Dont mind those people, this community has a very dumb part to it and that part will defend their waifus with their life.

Nah it's not a secret that Dehya kit is poorly designed (jumping cancel her burst lol) even at some situation Diluc and Klee is better than her, so people cannot think that someone is Dehya hater simply because telling she's bad. Even Gacha Gamer which always gives an positive review, become kinda disappointed in his Dehya video.

Too many people really try to compare her to kokomi artifact situation it's unreal

​@@Faustkiverian2380 i dont know why people consider diluc and klee to be THIS bad

Nah he's on our side. I don't think anyone is really a Dehya hater, we're mostly on the same side.

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Yeah, it tells us that they know exactly what they’re doing. So moving forward, we should stop asking “why did MHY do x” and start wondering wtf were they thinking when they did X.

Incredibly polished experience of frustration

Bravo Mihoyo, Dehya is truly the 5 star of all time

clearly a tactical decision. Make an egregiously shitty character out the box to force the esthetically invested to buy more constellations to make their shitty character to be less shitty and more playable. Manufactured problem: solved!

​@@theLanceInPants they failed that too. If she was not put into standard I would of actually went for cons but not anymore

*dehyafying

I expect nothing less from the unit that Powercrept Qiqi as Worse Standard 5* 💀

Our expectations for Hoyoverse were low but holy fack!

In all the wrong ways bro :(

Dehying*

so it was you that stole my copium tank...

*Gives fried egg to revive*

​@@mikyeediaz120 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 im actually dying

Please do not exhaust the world copium supply, everyone else needs it too

I mean we are getting new artifact set that's cater to her though idk how much will it buff her. So at least this one isn't copium at all.

W9 difficulty unlocked with Dehya lol

An hardcore game mean you have the time to clear the content to max. Who s not even the case. For that you need a f***ing c6 r5 dehya 💀💀💀

The reverse Zhongli

Is this the endgame content everyone was looking for?

So dps Aloy + dehya enabler is the "bro you need help mode"?

they just hate dark skin characters in china. Thats a fact sadly :(

to make u feel bad when losing a 50/50 ig, incentivises you to spend more and get the limited character

XQ also give interrupt resistance :)))))))

To make you feel bad when you lose your 5050 to her in the future of course. Many have been too happy when they get Tighnari upon losing 5050, so they have to dilute chance to get him a bit by throwing some abomination into the mix.

@@sanae99.9.9 Not to mention Xingqui dmg mitigation is what it supposed to be, you press burst and 48% of incoming dmg gone to the thin air, not share it 50/50 with your other characters😂

At least I won't feel so bad about getting Qiqi on a 50/50 (Copium)

Dehya: the only banner where you lose the 50/50 100% of the time

they heard you can run qiqi with fridge and had enough of our nonsense

@@theLanceInPants well there was that keqing banner...

But Tighnari was well designed and he was always meant to be standard, wtf happened

This is why copuim and hopuim are actually bad cause u just do nothing and wait for things to magically get better. Well...my friend....this is reality now. Accept it, for all of us.

​@@lostblueboy Tbf hoyo got beta feedback, they just ignored it.

@@luminous3558 true...but not what I meant. Nothing gets a company going like boycotts, it would set a fire under their ass to get their shit together

It was true, we were missing something I wish we weren't tho

@@luminous3558 They didn't ignore it. They were specifically after negative feedback initial beta feedback: she's kinda ass hoyo: just kinda? gotta nerf then update feedback: wtf are you doing? she's absolute shit hoyo: perfect.

At least the Dehya memes are well-cooked Chef’s Kiss HYV meanwhile served her Raw 💀

Wait it's the REAL Tyler Not Taylor YOOOOO. Love your mashups

And i wanted my comment to be a copypasta like this XD

remember that HYV has all the data here so i really, REALLY do hope that her stats are like that because they found out that she's busted (or working to a functional degree at least) when combined with a certain feature/artifact/character in the future they are developing.

Using dainsleif voice

And to us, because her popularity warrants better treatment.

