Stefan Molyneux's Fall of Rome - A Response

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Shaun

Shaun

7 жыл бұрын

If you make it through this video you get a prize.
Smiling at the laziness of just stealing his thumbnail and writing 'response' on it. Leave me alone, I've got the flu.
Contact:
Twitter - / shaun_jen
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Sources:
Stefan's video - • Video
The Matriarchal Lineage of Corruption - • Video
Stefan's channel - / channel
Website: freedomainradio.com/
Stefan's sources - www.fdrurl.com/fall-of-rome
Anything else available on request.
Most stuff by Shaun, additional research by Jen. That's right, she actually put a little work in for once. Shaun now dead from shock

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@Shenaldrac
@Shenaldrac 5 жыл бұрын
1. Ruled by brothers who were raised by wolves 2. Not ruled by brothers raised by wolves 3. Rome collapses
@ggmm2480
@ggmm2480 5 жыл бұрын
1. Not at war with Carthage 2. At war with Carthage 3. Rome collapses
@cooperross9495
@cooperross9495 5 жыл бұрын
Actually, many Romans in their own time believed that not having a worthy opponent to challenge them (like Carthage) was what made the empire weak; many wished that Carthage had never been destroyed.
@nirolfazil
@nirolfazil 5 жыл бұрын
@@cooperross9495 weren't the parthians a worthy opponent?
@cooperross9495
@cooperross9495 5 жыл бұрын
By most measures, definitely, but you know how it is--people complaining about societal decline are always trying to come up with reasons for why the past was better. If there's a hole in their argument, they ignore it.
@nitewarden
@nitewarden 5 жыл бұрын
So it's the extermination of the timber wolf in America that's led to this country's decline. I fucking knew it.
@DARE0451
@DARE0451 3 жыл бұрын
I think "women are to blame for criminals because all criminals were birthed by women" is the WILDEST take I've ever heard
@softiejace
@softiejace 2 жыл бұрын
so are men powerful and decisive, or do they actually have zero agency and women are the cause for everything they do? pick one stefan lol
@timothymclean
@timothymclean 2 жыл бұрын
Technically, he says that all criminals were birthed by women who chose to marry assholes. This is a claim supported by
@EZLN
@EZLN 2 жыл бұрын
@@timothymclean yup supported by
@FumbleSquid
@FumbleSquid 2 жыл бұрын
@@timothymclean Don't worry, I'm sure he has a credible scientific source that assholery is genetically heritable. We just have to be patient that he will provide it, 5 years after the fact.
@chrisbunting5437
@chrisbunting5437 2 жыл бұрын
@@FumbleSquid Maybe the answer was "nothing" all along?
@ismaelismael8543
@ismaelismael8543 Жыл бұрын
''the answer is obvious but political correctness prevents us from talking about it'' is the most ominous answer anyone could give when asked about how to deal with the urban poor
@floreroafloreril1458
@floreroafloreril1458 10 ай бұрын
It leads to every possible answer, really. Like, the answer could be "just start eating them. Literally devour the poor", but it could also be "just behead all landlords and make a public example out of them". 💀
@techissus7449
@techissus7449 9 ай бұрын
​@@floreroafloreril1458the latter has proven itself to work
@gabrieldavis7128
@gabrieldavis7128 9 ай бұрын
@@floreroafloreril1458 The latter doesn’t sound like the wrong answer.
@gsp4prez
@gsp4prez 8 ай бұрын
He’s a Nazi, so it would definitely be a really bad idea to follow anything he says.
@LadyDoomsinger
@LadyDoomsinger 4 ай бұрын
Can we just take a moment to acknowledge the irony of talking about how "political correctness" prevents us from talking?
@laura-vv5gd
@laura-vv5gd 2 жыл бұрын
"You are descended from heroes" Stefan, I'm German, my grandfathers literally fought for the Nazis.
@Vohalika
@Vohalika 2 жыл бұрын
Yeeeaaah, that one made me wonder if he has a German audience. Not made up of holocaust deniers. Chances are slim.
@laurioho2041
@laurioho2041 2 жыл бұрын
They all propably believe in the clean wehrmacht myth anyway
@GodsGreatest
@GodsGreatest 2 жыл бұрын
@@laurioho2041 lol Lol Oo
@chocolateneko9912
@chocolateneko9912 2 жыл бұрын
@@laurioho2041 lmfao true
@chocolateneko9912
@chocolateneko9912 2 жыл бұрын
The nazi phase sucks but if u go further back like waaaaay further back Germany has done really cool things (one of the most important countries in Europe)
@Rissa_1322
@Rissa_1322 5 жыл бұрын
Oh my god it just never stops. "If women chose nice guys, we..." We? Buddy, you wouldn't be in there.
@erinhaury5773
@erinhaury5773 5 жыл бұрын
I particularly enjoyed the part where Stefan was literally ranting like an asshole about how stupid women are for being attracted to assholes. I feel awful for this fool's poor daughter.
@GhengisJohn
@GhengisJohn 5 жыл бұрын
@@erinhaury5773 "It's almost always the same thing either, the woman chose to mate with a bad man OR, for driving a good man away, which is even worse." Translation: "Even when a man chooses to abandon his children, that is ultimately the woman's fault." I can't stand to hear this man talk.
@Flackon
@Flackon 5 жыл бұрын
@@GhengisJohn her "fault" insofar she chose to mate with the bad man instead of choosing a good man, not her fault for the kids ending up abandoned. There are many things to nitpick about the video but that part was fairly straightforward
@GhengisJohn
@GhengisJohn 5 жыл бұрын
@@Flackon My brother, I don't even see that as straightforward because real life is a lot more complicated than that. But I salute your Ramirez avatar.
@Flackon
@Flackon 5 жыл бұрын
@@GhengisJohn Yeah it is quite more complicated but I think the guy here was alluding to how women have the sexual selective power which is true in aggregate (although It likely wasn't true in the times of the patriarchy and certainly not in the Roman Empire)
@yojelle1
@yojelle1 4 жыл бұрын
1. Egyptians offer mummified crocodiles to Sobek 2. Egyptians don’t offer mummified crocodiles to Sobek 3. Egypt collapses CHECKMATE GLOBEHEADS
@thatbadplayer2243
@thatbadplayer2243 4 жыл бұрын
Jelle Hondelink the Liberal KZfaq Universe
@karolineCPH
@karolineCPH 4 жыл бұрын
Hail Sobek!
@ShizoMoses
@ShizoMoses 4 жыл бұрын
@@thatbadplayer2243 You might have composed my favourite comment this year, already. Bravo!!
@jimhaverlock9784
@jimhaverlock9784 4 жыл бұрын
Jelle Hondelink hail Sobek!
@Hehe-nt4oe
@Hehe-nt4oe 4 жыл бұрын
All hail Sobek!
@Jimmy40k
@Jimmy40k 2 жыл бұрын
You have to love how he makes it a woman's fault for having children with "assholes" bu there is no blame for the "assholes" themselves. Absolutely fascinating.
@4cps777
@4cps777 Жыл бұрын
Stefan just reminds me of so-called "incels".
@danieljohnston2379
@danieljohnston2379 Жыл бұрын
It is accurate to say that we have some shit people in the world who are that way because their parents were assholes or chose partners poorly. But ALL genders are capable of both being or ending up with assholes. And plenty of people who were raised by assholes grow up to be good people, and vice versa. He talks as though women are deliberately choosing the worst possible partners, and totally discounts the fact that you can be with a person for a long time before their true colours come out. He also never provides any examples of what a non asshole partner would be like which tells me he doesn't know, or does know but knows he isn't that example so he doesn't bring it up. It is highly upsetting not just what this guy says but that there are such bitter, deluded, hate filled people in the world. He looks too old to reform his views but also he is intelligent enough to really be dangerous
@michaelgoldstein8516
@michaelgoldstein8516 Жыл бұрын
Classic misogyny. It’s not the man’s fault for being an abuser. It’s the woman’s fault for being with him.
@bellatordei3440
@bellatordei3440 Жыл бұрын
Mothers play a huge role in the development of the personality
@Jimmy40k
@Jimmy40k Жыл бұрын
@@bellatordei3440 As do fathers and at some point adults are all responsible for their own actions.
@breakfast0waifu54
@breakfast0waifu54 2 жыл бұрын
Im a victim of child abuse and I would not call my mother a monster for marrying my father. She was a victim as well. This man is fucking insane
@bellatordei3440
@bellatordei3440 Жыл бұрын
You don't understand him, if she was not egoistic, she wouldn't Mary him
@marcb.4401
@marcb.4401 Жыл бұрын
@@bellatordei3440 not very smart, are you?
@hand13932
@hand13932 Жыл бұрын
@@bellatordei3440 dont forget to wear your helmet
@bellatordei3440
@bellatordei3440 Жыл бұрын
@@marcb.4401 why?
@bellatordei3440
@bellatordei3440 Жыл бұрын
@@hand13932 also the cooking gloves
@partylikeits1066
@partylikeits1066 5 жыл бұрын
He's against states and authoritarianism yet idolises Rome? LOL
@wirelessbluestone5983
@wirelessbluestone5983 5 жыл бұрын
Zena 364 Wait so by his logic the culturally acceptable practice of fucking boys and men in Roman society is “lack of degeneracy”
@RedVelvetBlackleather
@RedVelvetBlackleather 5 жыл бұрын
Zena 364 Agree.
