People go from Honda Accord to a GT350 and assume the oil is full and never check it.

Here is an easy fix for Ford, have a "low oil warning" notification well before it becomes catastrophic for the owner. Problem solved, a win for both Ford and the customer.

Great video, Ford covered it in the literature. I think it's all about oil vapors, that's why the type of driving effects it. This is why extremely high performance engines run dry sump systems with multiple pick ups and a huge reservoir. This is simply what happens when you make race cars available to the public. Yes oil level is critical, don't learn the hard way.

Lol I forgot about all the gas station warriors ! They have grand stories then get into thier 03 focus or f150

They don’t consume the oil because it’s a flat plane crank! If your going to make a video about a specific issue then you should actually have some of the facts. These consumption issue is due to the lack of tension the pistons rings have in the cylinders. I believe ford has changed the part number on upcoming motors , so they may have the issue resolved. Time will tell. Ford probably should of done something a little different to begin with though. This day and age a car shouldn’t need its oil checked every time it needs fuel. High performance motor or not. My GT350 uses oil but not to the point I’m going to worry about it.

Check your oil. You would not believe how many people never check the oil. I'm talking about sports cars it's crazy. Something I knew to check at 6yr old on my go kart

Running a better oil will solve the consumption issue. If you track the car. Use either pennzoil platinum full synthetic or royal purple full synthetic oil both oils don’t burn off as quickly as other brands and the both have the best wear protection on the market. And also installing a catch can would also help with the oil issue.

The oil pump was another reason 5.0 and 5.2 mustangs blow the engine

I have a 2019 Nissan 370Z sport coupe 6M with about 14K miles on it. During the first 1500 miles I kept the revs below 3500, accelerated gently and varied engine speed as I drove. I also did an early oil change at 500 miles and another early oil change at about 1500 miles before going to a normal 3K mile oil change interval. The result: the engine runs like a finely made swiss watch with virtually no noise and is currently using oil at the rate of about 1 quart per 10K miles. I also sweep the bottom of the oil pan with a telescoping magnet when I do oil changes to try to remove as much of the iron and steel wear particles that have accumulated there.

People really don't check their oil? On a performance engine? No respect

I think it's great that Michael Cera is a car enthusiast.

its the most insane thing i have ever experinenced we have the same ride brotha....its UNREAL how much oil it goes through but long as you know about it and you check pretty much everytime you drive lol your good the SECOND you get into the car and drive it any hard feeling towards its oil comsumtion goes away very quickly its the most amazing sounding car pure smile maker but you aint lying about that oil i got so much oil in my garage its crazy lol but you gotta know what your buying and know what it comes with i made a video on it also as i dont think that many people are aware with the amount of blown engines ive seen but if your insane about checking constantly i havent had any issues only other thing thats happen with my car is TWICE the ac line got to hot and broke second year it happen outside of that car is unreal ill never sell it that one will stay with the family for life enjoy the videos bro keep grinding!

The 12-13 Boss 302 has an amazing engine and sound too! Love the Gt 350 but also love my Boss. As a result I loose some oil as well and have to replace about 1/2 quart roughly ever 2 to 3 months and it’s daily driven. Don’t forget the Boss was built to be a track driven car also, and did pretty well even though it had a live rear axle setup. Great review

Checking the oil level is car maintenance 101. You should be checking it along with tire pressure every week no matter the type of car.

A fresh built NASCAR engine will use 2-3 quarts in a 500 mile race

I believe the harmonics of the engine strain the internal components more overtime than an equivalently sized crossplane engine (like the 5.0 or 5.2 supercharged). Ford had to change the oil filter design from a spin on, to a cartridge design, because the engine shook the spin on design loose. I wouldn't be surprised if the new GT500 proved to be more reliable.

That is what is wrong with most people now they never read the owners maual or take care of the cars. Then always wonder why they have issues, take care of it and it would be good to you.

Roundy rounders have been turning 7000 to 8000 rpm for decades with a small block.

Mine was verified to consume 1 quart every 125 miles, by my local dealer. I got a new engine, if the second motor eats oil they will buy it back and I’ll head back to Porsche 911. It started to consume oil at 8k miles. All compression, leak down and dye tests were normal. Ford really ought to address this in a public manner.

I hear a lot of them having rod knock I assume bad rod bearings probably due to the high rpm and the crank on a flat plane is not very good for vibration which causes premature failure.

Corey Feldman?

Fingers crossed for you on the GT!

