Shining Force - All Optional Characters & Secret Items Guide

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Jerupitus

Jerupitus

Күн бұрын

In this video I will demonstrate how to get every optional/missable character and every secret item in Shining Force for the Sega Genesis.
0:24 - First conversation with Gort
1:05 - Gong joins
1:48 - First conversation with Jogurt
1:54 - Gort joins
2:13 - First conversation with Guntz
3:01 - Domingo egg
3:19 - First conversation with Arthur
3:34 - Anri joins
3:48 - Arthur joins
4:00 - Second conversation with Guntz
4:35 - Diane joins
5:08 - Sugoi Mizugi (Secret item #1) & Moonstone #1
5:28 - Moonstone transformed into Lunar Dew
5:52 - Zylo joins
6:36 - First conversation with Kokichi
7:21 - Kutui Huku (Secret item #2)
7:38 - Jogurt joins
7:48 - Kokichi joins
8:36 - Vankar joins
9:05 - Domingo joins
9:42 - Guntz joins
9:59 - Kenji (Secret item #3)
10:15 - Moonstone #2 (Secret item #4)
10:27 - Teppou (Secret item #5)
10:40 - Lyle joins
10:57 - Youji (Secret item #6)
11:10 - Musashi joins
11:34 - Hanzou joins
11:53 - Kaku-chan (Secret item #7)
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@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 3 жыл бұрын
Hello friends! I made this video because I couldn't really find anything in chronological order that would help me do a 100% playthrough. I hope this video helps, and if you have any questions about anything I'd be happy to help! Timestamps are in the description if there's anything specific you're looking for, but keep in mind there are some things you have to do first to trigger certain joins, particularly Kokichi.
@kingsolo6241
@kingsolo6241 Жыл бұрын
What are all the secret items for
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus Жыл бұрын
The Sugoi Mizugi and Kutui Huku change the battle map sprite of Tao and Anri respectively. The rest don't do anything
@kingsolo6241
@kingsolo6241 Жыл бұрын
@@Jerupitus thanks
@djvapid
@djvapid 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when I first discovered this game. Sometime around 1993, I was 11. I spent the next few years playing it over, and over, and over again. No other game. Just that one. I'd play it, beat it, and rinse and repeat. I played it so much that I knew how the AI would react to every single move I made. I knew all the secrets (before the days of Google), and I had it down to a science - when to promote everyone, what level to be by which fight, etc etc. To this day, Shining Force is the template I compare every other strategy game to. I have yet to play anything that brings back the same magic that the original series of games did (Shining Force 1-3 specifically, not the abominations they have created after). I'm still waiting for my unicorn, but I hope some day a developer comes along and introduces the game to a new generation of consoles and technology.
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 3 жыл бұрын
Haha that's awesome! I can remember imitating the attack animations while waiting for the bus for school. I just couldn't wait to get home and play it more. Final Fantasy Tactics is high up there for me when it comes to srpgs, but the sheer cool factor of this game is unrivaled in my opinion.
@djvapid
@djvapid 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jerupitus I just picked up FF tactics on my phone - I don’t usually do any mobile gaming at all, but I figured if I’m ever stuck anywhere with just a phone and no desktop, I’ve got a time burner.
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 3 жыл бұрын
Tactics is great no matter how you play it!
@theerikin8431
@theerikin8431 3 жыл бұрын
There's always mods for SF1 and 2 to scratch that itch.
@TaiJason37
@TaiJason37 2 жыл бұрын
If you never played Shining Force CD give it a go. Emulating should do it. It‘s not the best of the series (the games are Game Gear remakes after all), but it‘s "new" stuff. I played the original japanese Game Gear versions back in the day and never understood anything, but i loved these games so much.
@cwood834
@cwood834 2 жыл бұрын
FYI, you do not need to talk to Gort before leaving Guardiana the first time to have him join your party. You just need to talk to him when you return after Guardiana has been attacked. Similarly, you do not need to engage with Guntz at all. You can just find him in the pen in Pao.
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info! I suspected as much, but since I hadn't tested it myself I just wanted to include the methods I was absolutely certain about.