@RedVelvetBlackleather
@RedVelvetBlackleather 5 жыл бұрын
Ainan Kashif Nice token example. Lol they still do worst in other parts of the world
@Candyqueen3211
@Candyqueen3211 5 жыл бұрын
madison knight\ Decayed knight. Your lack of comprehension of ancient Roman culture isn’t surprising, but yeah actually sexual relationships between older and younger men were commonplace in Rome, and also Athens. That was just the norm. Dude. Seriously. You can’t take what Stefan says as valuable info. He’s an actual, legit white supremacist. Don’t make yourself dumber by falling for his idiocy
@RedVelvetBlackleather
@RedVelvetBlackleather 5 жыл бұрын
Arexis Renoldi Rome was also able to interstate a multitude of cultures and religions to its nation and culture encompasses in some the greatest architectural feats in the world. Some society’s still allow sexual relations with younger people.
@ravedubin4655
@ravedubin4655 5 жыл бұрын
"I encourage you all to go watch Stefan video" Yeah, I'm have to give that a solid no there, chief
@lauren8135
@lauren8135 5 жыл бұрын
XD best username I've seen in a while.
@henryhaile1653
@henryhaile1653 5 жыл бұрын
As a wise man once said "Negatory, good buddy."
@Ubermensch9240
@Ubermensch9240 5 жыл бұрын
I feel sick just from the clips. How much weed is this SOB on?!?!?
@ziyilauren
@ziyilauren 5 жыл бұрын
I’m worried I’d lose a few brain cells watching it
@Ubermensch9240
@Ubermensch9240 4 жыл бұрын
My brain still hurts from his bullshit about Zootopia.
@theantipope4354
@theantipope4354 3 жыл бұрын
The funniest thing about Molyneux's ranting about "women choosing arseholes" is that he thinks he's *not* an arsehole.
@SorowFame
@SorowFame Жыл бұрын
If women chose partners based on them being assholes Stefan would have a harem.
@TheGamingCathedral
@TheGamingCathedral Жыл бұрын
It's always like that with guys like these lmao. Complete lack of self-awareness.
@Frenchhornhero
@Frenchhornhero 3 жыл бұрын
I love that “women choosing assholes” is both a great reproductive strategy and the end of the human race for Stefan.
@pineapple7024
@pineapple7024 Жыл бұрын
Wait a second. Holy shit. That logical conclusion was such a fucking shambles that only after reading your comment did I realize how overwhelmingly shit it was
@Gloomdrake
@Gloomdrake Жыл бұрын
Also it's doubly funny since he's an asshole, himself
@JFRAMEUSA
@JFRAMEUSA Жыл бұрын
So why do women choose assholes?
@Frenchhornhero
@Frenchhornhero Жыл бұрын
@@JFRAMEUSA Some women think they can fix an asshole, some women don’t think the man in question is an asshole, some women choose a man that wasn’t an asshole before but became an asshole over time, and so on ad nauseum. Your question is so weird because it could be met with *countless* responses. To reduce a woman’s choice of an asshole partner to reproductive strategism is silly.
@lolasdm6959
@lolasdm6959 Жыл бұрын
No no no, I think women are great, they didn't choose him.
@philpottkentucky4802
@philpottkentucky4802 5 жыл бұрын
Molyneaux: "Why did Rome fall? Because women won't have sex with me"
@ebrelus7687
@ebrelus7687 3 жыл бұрын
Nope. Thats how Sparta fell.
@Ponera-Sama
@Ponera-Sama 3 жыл бұрын
Molyneaux is married and has a daughter
@benayasdebela1164
@benayasdebela1164 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ponera-Sama bet he wished for a son 😒
@anaestrada6906
@anaestrada6906 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ponera-Sama I feel for those poor women. I can't imagine the amount of internalized self hatred you need to have to marry a man like that... I hope they're ok.
@itskarl7575
@itskarl7575 2 жыл бұрын
@@anaestrada6906 And yet he's complaining that women marry assholes. He should be glad, or he'd still be an incel.
@fulcrumthebrave5715
@fulcrumthebrave5715 5 жыл бұрын
>Woman has baby >Rome collapses >Wamen bad
@therealjuan6184
@therealjuan6184 5 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Scrambles >Jimmy smart
@suddenlyfrogs9504
@suddenlyfrogs9504 4 жыл бұрын
@Boxcarcifer Ok, and what about communism/Socialism apologisers? They killed more people in a single century than Religion had managed. (Ok yes, less people going back in time, but then... still one century, Vs. 2000 years? I've actually done the reverse of the usual. I've gone from accidentally Marxist, like any and all Lefties, to Right Wing. All I ever selfishly wanted was to be entertained. Commies ruined all the entertainment. PS. I'm not a /fan/ of Stefan, but I do like Philosophy and I do like to hear his stances on many things. But all the no cos' he's bad, are no better than the Orange Man Bad Brigade.
@jomotaku
@jomotaku 4 жыл бұрын
@@suddenlyfrogs9504 every person that died in a capitalist country is someone who died due to capitalism
@suddenlyfrogs9504
@suddenlyfrogs9504 4 жыл бұрын
@@jomotaku If you believe that, good luck in life. Seriously people like you are no different to the Religious Puritans who feared technology and 'Mad Scientists', only you all fear the 'Greedy Capitalist'. You all anthropomorphize either Boogeyman so there's something to blame with all the hate in your hearts, provided they're not your immediate Bill payers, because that just makes (The multitude of people I've encountered who are Anti Capitalist, when they mean Anti-Corporatist) them look unbelievably think and selfish, which most Progressives turn out to be. I know, I was one of them. Takes a long, long time to notice how Hippies, Hipsters etc, etc are often really nasty pieces of work. Secular Puritans, again... good luck with that.
@jomotaku
@jomotaku 4 жыл бұрын
@@suddenlyfrogs9504 its funny that u cannot see the irony in me giving u a meme answer to ur meme statement and then instantly making me out to be some indoctrinated individual, like im not sure maybe ure trying to make fun of me right now but the inability to critically think about a statement and instantly resort to random generalizations seems to me like ure a cardboard cutout rightwinger
@ClaudiaNW
@ClaudiaNW 3 жыл бұрын
So Stefan's sources are: (1) A work of pop history written by an early-twentieth-century British general, which Stefan shamelessly plagiarised; (2) An audiobook by a libertarian crank, which Stefan shamelessly plagiarised; (3) A (probably) legitimate academic article, which Stefan selectively quoted and misunderstood; and (4) Ancient Roman writers grumbling about "kids these days" as old people have done throughout human history.
@GokoArkham
@GokoArkham 3 жыл бұрын
Tbf, Stefan's work is a big [CITATION NEEDED] joke. It's amazing, not even a broken clock.
@ieat10kittens94
@ieat10kittens94 2 жыл бұрын
“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.” ― Socrates
@nephone
@nephone 2 жыл бұрын
My older family members when feeling nostalgic: "Back in the day, we would pull pranks on our terrible teachers, run away from homes for a while, we were free, we did what we wanted" My older family members when they're cranky: "Back in the day, we respected our elders! I would never in a million years say something like this to a teacher! I LISTENED to my PARENTS because I RESPECTED ThEM!!"
@SorowFame
@SorowFame 2 жыл бұрын
@@ieat10kittens94 they crossed their legs? By Zeus what horror!
@crazyitalianguy000
@crazyitalianguy000 Жыл бұрын
(5) he made it the fuck up (6) his nice guy/incel ramblings
@joedatius
@joedatius 2 жыл бұрын
its incredible how this all boils down to a middle aged man applying "nice guys finish last" to the fall of the Rome.
@paulallen8109
@paulallen8109 Жыл бұрын
It's incredible how this all boils down to you agreeing with him and disagreeing with him at the same time without being aware it. You know, sort of like the same like a neo-nazi claiming to hate wars brought about by international jewry but at the same time glorifying wars as both noble and heroic. Molyneux is useless. But most of you chimps commenting here are just raging chimps trying to *out-chimp* him and as such you're in no position to point fingers at him. You know what the irony is? You're unwittingly empowering the likes of him because you're too ignorant to see that your high-school p*ssing contest level retorts are NOT going to stop vile scum like him.
@FortuitousOwl
@FortuitousOwl 5 жыл бұрын
The “what is Stefan talking about” game is my favorite
@Ugly_German_Truths
@Ugly_German_Truths 4 жыл бұрын
But if you did not listen to the rant already you'd never be able to guess correctly... he is totally out there... all the time.
@Arana975
@Arana975 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ugly_German_Truths e Pko
@alyssinclair8598
@alyssinclair8598 4 жыл бұрын
Gonna be honest. I just imagine him ranting to little girls about how frozen represents the sexual market place and giggle
@willowwisp2981
@willowwisp2981 4 жыл бұрын
​I'm ashamed that I could guess accurately despite never having seen any of the mentioned videos.
@notverysur3rightnow145
@notverysur3rightnow145 4 жыл бұрын
Willow Wisp how?
@shartman2
@shartman2 5 жыл бұрын
Stefan: "I worked in a daycare" Have more terrifying words ever been spoken?
