SMT 2 basically, punching, kicking & shooting

Everytime we kill a literal god we have our friends with us...... Except when we pick the TDE ending and other solo routes hahaha

And for someone like me... This kinda shit is therapy. .u.

Maybe the real God was in the friendships we made along the way.

@@AegisAuras i like to believe that too someday

you only fight him twice in all of smt.

@@megamike15 newish to smt. I thought you face him in smt 2,3, and here. Was kagutsuchi God?

@@NobleAbsinthe kagusuchi is an aspect of god. a piece that broke off.

@@megamike15 oh OK, I guess that makes sense. Sorry been a while since I played nocturne. All I remember is punching a giant face in the sky after killing all my friends.

@@NobleAbsinthe You also fight him in Megaten 2

Holy shit, really?!

@@thestarfromyugioh yeah, William Salyers

@@zaqareemalcolm Damn, that man is ridiculously blessed

Oh shit, I just remembered he also voiced Reverend Rod Putty in _Moral Orel._ Went from voicing a worshipper to God to straight up God Himself

"YHVH! LUCIFER! IF YOU DON'T CLEAN UP TOKYO BY THE TIME I GET BACK, YOU'RE FIRED!"

Memes aside I do feel like Gaston completely freaking Roasted YHVH. He had the best banter.

*NO ONE

@@Don_Akane89 you are correct sorry editing now

in my opinion, the denials are all bad. completely short-sighted and completely ignoring God's true character, not to mention promoting ideas that would lead to a terrible, terrible world.

Christopher Bravo yeah we should just smile and nod whenever God delivers plagues or floods the world or drops meteors on cities because they don’t want to be shackled into spiritual slavery. Imagine reading the Bible and even coming to the assumption that Jehovah isn’t a huge asshole. We must be reading different books.

I mean, Altus has been making SMT since the early 90s. It’s just that it wasn’t localized til Nocturne (SMT 3), and that one just flew under the radar of evangelists. I’m sure if they new it would’ve made national news lol. Even now SMT still flies under the radar.

@World Denizen It's people like you that craft people who despise religion. If you weren't so far up your ass sinning the sin of Pride, embracing the poison of modern pop religion rather then the investigative roots of science, the art of understanding, which started with religion, your churches would be more full. People haven't lost faith in god, just you. You are untrustworthy, evangelist, greedy for attention and purpose.

A Pokémon game brought me here.

@World Denizen Hello brother. You're doing God's work well. Keep your spirit up.

@World Denizen Dude, you have my support. I also despise parts of the series, that make you go against YHVH. So you're not alone here.

Wait, are you serious, buddy?

Yep Rigby and Yhvh have the same VA

@@asuratakehaya6884 ...omg

Great, I can never unsee this now

This is actually hilarious

More a reference to how intentionally impossible to pronounce God's name is (just chucked this into Google Translate, it's spelled out by letter) YHWH, and as YHVH is a corruption of Commander Benevolence and Power (as seen by a good few lines in the fight) so too would the name.

The pronounciation is a lost knowledge. So anything is suitable as the true sound of the name is no longer known. Sides, when describing a entity like this I think having a name that is odd is quite fitting.

Yahweh is the closest approximation we've got, but it really is unknowable. The record scratching could also be in reference to it being taboo amongst many jews to say God's true name, hence why YHWH or Yahweh is avoided, and why he is often also refered to as simply the Hebrew word for god/gods elohim. I may be misremembering stuff though.

@@lizardirl9488 See, that was my first guess as to what that was-more like a cosmic censor bleep than an expression of eldritch incomprehensibility.

@@lizardirl9488 no that's spot on. It was considered so sacred it became taboo to just casually say his name out loud. yhwh is the closest thing we have to how it's spelt but we don't even officially know how it's pronounced because of how much Jewish traditions avoided the name

Nanashi has to BLJ to kill God

@@Cosplaybuddygiraffes But first, we need to talk about Parallel Game Cycles

Backwards long jumps ahoy

“Ah, I see you’ve chosen to go back two steps, Nanashi. That means you want to rejoin me, right?”

I mean, the staircase is already big as fuck

So that's why people take final as the black ship.

It has friendship

It has a lot to do with the power of friendship, but it comes down to "Rejecting him as God" from a philosophical/moral perspective, while having a team of incredibly skilled people (ghost, assassins, hybrids, and most importantly, samurai) by your side

@@malwre_android1617 And if he is not god , he has no right to do what it does and they it just becomes another demon, avery powerfull one but another demon at the end.