@TaiJason37
@TaiJason37 2 жыл бұрын
I loved Shining Force 1&2 to death when i was young. I played these games so many times during my vacation at my grandparents, Landstalker, Oasis, Light Crusader...they let me play all day, i got so many things to eat, it was like living a dream. To remember the good old times i started all games again with the Sega Collection on Series X (the best way to use a 12TF console), searched for a video because i don‘t remember everything and here i am. Thanks so much, i will use this on my new nostalgic playthrough :)
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Have a blast replaying it my friend
@anonamatron
@anonamatron 2 жыл бұрын
It's not your fault that some of the old games are better than the new stuff. Play whatever you like! I've played Shining Force 1, and Shining Force CD, so many times... I've even played through the Game Gear ones (which CD basically is....) including the Japan only one. Somehow though, I've never made it very far through Shining Force 2, and I've never even played SF3. One of these days, one of these days...
@OzymandiasWasRight
@OzymandiasWasRight 2 жыл бұрын
God I love this game. SF 1&2 are two of the most underrated 16bit gems ever made.
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 2 жыл бұрын
I've really gotta play SF2, so many people have recommended it and I never really gave it a chance
@davidwoodside9347
@davidwoodside9347 Ай бұрын
Aw man playing through these games again, started playing this when I was 6 or 7, just a great series of games
@AkaiAzul
@AkaiAzul Жыл бұрын
The first two secret items allowing you to change the OW sprites of characters is something I wish they did more of in this game. Swimwear Max, Armorless Guntz, Pajama Kokichi, Parade Mae, Street Clothes Diane, Suit Gong, King Gort, Maskless Hanzou, Tank Lyle, Superhero Pelle, and more ideas that could've been possible!
@sh0efridge
@sh0efridge 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers for this! It’s been very helpful for my current playthrough. I never realised how much I missed out on when I played as a kid!
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@DeathAtYourDoorStep
@DeathAtYourDoorStep 2 жыл бұрын
im glad someone actually covered all this stuff in this game. good job with the commentary too!
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words, and thanks for watching!
@CosmiQuackAlt
@CosmiQuackAlt 2 жыл бұрын
I loved this video! I'll be sure to get all of these on my next playtrough. I found this game abut 2 (I was 12 at the time) years ago with Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection for PS3 and have been in love with it and the second one ever since. you're a very underrated youtuber and I hope you get to 100k and beyond
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! It's super cool to me that people are still discovering one of my favorite games.
@Cormano980
@Cormano980 16 күн бұрын
I remember get all of these back then without any guides, basically playing it so many times and searching everything paid up
@blackdragoncyrus
@blackdragoncyrus 2 жыл бұрын
Chapter 4 is my favourite for recruitments since you get both Domingo and Guntz.
@trikkinikki970
@trikkinikki970 Жыл бұрын
and Vankar, Earnest, Kokichi. Chapter 4 powers you up. Pao Prairie battle is one of my favorites too.
@carpediem1682
@carpediem1682 2 жыл бұрын
wow.. the first time ever i see a video with zero dislikes. you´ve done a wonderful job to earn this :D
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! This one was hard work, but hopefully now people will have everything they need to do a 100% playthrough of one of my favorite games all in one place.
@SyddlesFuzz
@SyddlesFuzz Жыл бұрын
When I was little, I thought it was so cool to get Gong.
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus Жыл бұрын
You were right!
@daimyodecoca4749
@daimyodecoca4749 2 жыл бұрын
This game is right there with Phantasy Star 1 and 2. A much lesser known game and not in the same league as Shining Force Phantasy Star, but still a really fun game was Magic of Scheherazade
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't heard of that one. What system was it for?
@daimyodecoca4749
@daimyodecoca4749 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jerupitus Think it was for Nintendo 16 bit
@jkbookie1274
@jkbookie1274 Жыл бұрын
Phantasy Star IV was right up there with Shining Force 1 as my favorite Sega games.
@patrickrobinson545
@patrickrobinson545 Ай бұрын
Thanks man, nice video
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@cripplepants8565
@cripplepants8565 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, befitting such a great game.
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@rianriggs7252
@rianriggs7252 Жыл бұрын
thanks man, now i gotta start it from the beginning lol
@777Nny
@777Nny 2 жыл бұрын
Damn! I've never seen Kokichi before!
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 2 жыл бұрын
He's a strange old man, but he's a beast of a unit! A flying ranged attacker is absurdly good in this game
@meitomiyazaki9848
@meitomiyazaki9848 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate this guide ive never played shining force before but i recently booted it up on the nintendo switch online membership since there was sega genesis games on it and i got immediately pulled in by the character art and battle scene art aside from the tactical gameplay
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus Жыл бұрын
You've found a truly fantastic game my friend. Thanks for watching!