@int0the3p1t32
@int0the3p1t32 4 жыл бұрын
Individual Fat1 you should see the sorts of people that work in social services.
@thatbadplayer2243
@thatbadplayer2243 4 жыл бұрын
“Trump is president”
@hydras5947
@hydras5947 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta get those fresh, ripe, fertile eggs early!
@notverysur3rightnow145
@notverysur3rightnow145 4 жыл бұрын
ThatBad Player I don't necessarily think he's good but politicians doing stupid things isn't new whereas I don't expect daycare workers to be ... well...stephan molyneux
@NotimetoVero
@NotimetoVero 4 жыл бұрын
@ruslas zubres nothing wrong with a man in daycare, but if said man goes on to say "all bad men came from WOMEN'S VAGINAS, and we need to hold them accountable!". Idk if I would want my child around said man.
@ZannyAisling
@ZannyAisling 3 жыл бұрын
"The most recent republican president... George W. Bush-" felt like being struck in the head like a bowling ball how has it only been 4-ish years
@XuntosIzor
@XuntosIzor 4 жыл бұрын
24:00 I noticed hidden in his incel rage speech, he slipped up talking about "assholes" and accidentally dropped "black" in there and tried to change the sentence into "keeping a flame alive" in a vague metaphor. He very nearly revealed in no uncertain terms what his real problem is
@rodrigodemiguellamminen5244
@rodrigodemiguellamminen5244 2 жыл бұрын
That sounded deliberate imo. It sounded intentional and there's a solid pause. Scary stuff
@ieat10kittens94
@ieat10kittens94 2 жыл бұрын
A black guy got his crush?
@maryanne1830
@maryanne1830 Жыл бұрын
I heard that too. I wondered what he meant (I can guess) 🙄
@bellatordei3440
@bellatordei3440 Жыл бұрын
And what's that? Because you seem paranoic
@bellatordei3440
@bellatordei3440 Жыл бұрын
@@rodrigodemiguellamminen5244 what's scary about that?
@graceohanrahan2865
@graceohanrahan2865 5 жыл бұрын
"That's from his video about Zootopia" ... WHAT?
@DeaconShadow
@DeaconShadow 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. As noted by others, Molyneux is fucking unhinged.
@ahniandfriends123
@ahniandfriends123 5 жыл бұрын
Funny, considering how these types treat furries.
@ahniandfriends123
@ahniandfriends123 5 жыл бұрын
Funny, considering how these types treat furries.
@Ubermensch9240
@Ubermensch9240 5 жыл бұрын
Damn........ We said the exact same thing....... months apart.
@graceohanrahan2865
@graceohanrahan2865 5 жыл бұрын
Nice
@XatxiFly
@XatxiFly 7 жыл бұрын
Stefan: Stop saying your ancestors were evil! Also Stefan: Evil exists because women have been propagating it genetically for generations!
@kyro8559
@kyro8559 5 жыл бұрын
He means that your male ancestors aren’t evil. Whenever he says anything about society or ancestors or the world, he means men only.
@BaronCemetery
@BaronCemetery 5 жыл бұрын
@@kyro8559 even then he asserts that being an asshole is a "good mating strategy," so statistically it's likely both your ancestors were assholes.
@aglazeddonut6635
@aglazeddonut6635 5 жыл бұрын
​@@BaronCemetery that's not statistically likely, that's a fact. ♪♪ *Hello darkness my old friend...* ♪♪
@trevbarlow9719
@trevbarlow9719 5 жыл бұрын
He hasn't said that.
@AshDemonYoung
@AshDemonYoung 5 жыл бұрын
@@aglazeddonut6635 You got a source for those statistics?
@xx_koneka_xx6297
@xx_koneka_xx6297 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who was raised by a single mother (a fairly young one at that) his comments on it really upset me :/ My biological father left when I was really young so I have no idea what their relationship was like, but what I do know is that she's done her goddamn hardest to raise me well. She's who I'm closest too by far, she's protective as a mother should be, but never overbearing. She's only ever raised her voice at me if she was worried by something I did, and she still makes sure to apologize for it. TL;DR: Single moms are fucking awesome, and I can't believe this human thumb even TRIED to insinuate otherwise
@samwindmill8264
@samwindmill8264 2 жыл бұрын
Stefan Molynuts has never known shit from clay about what he talks about. The very pinnacle of a pseudo intellectual arsehole.
@beanburrito4405
@beanburrito4405 2 жыл бұрын
Human thumb lol, accurate
@unstoppablesync5044
@unstoppablesync5044 2 жыл бұрын
Unfair to thumbs, thumbs are strong and necessary for tool use and technological progress, Stephen is none of these things
@nobodyimportant6582
@nobodyimportant6582 2 жыл бұрын
Stephan is a fuckin pinkie. Just kinda there, weakest of the group, rarely used, and you can live without it quite easily
@lizardperson9648
@lizardperson9648 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with this take is that it's more of an exception than a rule. A single mother, usually, has lower income, less time to spend on a child, and generally is not particularly wise since she ended up being a single mom. Now there are exceptions, as there always are, but a majority of single moms are not a better or even an equal option to a full family. And yes, I was raised by a single mom. It wasn't fun.
@Goodoldpal_
@Goodoldpal_ Жыл бұрын
I used to watch Stefan religiously and he was a gateway to further radicalization. I never entertained opposing view points or even took time to deconstruct his arguments. Thank you Shaun for making this video and exposing Stefan for who he is. I’ve said it before, your videos have brought me back to the light and been instrumental in my de-radicalization process, along with going to university and and speaking with very patient professors
@KingNik1994
@KingNik1994 Жыл бұрын
Massive props to you for having the intellectual integrity to question your beliefs. I'm glad you found your way out.
@SuperBalders
@SuperBalders 11 ай бұрын
welcome back, Goodoldpal :)
@OfficialNotna
@OfficialNotna 11 ай бұрын
Do you support his pro-race realism position?
@skivvy3565
@skivvy3565 5 ай бұрын
@Goodoldpal_ Glad to have you back. I missed you
@goingunder2548
@goingunder2548 5 ай бұрын
The thought of Stefan only being the 'gateway' to even worse people is terrifying
@alistairpage-mcgill2723
@alistairpage-mcgill2723 5 жыл бұрын
Stefan has a pretty low opinion of women for a guy who rails against Islam's treatment of women
@riotgrrrl8807
@riotgrrrl8807 5 жыл бұрын
I sometimes say: The only thing that is greater than some people's sexism, is their racism.
@thrawnprotocol9780
@thrawnprotocol9780 4 жыл бұрын
@@riotgrrrl8807 Islam is not a race tho
@riotgrrrl8807
@riotgrrrl8807 4 жыл бұрын
@@thrawnprotocol9780 True. But sometimes I'm wondering if race and religion are kind of all mixed together in this issue, meaning what people are actually opposing is not some religion, it's more that that religion is foreign to them. Like there are many people who can go on an endless rant how Christianity is somehow superior to Islam, totally disregarding the horrible Christian ideologies or what's written in the bible. More importantly: People who want to exclude Muslims totally ignore that Muslims are themselves actually hurt by this religion and by other Muslims. So they might say "Islam is bad because.... FGM" but what they won't say is "Let's make sure girls are being saved from FGM, for example by taking in Muslim immigrants who want to leave that society". So it seems they are against the people who want to flee because of their race, because even when Muslims oppose harmful ideas in Islam and are themselves harmed by them (more than any non muslim), there are still people who want to deny those Muslims refuge or immigration. That's why I inferred that at least sometimes racism is just hiding behind being against Islam, especially if the criticizing party is religious themselves. It's like people are using the "look, how bad Islam is, it's harming people and it's evil!" - argument and are just using the Muslim victims of religious fundamentalism to justify their bigotry, without wanting to help them. And why? Maybe because they're just racist. They can't be genuinely concerned about the harm an ideology does and at the same time deny the victims of that ideology any help. I'm an atheist by the way. I hope my answer made sense. I'm not an expert and race seems more like an arbitrary construct to me. Believe it or not, I'm German and in Germany, we don't really use the word "race" anymore (at least normal people don't...). We talk more about culture or country of origin when we're discussing such topics.
@morerobotwarscontent1476
@morerobotwarscontent1476 4 жыл бұрын
@@thrawnprotocol9780 in the case of Islam it is because people don't like it because it's a brown people religion.
@thrawnprotocol9780
@thrawnprotocol9780 4 жыл бұрын
@@riotgrrrl8807 Good comment. One thing tho, FGM isnt islamic. It is a cultural thing. Neither the quran nor any credible hadith mentiones it
@thetruephoenixful
@thetruephoenixful 4 жыл бұрын
When Stephan Molineux talks about women he sounds like a guy whose trying to scientifically understand why the pretty girl at the bar shot him down
@Neil-Aspinall
@Neil-Aspinall 4 жыл бұрын
Nah
@tttc
@tttc 3 жыл бұрын
Science gives objectivity. Objectivity gives distance. Distance protects his ego.
@grantdixon9421
@grantdixon9421 3 жыл бұрын
And utterly failing to understand the real reasons. He treats women badly, therefore they don't like him.