@@TheRealSarceus to us? Dehya iirc always at the lowest character popularity survey from all sumeru character here (asia). I think she is only popular on west

@@franlychandraariefmoerwant1040 yea shes not popular in asia (pretty sure we all know why but thats not my point) but even so, without changing her kit they couldve just like, changed some of her numbers around and she would be at least functional. its like mhy actively didnt want to make money, ffs even xinyan isnt as bad as this

@@curryfishheadenjoyer what are you talking about?, please give example of defensif character that had good number multiplier beside zhongli (thanks to stupid community uproar), Pretty sure all defensif character had terrible number, see qiqi, high heal, terrible number, thoma, high shield terrible number, kokomi high heal and high hydro app, -100 crit rate, diona high shield and heal aoe, terrible number, why you want dehya the 2nd exception (beside zhongli (thx to stupid uproar)) P.s sorry bad english, its like 4-5th language i learnt

​@@franlychandraariefmoerwant1040 Zhongli's multiplier is good because Geo has no reactions, not because of stupid uproar. The uproar just gives him a little bit of hp scaling, which is still worse than atk if you're building damage. Defensive utility has bad numbers, but usually good enough defensive utility or other utilities. Thoma's shield is the 2nd best 4 star shield, but he also applies pyro every second. Diona's shield is weaker than Thoma, but she can also heal and be a battery. Layla's shield is the best 4 star shield if you don't plan on making her a battery. Dehya though? This 5 star mitigates half of the dmg the active character get (it goes to Dehya, not shielded or reduced as far as I know), for 9 seconds with 18 seconds of cooldown. She can actually die off field because of this. I think that's pretty bad as far as defensive utilities go. What does she provide besides bad defensive utility? Her E is much slower AND less reliable than Thoma's Q for burgeon, a 4 star defensive unit. Her Q's scaling is about as good as Diluc's normal attacks. Its also much faster, but without Xingqiu/Yelan and only for 4 seconds, which can get cancelled if you jump. Even her normal attack can knock back a small enemy far enough that her next hit misses. Overall, all part of her kit is abyssmal, and unless you just really like her design/character, pulling on her banner is a waste.

I’m guessing 2 hours of that was trying to kill a hydro slime

@@BrianXu352 okay that is funny

@@BrianXu352underrated comment lol

Bless!

More time than Mihoyo’s battle team did!

At high investment she is as strong as my c3 shogun with no artifacts. That just blows my mind

He didn't to make a point as he said in stream anyone who plays her can tell she is not good he crowned hutao to make a point but crowned dehya because he like dehya

​@@mukeshkhera1381 true. From what I see, he really likes Dehya as a character, which is why you can feel the pain in his voice whenever he talks about how bad she is.

@@richcast66 wait ,is it good or bad?

@@quangamng its not

Oh my god

WHAT

It's basically taking damage so it makes sense why XQ's Rainswords can be broken

wait are you serious wtf

doesn't matter she doesn't work with xingqiu anyway

*but HOLY FUCK, i'm sorry

I never thought I would see a day where my mono geo outdamages a pyro dps regardless of vape, melt, or burgeon

@@richcast66 it’s kinda unfair to compare her to pyro DPS characters or any DPS for that matter. Compare her to defensive flexes like Thoma or Zhongli. In that case she’s pretty bad. The lack of good energy generation and defensive uptime is embarrassing. Her kit reads like a 4*. In that case I think she’d have potential once you get c2.

@@Aaron_Kuroiwa and a bad 4* at that, its like mhy looked at xinyan and was like ah yes our newest 5* lets just do THAT again but worse!!

@@richcast66 *Sees at my 30s-1m mono geo team* uh i supose i am very talented or something f2p btw.

I agree, her pyro applications are very pyro applications

@@Biohacker777 he probably meant it as a pun that her damage are *numerals*, you know, those ten numerals 0-9, from which we get actual numbers like 12

@@ALEX-db6rr i got the jokes, i tried doing the same but you don't get mine 😅

out of all the pyro characters, she sure is one.

