"She Didn't Take Any Responsibility For Her Actions!" Former Post Office Exec Refuses To Apologise

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Ай бұрын

A former top Post Office executive has refused to apologise for her role in the Horizon IT scandal, insisting: “I didn’t knowingly do anything wrong”.
Angela van den Bogerd began her evidence to the Post Office Horizon IT Inquiry by saying that she is “sorry for the devastation” wrought on subpostmasters and their families.
But when pressed by Inquiry counsel Jason Beer KC, Ms van den Bogerd insisted she had been unaware of critical flaws in the Post Office’s IT system.
“You make no concession or admission that you did anything wrong”, said Mr Beer.
Ms van den Bogerd replied: “I didn’t knowingly do anything wrong.”
TalkTV's Dr David Bull and Sarah Hewson are joined by journalist Nick Wallis to discuss.
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@marktronic9637 Ай бұрын

She’s so compromised and a complete liar. She needs her pension taking away for her part in all this, the locking up and the key throwing away

@DevilbyMoonlight Ай бұрын

people in high places all have this trait...

@tenkloosterherman Ай бұрын

In addition, clawback of all the bonuses she received over the period.

@blue_jay31 Ай бұрын

I so agree !

@blue_jay31 Ай бұрын

@@tenkloosterhermanfor sure !

@michaelmcginley7930 Ай бұрын

Even if proven shes a liar she will still get away with it

@user-hr1vu6qp8c Ай бұрын

She's lying all the way through her testimony. I'm American and don't know the UK justice system but she absolutely needs to be held accountable.

@mikewilson8513 Ай бұрын

This isn't a court of law, it's an official enquiry. (although witnesses have to swear on oath to tell the truth) The judiciary will be looking at this and decide where we go from here. Personally, i think heads will roll eventually. This is why she was playing dumb for most of the two days. If you are interested, the Paula Vennells appearance next month is going to be a must watch. (May 22nd) There is lots more mileage in this scandal to come. If its proven that these people lied in a court of law (they did, but it must be proven) over the prosecutions, they are in deep trouble.

@diannepenny407 Ай бұрын

@@mikewilson8513 They are indeed... Looking forward to seeing how PV tries to play this.

@mikewilson8513 Ай бұрын

@@diannepenny407 You are right. Its going to be interesting. It's going to be hard for her to follow Van Den Bogerd in playing dumb. She is very close to the top of the tree, so blaming others is not going to do it. Don't forget, Alan Bates will settle for nothing else but seeing heads roll. He has been like a dog with a bone for 20+ years, and is not going to let it go any time soon. I hope he gets a crowdfunding appeal going, so he/they can bring private prosecution, if it needs it. They have the country behind them. I have the utmost regard for him.

@Ken-ps9ux Ай бұрын

The arrogance of those who know they will never be held to account for their actions

@user-hr1vu6qp8c Ай бұрын

@@mikewilson8513 Thank you for explaining it. I hope all turns out well for the victims. I've been watching the 4 part series on PBS and will watch the Real Story documentary this weekend. This should have never happened to anyone.

@hovishill2779 Ай бұрын

“She didn’t take any responsibility” but she took the MONEY !

@bwghall1 Ай бұрын

and a man took his life.!!!

@robertmcbride1859 Ай бұрын

A truly loathsome woman and I hope she stands trial at some point. I cannot understand how she was ever promoted into such high office in the Post Office? She comes across as totally incompetent to me.

@marktronic9637 Ай бұрын

Hopefully she will be charged with perverting the course of justice and get a taste of what she dished out to the SPMs as a result of her covering up and lies under oath

@williamlyons3261 Ай бұрын

She was promoted for towing the line this is what is going on in all business these days why do you think civil service nhs and all the privatise companies and councils are so poorly run and bankrupt

@markwalker4142 Ай бұрын

Nepotism. 🤷‍♂️

@patpending8134 Ай бұрын

? No family connections at all here.

@patpending8134 Ай бұрын

Civil Servant here. I have seen with my own eyes the decline in the Civil Service over the last 20 yeasr or so. It's staggering how the people who have elbowed the way to the senior positions are just so self-serving and socioparthic. They give talks about their "career journey", i.e how they climbed the greasy pole and are so brilliant, in which they lay bare that they just moved from job to job and hopped from different Civil Service departments on their rise. They have no expertise in anything at all, other than in getting themselves promoted. If someone was needed to close an office and effectively make long-serving loyal staff redundant, these are the characters that happily volunteer to do it (and later use it as an example in their promotion applications in support of how they are brilliant at making difficult decisions). I've even imagined that if it was decided that 10% f people had to be exterminated, these ar ethe people who would happily draw up lists and get it done. I've even come across a few people who I concluded were stratight up psycopaths.