@qbertq1
@qbertq1 3 жыл бұрын
I used to say that about Tucker Carlson as well.
@ArmLegLegArmHead47
@ArmLegLegArmHead47 3 жыл бұрын
He is just a grown up Incel, that’s all
@freyabaade2810
@freyabaade2810 3 жыл бұрын
I love him going "There only used to be elite universities like Harvard, Oxford and Cambridge." Dude. My University is older than your freaking country.
@TikoVerhelst
@TikoVerhelst 9 ай бұрын
Multiple non-elite Dutch universities are even older than his country LOL.
@freyabaade2810
@freyabaade2810 9 ай бұрын
@@TikoVerhelst lol. I even studied at one :D
@TheGalaxyWings
@TheGalaxyWings 6 ай бұрын
My high school was 30 years younger than his country
@roninfredricson6958
@roninfredricson6958 Жыл бұрын
Whenever people talk about how family values have gone down and fathers used to be strong and manly and mothers used to only focus on loving their children and loving their husband and everybody always knew what they were doing sound like toddlers describing their parents at preschool. Like they managed to live a whole ass 60 something years and never understood that things feel different when you're a child. "My daddy was the biggest strongest daddy in the world and he worked the hardest job and my mommy only ever thought about me and never about sex! How come now that I'm an adult parents aren't like that!? >:("
@Its2EZbaby
@Its2EZbaby Жыл бұрын
Wow you just really hit the nail on the head. I’ve never been able to put this into words before but you’re 1000% right, that’s exactly what it is.
@20shitzngiggles
@20shitzngiggles 7 жыл бұрын
The "Rationals" always tell me that SJW's are the sensitive ones that insert their ideology into everything like movies and video games. But then there's Stefan who inserts his views on evolutionary tribal warfare into fucking Zootopia 3:31
@Tavishication
@Tavishication 7 жыл бұрын
20shitzngiggles It's only bad when the left does it!... Or something like that.
@NicholasW943
@NicholasW943 7 жыл бұрын
The left is held to a higher standard than the right.
@nivvanderg555
@nivvanderg555 7 жыл бұрын
20shitzngiggles Not to mention his patronizing and blatantly sexist mommy issues being forced into his analysis of fucking Star Wars.
@samuellee2005
@samuellee2005 7 жыл бұрын
20shitzngiggles yes, because films never try to give a message
@ryanyoung2421
@ryanyoung2421 7 жыл бұрын
That wasn't even the worst thing he used in that video. IIRC he devolved into this argument about World War 1 and white feathers. It went on for about 5 minutes before he brought up Zootopia again.
@GibusWearingMann
@GibusWearingMann 6 жыл бұрын
My mom married a well-educated, hardworking, intelligent, kind man, who it turns out didn't have very much clue how to raise a child. It doesn't take an asshole to make a bad parent.
@connorbranscombe6819
@connorbranscombe6819 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah my dad passed away, isn’t my mom such a cunt for marrying someone who died?
@dontspikemydrink9382
@dontspikemydrink9382 3 жыл бұрын
@@connorbranscombe6819 she is if she married him after his death ;)
@sadpee7710
@sadpee7710 3 жыл бұрын
also: being an asshole isn't inheritable let alone genetic. there is no "asshole gene" that they're willingly passing on or anything. the reason people are abusive for example does not (contrary to popular belief) seem to correlate with having abusive parents. (idk about the source for that but i saw it in a book called "why does he do that?" in case you want to look for it. ik it's not enough but hey). though that connection does grow far stronger in the cases of particularly violent offenders. whereas stefan seems to think that if every woman married a "nice guy" that abuse would disappear.
@ebrelus7687
@ebrelus7687 3 жыл бұрын
Right. Parenting is a skill not everyone has. But it should be part of our education. Lack of education isn't excuse why we didnt educate in this or other field we should.
@Ponera-Sama
@Ponera-Sama 3 жыл бұрын
My mom's marriage to my dad was an arranged marriage by their fathers in the fundamentalist community I grew up in. It must have been her fault for agreeing to marry a husband who was chosen for her by other men.
@laurabeardslee4857
@laurabeardslee4857 Жыл бұрын
So I have been put in the spot where an angry man starts loudly taking out his personal frustrations with my gender out on me more than once, and it’s horrifying every time. Especially when I’m not great at confrontation and I’ve misplaced my quick witted friends. So with the tone and conviction he had behind his “women perpetuate assholes by continuing to choose assholes” argument, I was actually starting to feel kind that sick panicky feeling of “Oh god, I don’t know how to respond to this and I’m genuinely scared of how this is going to go” when you finally cut in to dryly summarize his point before waiving it off and that got the biggest belly laugh from me. Thank you for your calm, methodical approach. I watch your videos as much for the informational content as I do for the calm dry wit that you make them with.
@LiarJudas666
@LiarJudas666 Жыл бұрын
Shaun is an absolute treasure, I recommend him to everyone
@deliquescencemusic
@deliquescencemusic 3 жыл бұрын
He make women sound so transactional. He’s not used to being around actual people, or having friends, is he?
@mistressofstones
@mistressofstones 2 жыл бұрын
There are women like that in the world but they are the soulless female version of men like him. Then those men complain about being taken to court and have all their money taken away... they're the type of people who believe relationships are about an exchange of sex for money. Why wouldn't a woman who is the equivalent type of rotten person take her crappy husband she's sick of to court to extract the remaining money from him? After all, these people don't believe in love or compassion. I mostly financially supported my ex for over a decade whilst he got more and more abusive. When I left I lost almost everything. It was better to just get out of there and forget about objects. I miss those things but it wasn't worth having further contact with someone trying to gaslight me into thinking his abuse was him "looking after me". When these men talk about how all women only care about $$$ and sit around planning divorce and bankrupting their ex husbands I know what ilk of women they're talking about.... it isn't most women.
@akalion213
@akalion213 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair, grains are "slow carbs" so they take a while to topple empires.
@jonathansimmons4475
@jonathansimmons4475 4 жыл бұрын
Godamnit :-). Good one.
@toddharig8142
@toddharig8142 4 жыл бұрын
I recommend the Keto diet for all the up and coming empires out there, that shit will keep your state fit and healthy.
@moscanaveia
@moscanaveia 3 жыл бұрын
@@toddharig8142 Does it have soy though?
@toddharig8142
@toddharig8142 3 жыл бұрын
@@moscanaveia Well, seeing as soy turns men into fembois that will just accelerate the degradation.
@jacobford3452
@jacobford3452 3 жыл бұрын
@@toddharig8142 Femboys or a successful empire? Well, I know which one I'm choosing.
@GearyDigit
@GearyDigit 7 жыл бұрын
Notice how he never holds men accountable for any of their actions, but demands that women be held accountable for the actions of those men.
@albibastelle3547
@albibastelle3547 7 жыл бұрын
Geary Well he says some men are just evil....so we should simply accept the fact some men are just evil while holding women accountable for everything. Holding one gender to a higher standard is just fucking stupid.
@muukkeli
@muukkeli 7 жыл бұрын
+
@LibertyJava
@LibertyJava 7 жыл бұрын
last I checked society has no problem holding men accountable for their stupid shit...
@GearyDigit
@GearyDigit 7 жыл бұрын
Explain Trump
@radrtfgde9472
@radrtfgde9472 7 жыл бұрын
Geary Molyneux in his own words wants to hold women accountable for the actions of men. Isnt your comment directed at what Molyneux said? So, what is the other guy barking about?
@Dell88music
@Dell88music 2 жыл бұрын
"The golden age before the decline never existed" This quote just never stops being relevant, does it?
@Jekyllstein_Gray
@Jekyllstein_Gray 3 жыл бұрын
Now I'm just thinking about Diocletian yelling "MY CABBAGES!!!"
@EkinYildiran
@EkinYildiran 2 жыл бұрын
yay, I was also picturing him as the cabbage man from avatar
@user-qv2qf1jk5o
@user-qv2qf1jk5o 5 жыл бұрын
Anti-SJWs: Feminists read WAYY too much into things Also anti-SJWs: **make hours worth of videos about "the Alpha male" or other tribal/sexual-based misogyny whenever they watch a Disney movie** (Edit for typos)
@cossaizy6309
@cossaizy6309 5 жыл бұрын
When middle easter shitholes literally live word by word of their ideology; traditional? ✓ Misogynistic? ✓ Hyper-Nationalistic? ✓ Ethno-states? ✓ Homophobia? ✓ So why not convert to islam, learn arabic and fuck off to one of these countries hell surely like it
@saladcaesar7716
@saladcaesar7716 5 жыл бұрын
@@cossaizy6309 nO tHeY AWe nOT kWistIan
@cossaizy6309
@cossaizy6309 5 жыл бұрын
@@saladcaesar7716 lebanon is christian enough, plus islam is basically christianity 2.0
@kazaddum2448
@kazaddum2448 5 жыл бұрын
@@cossaizy6309 However they also hate brown people. So the migration option is out.