@meitomiyazaki9848
@meitomiyazaki9848 Жыл бұрын
@@Jerupitus just yesterday i finally made it to the climactic battle against darksol and the dark dragon but I promoted my characters very late because i thought there was merit to waiting till 20 and now they are super weak so i am just grinding out the darksol fight but certain characters like Guntz and Zylo and Max and Mae really pulled ahead of everybody else in damage potential of course once max got the chaos breaker that only helped him and of course musashi is unsurprisingly op because everywhere i looked ever since getting into the game musashi has been called one of if not the best and domingo is just domingo hes been in the party since he hatched in chapter 4 so hes level 30 almost lol taos single target blaze 4 also does a lot and i promoted alef late but im grinding the darksol map so hopefully the better lightning spells show up soon
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus Жыл бұрын
You're correct that there is merit to waiting until 20 to promote, but it does involve a decent amount of grinding to pay off. Just don't forget to have Max take the final swing on Dark Dragon for a cool surprise!
@meitomiyazaki9848
@meitomiyazaki9848 Жыл бұрын
@@Jerupitus on the final head of it? or all 3 heads?
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus Жыл бұрын
Just the last one
@jondieblerSZN
@jondieblerSZN 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the help man hell ya
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@WaficYassine
@WaficYassine 2 жыл бұрын
the nostalgia is too much! till date is THE most favorite game of mine , I wish they made more games like this, and by this i mean the almost 8 bit like animations yet still looks really cool , fun to play , ample amount of strategy and what an amazing story , although as far as Japanese games and animes go it's standard isekai trope , anyway off to try FF tactics to see if it holds up to this standard! Oh and thanks for this very helpful video :)
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! You're going to love Tactics, it's absolutely incredible.
@dimisbam7725
@dimisbam7725 2 жыл бұрын
Ff tactics on the game boy advance I think is better especially story wise
@kylekeiper4514
@kylekeiper4514 2 жыл бұрын
A really special one worth mentioning is the Forbidden Box! You should edit the video to talk about it too. Sure, it's not obtainable without save editing, but it's a really cool item worth talking about.
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your suggestion! The Forbidden Box is very cool, but because you can't access it outside of rom hacking it felt outside the bounds of a video like this.
@hitgirlalkire
@hitgirlalkire 3 жыл бұрын
Awww these are great options. I am going to miss this game so much.
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 3 жыл бұрын
Same here! But we will get to play Final Fantasy Tactics eventually, which is just like this game but even better.
@PotatoNinjaMaster
@PotatoNinjaMaster 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jerupitus which version of final fantasy tactics is that? Is there a new one coming?
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 3 жыл бұрын
@@PotatoNinjaMaster I'm going with the original Playstation version as it's how I remember the game, but it would be interesting to try out the sequel. I never played it as I didn't own many handhelds growing up (just a Gameboy). Sadly there's no new versions of Tactics coming out that I'm aware of, but honestly the original game is such a masterpiece that I'm okay with that.
@donstarlancer
@donstarlancer Жыл бұрын
One of my all time faves. Love this game
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus Жыл бұрын
Same here! Thanks for watching
@alexmorpheus6762
@alexmorpheus6762 Жыл бұрын
Same here. It's my first ever RPG game!!
@hezakiya5637
@hezakiya5637 Жыл бұрын
THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE KNOWLEDGE OF THIS GREAT RPG ON THE SONIC'S MEGA COLLECTION FOR PS3 YOU AND YOUR CHANNEL IS EPIC AND LEGENDARY I SUBBED TO YOU RIGHT NOW!!!
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@rafaytauseef3704
@rafaytauseef3704 2 жыл бұрын
I acctully ecountered one of theese guys in shining force 2
@DDDzombie
@DDDzombie Жыл бұрын
I can't imagine beating shining force without any optional characters.
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus Жыл бұрын
It's almost as unthinkable as beating FF6 with the minimum amount of characters in the World of Ruin
@Dreamzkt
@Dreamzkt 2 жыл бұрын
I love Shining Force series, I wish they will remake the games.
@hezakiya5637
@hezakiya5637 Жыл бұрын
They have on ps3 and Xbox 360 called Sonic''s Mega Collection
@Dreamzkt
@Dreamzkt Жыл бұрын
@@hezakiya5637 oh I didn't know that, I'll look for it. Thank you.