No matter what you say, she is the current best 5 star female pyro claymore!!

pass me some of the copium you're on brother, it looks like it's stronger than the batch i have

Idk man and the r5 weapon too

Idk man and 1000%cv artifact

Guys listen once Level 100 in 3.6 we will get a new passive for all Standard units and dehjya will scale full HP PAGMAN

Idk man and the japanese audio that increases damage output

you know IT'S BAD when they put bennett in another character's test run

I played her trial. Then i played cyno's. Needless to say cyno felt like a literal god compared to her

I swear it's the first time I've seen a non free unit like bennet in the trial. Maybe they realized that she would never get her burst back without him...

@@katacutie same I haven't seen anyone mention that but as far as I remember even when Bennet was featured on a banner he was never added to the 5 star Trial team... I don't think any featured character was ever used in the 5 star trial either until this patch

@@katacutie they did this with faruzan (trial heizou) and alhaitham (trial fischl) too

I hate how absolutely fitting this headline is

Wdym Qiqi is a Battery Kappa lmao

Tbf if you have cons for qiqi she can actually generate energy and with sac she can generate a decent amount. Basically qiqi is a better battery than Deya is a defensive option…by a noticeable amount..

When you bring xiangling you bring dehya as a battery

@@koringavp3669 unless your using xiangling on field that’s not near enough energy… one particle per coordinated attack…fav thoma would still be better if you’re just looking for a battery

@@theblacksakura8732 yup, my comment is a reference to that video were qiqi is a battery

500% dmg all enemies are a combination of hydro/cryo

@@theLanceInPants Maybe she can now one rotate a hydro slime

that would at least make her any useful (for a single abyss)

She would genuinely still do less dps than hutao...

@@luminous3558 paywalled behind c6

Oh my god true Dehya is the mobile-friendly carry we all wanted all this time pog

@@jsw973 I mean... Every other character also has mash out of freeze as a separate button

Wise words, comrade, wise words.

I mean her burning team does work fairly well.

@@spankymcmillan The reaction does more damage than her. Just bring any Pyro character lole

@@teaQtheQTI'll explain the rational for choosing Dehya for a burning team: The point of choosing her over another pyro is that she frees up another BETTER pyro for another team they can do even more on, and it helps isolate high EM into 2 units rather than 3. normal burning = Nahida Bennett Kazuha Xiangling. That's 3 characters will be activating burning. Xiangling has many other teams she can do a lot more on than a burning team (Childe vape, Ganu/Ayaka melt etc, Raiden national, etc). Oh look here's Dehya with MUCH slower but off field pyro application than any other character which means her stealing and owning burns happens way less often than Xiangling's fast applying no ICD having pyronado. This means that with Dehya rather than Xiangling the two characters getting almost every burn will be Kazuha and Nahida... both of whom ACTUALLY scale with and want very high EM anyways. So Dehya fills the role of applying pyro while allowing Nahida and Kazuha to do even more damage. Burning teams are kinda nuts in aoe, and it's ACTUALLY a good team for Dehya to fill a role in that plays upon both her strengths and many weaknesses while giving up much less by using her. That said, Xiangling on the team the team WOULD do more damage, but you're using Xiangling when you could just use Dehya who is apparently trash and worthless. And while her over Xiangling is a net loss in damage, it's not so much that it can't easily clear say side 2 of current abyss comfortably with time to spare. So, you replace literally the best pyro character in the game with literally the worst pyro character in the game and lose very little, letting that best pyro do her thing on a strong team on the other side.

​@@spankymcmillanwhy not use Thoma then? He has a shield, applies pyro more frequently but not super frequently.

Doesn't Yoimiya's skill cast literally do no damage? 😭

@@kirin1230 THAT'S THE POINT 😭😭😭

To make thing worse, i see a comparison about C0R1 Hu Tao actually does more damage than C6R5 Dehya which is wtf???

@@Faustkiverian2380 well i believed that HYV didn't mean to make her as a damage dealer

@@Hanifhi_yahayo she sucks at everything else too tho

@@Faustkiverian2380yea it’s insane how low her numbers are

@@Hanifhi_yahayo She also sucks as a support. Barely any particle generation and damage mitigation which is a direct downgrade to healers and shielders.

