Shield Shifting - Universal Ultimate Tech

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It was brought to my attention that ‪@JforJonas‬ posted Shield Shifting on twitter with Link boomerang in 2020! Go subscribe to his channel! He has a ton of really good videos on ult tech!
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In Smash Ultimate, when you move your shield around it shifts your hurtbox. If you buffer this in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, the full hurtbox shift happens in 1 frame. You can also use this to avoid getting grabbed OOS / make parrying multi-hits easier. Shield Shifting has a lot of unique applications!
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Chapters:
00:00 - Buy my Merch ty
00:43 - Sub to Smash U!
00:55 - Tech Preview
02:07 - Context
02:19 - Shout outs Shanoa
02:27 - Shield Shifting Explanation
04:37 - Character Specific Examples
05:22 - Funny ROB thing
05:38 - Parrying Multhits
05:59 - Turn on Notifications ty!
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@GimR 8 ай бұрын

It was brought to my attention that youtube.com/@JforJonas posted shield shifting on twitter with link boomerang in 2020! Go subscribe to his channel! He has a ton of really good videos on ult tech!

@Aatugo 8 ай бұрын

I had to sub for multiple reasons! 1. The intro was epic. 2. Info was straight to the point and descriptive! 3. The back to the lab again from Dexter! 4. You gave some credit of where it came from! Speaks numbers on you as an individual and character. Subbed and notifications on dude. Thanks.

@m47musix 8 ай бұрын

wait till they find out you can sdi with your own multihits

@ShanoaSSB 8 ай бұрын

Whoa, I didn't expect to get jumpscared by myself in this video LOL Excited to see more people potentially abusing this, lots of interesting ideas shown here that I need to look into making use of too 🤔

@bobatea4732 8 ай бұрын

thanks for the idea!

@NemSumeragi 8 ай бұрын

Shanoa Jump Scare

@Tomfoolery_Inc. 8 ай бұрын

this feels like one of those things that we could’ve known from day one but simply missed out on somehow 😂

@AbjectPermanence 8 ай бұрын

Shield shifting has been known since day 1. This video isn't describing a new discovery, it's explaining how this thing we always knew about might be more useful than we realize.

@aisuiro.cellist 8 ай бұрын

@@AbjectPermanencesure shield shifting has been known but no one has been using it in this way for this purpose so it might as well be a new discovery lol

@Creepo_J 8 ай бұрын

Bringing deeper awareness to stuff we already know and why it matters

@Saskaruto16 8 ай бұрын

People who played other smash games know a lot of this stuff, it's just both that there are a lot of new players with Ult and that things like this are very character dependent. I would assume most character specialists at high level know this kind of thing about their characters, it's just the average player might not.

@HaramLobo 8 ай бұрын

It is not a new discovery using in that way. I’m a Link main and people on Link discord already did this 3 years ago.

@vvlaze 8 ай бұрын

Man, shielding with two buttons is seeming pretty useful but will definitely take a hot second to get used to.

@liquidmiilk7764 8 ай бұрын

Or shield and b

@tyler94flynn 8 ай бұрын

That's still shielding with two buttons lmao

@gapplssb 8 ай бұрын

@@tyler94flynn much easier than shielding with both triggers, oof.

@liquidmiilk7764 8 ай бұрын

@glhf5525 oh yeah 🤣

@wits_end. 8 ай бұрын

I already made ZL and L both as shield. So this is will be a big boon for me. But for gamecube controller users.. oof.

@Jkarlowski2 8 ай бұрын

The fact that rob is so big that instead of shifting away he has to push enemies away is hilarious.

@JforJonas 8 ай бұрын

This is extremely useful for Link as his boomerang practically autospaces the move for him. I made a video on it on Twitter 3 years ago and has been implemented by several strong Link players already. One thing I mentioned in that video is how you can option select optimal DI if they have quick enough OoS. A great example is Link vs. G&W where an unspaced boomerang -> shield shift away lets you avoid grab and make you avoid any follow-up if they go for an Up B. Loving this series so far. Looking forward to the next episode!

@jaybee3960 8 ай бұрын

for any of the Melee heads, this works in Melee too you just buffer the shield tilt without holding both triggers (rolls don't buffer in that game) it can make Marth impossible to grab for some characters

@danielsmith5032 8 ай бұрын

I didn't know Diddy Kong's forward smash was so beautifully animated too!

@Nekotaku_TV 8 ай бұрын

Haha, so many good animations in Smash, slowing down all of them is amazing.