@hezakiya5637
@hezakiya5637 Жыл бұрын
@@Dreamzkt would you subscribe to my channel please and thank you
@bluemist1641
@bluemist1641 5 ай бұрын
Great guide. Not sure if this is the same version I played in Sega Dreamcast way back in 2004 but i remember a different areas of some hidden items for Anri and Tao’s costumes as well as the recruitment for Hanzon and musashi
@derekwhite4312
@derekwhite4312 3 ай бұрын
Yoo I literally just looked it up yesterday because I remembered playing this on the sega Dreamcast when I was a child. Looks like it’s the same game that was on a Sega Smash Pack for the Dreamcast tho I can’t remember playing the other games on there specifically on the smash pack
@spiroskofinas4720
@spiroskofinas4720 Жыл бұрын
I love the game though I never recruited the engineer and the ninja and never found any secret items 😂. I never finished it too because I was stuck in a battle with a girl with infinite health but I played it in my PS4 with Sega mega drive and it was so good 🤌🏻 also thx for helping me get Domingo when I was younger 🤝🏻
@mjd3879
@mjd3879 Жыл бұрын
A shining force guide, in 2021? Ah we are in heaven aint we lads.
@BelowAverageGaming13
@BelowAverageGaming13 8 ай бұрын
You can also manipulate the game to miss Tao, Lowe, Ken, Hans, and Luke.
@DC-FGC
@DC-FGC Ай бұрын
This was really fun and informative. Anyone know if there's something like this for SF2? I did a few searches, but all I could find were tier lists.
@jaysea5804
@jaysea5804 Жыл бұрын
I thought hanzo and musashi and jogurt were the only optional characters lol i got all of them just by playing i never found that last item though
@Taomage
@Taomage Жыл бұрын
You don't have to talk to Gort to recruit him later. Just a heads up if you've played before and aren't wanting to explore and talk to everyone.
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus Жыл бұрын
That's correct! Thanks for your comment
@maryhasaballa4052
@maryhasaballa4052 8 ай бұрын
I never heard of that item before I'm so bummed that i missed it
@trikkinikki970
@trikkinikki970 Жыл бұрын
Did you know, if you enter my room and strip me naked you can find Jogurt tattooed on my back? The artist that did Bam Bam Bigelow's head flames tattoo inked it too. Had this whole "dafuq" look the entire time looking at the guy, but that was the best $100 I ever spent.
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus Жыл бұрын
That's awesome!
@st.anselmsfire3547
@st.anselmsfire3547 Жыл бұрын
There are a few of these, like Zylo and Anri, that I didn't know were optional.
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus Жыл бұрын
It's interesting because you'd have to go out of your way to miss them, which you'd only do as part of a challenge run of some kind. There are lots of fun ways to increase the difficulty of the game, like knights only, bare minimum party, and permadeath. So while it might seem odd that characters that are part of the plot can be skipped, I think having the option to do so adds to the replayability, which is one more thing that makes this game great
@mangaexperts
@mangaexperts 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man I never got that guy from egg and hanzo
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@mangaexperts
@mangaexperts 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jerupitus welcome o(〃^▽^〃)o
@jaysea5804
@jaysea5804 Жыл бұрын
Domingo is an awesome flying magic user one of the best in the game
@mangaexperts
@mangaexperts Жыл бұрын
@@jaysea5804 ohh ok
@josiahsims6333
@josiahsims6333 2 жыл бұрын
and if you don't name your hero, he is automatically dubbed MAX which is why he is referenced in the sequel.
@cuddlebug9699
@cuddlebug9699 2 жыл бұрын
DAMMIT! I missed my chance at both Arthur and Domingo!
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that friend! I made this video because of exactly that sort of thing happening to me. It's a feel-bad to be sure, but if it's any consolation you typically wouldn't use those characters for the endgame because you'll end up with better options, despite them having some unique characteristics.
@fierykilljoy5921
@fierykilljoy5921 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jerupitus i used them both quite a bit as arthur gets magic and domingo is a flying mage that's very fast and quite powerful at higher lvl.
@derrostigedieter1860
@derrostigedieter1860 3 жыл бұрын
Heyn work could u do the same with the second shining force
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 3 жыл бұрын
I can, but I don't know if it will be in a reasonable time frame because I've got a lot of games on the schedule right now.
@CptManboobs
@CptManboobs 9 ай бұрын
Okay, but what do the Kenji and Tepou do?
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 9 ай бұрын
Unfortunately they don't do anything
@THEMETALISBETTER
@THEMETALISBETTER 2 ай бұрын
I'm curious about the odd invisible items you find in the fights. Are they weapons or accessories?