@craigshackleton1652 Ай бұрын

The sooner she faces criminal charges the better. Her partner in crime Vennels needs to be charged too.

@michaelmcginley7930 Ай бұрын

No one is goingbto jail they do deserve to but it won't happen

@jamesgreen807 5 күн бұрын

@@michaelmcginley7930"WE" can ALL LIVE IN THAT IT WILL HAPPEN!!!!!

@gerardhampson9089 Ай бұрын

She can't remember the emails!!!? lies, and more lies . She needs to go to jail.

@user-pq9hn5cm6h Ай бұрын

Put her in prison

@alexhamilton4368 Ай бұрын

Cannot understand why she hasn’t been arrested..???

@kathykay9920 Ай бұрын

Prison prison prison

@blue_jay31 Ай бұрын

Yes please !

@user-sb6ij3kp6q Ай бұрын

Nick Wallace deserves formal recognition for his tireless work to uncover the Post Office's staffs intentional obstruction, consealing the truth about their egregious actions over so many years. Thank you sir!

@Mikados_Advark12 Ай бұрын

Oh stop grovelling

@diane4488 Ай бұрын

I agree. 👍🏻

@helenjob Ай бұрын

Praise due to those who called this out. Look at the computer weekly articles. It's like a complete history of this sorry affair.

@hedgehog1965uk Ай бұрын

It's "Wallis", but yes I agree. I loved his 18 hour long audiobook on the whole affair and have listened to every podcast episode he has done. I hope to meet him in Guildford on 15 May, and also Seema Misra (the SPM who was sent to prison when pregnant).

@anthonyshiach5049 Ай бұрын

Why are lawyers not telling these people they are lying under oath, and going in hard on them!!!

@JonDingle Ай бұрын

Because it is an inquiry and they all piss in each others pocket. So many times I have watched lawyers off the hook during this case, its not much of an "inquiry".

@anthonyporter3147 Ай бұрын

Because they are part of this countries institutions that keep the ordinary people down .These poor people will never get the truth.

@PedalForward Ай бұрын

This afternoon (Friday) one of the lawyers, Edward Henry KC, did accuse her of lying. There’s a video clip of this - he didn’t hold back.

@jamesgreen807 5 күн бұрын

Oath means NOTHING TOO THEM!!!!!

@jilllawton8556 Ай бұрын

Paula Vennels. Remember the old ‘fire and brimstone’ people of the cloth. No compassion whatsoever.

@breaghboo-gc7ub Ай бұрын

But they didn't need compassion. They needed the truth.

@jaybe2908 Ай бұрын

@@breaghboo-gc7ub They knew the truth, but it was more convenient for them to ignore it

@OutRAjious Ай бұрын

I was aware of it a decade ago, and I don’t work for the post office … she’s a lair , a criminal, she HAS to go to Jail

@neilwells-west7845 Ай бұрын

Hundreds of innocent people's lives utterly destroyed but its no-ones fault.

@Royboy50 Ай бұрын

There never is anyone to blame when the obvious culprit is the government and its aliases,they collectively disown any knowledge of anything pertaining to the case .they know full well they are to blame but hide behind ignorance,you try that one and they will claim ignorance of the law is no excuse

@Mikados_Advark12 Ай бұрын

Utterly untrue. It was someone’s fault. Stop standing up for the Post Office.

@Royboy50 Ай бұрын

@@Mikados_Advark12 obviously you don’t do irony,or even sarcasm is lost on you ,Neil wells comment is sarcasm ,of course it’s someone at fault this goes to the top of government it’s their company a government quango run by a corrupt board headed by venells and others

@childofthe50s53 Ай бұрын

It is an ironic statement, not a defence of the PO.

@christophercherrington7550 Ай бұрын

A total liar, without any credibility whatsoever. Well done for the KC's who didn't mince any words on her. If anyone deserves to be held criminally accountable over this, she does.

@OutRAjious Ай бұрын

She’s sorry she got CAUGHT!

