Sharpening end mills... the long way around.

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Rustinox

Rustinox

Жыл бұрын

How a simple project can get complicated very quickly :)
Lathe and milling work.

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@LetsRogerThat
@LetsRogerThat Жыл бұрын
Objective #1; Have fun. Check. Objective #2; Make Stuff. Check Objective #3; Learn Something. Check Objective #4 Share Knowledge, Check. Conclusion, Another awesome video. :) Gilles
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Lol. Thanks Gilles.
@hitnmiss49
@hitnmiss49 Жыл бұрын
Your problem solving ability is amazing. I look forward to your videos every Friday
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@stuartlockwood9645
@stuartlockwood9645 Жыл бұрын
Hi Michel ☺, this project went smoothly, and the outcome was excellent. I think dust extraction would be a very good idea, you wouldn't want your hobby biting you back later. As hobbyists we quite often work in conditions that would get an industrial shop closed down , and yet we carry on whith it regardless as to what long, or short term health issues there may be as a result of our enthusiasm, play safe guys, look after your health. Thanks for another great video my friend, stay safe, and have a good wkend, best wishe's to you and your's, Stuart UK.
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Thanks Stuart. I play it as safe as I can.
@eduardogarcia3049
@eduardogarcia3049 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video as always. Make sure to cover your ways when doing this. That grit will destroy them.
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I will.
@daveharriman2756
@daveharriman2756 Жыл бұрын
That was a very successful outcome, make a tool to make a tool to make something is what it's all about! I love your fearless approach to doing anything in your shop too, and you make sharpening cutters look doable for us hobbyists, cheers, Dave
@Stefan_Boerjesson
@Stefan_Boerjesson Жыл бұрын
One good KZfaqr once said: 75% of all work is making tools for the shop. I agree, but is really fun.
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
It id doable, Dave. Go for it.
@ErikBongers
@ErikBongers Жыл бұрын
Love your philosophical stories.
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Lol. Thanks.
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Nice! I have lots of dull end mills, may of which were given to me from scrap bins. Just haven't gotten to try sharpening them. Given the cost of a new good end mill, it's worth taking the time!
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Go for it, Everett. The diamond wheel costs only 25€.
@kensmedberg1130
@kensmedberg1130 Жыл бұрын
Good ! ...... now I'll box-up that drawer full of end mills and ..... 😄 . I share your frustrations with cutoff tools, but they sure make a good indexing slot for the ol' hacksaw ! And you reminded me I got to get my ol' dividing head back together -- so I can make more use-em-once tools 😃😃😃 !
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Go for it, Ken.
@keithmonarch447
@keithmonarch447 Жыл бұрын
Keith wanted to say, I did enjoy your video and it turned out as a good outcome. Yes, Michael any mill grinding is not very healthy for breathing it in. Please put together a vacuum system for future grinding projects. Take care now.
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Thanks Keith. I will.
@markrainford1219
@markrainford1219 7 ай бұрын
I look at all the tools I've made and think to myself, "what shall I make with them?" The answer is always the same, "more tools of course!"
@Rustinox
@Rustinox 7 ай бұрын
Spot on :)
@624Dudley
@624Dudley Жыл бұрын
Nicely done, Rusti, you fearless fellow! 👍
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Thanks Dudley.
@andrewdolinskiatcarpathian
@andrewdolinskiatcarpathian Жыл бұрын
How many people spend many hours preparing a meal, which is then eaten in minutes and there is nothing left. At least the hours spent at our engineering machines is rewarded with something we can enjoy, often forever. Excellent result, well done. 👏👏👍😀
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
You're right, Andrew. Thanks.
@orgonewarrior1604
@orgonewarrior1604 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Rusti, it is all about the journey to get there, and this is a nice one. And as a plus the sharpened endmill will make journeys in the future even more fun.
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
You've got that right.
@TheAyrCaveShop
@TheAyrCaveShop Жыл бұрын
Gota love it....to make a tool to sharpen a tool. Requires making two more tools and making gear to finish the tool to mount to another tool...........
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Sounds complicated, but that's indeed what it is :)
@TheRecreationalMachinist
@TheRecreationalMachinist Жыл бұрын
Two projects for the price of one! Gear cutting *and* end mill sharpening! I think a bit of dust management will help keep abrasive HSS, diamond and carbide off your machine ways, as well as out of your lungs. Thanks for sharing 👍 🇬🇧
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Working on it.
@PatrickPease
@PatrickPease Жыл бұрын
In the old days, apprentices built all their tools because they needed them and didn't have money and needed the experience anyway.
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Indeed. I's a win win...
@hilltopmachineworks2131
@hilltopmachineworks2131 Жыл бұрын
That Deckel mill sure is handy.