@cossaizy6309
@cossaizy6309 5 жыл бұрын
@@kazaddum2448 well is it too late to tell you most middle easterners are just tanned, cause you know, its fucking hot down there
@thatonestormtrooper2760
@thatonestormtrooper2760 5 жыл бұрын
It blows my mind that stefan simultaneously puts so much responsibility on women while also claiming that they shouldn't be allowed to have any responsibilities
@Saibellus
@Saibellus 4 жыл бұрын
but if women aren't simultaneously too stupid to be allowed and also responsible for all the most society impacting choices made today then some of the things wrong in my life might be MY fault, and that's unacceptable u.u
@Lafemmefutile
@Lafemmefutile 4 жыл бұрын
This right there has always made me laugh because of the transparent and illogical argument. We are watching the rationalization of a fragile mind.
@feonjun
@feonjun 4 жыл бұрын
The same goes his antagonistic opinion on "weak liberal men" or "soy boys" as well, yet he proudly coop the social, moral and scientific of such men.
@yeboscrebo4451
@yeboscrebo4451 4 жыл бұрын
Blame, not responsibility. Your play on words doesn’t fit
@profesordino
@profesordino 4 жыл бұрын
@@feonjun The Left are also all soy boys and weak low t bayta cucks but are also dangerous Antifa thugs that need to be imprisoned.
@samuelbarber6177
@samuelbarber6177 3 жыл бұрын
"Women only choose a holes." So how many women have been fawning over you, Stefan? Have to admit, during his long diatribe about abuse and criminalistics, I did smirk when he said 'Politicians'.
@damianbunner7420
@damianbunner7420 3 жыл бұрын
Regarding the grain dole; I can't fathom the mental hoops one must jump through to acknowledge that the influx of slavery caused a job shortage for farmers, and *still somehow* blame the welfare program enacted to combat a potential revolt as the reason for an economic crash and NOT the slave trade that started it all to begin with.
@katekursive1370
@katekursive1370 5 жыл бұрын
He worked at a daycare? The most disturbing thing I learned from all this.
@cossaizy6309
@cossaizy6309 5 жыл бұрын
Daycare if pretty alpha, most well know tribal leaders and champions worked at daycare
@cossaizy6309
@cossaizy6309 5 жыл бұрын
@[A]ddiction he has a daughter, my heart shakes
@mrnonsense1031
@mrnonsense1031 5 жыл бұрын
I really hope he was just the janitor.
@EmeraldLavigne
@EmeraldLavigne 5 жыл бұрын
In the one about The Force Awakens, he said he has a daughter - that's truly disturbing & worrying...
@no_peace
@no_peace 4 жыл бұрын
He reminds me of the old music teacher at the school i used to work at He traumatized kids every day and we couldn't do anything to get rid of him
@justabitofamug6989
@justabitofamug6989 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao he picked a point in history where slavery was rampant as the happiest overall time for the human race. Yeah, except for all the SLAVES
@allnaturalfigjam310
@allnaturalfigjam310 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but you see it's very clever, if you just don't consider slaves human, hey presto everyone's happy
@j.kaimori3848
@j.kaimori3848 3 жыл бұрын
@Sigurd Blergh Blergh if you work really well as a slave, they might let you retire before you die.
@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa9068
@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa9068 2 жыл бұрын
@@j.kaimori3848 Yay! that's so much better
@raphaelmt1706
@raphaelmt1706 2 жыл бұрын
Slaves don't count as people though, everyone knows that.
@Loots1
@Loots1 Жыл бұрын
Has there ever been a time without slavery?
@ahuggingsam
@ahuggingsam 4 жыл бұрын
Romney: "these people believe they are entitled to health-care, to food, to housing..." me: ".... yes... yes they are..."
@thunderbird3304
@thunderbird3304 2 жыл бұрын
Mitt Romney: Damn those people! Not wanting to be sick, starving, and homeless! How selfish!
@radiationshepherd
@radiationshepherd 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad there are people making videos debunking this area of conspiracy theory, really messed up my mental health getting exposed to this type of thought as a young girl
@RenneAtha
@RenneAtha 2 жыл бұрын
Wish I didn't relate, but I do. Full on had existential crises thinking I would peak at 19 and society wouldn't value me if I wasn't fertile, like what the actual f
@armykat123
@armykat123 5 жыл бұрын
"Women choose ASSholes over NICE guys, like ME! I'M a nice GUY! Can't you TELL. by the way I randomly EMPHASIZE. random. WORDS?"
@ohno5559
@ohno5559 4 жыл бұрын
I sleep soundly at night knowing how many women have out-achieved Stefan Molyneux in every way
@JFRAMEUSA
@JFRAMEUSA 3 жыл бұрын
By sleeping around with douchebag guys?
@ohno5559
@ohno5559 3 жыл бұрын
@@JFRAMEUSA yes Among other things. Out achieving him is not hard.
@Stret173
@Stret173 3 жыл бұрын
tru dat
@JFRAMEUSA
@JFRAMEUSA 3 жыл бұрын
@@ohno5559 Don't be jealous because he is smarter than you.
@ohno5559
@ohno5559 3 жыл бұрын
@@JFRAMEUSA is this a bit
@MarkSoupial
@MarkSoupial 2 жыл бұрын
If your empire falls at the slightest instance of internal criticism, it's probably not an empire that deserves to be an empire.
@theunkownape445
@theunkownape445 3 жыл бұрын
Sing with Stefan: 4:45 there's no need to feel down I said, 4:45, pick yourself off the ground I said, 4:45, 'cause you're in a new town There's no need to be unhappy
@maryanne1830
@maryanne1830 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, that made me laugh
@munstify
@munstify 11 ай бұрын
OMG😂
@irenedusink2670
@irenedusink2670 5 жыл бұрын
Stefan Molyneux sounds like a student trying to wing a presentation he clearly didn't prepare
@cosmodeus1720
@cosmodeus1720 4 жыл бұрын
Also like a student, he also plagiarized an author and passed it off as his own idea.
@GHOSTbirdnatureLOVER
@GHOSTbirdnatureLOVER 4 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, I just posted a nearly identical comment to this before I saw yours...
@kj_H65f
@kj_H65f 4 жыл бұрын
This is it. I couldn't figure out what he was trying to communicate because it was almost a stream-of-consciousness type speech.
@wimvanleuven8992
@wimvanleuven8992 4 жыл бұрын
He did put words on some slides, though...
@dracorex426
@dracorex426 4 жыл бұрын
Stefan: I used to work at a daycare. Stefan: Most people who worked at daycares aren't valuable to society.
@Clawdragoons
@Clawdragoons 3 жыл бұрын
That's called providing evidence for your claims.
@ebrelus7687
@ebrelus7687 3 жыл бұрын
This was actually a good one :) But still most means many but not all. You may check in dictionary if you dont believe.
@iggykidd
@iggykidd 2 жыл бұрын
By “most” I guess he meant everyone except him. Like most stupid assholes, he can only see himself as an exception, because otherwise he might have to gain some self-awareness
@Gingersnaps_the_pumpkin_kitty
@Gingersnaps_the_pumpkin_kitty 2 жыл бұрын
@@ebrelus7687 seriously troll harder.
@elinewww
@elinewww Жыл бұрын
Funny thing is, the labor market in my country is currently being severely limited because there aren't enough people working in daycares, making parents unable to work full time. Turns out they're pretty valuable after all huh
@That_Montage_Nerd
@That_Montage_Nerd 3 жыл бұрын
Stefan: “Don’t make babies with assholes!” Women: “lol ok.” Stefan: “No wait! Rome!”
@raphaelmt1706
@raphaelmt1706 2 жыл бұрын
I laughed a lot.
@Kottkumgen
@Kottkumgen Жыл бұрын
the "lol ok" is never going to get old
@petkragh
@petkragh 3 жыл бұрын
Stefan has the charisma of a guy who leads team building exercises at a corporate retreat
@waytoobiased
@waytoobiased 10 ай бұрын
I haven’t heard this line before, but it’s really good
@petkragh
@petkragh 5 ай бұрын
​@@waytoobiasedWoah woah woah, not copypasta. Original work ™️
@solidmayro
@solidmayro 5 ай бұрын
alright team were going to go around the circle and tell the room 1 fun fact about ourselves and our favorite factor in romes downfall
@timborowiec
@timborowiec 4 жыл бұрын
"The most recent Republican President, George W. Bush..." ah, what a time.
@vfaulkon
@vfaulkon 3 жыл бұрын
You almost miss it, don't you. ^_^
@phoenixschallert2720
@phoenixschallert2720 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking this exact thing when that came up. ah, the good old days
@john-paulhunt2604
@john-paulhunt2604 2 жыл бұрын
iu dont care about the money guys. i will never vote for a king or a queen for the us president. wrex supporters.
@LearningDrummerSam
@LearningDrummerSam 2 жыл бұрын
Only a month after this until that changed, what a time indeed
@loglorn
@loglorn 2 жыл бұрын
I had to quadruple take when i heard that
@ggmm2480
@ggmm2480 5 жыл бұрын
27:35 Karen took the kids, half my money and the western half of the Roman empire. It all makes sense
@midnight3946
@midnight3946 3 жыл бұрын
This is it. This is the best comment
@charlieputzel7735
@charlieputzel7735 2 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, man. She took the half that's gonna be worthless real quick. Trust me, your half will last much longer.