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 2 ай бұрын
The Sugoi Mizugi and Kutui Huku change the battle map sprite of Tao and Anri respectively. The rest don't do anything
@THEMETALISBETTER
@THEMETALISBETTER 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the reply. Solid video!
@lurice0
@lurice0 2 жыл бұрын
@7:23 how do i get back here if I'm in chapter 4 so i can get that secret item?
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 2 жыл бұрын
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if you're in chapter 4 you can't go back.
@lurice0
@lurice0 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jerupitus well how was I supposed to know it was there?
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 2 жыл бұрын
@@lurice0 There isn't any way to know beforehand where they are. There aren't any clues anywhere in the game as to their locations, unless you happen to stop facing the particular square, and you happen to notice the search prompt appeared. Sorry that happened to you, I know missing stuff in this game is a major feel-bad, which is why I made this video.
@lurice0
@lurice0 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jerupitus yea I'm on emulator so i had a save nearby so i got the damn dress and she looks way better and i feel more complete with this false sense of accomplishment lol but this is one game hard to find a 100% save .bat
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I'm glad to hear you were able to get it
@henryshum1666
@henryshum1666 2 жыл бұрын
I think you could add the Jogurt Ring in the list
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 2 жыл бұрын
I think that's a totally reasonable thing to include. My idea here was to put together everything you can miss through progress. If you've got Jogurt, you can get the Jogurt Ring any time, but you're right, it definitely could've been included. Maybe I'll give it its own video!
@Renduser
@Renduser Жыл бұрын
Hey, Jerupitus, sorry that im disturbing but I know that u are still active in the comments, so uh... could u, perhaps, please, tell me what to do with the second moon stone? I remember I used it to make lunar dew to make Zylo normal again, but whats the purpose of the second one?
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus Жыл бұрын
Strangely enough it's totally useless! The only secret items that do anything are the Sugoi Mizugi and the Kutui Huku, the rest don't do anything at all
@Renduser
@Renduser Жыл бұрын
@@Jerupitus ah I see, thanks!!!
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus Жыл бұрын
@@Renduser Sure thing! I'm always happy to help
@bruceify
@bruceify Жыл бұрын
can you make this for the GBA version?
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the request, but I've never played it so it's unlikely I'll make a video on it, at least for the time being.
@Ninpoon214
@Ninpoon214 6 ай бұрын
IF I HAVE THE DOMINGO EGG CAN I TALK TO PAO AGAIN IF I MISS THE CARRIGES?
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 6 ай бұрын
I can't say for sure because I don't know where exactly in the game you are, but if you've left the second instance of Pao, unfortunately you can't go back
@Renduser
@Renduser Жыл бұрын
Jerupitus, please save me! I missed one of the costumes (for Anri) because I didnt open the chest during the battle (end of chapter 3), it moved me to the next chapter and I cant go back... what do I do? edit: If not, will I somehow be able to get there sometime later?
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry friend, but you can't go back unless you reload an earlier save
@Renduser
@Renduser Жыл бұрын
@@Jerupitus thats awful... im really upset right now..... it really sucks that I missed it, I understand that it doesnt affect the gameplay at all but such things matter to me so its just... disappointing
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus Жыл бұрын
@@Renduser I completely understand. Missing things is a major feel bad, which is why I made this video in the first place. At least you've got an excuse for another playthrough now though!
@Renduser
@Renduser Жыл бұрын
@@Jerupitus haha, well, I watch ur video as I go through the game, not everything instantly so I wont get spoiled, but this chest thing on chapter 3... ugh...
@MrJholshouser41
@MrJholshouser41 3 жыл бұрын
May, Kris, the birdmen, pelle, Earnest, bleu, Adam, Alex and torasu are the only mandatory characters.
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 3 жыл бұрын
That's absolutely true, you really know your stuff! I particularly enjoy when Hans and Tao still talk to you in the first battle even if you skip them.
@123luff
@123luff 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's fair to exclude Luke Ken Tao and Hans since you can't skip them without cheating (and with that logic, everyone is skippable). Also, I assume you meant Mae and not May since they are different characters. Lastly, you missed Max, he's also mandatory :)
@Angst_Skvadron
@Angst_Skvadron 3 жыл бұрын
oh nooo i missed gong and the hamster and now there was an earthquake... :(
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 3 жыл бұрын
If I'm not mistaken you can still retreat from the fight after the earthquake and get them! You just have to walk on top of the house on the far right.