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
It is :)
@bulletproofpepper2
@bulletproofpepper2 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the safety tips. Thanks for sharing. I make parts for lawnmowers too. When I make a bracket I could grind or cut it with torch, I chose to use a milling machine or a lathe.
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
All for fun, Sam :)
@bulletproofpepper2
@bulletproofpepper2 Жыл бұрын
Yes, presentation of a well made part is a glimpse into the maker’s heart and soul. How you get there tells the story of your life’s journey and how far you have traveled.
@graedonmunro1793
@graedonmunro1793 Жыл бұрын
you never cease to amaze me😀👍
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Good. Thanks.
@jimdean7335
@jimdean7335 Жыл бұрын
I like restoring old machine tools. I always try to use each of my prior resorations on each new one, continuing the gene pool. Its a wonderful hobby. Not every one gets it, but I think Rusti does……
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
I get it. The fun is, it just never ends :)
@Engineerd3d
@Engineerd3d Жыл бұрын
That came out nicely Michael. Your slowly building every gear you need for the lathe. Awesome! Also you can grind the inserts down with that diamond wheel. This way you get a sharper edge and hopefully a better finish.
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Thanks Bruno. Need the tool, make the tool :)
@MyLilMule
@MyLilMule Жыл бұрын
Very well done. Making tools to make tools to make other tools that we use to make tools (and so on and so on). YES! And I love every minute of it!
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Absolutely :)
@charleskutrufis9612
@charleskutrufis9612 Жыл бұрын
I discarded an end mill this morning. Wow, you're not just another pretty face! Thank you for this video. I always learn something new watching your problem solving and patience.
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Thanks Charles.
@mikebryan544
@mikebryan544 Жыл бұрын
Cracking video, thought you nailed the hobby bit exactly. Id like to see a-bit more about the mounting of the dividing head if possible. You get a lot of use out of it.
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Sure. Here you go, Mike; kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eZ5dgpRzzMvLp6c.html
@mikebryan544
@mikebryan544 Жыл бұрын
@@Rustinox that video made for a good Sunday morning together with pt 2. Cheers. Thats a great system and credit to you many people will copy that. Maybe try your bigger vice with the shaper cutting against the fixed jaw to stop movement.
@JourneymanRandy
@JourneymanRandy Жыл бұрын
You made it. Well done Mickel no stopping you. I think I have the exact same chuck. What a piece of junk.
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
It' a "Sanou" chuck. Not good at all.
@kentuckytrapper780
@kentuckytrapper780 Жыл бұрын
Great video rusty, keep'um coming..
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Thanks. That's the idea.
@infoanorexic
@infoanorexic Жыл бұрын
It's that old "new shop/machine" problem, where a new project breeds a dozen more. Getting a machine, it turns out, is the 'easy' part. Getting it tooled and setup to use it is the complicated and/or expensive part. And sometimes, by the time you get the sub-projects done, you've forgotten what the primary project was.
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
You're right. Lucky for us, we're not in a hurry :)
@stewartfrye
@stewartfrye Жыл бұрын
Learning new skills is a life journey in itself. I never stop learning until, ARRRRRRg. then I'm done. Glad to see you still learning too. And it's cheaper than buying new, and more conveient as well.
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
You're right. And if ARRRRRRg... It means it's time for a coffee. And start again after :)
@niti1322
@niti1322 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for your knowledge. Thailand
@Rustinox
@Rustinox 11 ай бұрын
My pleasure.
@jster1963
@jster1963 Жыл бұрын
I love it! I just made a tool to make a tool work too! Great description of that.....
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
All for fun :)
@AaronEngineering
@AaronEngineering Жыл бұрын
Nice one Michel. Better those diamonds in your hand then the wife's (I hope she doesn't read the comments or I'll be in trouble 😂). Good work on the end mill re-sharping. Cheers, Aaron.
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
I my hands they will see more use :)
@bearsrodshop7067
@bearsrodshop7067 Жыл бұрын
When I am down in the dumps, Sammie says "Go watch my Michel enjoying making things and having fun sharing his talents' So here I am, and should be in my trim shop knocking out upholstery...Will leave you this, Her Sand Castle may have been taken out to sea by high tide, but it will also remain as a poster of it to keep me going :-) Your Tx Friend, Bear & Sammie. "Diamond's are a girls best friend" but a '55 Chevy is what made my Sammie Smile (@@)!
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
All the best, Bear.
@MyMiniHomeWorkshop
@MyMiniHomeWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Well done Rusty, I wish I could regrind the myriad of chipped but otherwise serviceable end mills I have
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
You will find a way. I'm sure.
