MVP voting in 1991 and won the award in 1990. These guys are amping up 38yr old LeBron after my Lakers were playing like garbage for at least 70% of the season, but Magic was old??
@lfranklin1189 ай бұрын
@@atlien1988 no sir Magic was far from old dude made an appearance at 92 AllStar game an gave them buckets. I felt like Magic could have made it to 95 then retire at the end of season or having one more go at MJ in 96 before officially retiring for good.
@atlien19884 ай бұрын
@@lfranklin118 it was a rhetorical question
@cbegin099 ай бұрын
Funny thing is Shannon says 6-0 is nothing this is coming from a guy is 3-0 in Superbowl smh. Shannon should be ashamed of himself for saying that. 6-0. Jordan face great competition plus Chicago were the dominant monster to beat.
@benjamink71059 ай бұрын
Why are we talking about Shannon Sharpe? He played like 30 years ago, obviously he was trash and didn't play against anybody since athletes have all evolved so much in the last 2 or 3 decades. Right Shannon?
@ScottieDPOYY9 ай бұрын
It is meaningless, Jordan is 6-12 in the NBA and its mainly used to point out stupid flaws in LBJ. LBJ losing against teams that are expectied to beat him is why that is nothing. Yall whined so hard you did it to yourself. Bring some logic to your viewpoints and it can go back to just being he won 6 rings and how each of them were valued
@simonjeremy17769 ай бұрын
@@ScottieDPOYY and LeBron is 4-20 in the finals, what's your point?
@ScottieDPOYY9 ай бұрын
@@simonjeremy1776 i already made it clear? I also commented on his record so why are you telling me it? Yep? Yea you never read a word i wrote haha. So many of you losers lately
@alexsurles6 ай бұрын
I would love to see those warriors up against that seattle team with kemp, payton etc.
@saleemporter70406 ай бұрын
Great analysis from this gentleman.
@ballthemblack9 ай бұрын
You know many LeBron fans stay bringing up the golden state warriors with KD in terms of who Jordan faced that type of team. That makes LeBron look really bad knowing he lost to them.
@hakeemolajuwon43529 ай бұрын
The 96' Sonics would eat any of those warriors teams
@eazyduzit-tr3nx9 ай бұрын
It’s a lame argument, not only bc it’s hypothetical to say “MJ would lose to them” but bc in 2017 Shannon/Nick and the rest of the LBJ fans said Cavs were gonna win in 4. They said how KD can’t beat LBJ, Kyrie is gonna cook Curry but as soon as LBJ lost the narrative changed from that to “they’re unbeatable, not even MJ could beat them” lol
@tryingtochangemyways50749 ай бұрын
Yeah this is why they hate KD and still hate him to this day..And the man been in the league 21 years..Kobe,Wade,Kawhi,Duncan,jokic,curry and got rings during lebron watch..They acting like KD gatekeep lebron knowing he got beat many before and after that
@judahmourneth32119 ай бұрын
@@hakeemolajuwon4352THANK YOU!!!
@judahmourneth32119 ай бұрын
@@eazyduzit-tr3nxit’s a deflection
@all4joffrey929 ай бұрын
Well done, sir!
@micapalma9532Ай бұрын
good job
@gamebred-gannicus20609 ай бұрын
It is not even close. I do not know why this is even an argument. Jesus Great job breaking this down!
@Lizards_Lounge9 ай бұрын
Almost had forgotten what an emotional child he agues like..
@anthonytomb88579 ай бұрын
jordan played with less hof players and former mvps than lebron did.
@baconeggcheesepodcast93909 ай бұрын
That’s a fact
@PapiJoshi9 ай бұрын
The best video on this
@raymondvankenie31069 ай бұрын
Everyday this debate gets more and more laughable
@John__Smithson289 ай бұрын
His thunderstorm takes games off in the regular season. MJ didn’t do that. Tell me how many times each person played all 82 games. One of them did it so many more times than the other.
@ScottieDPOYY9 ай бұрын
You ever been 6'9 and 270?? Wtf you talking about. The man played a TON of ball and this is what you whine about?? He is a giant human who has a ton of miles on his body. This complaint is so juvenile and childish. HOW needy are you lol. Do you understand Biology and how it works? You do realize its a lot more energy and wear and tear the larger you are? That many minutes played and you still whining, thats impressive to be honest.
@Adaptation49.429 ай бұрын
LeBron, in 11 healthy seasons in Cleveland, won one championship, lost four finals, and got swept twice while going 7-19 overall😬 Jordan in 11 healthy seasons in Chicago, won 6 championships, lost 0 finals, and never got swept in the finals 😬 and had a career record of 24-11in the finals 😬
@auc2.09 ай бұрын
Don’t forget Lebron got swept twice in the finals.
@mauricedavis17409 ай бұрын
there’s no comparison. Only delusional Lebron fans try to make the argument..