@elise205
@elise205 2 жыл бұрын
The last bit about being descended from heroes who fought for freedoms had me thinking "yea, I was, but not the ones you think, Stefan." For context my Great Grandad was part of the union strikes when Thatcher closed the mines. I look up to him as a hero of the working class, even though he did not succeed. He fought for his class and his kind. I'm certain that he wasn't the first union member in my family either, and I can safely tell you he's not the last.
@Vizivirag
@Vizivirag 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a historian and those snippets are causing me actual pain. Last time I've seen such warped worldview it was the rambling of middle-school aged children.
@shingshongshamalama
@shingshongshamalama 6 жыл бұрын
Why does so much of the alt-right boil down to "women won't bang me and that's evil!"
@lichesbrew
@lichesbrew 5 жыл бұрын
@Ace Saylor Well the first one is true actually
@Flantomas
@Flantomas 5 жыл бұрын
@Ace Saylor incel detected!
@Flantomas
@Flantomas 5 жыл бұрын
@Ace Saylor and that is usually a good thing.
@Flantomas
@Flantomas 5 жыл бұрын
@Ace Saylor sure it is, you should have grown out of it by the time you are old enough to vote.
@Flantomas
@Flantomas 5 жыл бұрын
@Ace Saylor actually, yes, you should have grown out of it by now
@quitpayload4874
@quitpayload4874 5 жыл бұрын
"I worked in a daycare" - Stefan Molyneux Those poor kids.
@liberalbias4462
@liberalbias4462 4 жыл бұрын
Someone find those kids and give them mental help.
@rowan-priince1860
@rowan-priince1860 4 жыл бұрын
I froze in horror at that line.
@DrJReefer
@DrJReefer 4 жыл бұрын
As a cleaner.
@thescrimble
@thescrimble 4 жыл бұрын
Facts
@usualunusualkid7149
@usualunusualkid7149 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully they weren't shown Frozen with him
@enaidealukal4105
@enaidealukal4105 3 жыл бұрын
wow that rant about "holding women accountable" for "choosing assholes" was... 100% fucking insane
@DaysieRose
@DaysieRose 2 жыл бұрын
I just had the thought "I've never felt so hated by someone I've never met" and realized how privileged I am
@sovietcharity
@sovietcharity 5 жыл бұрын
"Your ancestors fought hard to extend your freedoms" my grandpas were both nazi paratroopers
@Clawdragoons
@Clawdragoons 3 жыл бұрын
Those are exactly the sorts of ancestors he most wants to idolize.
@grantdixon9421
@grantdixon9421 3 жыл бұрын
Ouch.
@anelkia27
@anelkia27 3 жыл бұрын
Oof
@beancheesedip8337
@beancheesedip8337 3 жыл бұрын
That's a real oopsie doodle right there, chief.
@cedardrake9983
@cedardrake9983 3 жыл бұрын
F
@somed214
@somed214 7 жыл бұрын
28:30 The apparent fact that Molyneux once worked in a daycare is probably the most terrifying thing he's said.
@igodinoel
@igodinoel 7 жыл бұрын
Lol true.
@local-teen
@local-teen 7 жыл бұрын
Yeahh. I bet those kids know that they are descended from heroes, though.
@patched8789
@patched8789 7 жыл бұрын
somed214 Molyneaux lies about his past a lot, he's stated that he worked in a lot of careers
@AnnDVine
@AnnDVine 7 жыл бұрын
I thought he said he's BEEN in daycares, not he's WORKED in daycares.
@vagrantlynx3126
@vagrantlynx3126 7 жыл бұрын
He probably got inspired by the Ayn Rand School for Tots.
@madmaxim3965
@madmaxim3965 2 жыл бұрын
Stephan mulineux is the epitome of "Tell me woman won't have sex with you without telling me woman won't have sex with you"
@spinecho609
@spinecho609 Жыл бұрын
He has a wife and daughter 😬
@elipticalecliptic481
@elipticalecliptic481 Жыл бұрын
@@spinecho609 how does he sound like this then; he's not even involuntarily celibate, just that much of misogynist
@nanibgalthelinguophile
@nanibgalthelinguophile 3 жыл бұрын
Remember when this came out and Shaun said "Imagine...President Trump comes to office" and it was a joke...?
@bugsephbunnin4576
@bugsephbunnin4576 4 жыл бұрын
Roman Empire: economically based on slavery. Molyneux : Well that's freedom.
@tompatterson1548
@tompatterson1548 3 жыл бұрын
Freedom to have someone else solve your problems
@Thecrownswill
@Thecrownswill 3 жыл бұрын
The concept of economics hadn't been invented yet.
@alexscriabin
@alexscriabin 3 жыл бұрын
@MustafSeye me: the earth has been geologically active for £4,000,000,000 years you: uh, no it hasn't, geology hadn't been invented yet.
@Thecrownswill
@Thecrownswill 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexscriabin 4,000,000,000... Pounds? And I didn't mention geology.
@ryanjapan3113
@ryanjapan3113 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexscriabin why did you use the euro symbol?
@KUKAKYOTOTOKYO
@KUKAKYOTOTOKYO 7 жыл бұрын
28:27 "I worked in a daycare and there was some nice people there, but a lot of them are kinda like minimum wage people, and so on. They would be the least economically productive or valuable people to have raise your children." I worked in a daycare and there were some nice people, but one guy was kinda like a moronic bigot who had this youtube channel, and so on. He would be the least economically productive or valuable person to have raise your children.
@matthewmacdonaldchannel1
@matthewmacdonaldchannel1 5 жыл бұрын
KUKAKYOTOTOKYO - Thank you for this. I was shocked by how enraged I felt when he said that. Such a caring, big-hearted way to describe your coworkers, who are providing a vital, foundational service for small children. Stefan has the empathy of a hammerhead shark.
@wrendemartino-smith446
@wrendemartino-smith446 5 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Shaun mostly held back from commenting on such an insanely moronic statement. It's like he thinks being poor is a disease that you catch from being around other poors. Plus billionaires would be like the worst daycare workers I can imagine like holy shit lol
@jorgeluz9560
@jorgeluz9560 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewmacdonaldchannel1 I resent that. I love sharks and they have much more empathy than Stefan Molyneux.
@thomaspissenlit6623
@thomaspissenlit6623 3 жыл бұрын
Gladiators rarely died in combat in the coliseum. They were very expensive to train, feed, equip etc. They were like wrestlers today. Sometimes there were battle to death but they were not very popular and very expensive for the organisators
@MrTombombodil
@MrTombombodil Жыл бұрын
Hearing Shaun say "Says" is an entire row on my hierarchy of needs.
@0ld_Scratch
@0ld_Scratch 6 жыл бұрын
Stefan watches Winnie-the-Pooh... "Men need to secure Women for their tribe!"
@willdenham
@willdenham 5 жыл бұрын
I could see him prison style raping that bear.
@apophis7712
@apophis7712 5 жыл бұрын
@@willdenham How dare you create such imagery?!
@willdenham
@willdenham 5 жыл бұрын
@@apophis7712 I know, reading again today I surprised myself. It's a little too much, and Eyore, Piglet and Tigger would have to watch. Hell he'd probably go after Christopher Robin next, just out of blood lust, and to show them who's runnin' shit now.
@matthewmacdonaldchannel1
@matthewmacdonaldchannel1 5 жыл бұрын
Neo Narcoleptic - Quite possibly my favorite comment in this whole comment section. I raise a glass of Nightmare Fuel to you.
@robertmitchell8630
@robertmitchell8630 5 жыл бұрын
Our white women are mixing
@TracesOflnk
@TracesOflnk 6 жыл бұрын
It's always so satisfying when the ranting lunatic finally says it's all because women won't date him. It's like playing bingo.
@Grayfox01
@Grayfox01 5 жыл бұрын
Blankout when they go on a rampage.
@boiyado6717
@boiyado6717 5 жыл бұрын
@Youcef B I agree with it being the alt right, but c'mon, lumping in gamers with that. Usually it's the conservatives who are against video games.
@Knightmessenger
@Knightmessenger 4 жыл бұрын
I dont get why anybody likes him. I found him boring and long winded like a class you could fall asleep in, long before I saw excerpts of his that were problematic.
@TheKelsee11
@TheKelsee11 3 жыл бұрын
"Their children are forced to grow up POOR and fatherless." Me: *A middle class daughter of a single mother whose friend's full two-parent household had to move because they couldn't afford to keep living in our neighborhood.*
@ebrelus7687
@ebrelus7687 3 жыл бұрын
You aren't black right? Ever heard about exception proves the rule? We generalise. BTW did you mother get benefits 7 state help? How much did she earn herself? :P
@GokoArkham
@GokoArkham 3 жыл бұрын
@@ebrelus7687 "Exception proves the rule" is one of the laziest and more stupid idoms ever created. Tbh.
@ToxicJelly9
@ToxicJelly9 3 ай бұрын
I mean, on average a family with a singular income will have less money than a family with two incomes, regardless of anecdotal evidence 🤷
@nessa-parmentier
@nessa-parmentier Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I laughed hard when he talked about the "nice guys vs assholes" thing without a HINT of irony. The failure of the most basic introspection here is... incredible.
@PandinusRex
@PandinusRex 6 жыл бұрын
If women started to choose only "nice" guys, Stefan definitely wouldn't be one of them...