DehyaMains have been through all 5 Stages of Grief multiple times already. We’ve ran out of all the regulated COPIUM tanks and some have been resorting to the off-brand Stuff 💀

As a Eulaless Eula main, sorry they shafted you guys so hard. It is painful to watch how bad she is when everything non gameplay related is on point.

@@LightshaverConstellation what in the eulaless eula main lmao, i hope you get her when mihoyo release her from their basement 👍

@@LightshaverConstellation As a fellow eula main, may you get your ice queen and many constellations when hoyo frees her from her shackles. Maybe she'll come back in golden apple archipelago rerun with a skin...

​@@mike81356 dehya mains don't exist

Truly an eksdee moment.

The burst being cancelled by a jump is crazy. Hoyo were on a mission to make the worst character to play ever and they succeeded.

Actually, if you just Don't mash out of freeze, it extends your burst duration, and you don't get cancelled. Actually a buff, true, not cope

bro they nerfed her burst damage in beta they were like "nope some c6 r5 might outdamage hu tao c0 on black tassel we gotta fix that" it was a total 10% dps loss

@@undeniablySomeGuy yeah and watch the abyss timer ticking

I had no idea that you PC players jump when trying to break free of freeze.

All our Dehya was ruined

This is known to happen with sucrose too afaik but haven't heard of it with anyone else til now lmao

Not Gonna Lie? You mean FYI for "For Your Information"

How did they fit so many wrong things into one single package

If they don't kick you/leave your world

Idk man, she isn't even fun to play in the overworld

she's not fun to play, it's just the burst animation that's fooling you

@@monotool nah i mean it. Animation-wise Heizhou punch things while Dehya feels punch the universe. Her (lack of) utility, damage, synergy, energy regen, elemental application, (too much) knockback on the otherhand... issa garbage. Surprised MHY gave us the first 3 ✨ character. I hope the banners income fails immensely so that they learn they never made another character like this ever again

Yes because not everyone is a meta slave 😬

@@p1o_nutella650 not sure if dehya main or copium addict

​@@p1o_nutella650 Then wtf are you doing on Meta channel? 😂🖕

bruh i think the reallllly safe option for a dehya main is to skip her and patiently wait for her on 5050s. its just the question of do you want her now or not

@@p1o_nutella650 It's not about being a metaslave or not. Deyha simply does NOT function as a character in this game. Everything, and I mean littteraly EVERYTHING is wrong with her kit. The people saiying her best team is hyperbloom Nahida/Kuki/XQ/Deyha without ever swapping to Deyha are right. She's been metodically destroyed by the dev team, they thought about rendering useless every single aspect of the character. It's almost a work of art in some way but I'm gonna stop there because I might start throwing insults at these A-holes.

Idk man she is so bad, that any future character that makes her good, would probably also make already good units god-like

for real, shes got an interesting kit and the off field pyro is something we need a lot more of. if she has any combination of good multipliers, actual hp scaling, lower burst cost, higher particle generation, shorter cooldown, longer duration on her skill, literally any one or more of these, she would be a lot better than she is now

like zajeff mentioned, she works well enough in melt ganyu but the duration is way too short and it feels like i can barely get much shots off before i have to redo the rotation. so disappointed bcs i really wished there were better options other than xianging for her lol

The web event with Dunyarzad? Every 5 star gets a web event. I still remember Kazuha's web event on his first banner. Let's be real here that hoyo's favorite Sumeru child other than Nahida is Alhaitham. They smoked something to make his kit meta-breaking when beta started

I have a suspicion that the set isn't actually for her but for a future limited character with similar mechanics (but better). Considering the other new set is a hydro set it seems likely that the domain is intended for some future characters. Fontaine is likely only 3-4 patches away.