@geoffobrien1783 Ай бұрын

YES !!! I am staggered at the arrogance and 'pushback' attitude of all of them, no contrition and when some try you can see it is through gritted teeth

@gherkamum Ай бұрын

They know it was all wrong but did nothing, Fake apologies, still no empathy or shame…..They all look guilty…..All covering their own backs….Prison

@alridd7038 Ай бұрын

Won’t be there backs they’re covering if the go to jail 😂

@childofthe50s53 Ай бұрын

WHEN they go to jail, not if

@patpending8134 Ай бұрын

their

@patpending8134 Ай бұрын

Some proper punctuation please.

@v12ngt Ай бұрын

She is currently working as an HR contractor and has recently overseen making 100 staff redundant at a company called Integral UK Ltd, she must be so proud of her contribution to society

@redjacc7581 Ай бұрын

This is the sort of slime & villainy within big business.

@Royboy50 Ай бұрын

And government

@Echo30Mike Ай бұрын

" You lied to the high court and still got your bonus? " response: " yes " GOTCHA. Perjury charges incoming.

@patpending8134 Ай бұрын

I wish, but that wasn't quite how it was put. The lawyer was becoming that she got the bonus, DESPITE what the High Court judge had said.

@miketaylor1783 Ай бұрын

Her attitude towards the family of the suicide postmaster was pathetic. Only Thames Water would applaud her actions. What do her family think of her?

@Lynnefromlyn Ай бұрын

ANGLIAN Water too.

@philipcollins218 Ай бұрын

She’s a disgrace - no sympathy for all those ruined lives. No ownership- owned. A blatant liar.

@ncooper8438 Ай бұрын

She's paid a huge salary, in part to deflect and deny in order to protect the business, but in the end she has to account for her actions. If she won't own up to malpractice and wrongdoing she's a coward.

@MrShell311 Ай бұрын

A woman, not taken accountability for something. Shocked. Diversity at it's best.

@cliffordbuttle4529 Ай бұрын

It’s the big blame game who’s going to eat the other one first money makes them evil 😢😢😢😢

@michaelmcginley7930 Ай бұрын

A judge finds her guilty of lying yet is not jailed

@helenjob Ай бұрын

I don't think gender comes into it. A liar's a liar and the post office is full of them at this high level. I remember being appalled by Adam crozier when he was in charge.

@jhutchings7627 Ай бұрын

Ironic really because they FORCED the wrongly convicted postmasters to take responsibility for something with which that they had nothing to do.

@simmybear31 Ай бұрын

They sound like the Nazis at Nuremberg in 1946 where they think they were entirely justified in inflicting pain and suffering on the innocent and claimed to be minor functionaries who were “only obeying orders”!

@MRJERRYCURTIN Ай бұрын

Good comparison

@williamcoulter5462 Ай бұрын

They all got massive bonus payouts even when they knew the convictions were wrong but they got paid to keep their mouths shut or lose the bonus. All bonus payments from when Horizon was introduced should be clawed back by the Government and used to compensate the victims of their fraud.

@peterbennett5910 Ай бұрын

There is a claw back clause in Vennells contract. SUNAK write to her and tell her to pay back all bonus or else court action

@dianeirvine7624 Ай бұрын

She’s already got another job at coutts bank

@neill392 Ай бұрын

She was at the Welsh FA.

@greyfriars6540 Ай бұрын

That explains a lot about Coutts behaviour.

@breaghboo-gc7ub Ай бұрын

@dianeirvine7624 I hope that's a joke!

@michaelhughes1480 Ай бұрын

Figures.

@cliffordbuttle4529 Ай бұрын

She will fit in nicely at coutts bank 😮😮😮😮😮😮

@karendawson4369 Ай бұрын

For the lives this women destroyed she should rot in jail

@Klemheist-vf1hx Ай бұрын

Typical senior leader, throwing everyone else under the bus to mitigate her own responsibility.

@colinfarrelly2513 Ай бұрын

What do you expect she is a woman of a type which is now considered leadership material, they will NEVER take any responsibility for anything. This is part of the massive problem we have in the leadership in this country on the whole.

@sharonramsey715 Ай бұрын

I couldn’t have said it better.

@helenjob Ай бұрын

Slightly mysogenistic view, in my opinion. You can find plenty of men with the same credentials. They don't stand out because business and politics is still people largely by men. Both sexes can be equally awful and the people at the the top of the post office are proving this. Adam Crozier to name but one.