@MyMiniHomeWorkshop
@MyMiniHomeWorkshop Жыл бұрын
@@Rustinox I haven't given up yet 👍
@jonsworkshop
@jonsworkshop Жыл бұрын
Hi Rusti, excellent journey to the end result. Your philosophy moment was spot on by the way 😊. Cheers, Jon
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jon.
@bhein67
@bhein67 Жыл бұрын
As always, you have an excellent video on building a tool yourself. May not be the fastest way, but even more satisfying because you did it all yourself. I think you were spot on with your explanation of why we do this a s a hobby...because we can! Cheers from Canada
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@roliasder
@roliasder Жыл бұрын
I too seem to spend most of my workshop time making tools or modifying existing ones. Main reason is just the fun of doing it. The odd "project" does happen now and again. Used to go rock climbing when younger, no marathons though.
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Just for fun :)
@grahameblankley3813
@grahameblankley3813 Жыл бұрын
Hi there Rusti Drill chuck, all the old stuff is the best🇬🇧👍.
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
I think so too.
@craftycri
@craftycri Жыл бұрын
What a wonderful program, Rustinox!! Thank you for making my day better :)
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Thanks. My pleasure.
@glenncpw
@glenncpw Жыл бұрын
Hi Michel, never ever thought about using the mill, as you did. I spent three years making a tool and cutter grinder. Good onya
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Well, At least It kept you off the streets for three years :)
@campingstoveman
@campingstoveman Жыл бұрын
As usual you make it look easy and that means we can all have a go 🤣
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Of course. Go for it.
@MrFactotum
@MrFactotum Жыл бұрын
eyup Michel, very versatile machine that mill, lovely job, i have to manage with my homemade adaptor on the bench grinder for many years. As for some comments you mentioned, as long as we are happy doing what we do, that's all that matters, it's a hobby like you say, it's easy for some to critise from an "armchair".!!!! take care see you next time, in this wonderful hobby we do,. Kev
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Thanks Kev. Just for fun :)
@garyevans9868
@garyevans9868 Жыл бұрын
Yet another great entertaining humorous video, making a tool to make another tool, very interesting and informative. The end products of which will serve you for years to come. You have made some really well made tools, please keep your videos coming l look forward to seeing them every week regards Gary
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Thanks Gary.
@houseofbrokendobbsthings5537
@houseofbrokendobbsthings5537 Жыл бұрын
Good project. And…. you are correct, its a hobby and a personal challenge all in one. Nice job on the gear and the mandrels.
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@matspatpc
@matspatpc Жыл бұрын
Excellent work. In software development, the "I want to make a , but first I need to make several other things" is called Yak Shaving - after some cartoon somewhere. It is clearly a common thing in lots of different areas, and machining is definitely one of those. I haven't posted your parcel yet, will try to get round to it over the weekend - and I'll pop a couple of TNMG inserts in the box too - I have a few, and at least one kind that I find works quite well for general purpose lathe-work.
@howardosborne8647
@howardosborne8647 Жыл бұрын
I often find I have several bears to skin before I can get started on the Yak shaving operation🤣
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Yak Shaving? I didn't know that. Thanks in advance, Mats.
@outsidescrewball
@outsidescrewball Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed! Great video production/discussion/demonstration/builds along with the hobby comments! FYI, just got a South Bend 7” shaper
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
That' great news, Chuck. 7" is the ideal hobby size machine.
@howder1951
@howder1951 Жыл бұрын
Nice work Michel, as my hobby buddy said, nothing like a freshly ground milling bit to make your day! enjoyed, cheers!
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
He's right :)
@HaxbyShed
@HaxbyShed Жыл бұрын
A lot in that one Michel. Mill as a tool and cutter grinder, yes I've thought of it. Your compound swivel table makes it easier than mine. Dividing head is on my shopping list. Your gear cutting was good, the Dekel evidently quite rigid. Good comments about hobby shop - learning and developing skills and teaching (like you) is never wasted time, even if we don't make money from it. Cheers
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul. It's all just for fun :)
@bostedtap8399
@bostedtap8399 Жыл бұрын
Diamonds, yes 😀. Innovative and great work, happy new lathe gear ⚙ 😀. Very nice job, thanks for sharing.
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@neilgarrad4931
@neilgarrad4931 Жыл бұрын
Thanks.....Safe is good
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
I think so too.