I detest the power of frienship more than that megalomaniac, to be honest. I kind of understand where he is comming from and why he lacks faith in humanity, but enslaving yourself to a thought form is a big no-no. It's not the answer.

Shin Megan’s Tensi in a shellnut

Practically all jrpgs in a nutshell

johnny, pucci and giorno vs YVYH

Le polygonal golden heads vs some teenagers , a skeleton and some demon thing

Who will win ? *THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY OF THE UNIVERSE FROM THE ABRAHAMIC RELIGIONS, ALPHA AND OMEGA, CREATOR AND DESTROYER* or my neighbour's youngest son who's having a punkish phase.

Who is Brian’s mom?

blessed are the cheesemakers

based reference

now you listen here, he's not the messiah he's a very naughty boy now go away

“WHAT HAVE THE ROMANS EVER DONE FOR US?!”

This game gets way to much shit, yeah i get that it has stronger friendship themes than the other mainline games but it isn't persona like many claim, not even close. Having more people around you made the game quite interesting.

@@brotbrotsen1100 I think the people that bitched about this game being "too persona-ey" are all just diehard Nocturne-stans who think that being elitests over an edgier, less sociable SMT game that has demonic screaming battle-theme lyrics makes them cool. :^)

@@MastaGambit go off king 👑

@@MastaGambit to be fair this game is written like fanfiction and the characters are average at best. i only really liked gaston and navarre, and even then whenever navarre went through personal growth someone would always make an unfunny joke at his expense and it pissed me off everytime. it doesn't even do the whole ""friendship"" thing right

@@malsocio I agree, but I still think some people gave it a bit too much flack

Makes sense, considering he's probably one of the few who was directly screwed up by him and has been around long enough to see a lot of bullshit.

One more god rejected

@@TheActualMrLink FEAR , FEAR GOD AND GIVE GLORY TO HIM FOR THE HOUR OF HIS JUDGMENT HAS COME TO YOU

@@jefflol3930 no, I don’t think I will.

That’s the gnostic concept of it. In gnostic theory YHWH & YHVH is a false god that believes him self to be above the true creator of the universe. Satan is usually considered the good guy in it. If you want to put hours of reading into layman’s terms

hey, at least he doesn't kill you.

It's even better when you realize that the form is also based upon the Plagues of Egypt. One of his attacks is also "Planned Chaos." His demonized state literally portrays him as the cause of Armageddon and a plague that causes humanity endless suffering. It's one of the most amazing portrayals of God in media

@@travisoliver6741 I wouldn't it call it amazing since it's not accurate, but it's interesting

@@MrYTPfan123 "Amazing" doesn't necessarily mean accurate, it just means something that causes awe. I'm in awe at how well-designed it is. But besides his physical appearance (Which very much is inaccurate), his portrayal is like 95% accurate to Old Testament YHVH, seeing as he was pretty psychopathic in it. Hell, even the fact that Lucifer and all demons of chaos are just Patsies of YHVH to make him look good is a very logical conclusion to make of a supposedly omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent God. Also, God is in fact portrayed as the architect of Armageddon, even in Revelation. The Horsemen of the Apocalypse were apparently released by God to have authority over the world, and each of the trumpets that sound (Which cause various calamities) are from God"s Angels. No one points this out usually because it makes God look like an ass who delights in suffering. There's a reason why interpreting Revelation literally is something only fundamentalists do.

@@travisoliver6741 While I never got a bad impression of Him even in the Old Testament, I agree that His punishments there are very severe. Revelation (no s at the end) is largely hidden messages in the form of apocalyptic imagery. It's mainly about the oppression of the Jews under the Roman Empire. I don't get why fundamentalists give it so much power and take it literally, but Christians in the west like the idea of an upcoming apocalypse. I myself live in a country where Eastern Orthodoxy is practiced, and their takes on scripture are a lot more reasonable. Translations of the bible are better too. Overall, it's you're right to choose what to believe imo

To be fair, YHVH likely was worshipped along with a demonic force around the early Persian era

For the love of yourself, YHVH, stop!

lol haha he looks like a demented Professor X

;)

@@StServal Think of the children! Will someone think of the children?!