So true. Good Video 👍🏼 no worries with the 2016 GT350

interesting... but false info. I checked my oil at every fillup, and it started not using oil, but by 5500 miles it started using up to 1 quart every 120 miles. Ford replaced the motor in February 2019 the cause was "excessive oil consumption" currently the new motor is not using oil. the issues seemed to show up worse in the MY 2017 cars more that others. the bore scope pictures on my 2017 GT350 showed cylinder wall damage in #1, #2 and #3, #2 showed Ring failure and glazed cylinder walls. To correct the guys Video, it comes down to break in procedure.. read the manual on break in and follow it. for the first few hundred miles, do not let it idle for extended periods, do not use cruise control, vary the RPMS, don't baby it but don't hit redline until a few hundred miles.

I know this has been said already but crank causing oil loss? Where do you think the oil goes? Loose bearings it'll still just run back into the pan... Large ring gap is most likely the cause, which is odd because hellcats and zl1s use oil but they run larger gapped rings for the boost. More boost/nitrous you run the more ring gap. But the gt350 being n.a. shouldn't be gapped so much. But nice car though and cool to see you actually drive it like it's meant to be

I check the oil in my 08 GT500 once a week and after i drive like a teenager.

So loose clearances or not, where does the oil go? It gets burned. Is it possible to to a harder engine break in and seat the piston rings better and lessen this oil consumption? I did this with my camaro and I don’t believe it has any oil consumption issues. I could be wrong though

My gt350 just blown yesterday, meticulously maintained and checked the oil pretty well every time before I would go for a ride.

The blocks were bad in the 1st gen Ford supposedly fixed it in later models.. sad to spend that much and wait for the $17000 engine. The real reason the filter can come loose is the crossplane crank has internal vibration issues. Ford built a race car for the street but requires alot of maintenence that the average person wont do.

Very informative!! Thank you!

Question, should I buy a 2017 Shelby gt350 with 25,000 miles? The more I read the more I wonder if I should. This Shelby is being sold at a dealership

Some drivers just flat out abuse these cars. They over boost the block which overextends the capabilities of the actual platform. Listen, you cant expect a 80K car too preform like a 200k car. You get what you actually pay for.Treat it as such and you will love the results.

I had an old Chevy in college that used a quart a week. What’s the big deal? LOL!

Great video. Great Mustang. Thanks for sharing

I love my Chevy Big Block 🇺🇸.... 496cid... 1.7hp per cid... have had it in a 69 Nova & a 69 Chevelle.... I swapped the cam once for a little bigger one when comp cams came out with a new line... it went to 7200-7400rpm regularly and it never uses any oil...

I qt every 500 miles?!?!?!? WTF ! My ZL1 is a trackcar and eats gas and tires but not oil

Badass ride bro, thank you.

Not the end of the world as per American car manufacturer standards a quart every 500 miles. Could be worse if that’s the only issue with the gt 350 then so be it. Definitely the coolest mustang to date.

This does make a lot of sense. I check my 2017 gt350 oil level at least once a week or more, especially after driving higher up in the rpm’s.

Great content, how many miles so far?

95% of all mechanical issues are abuse or maintenance related but owners are quick to blame the vehicles and not themselves, not all vehicles are maintained or operated the same so it is up to us to learn and operate them accordingly.

Every powerful engine I've ever had used oil. What will help is a dropped oil pan so your crank is not whipping it up into the bottom of the cylinders and flooding the rings.....I'm saying this unless the Shelby uses a dry sump (which would be a lot better for everything, especially track use) and would better serve the engine at high rpm's. Even then, certain tolerances in this engine will have to be opened up, due to the heat it will experience and the rpm's it operates at.... If it has forged pistons, like the engines I have built, the top end will generally be set up looser due to more expansion of the forged pistons.

My daily 600wheel 11 tvs 5.0 burns 2.5 quarts every 1k miles. It spins 7200rpm like a swiss watch. It burns oil more when i drive it hard. Ford used low tension rings for decreased friction and more power. I check oil weekly. Not a big deal. Blows no smoke and runs great at 94k miles. Destroys clutches though cause its set up for drag but driven as a daily driver pump gas machine

Take care of your equipment an it will take care of you.😁

GREAT VIDEO. AND VERY INFORMATIVE. IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO THIS--- COMMON SENSE !! GOD BLESS!!! 😎🙏🇺🇸 THANKS FOR YOU HARD WORK AND YOUR VALUABLE TIME. LATER!

If u run mobile 1 or amsoil u will not have any oil burning issues. If u have piston slap then it will drink oil.

The owners manual for my BMW E 46 M3 says it's normal because of the engine tolerances for this vehicle to use a quart of oil every 500 miles. Red line was 8200 like you're talking about that's why

It's a ford furnace....1gt/500 mi is burning oil

How many miles do you have on your gt350? And how many miles per quart is your car burning oil? Has the burn rate changed at all over the 3 years? I do have a 17 gt350 and I just found out mine is burning oil too.

how much did the car cost you . was there dealer mark up thanks

What happened to the Fail-Safe for the oil low cut off?