@im_Spade_ 8 ай бұрын

This actually seems....really useful. Especially since I main Yink and those options were pointed out right to me 👀

@catandfishfc 8 ай бұрын

It's Minecart into down-air

@robezharvey8475 8 ай бұрын

god no please

@dogyX3 8 ай бұрын

Wait, Steve can shield shift?

@slamkam07 8 ай бұрын

Who cares. No one wants to play against him or watch people play him.

@CommentPositionInformer 8 ай бұрын

@@slamkam07 As it turns out, you don't have a choice.

@CommentPositionInformer 8 ай бұрын

@@dogyX3 I would be really surprised if he did, given his "animations".

@Tonjit41 8 ай бұрын

Shout outs to the long lost soldier, ShanoaSSB. What a chad.

@unclen2479 8 ай бұрын

Techmas once again not disappointing. Great work Gimr

@spackmoose6002 8 ай бұрын

This seems pretty big, ngl. I'll try to incorporate this into my play

@Baguetteling 8 ай бұрын

Good thing Donkey Kong's able to DSC Up-B every move shown in the beginning!

@wits_end. 8 ай бұрын

This is so good wth. I hate getting shield grabbed when going on the offense. I am definetely utilizing this. Unpunished point blank boomerang is crazy. Thanks GiMR👏👏👏

@GimR 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching, see ya tomorrow for Day 4! Get ya merch here: spif.space/gimr

@robezharvey8475 8 ай бұрын

Godspeed🫡

@omnomgamer8633 8 ай бұрын

I AM DEVASTATED. there is exactly 1 character in the game that cannot do this. my main, YOSHI.

@franztunda9566 8 ай бұрын

You should stop busy bragging, it's starting to sound too pathetic...

@Shmicah1235 8 ай бұрын

This is actually super cool, insanely simple, and seems really damn effective

@FallenKiwiCFP 8 ай бұрын

I think this is the most interesting tech seen in Techmas, because in my opinion it can lead to realistic situations outside competitive, like playing with your cousin and surprising them with this tech because it isn't even that hard

@MichaelBond 8 ай бұрын

I always noticed you could move your shield around in all the Smash games, but never knew if it actually did anything.

@SSJPENGUIN 8 ай бұрын

In melee it's really important because it's easier to get shield poked but I'm really surprised to see how significant it can be in Ultimate!!!

@Choochinc 8 ай бұрын

It's meant as a way to prevent shield poking. Just because you have a shield up, doesn't mean you can't still be hit. If your foot is outside of your shield bubble, and your opponent hits your foot without hitting your shield, it will count as a hit. Shield shifting would allow you to move your shield to cover your foot to prevent that scenario. This was super important in Melee when many characters had terrible shields that left large parts of their bodies exposed.

@leaffinite2001 8 ай бұрын

Its used for shield pokes BUT also shifting your sheild to allow an approaching aerial to hit it earlier will allow you to exit shield stun and react sooner

@venture2056 8 ай бұрын

awesome! glad you're helping make this be more widely known. @JforJonas did a video on Link shield shifting after boomerang a while ago, but don't think too many people know about this tech generally.

@GimR 8 ай бұрын

yeah someone just pointed it out to be on twitter. Just gave him a shout out!

@JforJonas 8 ай бұрын

@@GimR And thanks a lot for that! A pinned comment or link in the description would also be awesome as I go into even more benefits from this tech as well.

@olbluelips 8 ай бұрын

Ahh I never realized that shield tilting shifts your hurtbox, but it makes sense! Buffering it to dodge a grab is a crazy bait

@theunderlord5034 8 ай бұрын

If only this tech worked on pac-man's grab 💀

@Spyder-Marth 8 ай бұрын

The Pac is Maning up

@vvlaze 8 ай бұрын

Pac God perserveres

@mweepbeep1128 8 ай бұрын

Let's see what we get today, thank you Gimr for providing these, I think that this is a great way to add depth to the game and make it in some cases better for everyone. Unless it has anything to do with Steve.

@AcidArmy_ 8 ай бұрын

😐

@Hack--rz1io 8 ай бұрын

This stech works with almost everyone but Steve lol

@igirjei3717 8 ай бұрын

Little did he know lmao

@james4401- 8 ай бұрын

@@igirjei3717What happened?

@morganbruno3252 8 ай бұрын

I may have found another variation of this, that being holding the opposite direction during a move so your character turns around. Roy, for example, seems to benefit more from this as his feet move out of the way and his shield hold doesn’t shift him much.