@@johnmilton9789 Don't think of the children, my dude. *Think of the demons who were oppresed by this golden heady.*

Kirby does too

@@nore5888 Both involve killing eldritch gods.

@@ProfessionalNamielleLewder69 Idk if you have seen the current director of the kirby series, but his art is literally all eldritch horror and it doesnt have the cutesy kirby look, I wish he could draw some demons for SMT

@@nore5888 even more true with Forgotten land

@@nore5888 Recommend any of the titles? I'm interested...

"SNAKEEEEE!"

SON OF MAN, I WANT TO SEE WHAT YOU’VE GOT!!

THERES ONE EVERY INSTALLMENT

ARE YOU A WINNER ?

how so?

@@christopherbravo1813 He's an infinite number of heads into the distance, kind of like stars in the sky.

@@someguy4405 I guess that's an interesting point, but even the stars aren't limitless. there is only a finite amount of them.

@@christopherbravo1813 Says who?

Above true infinity actually

Well, no one really knows the true pronunciation. It is a lost knowledge. So this is as good as any.

It is pronounced as eoxjeqbcoudqxnqozmqspemfwuxovd

@@jacobfreeman5444 Pretty sure it's pronounced "Yahweh". It's the Jewish god after all.

@@ZeroHelios46 That's an approximation. The Tetragrammaton is said to be unpronounceable and unknowable, since it's the actual name of God, the "I AM". The Hebrews only put down those letters without syllables out of respect, but the true name of God is apparently unknowable. They did it here by making the characters literally be unable to say it, the universe itself making it so they can't speak it.

@@ZeroHelios46 That is the best guess. It likely is accurate. But yeah...the knowledge of the pronounciation is lost. So it can only be a guess.

And unless you have Pierce, you have to rely on the RNG to open a weakness to exploit with Flynn as the resistance that gets lowered is random as well.

Vishnu flynn: haha mazandyne go wooooosh **lost demons**

@@pooters7785 laughs in hallelujah

I decided to purchase this game recently as a means to call this one of my final downloads onto my 2ds before everything was shut down for good... I just beat this boss today. And it took: multiple salamanders to fuse up to the top tier of heralds before new game+, demon enhancing the crap out of two elementals in sylph and Undine to which both had some kind of necessary skill like magoan and dekaja (had silent prayer instead), fusing down to megami norn to get a demon proficient in support spells, sacrificing two seraphs to get the herald below when fused with one copy of this enhanced undine with the other merging with a divine angel (adv.) to get Demiurge, using gnomes to get reaper mot (I got lucky that one of his skills changed to war cry so I could conserve mp with a debuff to the stats that really mattered here), then honestly just trying to load myself up with basic backup demons like Python who I used to debuff, getting another divine angel, and fusing MORE SALAMANDERS TO GET THE LITERAL KING OF ALL DICKS (You know what I am talking about if you played any megaten game). I put this all here because you would be 100% right and needs to be reiterated. Never have I ever had a boss battle get my heart racing so bad and never did I think I would get so tense over every little thing this alternative version of the creator god did. Obviously it did. It did, and when I got to a second prompt, with my friends cheering me on... oh my god you summed up so much of my pain. If you ever read this despite your comment being posted two years ago, man... we must be some really messed up people if we were willing to persist until we finally beat this blasted thing. Holy crap. I didn't do it on easy but I certainly didn't do this on hard. Buff maister is something else.

THE GOD YOU WORSHIP IS D E D

@@someguy4405 lucifer is dead too, and so are the other major players of law and neutral. So.... Who's gonna be the big bad ?

@@gjahmato8704 The buddha?

@@someguy4405 Very unlikely considering people complained about the devine powers, maybe hitoshura or nanashi due to their endings where they become villains?

@@gjahmato8704 Who complained about the divine powers????? I didn’t complain about the divine powers. *toot*

Literally is a dose of bloodlust.

Sounds really poor to me, the Japanese dub is way much better

@@DemonDraKe682You’re prolly the same guy who praises Persona 5 Joker’s VA and no else, I’m sorry but I find your criticism baseless, some 🇯🇵ese VA’s can just be as bad as 🇺🇸 ones, how is Xander Mobus as the VA of Dagda much worse? Personally I believe both parties did a good job, it’s not a black and white situation.

How come?