@itzmejose29
@itzmejose29 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jerupitus I missed the hamster and I’m now in chapter 2 can I retrieve him?
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 3 жыл бұрын
@@itzmejose29 I'm not 100% sure since I haven't tested it myself, but I've definitely read people claim that you only need to check the top left of the priest's house once you get to Pao and he'll still be there. Give it a try and let me know if it works for you!
@MrJholshouser41
@MrJholshouser41 3 жыл бұрын
It's interesting, you can play with like 1/3 of the cast in SF but in SF2 everyone is mandatory save for like 8 people.
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 3 жыл бұрын
Which do you consider to be the superior game?
@BlazerFury01
@BlazerFury01 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jerupitus question wasn't for me but I say 1. 1 had a better story and I liked most of the characters but 2 had improved mechanics better soundtrack and was a lengthier game.
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlazerFury01 A better soundtrack than 1?? Now I've got to give it a try!
@timsohn7057
@timsohn7057 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jerupitus 2 has an eeeeeppppic soundtrack!I played both and like 2 more.
@JM-sz9yg
@JM-sz9yg 21 күн бұрын
There were items I would have put in like the items you can only get from killing certain enemies. The the "heat ax" and what not.
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 21 күн бұрын
That probably would have made sense to do, but those aren't missable as long as you kill the monster holding it. Even if your inventory was full and you didn't receive it, the item can still be found in the Deals section of the shops.
@adamwells1410
@adamwells1410 2 жыл бұрын
But what do you do with the extra moon stone and other secret items that you didn't really say what to so with them
@adamwells1410
@adamwells1410 2 жыл бұрын
I need grammar
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 2 жыл бұрын
The only secret items that do anything are the Sugoi Mizugi and the Kitui Huku. You give those to Tao and Anri, respectively, and it will change their combat sprite. The rest, sadly, don't do anything other than look cool. Despite the second Moon Stone being totally inexplicable, the secret items feel like an unfinished idea to me. It's possible they just ran out of development time, but that's only a theory.
@TheMisleadingBanana
@TheMisleadingBanana 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jerupitus There's a GBA remake of this game that explores content that was planned for the game but was scrapped due to time constraint/technical limitations. It comes highly recommended.
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMisleadingBanana What's it called?
@TheMisleadingBanana
@TheMisleadingBanana 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jerupitus It's called Shining Force: Resurrection of the Dark Dragon
@bladestar2322
@bladestar2322 2 жыл бұрын
I only use Jogurt and Domingo to hold all the potions and other things so you can carry extra healing potions because I don't run any healers after the quarry fight. They slow me down and die too easy. By this time all my fighters and magic users are around level 10, and my healers are only level 4 or 5.
@ChokeslamToHell
@ChokeslamToHell Жыл бұрын
Ah man, Domingo becomes a beast, though, if you use him as a mage.
@bladestar2322
@bladestar2322 Жыл бұрын
He's too far behind the others and dies one hit. Already have Tao and Anri so I don't even bother with him. I bet you defend that useless Jogurt too.
@ChokeslamToHell
@ChokeslamToHell Жыл бұрын
@@bladestar2322 That’s crazy, everyone knows Domingo is one of the best. He levels quickly, his defense is fine, and his range is awesome.
@bladestar2322
@bladestar2322 Жыл бұрын
@@ChokeslamToHell Well, I'm crazy then. I've been playing Shining Force for 25 years and I have tried him a few times and decided he's just not worth it. Only reason I even take him is to load him like a packhorse with the useless items. I don't even know why I bother with those except the girls outfits. And those are basically useless too. The game is very Centaur heavy, I end up with 3 even at the end. Arthur and 2 others.
@ChokeslamToHell
@ChokeslamToHell Жыл бұрын
@@bladestar2322 Just a difference of style is all 😎.
@aaronwarr34
@aaronwarr34 5 ай бұрын
What can you do with this items?
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 5 ай бұрын
The Sugoi Mizugi and Kutui Huku change the battle map sprite of Tao and Anri respectively. The rest don't do anything
@aaronwarr34
@aaronwarr34 5 ай бұрын
@@Jerupitus oh ok, unfortunate I got a playthrough going now got Tao and Anri costumes. Bunch others stuff to sad they don't do anything was hoping they did! Thanks for replying! 👍
@johnlewisbrooks
@johnlewisbrooks Жыл бұрын
Any way to use cursed items?