@d.s.alcoda 8 ай бұрын

I think that does add one frame of turnaround before your shield comes out, so technically 1 frame less safe But probably still worth it for many chars, especially if you have a good bair OOS

@Carlisho 8 ай бұрын

This one seems like it could be one of the most impactful things to this game’s competitive scene and its just one of the short videos 😂

@wits_end. 8 ай бұрын

simple yet effective👌

@atari_hmb 8 ай бұрын

This is what I was hoping for Gimr. I talked about how melee always wanted to evolve their game. You came just in time and I appreciate you providing new applications for players on how they can mix up some of the neutral game and additional interactions. Thanks for your contribution to the community

@Ed_AlphA 8 ай бұрын

You can do this against falcon's side b to make it way less safe on shield and shield grab it everytime

@proballa27 8 ай бұрын

this one's cool! not meta breaking but a nice little optimization, there's really no reason not to implement it in situations where you would shield anyways

@ThereIsNoSpoon678 8 ай бұрын

This literally looks like magic. Like, when someone goes “no way that hit!!” But if you know the actual janky size of that specific hit box, then it’s understandable. Now… you could be in a ditto match, be both shielding at the same time, take turns grabbing, and only one actually works.

@dieblauebedrohung 8 ай бұрын

This will definitely elevate my barely safe Little Mac Attacks!

@dextra_24703 8 ай бұрын

So now we have DI before getting hit, that's crazy.

@SSAndroid 8 ай бұрын

Shift’s about to hit the fans Finally an interesting reason to use shield shifting. “Safe on shield”s back on the menu for many

@8CanadianBacon9 8 ай бұрын

Simple yet so incredibly effective. Thank you for showing off this tech

@scronchlad2197 8 ай бұрын

"Some characters move very little, and others move A LOT" And then there's Mr. Game and Watch.

@Third_ 8 ай бұрын

I love that as a very new player, I am astonished by the fact I didnt know you could double shield to shift it around, and as a G&W main Im completely exasperated that this really means nothing for my main. God why am I doing this to myself I should really pick a different character aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

@despa2336 8 ай бұрын

crazy that we're beating paper with rock lol

@igirjei3717 8 ай бұрын

Wow that's really great lmao

@Typ3_alpha 8 ай бұрын

wait, this is nuts

@Nekotaku_TV 8 ай бұрын

I'll never be good enough to do one frame stuff. Ultimate still has so much we haven't learned about yet, just like with every Smash.

@PrestoJacobson 7 ай бұрын

But you can do this. Holding 2 shield buttons so you don't roll or spotdodge, (when you're done attacking or whatever) and hold direction (like left in the video) to shift that way. Buffered after your attack, etc.

@Nekotaku_TV 7 ай бұрын

@@PrestoJacobson I don't understand the buffer system.

@planetary-rendez-vous 8 ай бұрын

This is absolutely broken... You could hug your opponent and aggressively pressure them. Match-up dependent though.

@SpVwn6 8 ай бұрын

Meanwhile yoshi is just an egg lmao

@bruh-qx1qi 8 ай бұрын

This will definitely be useful with lots of practice. I know a lot of people like to argue that tech isnt that important in this game and while that may be somewhat true you can’t deny this is gonna be pretty useful

@restindev 8 ай бұрын

Grimey, I kinda like it though

@tohitarmorclass0846 8 ай бұрын

It's so obvious it's incredible this hasnt been explored more by this point. I remember playing with jiggling shields early in the game and it just kind of got forgotten about

@bboyposeidondw 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for finding this shit out because it happens so often just playing alone!!! It’s crazy how many grabs you miss when you right in somebody’s face

@TheMasterLinkT 8 ай бұрын

a hoodie in the shower is diabolical

@dodge2206 8 ай бұрын

Teachmas actually making me better

@jebstuart3162 8 ай бұрын

I love the ad at the beginning, it's a perfect parody

@FirstLast-mn4re 8 ай бұрын

"Universal" Yoshi mains on suicide watch.

@DarkThomy 8 ай бұрын

The real Christmas present isnt the techs coming each day, it's discovering if it could actually apply to your poor low/mid tiers main..!

@JDL4 8 ай бұрын

The GIMZ always WINZ

@aidenzorn8322 8 ай бұрын

As a fox enjoyer with a bowser main friend, 1:24 was all too familiar to me

@oscarcalles4117 8 ай бұрын

Tweek watching this for sure

@zombiebomb8523 8 ай бұрын

GimR coming back with that juicy mix of entertainment and viability

@aisuiro.cellist 8 ай бұрын

How good is Palutena’s hurtbox shifting during this? I want to practice it because she relies a lot on falling aerials and if she could do them even safer on shield that would be incredible

@jackwei7785 8 ай бұрын

Can we do aerials into shield shifting? In the video, Gimr only shows grounded moves into shield shifting.

@leafofufo3264 8 ай бұрын

I’ve been doing this for over a year… why did you tell them!?!?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

@inediblemangoes7797 8 ай бұрын

This was sick. Really enjoying the series!