@@CyberLink70 i would assume it's in consideration for that one comment chain that had the guy talking about how Atlus did a horrible job of conveying YHVH as the "One True God" in SMT. I just like the game, didn't need a discussion of ACTUAL context and basis because it's not really supposed to convey that....

@@zenshimagatsuyukazashi6244 dude's an angry christian ranboo fan, lmao like, okay, i get it; god may be inaccurate, but it also makes sense for him to be evil in some context

@@yoman5029 common religious nuts do be like that

@@zeroomega3781 atheists miscreants also fling shit in the comment section

Record Scratch Man, no questions.

Tie, no questions

Anime scratching boy

Edgy Record Man

incel anime boy

It a neutral good ending

Why

@@oharo8382 it's strange for the reason being that mainline SMT isn't usually known for it's "power of friendship" endings as usually the friends you make along the way end up forming their own beliefs and depending on which route you choose you'll have to kill your friends in order to move forward. and in SMT IVA's case none of that necessairly exists (if we ignore the Massacre route) as the peace ending for IVA strays off from what you'd expect in an SMT game and more so in Persona/Devil Survivor

@@Windermedyet still in SMT 3 you restore everything and recover your dead friends at neutral ending

@@DemonDraKe682yet that ending is a bad ending. It fixes nothing and literally says that you just start the whole cycle over again

Did he go shopping for milk one day?

In the end, the story of God is basically the story of a disgraced father.

@@shadowspark yep, pretty much

This demands so many questions, but at the same time, I can kinda relate?

@@shadowspark I mean, he (YHVH) sacrificed his own son without asking if he (jesus) was ok with it or not. In the garden before jesus was crucified, he sweat blood. While possible, it only is out of EXTREME stress and duress that one is able to sweat blood. YHVH didn't have his own sons consent, but god had jesus nailed to a cross regardless. So he's not the good guy by any means.

what about Shesha

I am... LEEROOOOOOOOOY JENKINS!!! I'm sorry. I felt like this is going to be meme material. XD

@@KubatheChangeling You could as well use JOHN CENA ;D

@@Max-iq8hi So true. But possibilities for this meme will be endless. :D

@Wilson Nascimento I AM *that one chinese meme i don't remember*

@Wilson Nascimento funny enough I think the bleep is a reference to yahweh's name being considered so sacred it's not really allowed to be just casually said out loud.

God dies from hurt feelings

😹

I played this years ago while going through the process of deconstructing my faith. You have no idea how cathartic it was to kill God while denying him by getting the characters in-game to say the same shit I'd been thinking for months...

If only every religious nut who's been spreading butthurt comments in these videos would calm down and just stop taking games such as this personally.

they all suck equally.

More like to the jackass who claimed to be above all and the creator of all while he was a creation here and some alien asshole in Ashura's Wrath.

The only way he'd like it more is if every denial of YHVH's Divinity was capped off with the denying party member punching him in the face.

Asura would like it even better if they didn't bother with edgy Atheist crap and just went on with the pummeling from the start.

I am Infinity. The Supreme Be- *Shut up YHVH.*

@@jacksimpson8529 I mean. The two parties do do that.

I think YHVH is more of an interpretation of Pre-Christian God, more along the lines of the Old Testament rather than the New. There's no mention of Jesus in the smt-verse, at least to my knowledge

@@justyouraveragememester5037 Only in P3, where he's a persona, kinda

@@justyouraveragememester5037 i believe jesus *kinda* shows up in devil summoner as a demon of the undead race called agony. "A zombie who is always carrying a cross. He's a martyr who was not reborn in the Kingdom of God after dying. Because his people did not give their lives for their God, he was reborn as a demon. Though he lived through many forms of pain, his God did not ask this of him. Because he only cared about pleasing his God, he became a truly miserable soul."

does fighting God automatically make the worst game a masterpiece? if so, I'm gonna start selling my own excrement as games with God as the final boss.

@@christopherbravo1813 You put literally zero thought into this comment, didn't you.

I think it's cheesy.

Awakening fucking suck

Fire Emblem did that way back before Awakening

@@AzumarillConGafasBv 🤡

Atlus seems to draw from the same VA pool a lot. Not that I'm complaining.

Considering that the main theme of SMT is reincarnation, the voices could represent different lives in different universes.