@AstraWerke
@AstraWerke Жыл бұрын
Hej Michel, great effort! Two things I want to mention: First: We all saw that sharpening that end mill worked out fine. It may not work out with every cutter though. The more cutting depth a mill sees, the more chipping work is done by the spiral flutes, as opposed to the plane face. Thus, it'll either become necessary to grind away the face of the mill until all of the dull portion of the flute is turned to dust (say, you took many 5mm cuts with your mill, you'd need to shorten it by 5mm) - or get into resharpening the flutes of the cutter, too. Especially carbide cutters will tend to have small breakoffs at the very tip of the corner (making them look a little like 45° cutters), which can be taken care of much more efficiently by resharpening the flutes. A jig could be made - or a used grinder for 100 bucks or so will do the job fine, too. And secondly, my experience with gear cutters and circular saws in the mill was a funny one: At first, I thought the thin blade would just shatter if I took a hair too deep a cut. So I went carefully - and judging from the hammering noise the mill made, I must have been right at the edge of what was possible. So I took a little less cutting depth next time - only to find the mill being even noisier! One day, I got curious - and dialed in 50mm depth on a 135mm sawblade. The first few revolutions promised me it'd become increadibly loud - then all of a sudden, the noise died right down and the blade marched through the metal in almost complete silence. My only explanation is that by the deeper cut, more teeth were in contact with the workpiece, thus stabilizing the cutter for each entry of a new tooth.
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
This all makes perfect sense, Adrian. Thanks.
@cooperised
@cooperised Жыл бұрын
Important with thin blades to take the cut in a single pass if you possibly can, because otherwise chips from subsequent passes can pack up in the slot and jam the cutter.
@eyuptony
@eyuptony Жыл бұрын
Good, get me out of here Rustinox. Great to see it working. Looking forward to the tweaks. Tony
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Thanks Tony.
@paulpipitone8357
@paulpipitone8357 Жыл бұрын
Great video on all fronts good work, funny and to top it off a surprise graphic 👍
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul.
@bazil538
@bazil538 Жыл бұрын
yet another excellent vid, Thank you :)
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@alasdairhamilton1574
@alasdairhamilton1574 Жыл бұрын
Michel, 😱breathing dust not a great thing, nor is Smoking 🚬 😤. Stay safe and well 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Thanks Al. I think I already knew that :)
@rickpalechuk4411
@rickpalechuk4411 Жыл бұрын
Hobby= Fun & Challenging Cheers
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Spot on.
@TrPrecisionMachining
@TrPrecisionMachining Жыл бұрын
good video rustinox
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@mr.ranyhomemade2466
@mr.ranyhomemade2466 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this I wondering what is the best grinder tools do I need
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Thanks Mr. Randy. Use what you have and be happy with it :)
@daveschroedersworkshop4479
@daveschroedersworkshop4479 Жыл бұрын
Nice job Michel! Nothing is ever easy, is it?
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
It's all part of it :)
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz Жыл бұрын
Good work as usual Michel. You worked around the problem and got a good result. What thread were you trying to cut? Is your lathe setup for metric or imperial thread cutting?
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Thanks. This was a 1,25mm pitch.
@user-yd7mp1py2x
@user-yd7mp1py2x 8 ай бұрын
Good afternoon. We protect ourselves from dust with surgical, disposable masks. And when we sharpen our incisors, we also wear them. A colleague wanted to ask you at what engine speeds do you process metal with these cutters?
@Rustinox
@Rustinox 8 ай бұрын
I run it at 1900 RPM. It's the maximum this machine can do.
@jrsydvl7218
@jrsydvl7218 Жыл бұрын
I find that I keep making random projects more complicated just to make more tools.
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Lol. It's a hobby :)
@Stefan_Boerjesson
@Stefan_Boerjesson Жыл бұрын
As always, an entertaining and inspiring video. thanks! When the digitally controlled rotating table, standing, is running that sharpening work could be done here too. What RPM is the diamond cup should have? Though it was much more than a mill could produce. Bad dust... Would the Covid masks do? Still got 2 bags of them.
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
There is no maximum RPM marking on the disc. So, Who knows?
@gregsmith2262
@gregsmith2262 Жыл бұрын
I have had luck using inserts for aluminium
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
That works too :)
@stevewilliams2498
@stevewilliams2498 Жыл бұрын
Should you be using Diamond on HSS ?
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
I don't think it's a problem. The main goal is to sharpen carbide. This was just a test.
@jacqueso8424
@jacqueso8424 Жыл бұрын
At my employment place just 5 day ago, we were discussing these kind of grinding methods and means to achieve sharpened tools . To dress grindwheels with diamond dressers. I wasnt fanatic about the idea straight away, though i thought the manufacturers took this scenario's into account, even with dust covers, masks and i wouldnt feel safe. Am i seeing too much in this😅😅🤔?unprotected we are inhaling microscopic knives😬?
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
I use dust extractor and mask for grinding. But, indeed, it's impossible to eliminate 100% of the dust.
@pyromedichd1
@pyromedichd1 Жыл бұрын
The dust is bad for you and your machine.
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Indeed, it is.
@royeaton3148
@royeaton3148 Жыл бұрын
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