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus Жыл бұрын
The cursed items can (and should!) be used like any other equipment, you just have to use the Friar to unequip them.
@johnlewisbrooks
@johnlewisbrooks Жыл бұрын
@@Jerupitus what about the devil Lance? It totally freezes my paladins lol
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus Жыл бұрын
@@johnlewisbrooks The Devil Lance is probably the worst cursed weapon because it prevents you from switching to a ranged lance when the situation calls for it, but it's still very good. It's true that you will sometimes lose an attack but the damage potential is worth the tradeoff in my opinion.
@GruppeSechs
@GruppeSechs Жыл бұрын
Gong is my favorite SF1 character, and I love that you get him so early. If you're lucky (or save scum with emulator save states), he has some crazy attack stats. Love a healer who can punch heads off.
@barryt6377
@barryt6377 Жыл бұрын
Hes great i dont care what tier lists say. When do you first promote him? I felt he didnt bounce back fast after first early promotion.
@GruppeSechs
@GruppeSechs Жыл бұрын
@@barryt6377 As a kid I was too impatient and just promoted him at 10. He does seem to fall off a bit offensively after promotion. So I'm gonna try waiting until maybe 12-15 now that I have save states to get actual good stats, especially since he can level up consistently with healing, unlike other fighters, which is unique. His vary the most of all characters from what I've seen. He can either get nothing at all, 1 MP, a little defense, attack, or a jackpot of like 3 attack and 2 defense in one level. I'm at the circus thing right now and he has the highest attack of any character at 26. He can get pretty good speed and defense too. Have him at 13 defense and 12 speed right now. I gave all the power potions to the hero or Gong would be close to 30 atk right now. Beastly. The problem is this is right before other characters get a weapon upgrade, so I'm not sure how long that'll hold up. I never get a level that doesn't have atk for him if I can help it, to make up the difference of being unarmed. I think it'd be kinda fun to do a challenge run with just him and the main character and powerlevel him with heals until he can man mode fights while keeping the hero alive. Okay, that was longer than I meant it to be.
@barryt6377
@barryt6377 Жыл бұрын
@@GruppeSechs It totally would be fun to have him run as #1 Welcome to the Gong show. Guys chopping wood at the beginning doing massive bicep gains. He looks cool when hes promoted, although be it kills his stats.(agility,speed). I started a second playthrough today as him in hopes to bring him to end game. Why i ever kicked him out of my party , i brought shame to my family. Gong doesn't need no weapons hes amazing!
@GruppeSechs
@GruppeSechs Жыл бұрын
@@barryt6377 The Gong Show. I like that. And a gunshow too. I honestly like him more unpromoted. His huge windup punch gets replaced by something less manly! He should have gotten promoted to some Kenshiro atatatata goodness.
@barryt6377
@barryt6377 Жыл бұрын
@@GruppeSechs Yes Yes hahahahaha. A blue flame that has 1000 hands come out and slaps. Not blue flame and a slow Golem evades. They dishonour him .
@ainssama527
@ainssama527 Жыл бұрын
Can you at least tell me what all those items are like kaku Chan etc
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus Жыл бұрын
The Sugoi Mizugi and Kutui Huku change the battle overview sprite for Tao and Anri respectively. The rest don't do anything and are just easter eggs.
@ainssama527
@ainssama527 Жыл бұрын
@@Jerupitus thanks a lot man was excited about what those items might do but its kinda sad now that they don't do anything I guess gotta continue my sf 2 new story mod
@MrJholshouser41
@MrJholshouser41 3 жыл бұрын
Technically, hans, Lowe, tao, Luke are all optional too.
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 3 жыл бұрын
This is true, but requires an exploit to trigger "missing" them. For the purposes of a video like this, it doesn't seem necessary to include their joins as they occur by playing the game normally.
@bladestar2322
@bladestar2322 2 жыл бұрын
Arthur starts out extremely weak, and will probably die a lot early. But eventually, after level 20 and promotion, he will end up being the best of your Centaur Knights!
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 2 жыл бұрын
That's a fact, and he can even use some spells!
@bladestar2322
@bladestar2322 2 жыл бұрын
And, to add to his spellcaster, I give him, but do not equip, the 2 cursed rings, which gives him a better Blaze and Bolt. I just make sure not to use them after they crack and repair them.