@@Porphyrios9856 OH GAWD

Rigby's VA voiced YHWH, a god

@@Porphyrios9856 Big brain

BASED

@@christopherbravo1813 As always, they do be intentionally ignoring him (given that Flynn was able to see Navarre in the Cosmic Egg)

@@kichiroumitsurugi4363 good for them, they have *something* resembling a personality after all.

interesting. care to elaborate?

@@christopherbravo1813 You get to kill a tyrant god. All needs to be said

@@LightKing1237 that's not thoughtful or enjoyable.

@@christopherbravo1813 when you concider the tyrants actions, it actually is!

@@LightKing1237 I have. and I have concluded that we are the villains. however, I am willing to hear evidence to the contrary.

Tbh I feel like it's the point, especially since the last battle is supposed to be denying that he is all-powerful right to his face.

@@yoso378 I guess, but they say it before they even see him for the first time.

2 years later, but basically the reason is, when demons and YHVH say His true name, on the screen as text it’s displayed as YHVH but it’s incomprehensible to humans, the humans in smt only say YHVH as in the actual sounds of the letters, because they can’t comprehend the true sound of His name.

I've always interpreted it as YHVH being so powerful, he made his name unhearable, even when spoken by the sons of man.

Where did you hear that?

@@KordellCunningham Oh, it was just something I theorized together after reading the Bible, and I noticed that there was no mention of Lucifer during Adam and Eve's time.

@@douglaslundin4506 God punished Adam and Eve by expelling them from the Garden of Eden because they were given a single very simple rule to follow and then they didn't, kids get spankings when they misbehave. Luciferians and Satanists are typically rapists and pedophiles and groomers. I hope this helps your interpretation.

@@buttlord2223 Still, the old testament God and his priests were all bloothirsty fanatics as well. And if Adam and Eve hadn't disobeyed God, we'd all been his slaves by now. Lucifer punishes sinners, and no one else, while God punishes non believers. So who's the more selfish one of the two?

​@@douglaslundin4506 Everybody God killed in the Bible deserved it God also absolves and forgives all who believe in him. I said the same retarded shit when I was 14, you'll grow out of it eventually.

As of mythology, I didn't know what or who YHVH was. Was weird seeing a big head

Mythology? That's the Jewish religion! (/s its all myth to me, including even modern 'mythos' ideas of god)

BuffMaister Well, the bible (and Paradise lost for that matter) does say that yhvh is incomprehensible to humans. So if a giant golden head is apparently incomprehensible, what does that say about us? Lol

@@oroborosspaghetti6425 that could be what the human mind interprets YHVH

@@BuffMaister YHVH is basically the Jewish God [And therefor also the Christian and Islamic god; since they're all abrahamic faiths; ultimately; they all believe the same God]

I concur

3d models please! the ones in dx2 look cool

@@lowhp_comic guess you gotta wait for SMT5...if it gets out from development hell.

@@JoKoBod You mean never?

@@JoKoBod 2021

Ay yai yai! Teenagers with attitudes, am I right?

Let them burn in hell.

@@TangensROH 😳

such an underrated comment :D

Richard Dawkins favorite game

You win the internet.

We all know that Richard Dawkins is up there with the likes of such great video game writers such as Hideo Kojima

@@kertchu Yeah, uh...no. No he's not.

In the end, he really ended it thus

@@awesomehazimex7410 Wrong Samurai

​​@@awesomehazimex7410 in the end his demon is a bit different

That face looks like YHWH was formulating a plan to rape all party members and then eat them.

@@wetyewruyrtsutrdhjfg whoa there

@@wetyewruyrtsutrdhjfg Yikes

Whoa, looking cool there, [ *Scratching noise* ] !

@@wetyewruyrtsutrdhjfg That's why they bleep out his name. No evidence, no witnesses.

being a luxorer it's likely that he was exposed to religion like jonathan yet was essentially driven to insanity by the angels and demons in smtiv. he knows how corrupt they are because he had to experience it before any of the others even set out on their journey, and he likely felt betrayed after finding out how terrible angels (and yhvh, by extension) really were.

I prefer his brother's version

can somebody explain to me why ANY of the denials are convincing?

@@lezzei what are you TALKING about? Navarre was an arrogant asshat who tried to get his comrades killed because they weren't Luxurors like him! he was driven mad after his plans fell apart and he was called out for it! God and the angels had literally nothing to do with any of that! if anything, the protagonist is to blame for making Mikado a class-based society in the first place.

