Sheeran Looper X | We'll Be Using This From Now On!

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The Sheeran Looper + and Looper x are the culmination of years of experience and expertise. These loopers provide the ultimate looping workflow with unparalleled functionality! If it's good enough for ‪@EdSheeran‬ to tour with, you know it has to be great! | tinyurl.com/2a8lazkp
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» 0:00 Intro Loop!
» 2:24 Introducing the Sheeran Looper X & +
» 8:25 The Interface & Touch Screen
» 10:05 FX
» 12:25 Tuner
» 12:30 Saving Loops
» 13:25 Muting Tracks?
» 15:35 Multitrack Out
» 16:57 Storage
» 17:20 Backing Tracks!
» 17:47 Loop Settings
» 22:06 Global Settings
» 24:00 Updates?
» 24:40 Audio Routing
» 27:20 How Pete Makes a Loop!
» 38:30 Final Thoughts?
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» 40:15 Outro Loop!
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@FKA_Skull 3 ай бұрын

My honest opinion: this is the Headrush Looperboard with Ed Sheerans name on it. They abandoned and quit updating it almost 2 years ago, which meant they only supported the unit for about 3 years. A $1200 looper and they only gave us 3 years of support. I don’t know why this board would be any different. I’d proceed with caution and find this whole situation pretty disgraceful.

@mikeswell9021 3 ай бұрын

Exactly, fck em and will continue calling them out for it every single time I see this product being advertised

@jimi272 3 ай бұрын

Ok damn, was so hyped about this, reading this is a bummer

@cellomalaysia Ай бұрын

I agree, totally cautious when it comes to their company, when sh*t hits the fan, don't expect any support from them at all, plus product lost all it's value and is buggy as hell

@SoundsByHeazy 3 ай бұрын

I was not mentally prepared for this much Danish today! 🤯🤯🤯

@johnelcanrab2114 3 ай бұрын

Oh noooo! Hope you're still OK! 😊

@adamcogan211 3 ай бұрын

I don’t use a looper but I can see this being incredible for anyone that regularly performs with one!

@nopants3560 3 ай бұрын

I've got one , it's called a DAW. Buskers could use it, Buskers that have £1200 going spare ,that is;-)

@SongsForTiredEars 3 ай бұрын

As a current HR looperboard owner, I can attest that the company (HR) did not stand behind their existing customer base at all with the previous hardware version. It is clear that since in hindsight that they had moved on to this version of the product and possibly could not reveal this to their existing client base at the time. They have been radio silent on their own forum about the looperboard. Zero response to customer questions and concerns. They did 1 major firmware update that did improve the looperboard functionality and aesthetics to some degree. However, it was laden with bugs and there were no incremental releases after to fix....anything. Midi functionality is sparse, poorly implemented, and in some areas completely broken . I was forced to move on to another product which I am not entirely happy with either. But at least they believe in their own product, and listen to what the customer base has to say, They are actively engaged in the improvement of the product's core and functionality. The looperboard is now a $900 paperweight that rarely ever comes out of its handy $200 suitcase. I don't care if this thing could make me breakfast, HR lost my respect, and a customer. Cheers!

@JonTorrence 3 ай бұрын

As a live looping musician myself, this makes me drool. The foot switches look so solid!

@Idontlikethisever 3 ай бұрын

Everything Pete creates is pure Gold. I have a Theorie to it. It’s a reflection of his great personality.

@forester057 3 ай бұрын

That used to be code for not attractive.

@Idontlikethisever 3 ай бұрын

@@forester057”great personality” I get it. Was not intended. 😂 He is just amazing.

@baronhead 3 ай бұрын

Yes! That band mode is what I have been looking for. A loop that you can use for improve and soloing and then have the different parts on 2,3,4 for song changes like bridge, varied verse, bridge, etc...