@jackviolence4649
@jackviolence4649 2 жыл бұрын
I think I've missed Vankar, Arthur and Musashi
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that! Hopefully my video will help you get them next time
@jackviolence4649
@jackviolence4649 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jerupitus Also I'm really close to the end and I want some tip on how to beat Darksol when he's trying to summon the dark dragon because I'm having some trouble
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 2 жыл бұрын
Without knowing your party configuration, the best advice I can give is to make sure you're using your spellcasting weapons and rings effectively, and make sure your formation sticks together. Overextending can get you into trouble fast, particularly against endgame monsters. Also, make sure you've got plenty of healing seeds on each of your characters. The good news is you keep your experience and levels from the fight if you find yourself in a losing position and cast Egress, so you can't actually lose unless you give up. Just keep trying, you'll get there! Finally, I have an LP of Shining Force on the channel, so here's a link to the fight you're on, just in case it helps you: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iqujktmrudqrmIE.html&ab_channel=Jerupitus
@jackviolence4649
@jackviolence4649 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jerupitus oh yeah my party consists of Cyrus(protagonist), Ken, Mae, Guntz, Zylo, Tao, Anri, Luke, Ernest, Domingo and Hanzou
@derrickbuhonick3105
@derrickbuhonick3105 Жыл бұрын
Kokichi joins without searching the engine as I never have. Still have to talk to him but yeah
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus Жыл бұрын
He only joins if you have him give you the demonstration, and searching the engine is the only way I'm aware of that triggers that scene.
@renlawce3568
@renlawce3568 Жыл бұрын
Hello, you forgot Hanzou and Musashi
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus Жыл бұрын
Hello! Musashi is at 11:10 and Hanzou is at 11:34. Thanks for watching!
@Fullscore999
@Fullscore999 Ай бұрын
But what do they actually do ...?
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus Ай бұрын
The Sugoi Mizugi and Kutui Huku change the battle map sprite of Tao and Anri respectively. The rest don't do anything
@luisreyes1963
@luisreyes1963 2 жыл бұрын
Too bad some of those hidden items are useless. Just imagine the Teppou would be a great attack power up for Bowmasters or the Assault Knight.
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, it's sad the idea was left unfinished
@saturnargentavis1901
@saturnargentavis1901 Жыл бұрын
Missing way too many items. like Jogurts ring
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus Жыл бұрын
I can get behind the Jogurt Ring as worth including, but I'm not sure what else you could be referring to. Could you elaborate?
@darklordyianni4463
@darklordyianni4463 Жыл бұрын
UGH, i missed Gong!
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that, but if it's any consolation he's terrible
@darklordyianni4463
@darklordyianni4463 Жыл бұрын
@@Jerupitus i heard otherwise by two guides, they are saying he's great if you train and promote him.
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus Жыл бұрын
That's true, but it's also true of the entire cast. It really depends on the goal of your playthrough and if you don't mind replaying battles to grind. I dislike leveling healers due to their poor movement and the lack of experience you get from casting healing spells, but they certainly can become very powerful if you invest in them.
@darklordyianni4463
@darklordyianni4463 Жыл бұрын
@@Jerupitus i like grinding and having the "complete thing", if that makes sense.
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus Жыл бұрын
@@darklordyianni4463 Oh I completely understand; in fact I find grinding to be a relaxing and enjoyable activity. I think you'll be interested in taking Arthur the distance because he becomes quite absurd if you do!
@feliciavale4279
@feliciavale4279 11 ай бұрын
The fuck is a kaku-chan?
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 11 ай бұрын
Nobody knows for certain, but it seems likely it's a developer's portrait
@feliciavale4279
@feliciavale4279 11 ай бұрын
@@Jerupitus Interesting, I was aware of the items for Tao and Anri, but I must admit all of the other items I had no idea were in the game. Are all the other ones like that too? ie just items that don't do anything?
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 11 ай бұрын
Correct
@123luff
@123luff 2 жыл бұрын
Too bad all the items are useless besides Domingo, Toa and Anri's outfits.
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 2 жыл бұрын
I think the saddest one is the Teppou. It seems like it should be an actual weapon, and a gun wielding Kokichi would have been so cool!
@123luff
@123luff 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jerupitus I actually don't know what the intended purpose of those items are. If you have a source, that'd be awesome. That said, Teppou I would have thought be a Lyle outfit.
@Jerupitus
@Jerupitus 2 жыл бұрын
@@123luff No one knows their intended purpose, I'm only speculating of course. To me it looks like a pump action shotgun with shells, which would make a cool weapon for a ranged attacker, but it being an alternate costume is a really interesting idea I hadn't considered.
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