@@christopherbravo1813 ehhh, he was pissed off from that but you can tell from his experience in naraku and ESPECIALLY in the quest where you have to locate him (i forget what it's called but it's the one where he's all disheveled and fucked up looking) that his insanity stemmed from a firsthand witness to demons and/or angels

And be without a guy who was most likely to give me a free doping? Oh my god, he's the reason I even beat YHVH today.

are you talking about YHVH ?

@@peacewalker3344 Yes, just trying to be poetic about it. The words just came out

@@allecsgaut8161 no, i just wanna make sure i don't miss some Other corrupt god, because yknow... oh and btw, i'm new to smt lore, so who or what is the True God of SMT universe?

@@peacewalker3344 I am no expert, but I am definitely sure that it is the Axiom. A formless will, better if you look it up yourself

@@allecsgaut8161 thanks

Imagine if he screamed STOP TALKING in the same manner as rigby?

I mean, the resemblance is uncanny

Same!!! SMT is great

Some people can't take some stuff containing sensitive stuff (even though, like that one other comment said, that YHVH is just another Lucifer) and didn't bother to research or take it as fun. That is the sad truth.

“In order for you exist you require that we believe in you. You are no god, you’re only a parasite that has infected Humanity for eons. You call us weak? Let me show you how wrong you are!”

reddit r/atheism wholesome keanu chungus 100

Cringeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

The word of God is life and its Elohim himself, denying it, will only bring death and destruction. Humans are lead by lies of demons to follow their own flesh instead of their hearts. YHWH is love, hope and charity. Without this, our spirits will know no rest. After this fight if is happened every realm will turn into hell. Take his grace he already took your cup of wrath. Fear not my brethren.

@@irsshill4502 If I were to believe in you, I wouldn't be following my heart, we'd be following the voice in my head! I choose to follow my heart and decide for myself what is right! I'm sick and tired of blindly obeying everyone! I'm making my *own* decision for once!

Literally an incarnation of sin. But don't sin guys Lol.

​@@E0nW0lf using a game as an argument against Christianity is so heckin' smart WOWZERS!

@Sage-he9xt WOWZERS When you don't realize a joke when you see one. Also, when you bring up something irrelevant. I was talking about the game, not jeebis Magic Man in the Sky.

Some say YHWH is like the sound of breathing, with "YH" being an inhale, and "WH" being an exhale. Apparent it would be to seem like god is in everyone and they're always saying his name Idk much though so I just left that in there

What are your first two?

Tis but a fantasy. We all know that it's not gonna happen.

You're completely wrong, the other mainline games has the protagonists being forced to kill their own friends

@@balanceherosmt7170 Someitmes Satan is the only friend you need.

True

I think that the implication is that in the SMT Universe, "gods" are manifestations of humanity's will and needs, but based on our flawed interpretation of them, so "YHWH" is not meant to be taken as the real deal, just a twisted version created by people's need for guidance, order and salvation in a world that's cruel and chaotic. My main problem is that previous games in the series made it pretty clear that every "moral" path you could take had a pretty big drawback: chaos leads to a world of survival of the fittest where the strong rule and the weak suffer and die, while law leads to stagnation because a world without struggle and challenges formed by blind obedience is inherently static. Even the middle path of neutrality is treated as impossible to maintain in the long run because humanity will inevitably cause it's own collapse. In other words, it's a cycle, with no perfect solutions, just compromises and a ticking clock. In a way, it used to be "fair" to the ideologies it was criticizing. But not this game, this one has an explicit "good" ending that involves ALL sides to help you destroy the law of the universe, because humanity needs no "gods". This goes so hard against the philosophy of the series I don't understand how the "fandom" thinks this is the "best" game in it. SMT is a tragedy about the human condition and our quest for purpose and answers leading to the same dark places all the time, but now with a happy ending.

@@ElConradoX ...shit. Maybe I actually _should_ play Nocturne...

@@rathalomaniac6212 yeah , it’s great .

If you look at the actual history of Yahweh (not SMT, mind you, but if you research Yahweh before what the Bible says), you'll know that he started off as a minor metallurgy deity until he or his followers carried out purges of both his rivals, as well as his compatriots of his own pantheon, such as Baal and Asherah. I mean, there was an archbishop who estimated that the world is only 6000 years old. Following the Chinese emperor logic where "year 1" is the year the founding emperor takes his throne, it actually makes sense that _Yahweh's world_ is only 6000 years old.