@irishdc9523
@irishdc9523 6 жыл бұрын
PandinusRex If women chose only "nice" guys, Stefan would complain that male masculinity is being replaced by effeminate degenerating weakling feminists.
@aria5614
@aria5614 5 жыл бұрын
Even then, sometimes "nice" guys can turn out to actually be possessive A-holes. A good example is Titan from Megamind.
@ILikedGooglePlus
@ILikedGooglePlus 5 жыл бұрын
@@aria5614 I fucking love your audacity to use Titan from Megamind as an example of anything
@willdenham
@willdenham 5 жыл бұрын
PandinusRex, Good point.
@Rissa_1322
@Rissa_1322 5 жыл бұрын
No, he would, but only because you used quotation marks
@deutschbagnl
@deutschbagnl 5 жыл бұрын
When Molyneux began saying "Young men...", I was braced for the world's worst cover of "YMCA", and I wasn't disappointed.
@joeybaseballs3239
@joeybaseballs3239 5 жыл бұрын
deutschbagnl 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ryanotte6737
@ryanotte6737 5 жыл бұрын
Young men... we need a Western society. I said, young men... you can put your mind at ease. I said, young men... we're gonna make a traditional ethno state And I say women... won't... give... me... a date... ba, da, ba, da... it's fun to stay at the ole' KKK! the ole' KKK...
@Ubermensch9240
@Ubermensch9240 4 жыл бұрын
@@ryanotte6737 Eeeeeeeehhhhhhh, needs work.
@grantcambron3597
@grantcambron3597 4 жыл бұрын
Artie Rupinen How about this? Young man... we need a western regime i said young man... our world just needs to be cleaned i said young man... put blame on minorities We can end this marxist grand plan It’s fun to bully the L-E-F-T It’s fun to bully the L-E-F-T
@jurtra9090
@jurtra9090 4 жыл бұрын
@@grantcambron3597 hahahahahahahahahahahaha Thanks for making me laugh
@theteddy906
@theteddy906 4 жыл бұрын
“Hold women accountable for choosing assholes.” How about hold assholes accountable for being assholes so the women don’t have any to choose from?
@aleka..
@aleka.. 4 жыл бұрын
why go for simpler solution, when you can blame women 🤷🏻
@xxxxxx-kk7mh
@xxxxxx-kk7mh 4 жыл бұрын
Both are wrong tbh
@Zozette27
@Zozette27 Жыл бұрын
At one stage Stefan says that taxes were too high because of the grain dole but later he says that Romans only had to work for 2 days a year to cover their taxes. As Shaun points out, Stefan doesn’t even realises when he contradicts himself.
@secundox4660
@secundox4660 5 жыл бұрын
Stefan's default tone has a strong, unending aura of "GOTCHA!" like he thinks he's throwing down some sick, unpopular truths and refuses to be silenced, and honestly that's like the third most insufferable part of him, besides the sexism and racism.
@ChrisMaxfieldActs
@ChrisMaxfieldActs 5 жыл бұрын
Succinctly stated. Bravo. Or Brava.
@Effect_FX
@Effect_FX 5 жыл бұрын
@BLAIR M Schirmer Watch the video.
@IamMissPronounced
@IamMissPronounced 5 жыл бұрын
You summed him up perfectly
@outlawJosieFox
@outlawJosieFox 5 жыл бұрын
Insufferable is the exact word I was thinking of even before I read your comment. It's the correct word for this awful man
@Kushufy
@Kushufy 5 жыл бұрын
@BLAIR M Schirmer Do you actually need people to literally say "I hate women" to know they're sexist? Are you that socially incompetent?
@user-qv2qf1jk5o
@user-qv2qf1jk5o 5 жыл бұрын
1. Hamilton hasn't been written yet 2. Hamilton becomes a wild success 3. Alabama places higher restrictions on abortions Coincidence? If I say it's not with a calm, smart-sounding tone, it's not
@calebwheeler8143
@calebwheeler8143 3 жыл бұрын
Shaun comments sections are so witty they're *always* worth a look.
@Razmatini
@Razmatini 3 жыл бұрын
this guy has a wife and a daughter... i feel so sorry for them both
@maxmarquez2322
@maxmarquez2322 2 жыл бұрын
@Luck Genuine Lightning literally the same asshole argument he made dude cmon
@BinturongGirl
@BinturongGirl 2 жыл бұрын
I was raised by a single mum. My dad vanished when I was 9 and never paid a penny. Which is apparently all my mum's fault for marrying an arsehole, but not my dad's fault for actually being an arsehole? And I'm a single mum, who has an amicable relationship with my ex and we ensure our son is supported financially and emotionally by us both. To whom would this guy give the credit? Me for choosing a decent father for my child (even though it didn't work out for the marriage) or my ex for being a decent father? I'm guessing my ex would get the credit, but I would still get some blame.
@StygianZinogrex
@StygianZinogrex 2 жыл бұрын
It's as if Stefan doesnt know people have many faces that change depending on the person! Obviously a dude is an asshole since the start!
@JoshuaWillis89
@JoshuaWillis89 4 жыл бұрын
“Minimum-wage people” has got to be one of the most dehumanizing expressions ever.
@qbertq1
@qbertq1 3 жыл бұрын
It's another side of the "Welfare Queen" label
@felixmoore6781
@felixmoore6781 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, it's not like the word "people" has anything to do with humanity. Grouping people always inevitably involves some degree of impersonalization.
@nikkialkema1032
@nikkialkema1032 Жыл бұрын
@@felixmoore6781 He said that they have the least amount of value in all of society implying that how much money and wealth you have determons (not native English sorry) how much you are worth as a person.
@kieleleron85768
@kieleleron85768 6 жыл бұрын
I think the most disturbing thing in this video is the idea that Stephan Molyneux worked at at daycare! The idea of him spewing his women hating nonsense at toddlers gives me the shivers
@PanAndScanBuddy
@PanAndScanBuddy 5 жыл бұрын
What should scare you more is that he probably didn't, and appears normal in his everyday life. That's the problem with hateful ideology - it takes root wherever it can, sometimes in the unlikely, friendly guy. I've had people who seemed decent but revealed very shitty beliefs later on, and were probably equally surprised I was an "SJW".
@djdusted6485
@djdusted6485 5 жыл бұрын
jbaz77777 if you want to know who rules over you, find out who you cannot criticise. Second wave feminism fuck the west but if you tell anyone you will get slaughtered and yet feminism is a minority ideology but somehow ingrained it’s self in to everybody’s way of thinking! A little like cancer.
@aglazeddonut6635
@aglazeddonut6635 5 жыл бұрын
​@@djdusted6485 oh hey, found the real cancer.
@namjoonssexybrain1679
@namjoonssexybrain1679 5 жыл бұрын
jbaz77777 Found the incel.
@benpasko
@benpasko 5 жыл бұрын
@Long duk dong Five seconds after some dingus thought of the term. "You want social justice, and I think this is a bad thing."
@curiouser-curiouser
@curiouser-curiouser Жыл бұрын
“You are descended from heroes” uhhhhhh my great-great-grandpa was a slave owner. Spin that one.
@citationneeded8181
@citationneeded8181 4 жыл бұрын
How did you manage to watch so much of him for this? Every time he speaks I feel my blood pressure rising and it's only your peaceful interjections that prevented me having a heart attack...
@annaolson4828
@annaolson4828 7 жыл бұрын
The "women only date assholes" rant was head-scratching for me. In fact, that view in general baffles me, because the people behind it so rarely define what they mean by assholes and their opposite. For example, I would define Stefan Molyneux, who doesn't read or understand his sources, and generally blames women for the complex and varied instances of child abuse, as an asshole, but I doubt he would agree with that definition.
@annaolson4828
@annaolson4828 7 жыл бұрын
Also is assholery genetic? I don't know.
@SmokeDogNY420
@SmokeDogNY420 7 жыл бұрын
women generally lack the ability to differentiate between confidence in a man and mistreatment from a man....thus the problem persists
@caitlinerickson7355
@caitlinerickson7355 6 жыл бұрын
Anna Olson he also basically implies that the only reason a relationship could end is if one of the people involved is a bad person, which is a massively simplified view of relationships.
@ItWasSaucerShaped
@ItWasSaucerShaped 6 жыл бұрын
Asshole = anyone a woman chooses over Stefan. Also - and I'm just guessing - it sounds like Stefan really hates his mom & dad? Maybe his dad was totally a legit, abusive asshole. Shit is Freudian as all fuck.
@irishdc9523
@irishdc9523 6 жыл бұрын
Anna Olson If I could guess (and that's if they're being serious about it), it's reviving old arguments for eugenics. At the turn of the century, many intellectuals were supportive of eugenics to purify the bloodlines. At worst, it was the Nazis, but I doubt he's going that far. The "liberal" form of eugenics believed that criminality was genetic, so the belief was sterilizing habitual criminals would bring the crime rate down.
@weldin
@weldin 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine someone robs Stephan’s house, and we all just respond to him, “why’d you pick a house that could be robbed? You’re causing the decline of western civilization!”
@lolcakekakelol
@lolcakekakelol 2 ай бұрын
He would identify a time of rampant slavery, almost perpetual war (as far as i know), a time of very unsophisticated healthcare, as THE BEST TIME to live in.. why? Low taxes. The logic of some libertarians is fucking wild.