@colinfarrelly2513 Ай бұрын

@@helenjob What about the people she allowed to go to prison die and live in shame for all those years. But no let's not hurt her feelings. !

@dougie1968 Ай бұрын

@@helenjobNope. A realistic view. And it seems Angela is misogynistic as women suffered because of her. But thanks for your slightly misandrist view.

@sharonramsey715 Ай бұрын

Colin, while you consider leadership at top levels in this country, I do hope you are talking and taking into account both sex’s. We have seen leadership on all levels and men are equally responsible for never taking responsibility for their failings. Look no further than the Conservative government. Let’s JUST start with Johnson and take it from there.

@MrMarshy123456 Ай бұрын

Wow lied all they way through she's a coward and the others involved ( being proven they was involved ) should be held accountable and prosecuted for knowing and doing NOTHING, disgusting change laws if needs be so EVERYBODY involved can be charged again disgusting and disgraceful !

@dalyanjewel Ай бұрын

To anyone listening to this woman the contempt in her answers is shocking. Her disregard to the absolute obviousness of her knowingly lying about her causing catastrophic damage of immense proportion to all of those postmasters HAS TO HAVE. A LENGTHY PRISON SENTENCE

@davidmorgan1963 Ай бұрын

When will legal action be taken ? Now everyone who knows her personality knows the real type of person she is 👍

@macangus123 Ай бұрын

This woman is Vile.

@bwghall1 Ай бұрын

I would not put it so kindly myself. extra -VILE

@BarryR. Ай бұрын

No wonder it was wrong with those crooks in charge

@colincourageous699 Ай бұрын

No accountability , no shame and a big fat liar and incompetent..

@mm3nrx Ай бұрын

Accountability is a woman's kryptonite...

@cliffordjamesnirelan Ай бұрын

Go to jail, do not pass GO, do not collect £200 or in her case, her huge bonus ..

@ktay7382 Ай бұрын

Disgraceful, her behaviour is awful. Who would give her a job, basically not being truthful

@mikejduk Ай бұрын

Every one responsible for this horrendous situation has a problem with Memory loss! Selective Memory loss, that is!

@jeffjohnson2348 Ай бұрын

She and others have no conscience at all; they simply want to cover it all up by lying again and again. They must get a Prison sentence.

@rtdgreg Ай бұрын

She decided to leave. She wasn’t made redundant. But, we are told, she was made redundant. Did Post Office make redundancy payment to her? How much was that?

@soihollywood850 Ай бұрын

This incompetent fool needs to be punished.

@gtek8021 Ай бұрын

She is a disgrace. WHEN WILL WE SEE JUSTICE?

@patrickfoley1018 Ай бұрын

Outstanding work Nick ..... you have set the bar really high ....

@wendyprince1301 Ай бұрын

Her whole demeanour is very hard faced, she showed nothing but contempt for the press on her entrance and exit to the enquiry. She read an apology with absolutely no sincerity, I doubt she wrote it herself and it seemed like she had been instructed to apologise, and she loathed doing it. Throughout her evidence she was elusive, yet pedantic over her use of language and certain technicalities. Her contempt for the enquiry and for the British legal system is astounding.

@derekmay8427 Ай бұрын

How can this hateful woman be allowed to get away with blatant lies under oath! Not one ounce of compassion!

@iancameron7247 28 күн бұрын

Lying all the way through. She needs jailed.

@Geoffdam123 Ай бұрын

She should be in prison….the suffering and suicides are on her hands…..awful woman.

@simoran2714 Ай бұрын

I write this from Cape Town. I have grown up & lived in Africa throughout my entire life. I am therefore, more than familiar with lies, cover-ups & corruption, often covered by manipulation & the desire for control over others... Having only followed this story from a distance, I then saw the fantastic ITV Docu Series, very recently.... My hope, is that, with everything going on in the world, this story will not be washed over & swept away. Please don't allow this to happen. Full justice MUST be served, including full & immediate compensation, in the LARGEST possible way... It will stand upon the following legal decisions, to allow the UK to separate itself from the other material, despotic dictatorships the rest of the world thrives upon...

@Rendell001 Ай бұрын

A couple of key traits coming through in her testimony - "Magical thinking", misrembering events, lack of empathy and denying any responsibility. If I didn't know any better I'd say she was displaying all the hallmarks of NPD...