Thank you sir. I am looking for a used GT350 and was worried about this issue

I have a 17 Gt350. It’s at the Ford dealer now waiting for Ford to get involved. It’s consuming one quart or oil every 157 miles.

Part of the reason is Motorcraft oil is bottom of the barrel Connoco Phillips crap 💩! I’d be running Amsoil if it was my car !

Like your style, Speed. Your commentaries helped convinced me to buy a GT350...I convinced myself to buy an 'R'! 500 miles from new. I don't mind keeping an eye on the oil level. Will be rather pissed if JR551 (build date May 2018) blows up, though I surely don't abuse cars. At least it's under warranty for years. I do NOT, however, believe from any credible source there is a clear root cause analysis for why this happens to various 350/350R....YET.

do they hold 10 qts. like the regular gts?guess you gotta buy 3 jugs at a time.

Sad to say my gt350 motor had blown but the Ford dealership took good care of me and I traded it in for a car that was limited the Dodge demon

I'm having a hard time taking this seriously

Neve another American muscle car built like the GT350! Good luck on the GT!!!

You guys really believe this crap? obviously there's a ring/piston issue, or could possibly even be valve issues not sealing oil properly, but I think it's a poor piston ring design and 8250 rpm has nothing to do with oil consumption. 4 stroke dirt bikes rev from 11 000 rpm to 14 000 rpm and don't consume oils, street bike revs over 14 000 rpm and they don't consume oil. my procharge 3v gt revs 7800 rpm makes 771 whp and doesn't consume oil. I really wanted to to buy a gt350 next year..... but I guess I'll pass. Now is this harmful for the engine having high oil consumption. Yes and no, if there's too much it will gum up valves, start fouling plugs and eventually might result in low compression and excessive blow by, but it doesn't mean the engine will blow up in thousand pieces, but it means in a few more KM the engine needs to come out and you will need to replace or pay someone to replace all piston rings, and hone the cylinders. to get the engine to seal properly again and so far looking at all the excessive oil consumption problems, they happen around 30 000 to 50 000 miles so every 2 - 3 years. that is pretty sad. Only thing that might get me to buy this car is if an aftermarket company makes aftermarket piston and rings that have a better seal then OEM. Good luck on your top end rebuild. it is coming

Because of the crap MC oil in most of the Voodoo engines.

I dont track mine but it's got 6K miles on it and I ream the hell out of it. no oil consumption at all.

A 10 minute video about the need to check your oil is something I'd expect from a mustang owner. Like you needed to devote that much time to this as if it's some sort of eye opener. Didn't put the oil filter on tightly enough? Really? Couldn't manage that 20 ft-lbs, huh? Gotta look out for that one lol. Fuck's sake. I see a mustang and think clown immediately. This is part of the reason why.

As a direct comparison, I just recently went on a road trip with my 17 Whipple GT and my friends 17 GT350. We drove 7000km from Alberta, Canada down to San Diego, back up the coast and home. Along the way there was many times on the beautiful Interstates that we did some hard roll racing and pulls. When we made it back home I had used maybe 1/2 a quart of oil. He used 3 in his 350.

As a buyer potentially looking at buying one of these cars, is it safe to say not to get one without warranty?

People blow their engines with 500, 700, 1k miles. That's unacceptable

I love these cars and yes it’s kept me from buying one. I have a E93 M3 V8 revs to 8400. Burns NO oil. I have lots of other cars they burn no oil. I have a V8 panamera Turbo it burns a little bit if driven very hard. But it’s 130k miles. Love the GT350 and might go for it. I believe it the best mustang ever made and probably ever will be made. Cheers boys.

New cars nowadays have far better tolerances than in decades past thus lower oil consumption. I thought the days of new cars consuming oil were gone. Apparently not with this one.

Pop the hood, see that dipstick? Pull it and Check your oil....what an amazing concept 😑 too bad most people need a light or something to tell them what’s going on. Oh nooo let’s blame the car for owners negligence...

I have a supercharged gt350. Built originally by Hennessey - has the HPE 850 package. But worked and tuned by DBR High Perf and Lund Perf. Mine consumes oil. Had a discussion about that with some folks and thought maybe it had to do with the blower. Maybe partly, but it’s that high rev. The oil, so I’ve heard (no expert here) gets by the rings because unless you are shifting at a high RPM consistently, the rings aren’t necessarily sealing. Even regular track use, you still street drive it and I assume most of use hear the absolute screaming and short shift. I do. I know I do. And I consume oil. I know that too. So I check my oil....ALL THE TIME.