@jarlbalgruuf77019 ай бұрын
Actually crazy what Jordan accomplished in 11 years, this is why he’s seen as the goat. Insane peak and prime, all lebron has is longevity.
@marcodraven97789 ай бұрын
Let's add, with MJ's team had the best NBA record till GS, won 2x 3 peats, no team has accomplished that yet. Lakers w/1. LJ w/all of his "superteams" hasn't come close to 96 Bulls record and not at least one 3peat.
@MrSmitty10749 ай бұрын
MJ played on one team. He didn't call for help. LBJ called 911.
@luiscepeda21523 ай бұрын
He said 6 means nothing! And 4 means what?😂😂
@milkmoney_dfg5 ай бұрын
🗣️ "MAGIC WAS 73" 😅
@jawuansanchez40779 ай бұрын
When I watch LeBron play he makes me want to go to sleep when I watch Michael Jordan play he make me want to go outside and start playing basketball
@brianharron34359 ай бұрын
Because you were a kid now your old that’s what happens blame Lebron for it lol
@PetsNLuv9 ай бұрын
Exactly
@idontknowwhoiamnow9 ай бұрын
Yes because you have Diabetes thats why you always sleep🤣
@gizmothesquirrel90949 ай бұрын
Lebron cant dribble in iso situations
@berichlloieromarate38679 ай бұрын
Lebron make plays for team not only for himself. And that’s how basketball supposed to be done.
@ijamorris34499 ай бұрын
Finals being outscored by a finals opponent or a teammate Bron 7x Jordan 0x. But Bron never had any help...🤔
@MultitaskingGuy9 ай бұрын
1:43 yup!!!!!!!
@damonsiegiel78559 ай бұрын
This argument has gone plaid 😂 STOP ✋ 🛑!!!!!!! 😂
@chriscureton6229 ай бұрын
Hey Shannon. Jordan and the bulls were the 90$ warriors. But Mike was 72-10 and won a ring.hwarriors 73--9 did not win a ring 🏀
@Cain3539 ай бұрын
Exactly. The Bulls had a banner. 72-10 don't mean a thing without a ring. But according to Shannon the 16 Warriors are the best team ever assembled... That's probably why they almost got bounced by OKC in the playoffs...
@chriscureton6229 ай бұрын
@@Cain353 I fully agreed. Never seen nobody hate Jordan and Brady like Shannon. He must hate goats 😭🤣😂
@melvynsngltn279 ай бұрын
@@Cain353they also played better competition. Let's not forget how weak and mediocre the NBA was in 1996. Bob Costas from NBC, Dr.J, Bird, Magic all said the NBA was watered-down. Dennis Rodman in a 1996 interview said this league is so watered-down and filtered they could beat teams with there eyes closed
@brianharron34359 ай бұрын
Because lebron beat them
@Zee006_9 ай бұрын
@@melvynsngltn27what’s the NBA now? A league where a 65 minimum game requirement has to be implemented because STARS can’t be trusted to play. sounds watered down to me
@wpriddy9 ай бұрын
The bulls were the 2017-2018 warriors.
@macleod15928 ай бұрын
I get so tired of Shannon yelling and screaming all the time.
@user-cy8rk4os8n9 ай бұрын
Accolades definitely help, but to me it's how you play the game & not how long you play
@donmiguelarkanghel95379 ай бұрын
This is what I keep saying. The only reason why there is still a debate is because those media men who argue on MJ's behalf poorly represents his case. They focus on anecdotes and not what's on paper. They keep repeating the 6-0 argument which is becoming tiresome. To make this comment short, the difference between MJ and LBJ is a Hall of Fame career.
@andrewhite53539 ай бұрын
Not at all. MJ to basketball is like Ali to boxing. MJ transcended the sport and made it global. Until you understand the impact that MJ made on the game globally you will not fully understand why MJ is the GOAT and continue to only focus on stats as the final arbiter to make the decision.
@donmiguelarkanghel95379 ай бұрын
@@andrewhite5353 when you include impact to the game, MJ is almost untouchable. But we are discussing the greatest basketball player of all time. We only need to focus on what they did inside the court. Legacies, philanthropy, etc .. shouldn't be included. Anyway, MJ is my GOAT. All I'm saying is, the media focuses on the wrong things hence the debate is prolonged. The difference between MJ and whoever is compared to him is a Hall of Fame career.
@howardwilliams29259 ай бұрын
The 93 Suns was better than any GS team!
@hakeemolajuwon43529 ай бұрын
So were the 96' Sonics
@judahmourneth32119 ай бұрын
@@hakeemolajuwon4352 They don’t understand that because a lot of bronsexuals started watching ball in 2003
@lfranklin1189 ай бұрын
93 MVP Barkley was a straight monster, he would bully todays NBA
@Vortex_Feedz9 ай бұрын
Better than the KD warriors ? Genuinely asking , nigga a 99 baby