@chrissailing8856 Ай бұрын

35 Years - She knew everyone. She managed upwards. She knew and engaged with everyone of importance. She had a personal text after leaving from Paula Vennels. Knowledge was power and her personal brand and she got promoted as she got things done come what May.

@anthonystanbury5537 Ай бұрын

She has perverted the course of justice and needs to be prosecuted, she needs to be sent to prison. She needs to serve minimum of 2 years.

@MM.-qo7pk Ай бұрын

Minimum of 10 years

@johngibson.youhavesuchachi3084 Ай бұрын

She is not remotely bothered about the sub postmasters. Her agenda , like Vennels is protect herself. Her deception and deceit is so transparent

@dorishenderson2979 Ай бұрын

Everything Angie baby enters the court the song by Shaggy 'It wasn't me' should be played, it is perfect for so many of these recent witnesses and those coming over the weeks ahead.

@oddball7483 Ай бұрын

They never take responsibility for their actions. Always somebody else's problem or deflect by raising another non relevant issue.

@JohnCates-tn1gq Ай бұрын

She had a top job or jobs for many years.she has lied and lied.all throuh for years she had a job at the top with all information within her reach.

@michaeltownsend1719 Ай бұрын

how do SHE sleep She can't remember LIES LIES

@davidgeorgea Ай бұрын

How sad that these post office personnel on trial now , who have devastated and caused several to take their own lives ,utterly destroying the lives and families of others , giving as if it helps their hollow apologies in my view it’s disgraceful. They are not truthful about their involvement in this travesty . I still don’t know how they was aloud to prosecuted these hard working honest workers. This should have been investigated by the police . 👮🏻

@user-rm3gx3zu9r Ай бұрын

No no just the pay and lifelong vast pension. Hey this is GREAT Britain. Great for some mainly evil for most.

@petermartyn9701 Ай бұрын

Common people don't get away with corruption and get locked away, let's see how the system deals with these ' higher ups'

@mikehughes9836 Ай бұрын

This is what happens when promoting people, becomes a box ticking exercise

@michaelhughes1480 Ай бұрын

Hey up Mike.

@dizzman5546 Ай бұрын

Everyone is so greedy in high offices 😡

@snapdragon1194 Ай бұрын

I would like to know what these senior positioned people were exactly doing day to day in their jobs, when they now say they don't have any idea about the facts in question? How do they expect us to believe these blatant lies about their own culpability in this disgusting crime. She's as guilty as all the other bosses of gross mismanagement, especially Vennells.

@mark.lawrence Ай бұрын

a beautiful human being. her parents must be very proud... make her an MBE now... because that's what crooks get in this country.

@peterbennett5910 Ай бұрын

Hear is an example why uk is stuck in a rut. A person who has made negative contribution paid a high salary and bonus and could not even say what her role was. How many others are at this game. I would say thousands in HR are at it

@Coneman3 5 күн бұрын

Main problem in the west imo

@IanPettyfer-tk5yf 26 күн бұрын

Where did they think so many Postmasters were hiding all this money? Surely personal bank accounts were checked? No new cars, boats, houses, lavish lifestyles seem to have emerged on a grand scale!?

@paulcharleshayes1835 Ай бұрын

I'm puzzled she said she took redundancy then said she left on her own accord Did they structure her leaving as redundancy as a way of giving her massive leaving package! They all knew the wheels were coming off the waggon especially her.

@melbeeswax6087 Ай бұрын

Tick follows tock follows tick follows tock. Youre time is coming Paula. Itll soon be your turn.

@PJMcInerney Ай бұрын

And Alice Perkins - she was far more concerned about govt funding than the plight of the SPMS

@dingopisscreek Ай бұрын

Paula Vennells is in front of the inquiry 3rd week of May. SHE is the main person in all this. THAT is a must watch. They are all lying through their teeth. They were fully aware from early on that Horizon was throwing up accounting errors, yet did nothing to investigate. If it hadn't been for Computer Weekly, James Arbuthnot, Private Eye and the 'Bates v The Post Office' drama this might have remained hidden from the public. Of course, THAT is what those at the PO wanted to happen - so they could keep getting their bonuses, sack sub PM's and 'recover' money from them to which they were not entitled. The whole thing is a beyond a scandal. I fully expect some of these execs to be jailed in the fullness of time.

@clivewakley3901 Ай бұрын

Echoes of Nuremburg? I saw nothing, I heard nothing, I did nothing - I was only following orders.