@FJ-yp5fw 3 ай бұрын

Caveat to this message: I am not a professional looping artist nor professional guitar player. I am an intermediate level enthusiast that enjoys looping and gears as a way to practice creativity in music given lack of time to play in a band. With that said, I am the owner of a Boss RC 600 and just purchased the Sheeran Looper X. Here’s a few first impressions compared to RC 600 after playing for a few days with my new loop station: Benefit #1 - The main benefit in my view is the absolute ease of use at all levels. After seeing this video I was able to loop on the get go and use features I had never used on RC 600. Extremely intuitive. The base workflow is very easy and minimizes timing errors too. Benefit #2- Ability to route and adjust levels all outputs: IMHO it is absolutely necessary to get loop decent quality. This is something the RC 600 falls short on and requires midi programming and an external unit to send midi messages. Fantastic to route outputs to a mixer and adjust on the fly. Benefit #3 super high build quality. The pedals are outstanding and extremely solid. The video display is gorgeous and something a modern unit must have. The RC 600 immediately looks like something of the past, despite quite honestly you can do a whole lot with the boss unit at the price of not necessarily being too easy to use, given a limited display with suboptimal menu navigation abilities The looper X main downside is price. A fair price point should be on the 600-800 € range. I believe their target is professional live looping artists but price will limit adoption. The unit exceeds my abilities and probably not justified given my skills, but others at my same skills level will likely choose not to upgrade. A second downside is number of tracks: Would Headrush consider programming the unit in a way that more track could be used (ie 6-8)? Huge shout out to Andertons for a great video, watched several times and very helpful to get started and got me excited for Looper X! cheers

@tzeichi Ай бұрын

I'm currently considering between this and a RC 600. Do you have a one month update on how your experience with the Looper X compares?

@paulheartsongs 3 ай бұрын

The Captain meets Ed Sheeran… we need that video! 😅

@John_2Much_Coffee 3 ай бұрын

Great product. Awesome job by Pete in final jam loop. And great job by team that edited video. To everyone at Andertons, thank you this video put me in a fantastic mood. Cheers!

@BaselineHypocrite 3 ай бұрын

The looper built into the Quad Cortex is also called the Looper X. Maybe Neural could take some notes for their next looper update. This kind of 4-track looping flexibility would be awesome on the QC. They even have the right number of buttons. 😉

@PikaStu666 3 ай бұрын

That's an extremely impressive bit of kit! Good demo guys!

@tj10777 3 ай бұрын

That's awesome that there are useable sounds for guitar, bass, and vocals built into the device. You can just set the looper up stand alone with your instruments and be ready to jam. How cool is that!

@thedee1986 3 ай бұрын

Thank you Pete and Cap for the walk-through. Just got my Looper X and if not for your detailed review I would still be scratching my head on some of the settings. Thanks again!!

@MrNeilltupman 3 ай бұрын

The finger point on the first guitar loop 👌😎

@matzer8846 3 ай бұрын

This seems to be the new king on the stage .. sturdy and a great display with touch ... love it

@trevorD1156 3 ай бұрын

I dont need a looper this intense, but i actually love the footswitches.

@DKinMN 3 ай бұрын

For real. I want these switches on the Prime.

@dasninjastix 3 ай бұрын

Channel editors putting in that work. Good job 👏

@jorgeleonel6663 3 ай бұрын

I was waiting for this! Perfect for what I need. Monumental product!

@johnelcanrab2114 3 ай бұрын

Hope you've got your order in, they're running out fast! Don't miss out!

@jorgeleonel6663 2 ай бұрын

Got it, yes! Super fun and powerful!

@flyinbv 3 ай бұрын

The jam at the end is priceless and hilarious

@giantfella 3 ай бұрын

Love the jam in the end. 🎉

@tweakrr99 3 ай бұрын

Great jams! Looked like you were both having a great time!

@lance134679 3 ай бұрын

I always enjoy the looper jams in the videos, so this will be a great tool for those going forward. 👍

@Tezza777 3 ай бұрын

Oooaah Ed Sheeran you absolute bloody legend I bought one of these cause I'm terrible with technology but wanted to record some music I've had it about a week and its just dawned on me ive made a piece of music and it's recorded and saved and you've just solved all my problems with this brilliant little machine you are a absolute legend thank you thank you thank you for making this I'm absolutely stoked 👏👍👊🤘🤙🙏✌️✨️💫✨️💫✨️🌞

@jonkerrmusic 3 ай бұрын

Just getting into shopping for loopers, and this is a devastating piece of tech... Great demo!

@FollowMeNot 3 ай бұрын

Wow!! it loops video too. How awesome is that!