@Moist_E 8 ай бұрын

He's giving out ALL OUR SECRETS FUHHH

@Syper7 8 ай бұрын

I always thought I was grabbing the shield

@rawnchie 8 ай бұрын

I don't play anymore but watching the new tech is still neat ❤

@johnlucas1624 8 ай бұрын

This is super interesting! I could see this getting lots of use very quickly. Great work GimZ

@theargawalathing 8 ай бұрын

Definitely gonna have to rework my controls to optimize all these shield techs

@PrestoJacobson 8 ай бұрын

Really useful, thank you; and kinda combos into your Parry Shifting video at the end!!

@konniem.6709 8 ай бұрын

that's actually huge

@itsaname7448 8 ай бұрын

This is great for Kazuya, thank you

@supple_hotdog8264 8 ай бұрын

This feels legitimately useful

@beckettc6027 8 ай бұрын

Love this video!

@georgethegreat3114 8 ай бұрын

thanks esam

@Junr_7 8 ай бұрын

So good for gnw

@kabey8 8 ай бұрын

Does Yoshi shield shift? Like his shield does not shift, but does he shift inside the egg ? Cauz, they might have implemented an animation for the egg and disabled the poke, but I am curious about the character inside the egg

@musketg2774 8 ай бұрын

I wonder if this is going to be disproportionally helpful to those with tether grabs, as they can use it to their benefit but largely ignore it if used against them

@kalarse 8 ай бұрын

Yoshi mains in shambles (?)

@wits_end. 8 ай бұрын

Yoshi mains never get shield poked. That's the big benefit of his shield. Also, Yoshi's fmash already pulls back so far to avoid hits. You can just jab 1 into fsmash.

@Takujaki 8 ай бұрын

Most shieldgrabs are 10 frames, so a -9 frame move on shield is now safe?

@andrewkennedy8129 8 ай бұрын

this isn’t game changing to me at least but this is another whiff punish option that adds more depth to the game very cool!

@mcrsmash8319 8 ай бұрын

Ok this one might actually change the meta

@AndreBabani 8 ай бұрын

this is just head movement in boxing

@Lampaluile 8 ай бұрын

Good way to get shieldpoked too !

@Il_Dilettante 8 ай бұрын

watching this as if i don't play yoshi

@citizenofhyrule 8 ай бұрын

yoo christmas indeed, this is tech i can handle on my level of play

@mitchelvivatson947 8 ай бұрын

Thats the best so far

@FerousFolly 8 ай бұрын

Finally, a nerf to shielding

@cameronwarttig1732 8 ай бұрын

Might use this

@Connell843 8 ай бұрын

Please, a sweatshirt with a slightly bigger logo 🙏

@Spyder-Marth 8 ай бұрын

Marth gonna go crazy! His OOS were already good but these Gimr techs are making him more busted. I can land safe aerials without spacing and bait & punish so many options now, hehehe.

@igirjei3717 8 ай бұрын

Could already do that, -4 aerials having ass (can't even be punished by your own up-b (not privileged at all (I also main marth for the record lmao)))

@Spyder-Marth 8 ай бұрын

@@igirjei3717 With this tech in the video we can just shield shift after hitting our opponent's shield, watch them whiff, then hit them. This isn't a matter of if they use a -4 aerial to punish us. My comment is moreso about us baiting them out to pressure them. Even if our opponent uses something like -4, we can still punish it after a parry unless it is super spaced out and disjointed (like Cloud Bair, although it is -3 for some reason). The main thing we should be doing though is punishing what are opponent does *after* they use a super safe aerial. Do they use a rising aerial? Marth can punish that. Do they try to shield? Marth can punish that (just watch out for the shield shifting mix up lol). Do they immediately jump? Marth can punish that. It's something use Marths have to live by. We still have top tier defense but we need to use it right.

@igirjei3717 8 ай бұрын

@@Spyder-Marth You rite, you rite. I was just joking about how safe our moves are in the first place

@outsideboxer1448 8 ай бұрын

LMFAO the beginning is a banger

@BezarBone 8 ай бұрын

hopefully it helps with pichu and those giant ears

@zakali7006 8 ай бұрын

*Crys in yoshi😢

@louismensinger 8 ай бұрын

How does this work on Yoshi? Does he shield shift in his egg?

@godslayerbiotch43 8 ай бұрын

he doesnt, yoshi has no access to this tech

@brysonmcfaull1218 8 ай бұрын

People be like 'ultimate has bad hurtbox programming' but it's exploits like these that make hurtbox shifting such a fun aspect to explore in ultimate