Eh, I'll take the 2pc for my Nilou though. Especially F2P Nilou without her signature will appreciate more HP.

ngl it looks like a good C6 Yelan set

Also everyone who got Alloy got her for free, getting a terrible unit for free is not really bad at the end of the day it didn't eat into any of your hard earned primos... However if you get Dehya excluding this patch, you'll most likely have spent a fair amount of primos aiming for a limited char to see this hot garbage drop and man that's going to hurt...

@@knmrt2760 aloy was also avoidable, I'm a day one player and don't have her. took a whole year for that email to expire but worth it to not see that ugly ass red card. dehya isn't avaoidable unless u just dont pull anymore. that being said im still pulling for dehya.

Most importantly she doesn't screw your pulls on the limited banner.

I fully upgraded Aloy, gave her 10/9/9 talents and I have to say that she's not as bad as you think she is. Oh, and of course she's waaaay better than Dehya.

@@BulletSponge71436 aloy was the worst character in the game until dehya appeared...

powercreeping in reverse is not better than just usual powercreep

​@@dogo523 in gacha games, I'd argue that its still better than normal powercreep... for the players. Reverse powercreep means we aren't incentivised to spend for new characters, the old ones are the best. Normal powercreep makes people spend money to keep up. I'd say the option that doesn't make people spend money is still the better one.

She didnt even need to be powercrept, just needed to make her HP scale into EM or vice versa and make her apply pyro 1 or 1.5 seconds faster than now, then she'd have a niche as the burgeon character we wanted She is just a filler arc, the first half of 3.5 is filler

Is it that much of a buff seeing as how quickly em falls off after 200 for melt (and how nahida gives you that 200)

@@midnightemerald I mean it's f2p and you truly don't have any really suitable weapons on her except for probably sac for uptime and fav for energy.

​@@devondorr8212 Most rotations want to go from Nahida to Ganyu to pass thrilling tales. Losing thrilling tales for Forest Regalia seems bad

@@CC-kp7ge you don't need to pick it up I guess, but I can see it making it more complicated to play.

@@devondorr8212 the issue is that regalia only triggers on a dendro reaction, how would you trigger a dendro reaction without nahida first?

Suck lol

This. I had the same thought.

I think this same statement already happened during kokomi's first banner

@@actpianocover6329 If it did, I was unaware. All I heard about her was the Can't Crit Memes, but that one artifact set turned her from a meme to a decent unit. We can only pray Dehya is in the same boat. Short of the Zhongli Treatment, a cracked artifact set is our last hope.

@@Ethonra clam set isnt what saved her. you dont even use clam on her in her good teams

Sarcasm :))))

@@sanae99.9.9 i mean, it DID LITERALLY BROKEN tho. In negative way, ofc.

Indeed

Was alhaitham good or bad? Wasn’t playing that patch

@@elgoblino4188 alhaitham is a very good/high damage carry, unlike dehya who is comically bad in every possible way. like others say, it's almost impressive.

@@bud05 watch baizhu be op

@@justsomeguywithnoeyes7303 ... just go read about his leaks... liyue favoritism isn't a thing suuuuuuuuuurely

@@eduardopereira6698 To be fair I'm pretty sure the Liyue favoritism thing is a little exaggerated, they have quite a bit of not so good units like qiqi, xiao and arguably ganyu who's outclassed by ayaka in freeze. Zhongli's also pretty overrated imo but i think most ppl have come to realise that outside his defensive utility he's not that great

Except if you got her, you need to go all the way to desert area to farm for her materials. So I don't think she is even beginner friendly in a more casual perspective

i forgot she is from desert.... yeah you right

He’s from Chi- I mean Liyue after all

I'm scared about his energy... Signature gives 12, in a rotation that's about 24 which is a lot plus the C1 is extra charge. It's not a good sign because you won't be able to easily stack 50k HP to reach the max reaction damage buffs.

That doesn't solve the issue for controller players or justify that it is even a thing to begin with though.

@@Nowaylarry Yeah, you're exactly right. On top of that, even for PC users it's super clunky to use and really really hard to get used to (pressing spacebar is pretty natural). I don't actually think anyone should do this, just something to add.