@cmcg5788 3 ай бұрын

I've been using the Looperboard for the past 2 years for all my solo gigs. FINALLY! It looks like HeadRush has stepped up its game and teamed up with people who really can give solid design input! Just the ergonomics of the switching makes it worth it for me -- I'l most likely get one real soon!

@LivinginLosAngeles-re5yx 3 ай бұрын

It's funny, alot of people who kind of slept on the Headrush Prime are singing it's praises now. Headrush products offer so much value and are good durable products.

@Isaacthompson 3 ай бұрын

Great show guys! Thank you! Blessings

@doublej1881 3 ай бұрын

I wonder if Headrush will provide more enduring support for this than the Looperboard. The Looperboard was another high-priced pedal which was sold on the basis that it was firmware upgradable. All the marketing hype made much of how it was going to be continually updated. Meanwhile, Headrush releases one major update and then the product disappears beneath the waves. I can't have any confidence in the longevity of anything Headrush puts its name to. Just my opinion as a (disappointed) Looperboard owner.

@danilopost 3 ай бұрын

It's basically a Headrush Looperboard. The only, and truly useful upgrade it's the FootSwitch!

@Louis1996_1 3 ай бұрын

Totally

@jonwhittington752 3 ай бұрын

It was made in collaboration with Headrush (even has their name on the back). I'd steer clear - Headrush has left Looperboard users high and dry on their forums for months.

@danilopost 3 ай бұрын

@@jonwhittington752 Unfortunately I know, they want us to buy this new one. Headrush looperboard on sale!

@Vincenade 3 ай бұрын

OMG😳😳😳 cannot wait to read some comparisons and comments vs Boss RC-600

@appleman515 3 ай бұрын

Same

@gwendolinkirkegaard1812 3 ай бұрын

Tbh they are very similar as far as I can see (I use the RC600). Sure some differences here and there, biggest one is two channels less on the Sheeran one. But all the modes are in the Rc600 as well, it’s just a matter of settings. I just don’t see any reason to switch to the Sheeran one tbh

@user-fd6tg3rn4m 3 ай бұрын

oh funky boys, that thing, gona revolutionise music, great vid boys

@IshaanVashishta95 3 ай бұрын

Danish Pete Supremacy!!! That jam towards the end was Insaneee!!🤘😂

@Yahoomediaclub 3 ай бұрын

Awesome review ❤

@hearmenow909 3 ай бұрын

The Funk track at the end of the video was class.

@jeremytordjman 3 ай бұрын

killer guitar tone from pete !!!

@spiritzweispirit1st638 3 ай бұрын

😳 Super Loopin'🎼🎸 Incredible Product! Great Review' Thank you Lee and Pete and Ed Sheeran!🌐🖖

@rmp5s 3 ай бұрын

Looks awesome!!

@adcharz7105 3 ай бұрын

Much as I love the interface and design of this, £1200 quid for what is ultimately a basic four track looper is something only ed Sheeran could afford! I''d recommend the trio+ with the FS3X control pedal. It's a tenth of the price and you can pretty much do all of this stuff, plus it will generate bass and drums from a guitar track, and supports entire songs with multi parts, transitions, breaks and tempo/style changes with limitless looping. Amazing bit of kit

@PrachurjyaDutta 3 ай бұрын

My thoughts exactly. I have the trio+ and the footswitch and together they can do almost everything this can at a fraction of the price.

@MajesticFuzz 3 ай бұрын

But if this does all your effects well for vocal and guitar as well as harmonies it could be amazing. I can’t wait to see if the harmonies are actually good.

@thomasraven 3 ай бұрын

I like the Trio+ but you're exaggerating - it's 1/3 the price, not 1/10 (in the US at least), and there are tons of things it can't do that this can.

@adcharz7105 3 ай бұрын

Don't get me wrong if I was minted I'd have this in a heartbeat. But Aside from the built in effects I'm a bit confused about the "tons" of things this does that the trio and the FS3X doesn't. I think absolutely this is a better live tool for a solo artist (i.e. Ed) for sure, and way more user friendly, but when you break ot down, its a still a very simple looper pedal for the price of a PC. In comparison my trio was 100 quid from reverb. Just pointing out the law of diminishing returns with this

@jimi272 3 ай бұрын

@@adcharz7105nah, I disagree, maybe for just a guitarplayer it’s just another looper. But for a performer, this makes all of the difference: ed pointed it out in the video he made: as someone like him, you need multiple channels. You need a separate channel for percussion, one for bass, one for synths/guitar, one for vox, panning for stereo image, etc etc… I think it’s way above a trio+ Maybe when comparing to the EHX looper…

@brensocial 3 ай бұрын

Hell ya, I been rockin the looperboard for a couple years now, 100+ shows. Time to upgrade!