I was a Mustang/'71-'73 Cougar fan for 40+ years. My experience was wrapped around 302 and 351-C engines, inc. both 2 & 4 bbl heads. 50 years of being an enthusiast and a DIY'er tells me that no engine consuming oil at a rate of more than 1 qt every few thousand miles, would be acceptable to me! Period! Ever! Furthermore, I would build for a particular rpm redline and derate that by a thousand rpms as a safety factor. This engine is clearly overrated and the owners can't seem to recognize it. IMO, 450-500 hp in a street car is way more than enough and anymore is insanity. I'm beyond all that stuff these days. My "toy" is my 2013 Challenger R/T Classic w/6 speed. I don't race and my insurance is dirt cheap.

What I want to know where did he get his harness from. 2017 uses only 1/4 quart for two track day., but I have change oil and filter after three months or half the driving season.

2018-2022 mustang GT with an e85 tune shifts at 7500-7800… Gt350 shifts at 8000-8200 and engines use oil like crazy and explode more then they run good… why the hell would you want a $50-$80k paper weight….

This is one of the reasons I sold my Shelby GT350. I went on a long tour/rally of Switzerland and Austria in mine (2k miles total). I brought along 5 quarts of oil. I drove the piss out of the car all through the Alps. Mine consumed all 5 quarts 3/4 through the event and I still needed to finish and get home. Luckily some of the guys on the rally gave me a few quarts so I was saved. Still after that I was pissed at the car and sold it. Now I heard Ford will replace the engine if its consuming as much oil as mine was. Thats ok I wouldn't want it without the original engine anyway.

There's just no way I could pay this much for a car and it use oil like that.

Two words: Extended Warrany 😉 BTW... My GT350 doesn't consume oil nearly as fast as either of my old E90 M3's

Theres another YTer this has the same issue. DarkDynasty mention this is his podcast

Ive got a 16. Never lost a drop yet. Hader over 250kph.

catastrophic failure on a dam new “race car” doesn’t really generate confidence in spending over $65k.

Hey Speed Phenom. I noticed your airbag light is on, as is mine. It came on around 1000 miles. I have 4000 now. Any insight on it? Have you had the dealer look at it?

My 98 Ford Escort can go 5000 miles and doesn’t use a drop of oil but it only has like 100 hp. Also I have no idea what the redline is, I don’t even have a tach. It will do over 100 mph though I have confirmed that 😂. Sweet car but that oil consumption would freak me out a bit. Seems like the nature of the beast.

7:28 YT Speed Phenom window decal. PoPo sees that, then you're not going to get the benefit of the doubt when you get pulled over.

it's not just oil consumption. The engine literally can pop gaskets and the oil filter off

I’ve been busting wrenches for 60 years. I wish young non mechanics with not busted knuckles would stop offering bad advice. It’s well known that the GT350 up to 2019 had oil issues. It had nothing to do about driver input. You look pretty young but rich to run the vast release of info. No hard time building or fixing !

Just bought a 2013 GT500 sold my 2009 love your channel ..I’m gonna Kenne Bell and build the motor !!!

hey man.... its scott z,, i am the one that just recently purchaced my 2017 gt350.. i am loving the car soooo much. Unfortunatly it has been super cold here in chicagoland so driving it has been minimal.. Thanks for the good content about the 350,,, its very good to get any advise that i get with having one of these GEMS!! Question,, mine only has 550 miles on it, and i am pretty sure it is the factory oil from 2017.. now i know alot about cars but with this being a totally different platform , do you think I should have the oil changed( my friend is a master mechanic), so he helps me out with things like this, but with you owning one i think you are probably the best person to ask for me.. GOTTA LOVE HAVING THIS TECHNOLOGY these days yo be able to talk with someone like yourself! 20 years ago i would have been on my own,, or having to TRUST a dealership( NOOOO) for answers.. Let me know what you think buddy,,, Scott Z

R u related to Doug by chance? U sound just like him

Nice! It sounds almost like a Mercedes Benz AMG

What I never understood was why didn't Ford put a shift light in that crazy complicated gauge package. I'm mean really you can know head cylinder temp but no shift light on a 8200rpm motor. My Honda si had one. My $15000+ over the honda GT and the gt350 does not. Makes no sense

Honestly I really want the GT350R with back seats, supercharger, bigger brakes, and a warranty.

Ty

Doese the gt350 have the same issues like the reg gt doese with the bbq ticks and piston sleeves i believe it is.

The problem is you do not have a cache can on the passenger (dirty) side

Chain your grade oil don't keep to just one some work better for your car engine your oil has gone off that is why.

hey im looking into buying a gt350r 2019 what do you think is a good deal example sticker or how much below?, i used to have a gt350 17 i paid invoice for it.

what year do you have?

Hes a modern day mouth from goonies hey you guys 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I have heard that some of the guys tracking/driving spirited go up to 5W50 weighted oil and it becomes much less an issue. Dunno from personal experience, but from guys I do trust

excuse me 1qt/500 mi.....still an oil burner

Here's another tip, don't use motorcraft.