She was not prophet but thief and liar

Thank you for the message, I agree with all the points you made Brother. The SOP is a great blessing given to the remnant people of God and it is present truth. May you abide continually with Jesus, grow in faith and be blessed and be a blessing to those around you!

Another more serious implication of equating the inspiration of scripture to the inspiration of SoP is that if only one error/mistake if found in the SoP then the whole of Christianity is based on a lie

@@henryhondo8421 that is not correct. There are mistakes in the Bible. It is infallible, but not inerrant. Also there are discrepancies in the accounts of the four gospels. Most people do not understand inspiration and they are looking for automatic writing like the devil does, where the spirit possesses the mind and dictates what is to be said. Channeling. Now, sometimes this may happen. The angel may appear in vision or dream and sometimes even in the room where the prophet is, and dictate words, sometimes, but in general, inspiration is done by imbuing the human agent with thoughts and these get put down in the human language and idiom. The bottom line when comparing canonical inspired writing to non-canonical is that we cannot assign degrees of inspiration any more than we could assign degrees of pregnancy. Either you are or you aren't inspired/pregnant. The difference is that non-canonical prophets were intended to speak mainly to their own generation. That is what EGW is: the prophet to the final generation. Adventists ignore the SoP at their peril!

@@thathalfthaiguy explain present truth?

Awesome! What a great privilege you had my friend, may the good Lord continue to bless you

Not an evil spirit. It was Jesus Christ Our Lord and Saviour. Get thee behind me satan!

Gods spirit has illuminated every page of holy writ, but there are those upon whom it makes little impression, because it is in perfectly understood. When the Shaking comes, by the introduction of false theories, these surface readers anchored nowhere are like shifting sand. They slide into any position to suit the tenor of their feelings of bitterness. TM p. 112

Likely a fallen angel

The angel Gabriel identified himself to Zacharias and even to Daniel. So what is your argument here? God does allow his angels to identify themselves by name at times. It's a undeniable biblical fact (Luke 1:19) In Daniel and the Bible, there are several test given to identify a true prophet, one of which is that they are without breath when under the influence of the Holy Spirit. Did Muhammad or Joseph Smith not breath for hours while supposedly under the "spirit"? No, they did not. Ellen White was in vision for over an hour at times and she never breathed even one breath that entire time. No other so called prophet even tries to duplicate this. Another test is that they can posses super-human power, which she also showed. Also, the prophets always supported the prophets that came before and did not contradict the law and the testimonies.... obviously neither Muhammad nor Joseph Smith fulfill even this basic requirement. God promised to send prophets at the end (Joel 2:28 & Acts 2:17), so He has. If people don't believe God's word and they don't understand the basic tests given to identify true prophets... they will be deceived.

Young man, you were lied to and you judge wrongly. All of these hateful slanderous accusations against Mrs White have been proven false. If you’re smart enough to dig up this trash against her - you’re smart enough to find out the truth but are you actually interested in the truth? By your judgement, Jonah was also a false prophet because he prophesied that Nineveh would be destroyed… it obviously did not happen… it’s called a conditional prophecy. You conveniently ignore all the things she got 100% correct. Sunday laws are coming - you’ve been told - you make a decision what you’ll do then. I hope you choose wisely because for many they will not believe till they see and even then it’ll be too much for their pride to accept. Wish you the best

Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. God’s people “keep the commandments of God”. Obviously this is in direct contrast to those who don’t. Which commandment specifically is told here Revelation 14:6-7 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, [7] Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that MADE HEAVEN, AND EARTH , and THE SEA, and the fountains of waters. John basically quotes right from the 4th commandment that tells us to worship God because He is the creator. God’s people who receive the Seal of God keep all 10 commandments. That is explicitly told us multiple times by John in Revelation in contrast to those who get the mark of the beast. Exodus 20:8-11 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. [9] Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: [10] But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: [11] For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