@DW-rz2mf Ай бұрын

I could say that the Headrush Looperboard is the better one! I have experience with both of them. The new Sheeran X has a bad midi substitution. And the loop recording is inexplicably altered and distorted. I couldn't fix this even with time correction turned off. Conclusion: Unusable!

@brensocial Ай бұрын

@@DW-rz2mf dang really? Sucks to hear, think maybe they can fix in an update or is it doomed?

@DW-rz2mf Ай бұрын

Well, the updates on Headrush were already underground on the Looperboard. After an update it was over. Customer inquiries were not answered.

@baronhead 3 ай бұрын

100% on board with a firmware update for the "GLOBAL AUDIO ROUTING" - Perfect initial feedback Peter and Team.

@kitgroovemachine 3 ай бұрын

thanks for sharing, loopers arelso great for bringing back loops you have not used for a while.

@Yahoomediaclub 3 ай бұрын

Mr Danish Pete and the Boss are well worth a watch a second time around…even a third … Just can’t go wrong with any of their live. Real time reviews…⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

@davidyoung8875 3 ай бұрын

That final loop was EPIC!!

@sajisguitar 3 ай бұрын

Great video folks! Pete is a genius !!!

@jeffrey.a.hanson 3 ай бұрын

This thing is a beast. I like the pedal and visual design. I love my Digitech Trio+ for simplicity, but with practice this would blow that away.

@cmh6122 3 ай бұрын

You two have way too much fun. I haven't gotten past the Ditto, but this makes me wish I had found one before my physical skills were so diminished.

@JasonShumate 3 ай бұрын

That’s awesome!

@leokrissandy5579 3 ай бұрын

thanks ed sheeran, good stuff you have there

@richardames5215 3 ай бұрын

The Trio+ has drums built in but this does much more. awesome video guys!!!!

@brrblack497 3 ай бұрын

I'm a looper dude and I was hoping this!

@hitnorcal 3 ай бұрын

These two cats always have great chemistry and is so fun to watch.

@BrandonOutside 3 ай бұрын

Dude, that line/phrasing at 2:12 is killer! 🤘🔥

@ManCalledMif 3 ай бұрын

Sick demo tune guys

@cdw9687 3 ай бұрын

No end to Pete's talents.

@DaveOnBass 3 ай бұрын

Great video here - looks awesome :)

@CozBoogie 3 ай бұрын

Seems we all now know why Headrush stopped support to their Looperboard. Hopefully this will reinvigorate them to get back to the Looperboard.

@thecaptainatlas 3 ай бұрын

I would probably never buy this, but I'm glad I checked it out because of that intro jam. 👊🏼

@electrock Ай бұрын

you use rec\dub\play mode to get nice transitions between loop end and loop start - aka recording the "tail". one shot mode means a loop stops after being played once. decay is the "fadeout time" setting of the above.

@dratonbalat3423 3 ай бұрын

I just learned Mary Had A Little Lamb, and I'm watching this and thinking I could use this to enhance my performance😂😂😂😂

@gtmuse329A 3 ай бұрын

I appreciate the routing options. I have done live looping with a drummer and it was essential to be able to send a “loop only” mix to his in-ears, otherwise, once I start loudly soloing, he would lose the sync with the loop. I don’t think I would ever go this crazy on a looper though, as it is not a primary tool in my music.

@jimi272 3 ай бұрын

Can completely relate!

@omegawaves 3 ай бұрын

Nice picture-in-picture editing job there!

@baronhead 3 ай бұрын

Audition Drum Loops! Oh man this is exactly the features on my list.

@nuggers23 3 ай бұрын

Amazing video! I watched it in its entirety in 5 seconds and here's my comment!

@annieo.4779 3 ай бұрын

X got me! (Just ordered one. :) Great video, guys! Great jams!! This thing looks amazing!!

@MaxRayMusic 7 күн бұрын

how did you like it?