@snowyowel7961 Ай бұрын

How come the cps are not being questioned they also prosecuted innocent people.

@701Adventures Ай бұрын

I could be wrong but I don’t believe the Post Office needed CPS to authorise any charges because the Post Office run their own prosecutions.

@snowyowel7961 Ай бұрын

@@701Adventures I have had that said before I did check it out on Google and when starmer was head of the CPS during the post office scandal the CPS prosecuted some people themselves and it was said starmer being the DPP could have stepped in .Also Blair was warned at the time that horizon could be faulty.

@neill392 Ай бұрын

@@snowyowel7961 They prosecuted 3, they wouldn't have got anywhere near Starmer's desk.

@snowyowel7961 Ай бұрын

@@neill392 No he never seems to be for the victims does he.

@701Adventures Ай бұрын

@@snowyowel7961 Fair enough, I wasn’t too sure. 👍

@user-qv4mx3xq9l Ай бұрын

Payout for the postmasters now !

@oldswede9307 Ай бұрын

She is like trudeau here in canada. If their lips are moving they are most definetly lying

@roodersclive8654 Ай бұрын

Yeah great comparison 🤡

@williamclifford4441 Ай бұрын

She's clearly a sociopath, why would/could she ever take responsibility?

@clivehomer3145 Ай бұрын

She should go to prison nothing but a liar

@user-wf3nn6rx5t Ай бұрын

For this woman to show a regret means she has to find her soul first, and she sold that to the Post Office.

@patpending8134 Ай бұрын

Yes, her soul is just missing.

@Coneman3 5 күн бұрын

Or the devil got it.

@Spartan129 Ай бұрын

PRISON !!!!

@OutRAjious Ай бұрын

She IS Poison..

@ahmedtayel4489 4 күн бұрын

Look at them, they knew that people were innocent and they did not care. People's lives were destroyed. Look at all of them.... the carried on earning millions- going on luxury holiday- buying expensive cars and the innocent people went to prison, Justice is required. My gratitude to all of you for exposing all of these dishonest people.

@robertyoung8785 Ай бұрын

Changing their statements, its obvious they've been coached .

@barrymccullock4757 Ай бұрын

Basically it sounds like she’s a liar.

@tonychorley4936 Ай бұрын

Seems she has been carefully coached by lawyers on how to reply, something it seems they have been doing for years. Puzzled why the same company is supposed to be running the compensation scheme, no wonder they continue to lie and delay everything.

@virtualunreality8326 Ай бұрын

She's just like my manager who I used to work for.

@jerrywaterfalls5865 Ай бұрын

Don’t normally watch talktv but the coverage of this inquiry has actually been really good.

@allanwhiteley6199 Ай бұрын

Didn't take the responsibility but took the annual salary.

@DavidThomas-fm1uv Ай бұрын

I do not think she can be prosecuted for perverting the course of justice, because it was a Post Office Kangaroo court and not a criminal court. I may be wrong.....but unlikely, cant't recall being wrong before 🤣 On a serious note, the more I watch this Inquiry, the more my blood boils as to the level of corruption in the Post Office hierarchy

@user-om7is7ov9v Ай бұрын

She lied to Parliament with Paula Vennels. I think that might be considered to be perjury, but I could be wrong!

@AndreA-ke2id Ай бұрын

She and her colleagues at the top put innocent people in prison. They now need to see what it feels like. Make them accountable in front of the courts, not an enquiry.

@kathykay9920 24 күн бұрын

This person deserves to stand in front of a jury and have a fair for the seeming crimes they have committed . If the police don't act we need to follow Alan Bates and crowdfund such a process. We cannot let these people get away without a trial. My cheque book is ready if no action is taken. Let's have some proper justice for teflon executives for a change and get faith back in justice. Please join me if we need to Crowd fund for postmaster justice.

@dingopisscreek Ай бұрын

The evidence brought up of the SPM who was so traumatised by his prosecution that he threw himself under a bus and died later in hospital was truly heart rending. A direct result of his prosecution - THAT was down to the PO. So the PO was responsible for that - no doubt about it. Down to the 'legals' as to whether that was Corporate Manslaughter - but if it is then jail time is beckoning for someone.

@janeconnors1807 Ай бұрын

Why were these people so desperate to prosecute the innocent knowing full well the evidence was severely compromised. What hateful, vile creatures they are. No morality whatsoever