@@thathalfthaiguy So if you as sda keep commandments perfectly and law why you need Jesus? All of you are perfect. But if not then what makes you different from rest of the believer's? Read revelation but from the begining . Where does say: People's worhsiped on Sunday and that's why angel says to them to worship on Saturday? Nowhere , but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority. 3 One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast. 4 People worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can wage war against it?.why you skep this part and act like that never existed? People's started to worship devil as creator and saviour I guess and then after that Angel came and show them: DO NOT WORSHIP DEVIL ( BCS you can worship only God) WORSHIP TRUE GOD CREATOR WHO CREATED HEAVENS AND EARTH. In the begining God created Heavens and the earth But nowhere sabbath here? Let's check Matt 11 At that time Jesus said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Col 1 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. Acts When they heard this, they raised their voices together in prayer to God. “Sovereign Lord,” they said, “you made the heavens and the earth and the sea, and everything in them. Acts 14 14But when the apostles Barnabas and Paul found out about this, they tore their clothes and rushed into the crowd, shouting, 15“Men, why are you doing this? We too are only men, human like you. We are bringing you good news that you should turn from these worthless things to the living God, who made heaven and earth and sea and everything in them. 1 The same pater. But again nowhere Saturday. But people's worship false god's and bcs of that they speak about God the Creator. How you can recognize him? As the one who created Heavens and the earth. 1In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. So easy. Now,do you perfectly keep all components including 613? And where in the New Testament or the old one did you find: Sunday is mark of the beast and Saturday is the Seal not Sign but Seal of God? And if will you answer i beg you to answer this. Last sda who i asked this i needed to write 50 times before he given up and still did not give me answer where in the bible is Sunday mark of thr beast. I will not answer bcs I'm using bible only. If you are protestant then use bible only and show me mark of the beast Sunday in the bible if you are not then admit. And according to your logic: Jews who worship on Saturday will be saved even if they did not accept Jesus. Bcs sabbath is test of loyalty right? And they also like you claim that they keep commandments. So they can be saved. But Christians who already have holy spirit in them and pray on sunday they actually pray to the devil? Really?

​​@@thathalfthaiguyIts absolute nonsense. First off all if you want to follow the law then why only talk about the 10 Commandments there are 5 books of laws. 2nd no one in the entire history can keep the law. break 1 you broke them all

@@anettecoetzee3363 so you think it’s ok to kill and steal… so you have no reason to be angry with someone for killing your family or stealing your car or for your spouse to cheat on you… because no one can keep the law of God… right? That’s why people despise so call Christians - they have no power or anything better to offer the world. They live like the devil and excuse that Jesus died to give them liberty to sin. So if you can’t stop telling a white lie, why not murder? Satan was a liar and murder from the beginning. Jesus said what is impossible for man is possible with God, you think He’s wrong? Reality is God expects the saved to keep all of His 10 commandments by His grace - whether you face the truth or not doesn’t change it. One day everyone will have to face the music and most aren’t going to like it. But now is the time of probation where changes can be made to trust Jesus. Trust that God is able to do the impossible in your life.

@@thathalfthaiguy you cant keep the law full stop. If you can Jesus died in vain. The law is not just 10 Commandments why stop there? If you say keep the law, how can you choose which law you keep and which you dont? How can you call those proclaiming they are not under the law wrong if you yourself say your not under the law only under the 10 Commandments? 1 John 1:8-10 ESV If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

False. Inspiration does not mean the writer does not use other materials. That is a myth. It is done in the Bible, too, as one writer may lift from another without credit. Revelation is replete with this. Also, it must be understood that literary borrowing was commonplace in her day and there were no rules regarding careful citation of everything. God showed her what was true and if she found better words to express those truths, she would use them and use them legitimately. She had a team of editors. She was not a good writer on her own. She spoke like a hick. We are applying a false standard to her, because OUR standard today was not their standard in their day.

@@MrKevinStraub everything she copied from had proper source credited and some were written 100 years earlier. Keep idolizing your thief and liar

@@natemead everything she copied into her work was credited? No, there are no proper citations for a lot of what she brought in. Keep looking into it and refine your argument, pls. Also, please look into "verbal" vs. "plenary" inspiration. Also, if you don't want to believe or can't see it, what is it to you if others find the work credible? Are you worried for our souls? Or what?

@@natemead if what she did were not legal and commonplace you might call her a thief. If she did not admit to how she would borrow, then she would be a liar. Where, exactly did she steal? And where, exactly, did she lie? You are playing the part of the accuser and, like any prosecutor, you must present the evidence to be credible, or you are just throwing up dust. So... Put up or shut up, as they say. OK?

@@MrKevinStraub I’ve read the books. I’m positive you have not.