@stephencarey6114 3 ай бұрын

Superb

@fenderfox5080 3 ай бұрын

I was literally just looking about a year ago for a multi loop pedal like Ed's, something I could play cover songs with, having a different loop for a chorus or bridge or ending maybe instead of just 1 track looping over and over, I ended up getting the HD 500x because I needed a interface, this thing might go on my list for upgrading my HD down the road. I would love to see someone cover a song with different parts to see how this works

@ashleyjackson8538 3 ай бұрын

Super good quality sounds

@johnelcanrab2114 3 ай бұрын

😂 Yea really classy tone machine is that 😅🎉

@baronhead 3 ай бұрын

FINALLY! I just had bought the Singular Sound Aeros and sent it back within a day. Knew it was not for me instantly. I come from my current looper the Boss RC50 which I had since it's release and never found one better overall. The layout and big spaced out footswitches were a big feature. Just snagged this one from a local sop and can't wait for it to arrive.

@gerimayawhyte154 3 ай бұрын

Hey reply back here when you have some thoughts on it after getting time logged in!

@baronhead 3 ай бұрын

@@gerimayawhyte154 Absolutely. Was planning on a whole bunch of new content when the right looper came.

@davidking7363 3 ай бұрын

What did you not like about the Aeros? I just ordered one along with the MIDI Maestro. The Looper X has 4 tracks with pretty much infinite loops. The Aeros (in 6x6 mode) has 6 tracks with pretty much infinite loops, but you have 6 of these which they refer to as parts so it's a like having 6 individual, 6 track Looper X's. With MIDI Maestro you can customize the way you control it and could copy the workflow of Looper X if you so desired. The Aeros has the most tracks/parts of any looper as far as I know. I'm coming from an RC600 (which I'll hang onto for now in case I'm wrong about Aeros/Looper X). Personally, I think I'd prefer the Looper X over the RC600. Many people feel the RC600 is the best, but I've spent so much time with my head in menus, I just prefer playing vs. being some technical expert reading manuals and deep diving menus. The Looper X is intuitive and more than enough for most people, and the ability to see the waveforms is a plus over the RC600. Looper X simply works and Syncs the way you'd expect. Aeros seems to be similar in that regard. I don't want to have to worry about Quantize, Tempo Sync, S-Track Chg, Loop length Free etc. within the RC600. The go and change it on every track, then try to remember what I've done. The Aeros and Looper X make it simple. I may buy the Looper X too and then see what works best for my workflow. If I do, I'll try to make KZfaq video explain the Pros/Cons of each of these 3 loopers. Bottom line though is I expect they are all very good, it's just a matter of your desired workflow. I'm hoping to have settled on one within the next few weeks.

@baronhead 3 ай бұрын

I rarely need 4 tracks. Been using the RC50 with 3 tracks just fine for years. The areos is also Waaaay to small a footprint for live us IME and just didn't make sense to my brain or needs. I'm sure its amazing for the right person. @@davidking7363

@JohnPaulMusicUK 3 ай бұрын

Wonder if Headrush will update the original Looperboard with the same UI?

@tilmanstablein9255 3 ай бұрын

Nice video, thanks guys!! Would be great to see a comparison between Sheeran looper x, Boss RC 600 and Headrush at some point. 😊✌🏼

@Kozzy_music 3 ай бұрын

Or if you have an ipad, you can buy a 30 dollar app, that can do this and much more, with HQ effects . love the Loopy pro app to bits

@EdwardAlexander-ABF 3 ай бұрын

Came here to say this. I didn’t watch the entire video, but I’d be really surprised if there’s anything this device can do, that can’t be done with Loopy Pro. Throw in a 79 dollar iRig Blue Board for your foot switches, and you’ve got everything!

@christopherrushdudley 3 ай бұрын

I think you just saved me $1299. Gratitude!

@dammers89 3 ай бұрын

One thing i miss from the Rc300 is the big buttons. When I'm at home not wearing shoes i constantly miss the switches. Really like the menus and ease of use options of this

@mattgee4867 3 ай бұрын

Yeah I got the rc300 too and find the buttons too small too. I've put some white felt strips on them to see them better in darker stage settings, but still. Wish they would've used the pedals from the rc30. What I really miss though is an indicator where I'm at in the loop. The Sheeran looper is a beast, but the price, damn..