@ethanglasgow7612
@ethanglasgow7612 2 ай бұрын
Holy shit was not expecting the absolute “nice guy” manifesto (23:30) in a video about the fall of Rome. It sounds like something you’d hear from a 13-year-old who got rejected at prom
@thefool3130
@thefool3130 5 жыл бұрын
That whole bit about descendants of “pilgrim fathers” in New York bit at 21:48 pisses me off so much. Mostly because I am actually descended from some of the first founders of New York (back when it was New Amsterdam) and hearing someone just straight up pretend my ancestors were pilgrims is just....so annoying? They were Dutch, Stefan!! They were from the Netherlands! I know Europe is just one homogenous hodgepodge to you but it sure as hell wasnt to the people of New Netherland.
@NIHIL_EGO
@NIHIL_EGO 4 жыл бұрын
@Robert Bonneau Wouldn't have happen if they drank Sailor Moon instead !
@tompatterson1548
@tompatterson1548 3 жыл бұрын
So you speak Dutch? If not, you should try learning Nederlandisch
@skore9975
@skore9975 3 жыл бұрын
Go back to Europe, colonizer
@lavrentivs9891
@lavrentivs9891 3 жыл бұрын
But the dutch took some of those areas from Sweden!
@ebrelus7687
@ebrelus7687 3 жыл бұрын
So the Dutch weren't religious?
@Supadubya
@Supadubya 5 жыл бұрын
10:30 on, Shaun you miss a really golden opportunity here. Most of the urban poor in Rome actually HAD jobs- they worked in cottage industries, manufacturies for the Army (making shields, armour, weapons- typically on an industrial scsle), in the ports, as sailors, as chefs for the rich, cleaning and maintaining infrastructure, as watchmen keeping the streets safe, in early factories (such as in the perfume industry of the Late Empire- which started to approach industrial scale and, a long with early machinery, might have led to an Industrial Revolution if the Western Empire had lasted a few centuries longer) etc. In short, they were NOT unemployed- but simply didn't make enough money in their jobs to make ends meet- partly due to the rich extracting heavy rents from them and the workshops they worked for, partly due to the relative lack of technological sophistication of Roman industry compared to today (although it was far more advanced than most of the world for centuries to come). In short, these were mostly WORKING POOR, not unemployed- although much like today, Roman writers choose to focus most on the unemployed...
@DCdabest
@DCdabest 5 жыл бұрын
"Darn Plebs. Getvs a jobvs!"
@zackidoozacoou3164
@zackidoozacoou3164 3 жыл бұрын
Could u give me a reference or a book that talk about roman mass industry ?
@raphaelmt1706
@raphaelmt1706 2 жыл бұрын
Are you saying that some people are working but don't pay taxes because their surplus value is being extracted by property owners? That's preposterous!
@Supadubya
@Supadubya 2 жыл бұрын
@@raphaelmt1706 that's sarcasm, right? (Seems like it, but on the internet can never be sure...) Basically, yes. The landowners in Rome owed all their rental income from tenements for the poor to the value those workers produced in their various jobs. A worker's value (the value of what they produce) doesn't become less just because, through inequalities of social and economic power, they are paid less. Rome had a massive class or impoverished urban menial laborers who kept the workshops and proto-factories of the city running.
@raphaelmt1706
@raphaelmt1706 2 жыл бұрын
@@Supadubya XD of course it's sarcasm
@bezdomnyj82v2
@bezdomnyj82v2 3 жыл бұрын
being an Italian, grown and educated by a public educational system that provides young students with basic understanding of roman history even at lower ages - I'm quite triggered at the way Stefan Molyneux is pronouncing Augustus
@muhammadeisa1459
@muhammadeisa1459 Жыл бұрын
A-oo-goos-toos
@SinHurr
@SinHurr 10 ай бұрын
All I can think of is "Augustus Goop" from Willy Wonka
@mdaddy775
@mdaddy775 4 жыл бұрын
23:45 Why didn't Stefan say: "Men should stop being assholes" Hmm
@a.j8307
@a.j8307 6 жыл бұрын
Women "choosing" assholes for partners is a myth that needs to die. I won't lie, I thought the same thing when I was in high school and I resented girls for seemingly skipping over me to date unlikable jerks. Apparently Stefan didn't learn that relationships are more complex than that after leaving 12th grade.. Just the idea of being angry at a woman who is trapped in an abusive relationship (with someone who could have been a totally different person when they met), and "holding her accountable" is pretty terrible.
@seelcudoom1
@seelcudoom1 6 жыл бұрын
ye people forget that 9 times out of 10, a woman dates an asshole, is because when they met, he wasent upfront about the fact hes an asshole, noone walks around and goes "do you want to go on a date with me an also i am a bastard who will beat our future children"
@MrsSanguisa
@MrsSanguisa 5 жыл бұрын
He can be glad. I don't choose assholes, so I wont choose him. Also hes the PERFECT EXAMPLE of a "nice guy". I realy want so slap his face softly with a brick over and over again.
@rednaxelA11
@rednaxelA11 5 жыл бұрын
Historians: Roman hegemony was a really interesting time in history which we can study to understand ancient civilisation, military strategy, politics, philosophy, historiography, engineering, social structures, empire building and collapse - its such a vast subject that historians have been studying since ancient times and will be studying far into the future. Molyneaux: Women are bad. Historians: huh?
@cosmodeus1720
@cosmodeus1720 4 жыл бұрын
How the hell do you get women being bad from the subject of the fall of the Roman Empire? If I were to offhandedly compare it to anything, I'd compare it to the fall of the Ancien Regime with its progressively distant aristocrats (and even that's not a great comparison).
@rednaxelA11
@rednaxelA11 4 жыл бұрын
that's a question you should put to molyneaux the faux intellectual. the ancien regime aristos couldnt see the wood for the trees, whether male or female, so i would have the same issue with that argument too. Though the AR & subsequent revolution was fascinating, so i'd be happy for any excuse to read into it again, just not a baseless argument that 'it's women's fault'.
@cosmodeus1720
@cosmodeus1720 4 жыл бұрын
@@rednaxelA11 I didn't mean that the French Revolution was the fault of women either, just that the fall of the Ancien Regime is more comparable to the fall of Roman Empire (which is a stretch, I admit). Apologies if that wasn't clear. BTW, Molyneaux is also a plagiarist in his Rome video.
@johnhudson5414
@johnhudson5414 Жыл бұрын
Shaun - thanks for your efforts mate, I have been binge-watching your videos and have shared many with friends and frenemies - you are the peer review channel of the fake academics of youtube - it is well needed.
@nenmaster5218
@nenmaster5218 Жыл бұрын
Then report said yt-channel? Seriously, if someone is that toxic AND has a channel on a plattform with a flag-option, why not?
@JoyKirbs
@JoyKirbs Жыл бұрын
@@nenmaster5218 excuse me?
@alexturlais8558
@alexturlais8558 3 жыл бұрын
How did he think his source was in any way accurate or useful? How do you read "well poor people can go to university now and that's the end of civilisation" and "women working as clerks and lead to foreign invasions" and think it's great historical literature?
@iansmith8783
@iansmith8783 5 жыл бұрын
"stefan molyneux's fall of rome" sounds like the title of a really complicated computer game.
@AppendixMIA
@AppendixMIA 5 жыл бұрын
Tom Clancy’s Why Won’t You Date Me Sarah
@SennaHawx
@SennaHawx 5 жыл бұрын
@@AppendixMIA Based on "Tommy Wiseau's You're tearing me apart, Lisa!"
@gaiusjuliuspleaser
@gaiusjuliuspleaser 5 жыл бұрын
Sid Meier's We Live In A Society IV
@danieltobin4498
@danieltobin4498 5 жыл бұрын
I wish..
@rolfs2165
@rolfs2165 4 жыл бұрын
@Ian Smith Yeah, I confused him with Peter Molyneux at first ...
@Shigawire
@Shigawire 5 жыл бұрын
It's so cringeworthy to watch... Stefan is so historically illiterate that I get embarrassed.
@paradisecityX0
@paradisecityX0 5 жыл бұрын
So are Atheist Activists and SJWs in general
@paradisecityX0
@paradisecityX0 4 жыл бұрын
@Samuel Wilson Atheist ACTIVISTS, not atheists in general
@boiyado6717
@boiyado6717 4 жыл бұрын
HistoryNET HaHaHa, you’re that guy who is a little annoying prick on atheist videos.
@Snardvark25
@Snardvark25 4 жыл бұрын
HistoryNET ya.. those huge groups. Every single one is cringeworthy. If you think in those terms you need to grow up
@paradisecityX0
@paradisecityX0 4 жыл бұрын
@@boiyado6717 Yep, I distrupt happy village-Atheist funtimes
@catarinaelodie318
@catarinaelodie318 10 ай бұрын
as soon as someone uses the phrase "sexual market place" you should stop listening to them
@JohnGardnerAlhadis
@JohnGardnerAlhadis 27 күн бұрын
Words to live by.
@clsisman
@clsisman 5 ай бұрын
The bit where you reveal he just nicked this whole argument from Sir John Glubb without bothering to understand it, it hits different after hbombergate 2023.
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