@jaymax3201 3 ай бұрын

I recently got a nice Line 6 JM4 for $115 and it's great.

@jono_young_music 3 ай бұрын

I got 6 minutes in thinking this is basically a Headrush looperboard🤔 having had the original looperboard for many years, it’s a solid work horse, and having the visuals on the screen is a game changer for looping cues, track levels track bouncing etc. Expensive but worth the money I’m sure.

@forester057 3 ай бұрын

Touch screen menu hell for the iPhone generations. It’s priced where I’d expect for that. It’s cool.

@DjDoggDad 3 ай бұрын

I would love to see a side by side comparison (features to cost) with an app like loopy pro thats already on my phone that i'm watching this video on.

@shield400 3 ай бұрын

The Master Looper Danish Pete!

@chram25 3 ай бұрын

hopefully, we can see a comparison between boss rc 600 and this one!

@scottwilliams3608 3 ай бұрын

Ordered! Would be great to see a demo soon of a multi part song... verse, chorus, bridge, outro. Also, is there any way to have a drum fill or accent? (i currently have beat buddy and that's a nice feature). Also hoping that there's an onboard way to change the bpms of the drum loops you load in. Thanks!!!

@sidpablo 3 ай бұрын

Looks like a very smart independent device

@KennWall 3 ай бұрын

damn you are cooking there in the intro! I want this as a track to listen haha

@johnelcanrab2114 3 ай бұрын

You should find better music to listen to on the back of that comment mate.

@ALBUMHUNTERS Ай бұрын

Love the many xrl's for interfacing each individual track. Will definitely replace the Ditto+ with this. Does it have a master 1/4 inch output to imput into a speaker cab, or just MIDIs and XLR's?

@markcafebrown2883 3 ай бұрын

Looper X looks like a banger

@thomasraven 3 ай бұрын

I'm primarily interested in the free mode because I like making ambient loops that converge and spread over time because the loops are different lengths. The only other way I've found to do this is to build a dedicated looper pedalboard with a bunch of separate looper pedals and all the extra wiring, adapters, cables, etc. that accompanies that.

@davehead34 3 ай бұрын

The Boomerang III can easily do that. You should check it out

@mesadeco1 3 ай бұрын

Just like the looperboard except smaller and different shape switches

@727strat 3 ай бұрын

Please do a video linked to the Katana Mkii. If that can happen - great!

@nuggers23 3 ай бұрын

And gave my like after 30 seconds!

@philfyphil 3 ай бұрын

The person mainly responsible for kicking off the looper in a live situation is Katie Tunstall on Jules Holland.

@seanjohnson7367 3 ай бұрын

No, Jon Brion has been doing it at Largo in LA since the 90s.

@Gefffuhuh 3 ай бұрын

I've had 3 different boss loopers and I would probably go for 505 mkii if I decided to upgrade.

@elyssa.c90 3 ай бұрын

The Sheeran Looper X can be used as a looper or as a roof to your house!

@Tuowinen 3 ай бұрын

Ok this device seems gold. Questions: 1. is there an octaver, and if there is, does it work like Boss OC3 or Boss OC5 that if affect e.g. only the lower strings? 1. how are the vocal effects? does it gave e.g. pop music autotune?

@comiendotrastes3444 3 ай бұрын

Wouldn't it be great if there was a way to connect it to a tablet so you can watch one screen (tracks, for example) on the board and another (say levels) on the tablet?

@stoneysdead689 3 ай бұрын

Man- this is an amazing piece of kit. After you have a track recorded can you then go into the FX block and change the fx, re-amp it, etc.? That way you could lay down all four tracks, go back through and edit each one to find the best fx and amp. I'm sure you can- might need to connect it to a pc though- that's how the MX5 does it. It would be better if you could do it in the unit itself- no need for a pc. I'm still diggin' the mX5- but I've never used the looper. I've had it almost a year now and I've never used it once. There are no drums in it so- kind of kills the looping thing for me if there's no beat. You can still use it for practice though I guess, I probably should. That way I wouldn't have to torture our bass player and drummer the way I do when we're working out a lead break or something. I have to play it 50 times or more to get the timing worked out sometimes- which is literally like torture for them. I could do all that at home with my looper I guess.