Shinohara VS Douillet - Worst Misjudgement in Judo History

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vippudeyare

vippudeyare

17 жыл бұрын

Shinichi Shinohara (Japan) vs David Douillet (France) at the +100kg men's Judo final in 2000 Sydney Olympic.
As you see Shinohara obviously got ippon by Uchimatasukashi technique.
However chief referee and one sub referee judged it as Douillet's yuko and another sub referee judged Shinohara's ippon.
Even though the misjudgement apparently existed Shinohara had never made excuses and complained about this judge.
I hope horrible misjudement like this will never happen again for all of athletes and for true manly strongest Judoka Shinichi Shinohara.
大誤審で問題になった篠原ドゥイエ戦をニコニコ動画から転載、せっかくなので英語で
2000年シドニー五輪男子柔道100Kg超級決勝戦でフランスのドゥイエが仕掛けた内股を篠原信一選手が内股すかしで一本!金メダル!と思いきや、まさかの誤審でドゥイエの有効ポイントに。
この信じがたい大誤審により、篠原選手は結局ポイント差を埋めることができず銀メダルに終わりました。
試合後、篠原選手は「自分が弱いから負けた」と、男らしく言い訳をすることはありませんでした。
後に有働由美子アナウンサーがすすり泣きながら経緯を報告していたのをやり切れない思いで見ていた人も多いのではないかと。
個人的には解説者になった篠原さんのボケや野村忠宏さんとの絶妙な漫談が大好なので、篠原さんにはこれからも解説者としても柔道家としても、ご活躍を期待しています。

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@s-mat2147
@s-mat2147 3 жыл бұрын
I was a 10-year-old kid when I was watching it on TV and I do still remember I was super confused and mad at the referee for the misjudgment he made at the biggest tournament like Olympic. But I also still remember that Shinohara's post-match interview helped calm me down where he said "It was neither the referee's nor the opponent's fault. But it was definitely my fault because I was mentally so weak that I got phased by the misjudgment and couldn't be 100% focused after that. If only I was mentally stronger...". He moved Japanese people's heart more than those who won gold medals.
@momo19992000
@momo19992000 16 жыл бұрын
「どこを見てたんでしょうか」 この一言に尽きる試合でしたなぁ。
@user-kp7mi9ux5x
@user-kp7mi9ux5x 2 жыл бұрын
多々野親父 これはもう、篠原氏の反則負けでもおかしくないだろうね。もう遅いけど。
@MEG2210
@MEG2210 15 жыл бұрын
アメリカ在住ですが海外の審判のレベルが低すぎて困る。内股が決 まりすぎて相手が宙で反転プラス1/4転して横腹で着地したのを 「効果」と呼んだり、体落し一本決めた後いきおいにつられて前転 したら相手の「有効」になったり。この相手選手は「試合に勝って 勝負に負けた」ことを知るべきですね。この武士道がわからない輩 は柔道をやらないで頂きたい。
@timinochi
@timinochi 16 жыл бұрын
Immediately after he was thorwn by Shinohara's Uchimata-sukashi (counter-attack against Uchimata), Douillet was obviously disappointed. That showed who really won. Some people implied that that it was referees' crime of bribery.
@martinlaser7819
@martinlaser7819 9 ай бұрын
Douillet explained in an interview that the decision of the referee was right because it was only his action that failed and no action his adversary. However he thought at first that the referee was so good to decide this correctly. Of course it is in question how to decide in such a situation. Saito had the same problem against Yamashita in his last fight. So the Japanese must respect the decision. Douillet also was of the opinion that the referee should have given nothing in this situation and his second not convincing Yuko was the real good enough to decide the match.
@orykahz3431
@orykahz3431 3 жыл бұрын
shinohara said he blamed himself because he didnt get another IPPON after the 1st judge. he also said he cried out all night blaming for himself again for not thinking of getting another IPPON coz the result then might have been different. Shinohara has never blamed the judge nor for the opponent. I dont know about you guys but damn, i think he is THE MAN
@nzburger
@nzburger 2 жыл бұрын
Shinohara was a true sportsman, I agree...he never bad mouthed the ref, that was grace and sporstmanship in action...total opposite of Douillet
@masterartform
@masterartform 3 ай бұрын
Thank you. The decision itself was controversial, but no one talks about the true jewel which was how Shinohara acted and responded. He took the weight of everything. This is true Judo and the inner wisdom of Jigoro Kano. For you to highlight this means you are understanding the inner wisdom of Kano, and I salute you.
@hitochaichai
@hitochaichai 5 күн бұрын
douillet clearly lost. I want to ask him if he still think he won after he checks video
@hogepoco
@hogepoco 9 жыл бұрын
obviously ippon
@user-xe9pw1bv6w
@user-xe9pw1bv6w 2 жыл бұрын
主審 フランス系ニュージーランド人 副審1 コートジボワール人(元フランス領) 副審2 セネガル人(元フランス領) 偶然かなぁ?
@TheYujiman
@TheYujiman 12 жыл бұрын
これって主審が『内股透かし』って技を知らなかったんでしょ… そんなのが国際審判やってるって時点で話にならねぇー
@user-qj5hq4ub1c
@user-qj5hq4ub1c 3 жыл бұрын
主審は篠原の方しか観てなったんだよ
@user-ld3px3ob2r
@user-ld3px3ob2r 2 жыл бұрын
ほんまありえんなこれ。いつ見ても、ドゥイエがこの後表彰式で笑ってたことが死ぬほどむかついた。選手のせいではないんだけどもはらわたが煮え繰り返る思い
@user-ng7nt9lt4q
@user-ng7nt9lt4q 10 ай бұрын
自分もそうです 負けたの間違いなくドゥイエ 主審もどこぞの馬の骨か?
@judoman123321
@judoman123321 12 жыл бұрын
Shinichi Shinohara had the ippon!
@gt360gt
@gt360gt 16 жыл бұрын
Uchimata-Sukashi Shinohara IPPON!
@LittleB2007
@LittleB2007 16 жыл бұрын
I agree, it's so true and I DO respect him too for being "a good loser" - maybe one of the best loser in judo history - but still I cannot help but wish he had raised his voice about being robbed of a gold medal because, frankly, there's such a big difference between gold and silver. Especially in only-once-in-four-years Olympic Games.
@jpntechnostream505
@jpntechnostream505 8 жыл бұрын
結局日本のコーチ陣で審判とまともにコミュニケーションできる語学力を持った人間がいないのも痛かった・・・
@djalex0u38
@djalex0u38 4 жыл бұрын
I am actually french and... I have never seen this before but I knew the olympic titles of Douillet. Now I saw how he won, I'm quite confused. According to me, there was Ippon for Shinohara... 😬
@leaphorn34
@leaphorn34 4 жыл бұрын
Frenchman too... Not clear at all... Sry
@tsunehikokuwabara8764
@tsunehikokuwabara8764 3 жыл бұрын
Merci infiniment.
@user-hb2kg4el6g
@user-hb2kg4el6g 2 жыл бұрын
zannenn thing
@MrPedro9128
@MrPedro9128 2 жыл бұрын
ou est ce que vous voyez ippon là dessus, c'est douillet qui attaque et au moment où les 2 judokas arrivent au sol ils se lachent dont l'attaque n'est même pas maitrisée
@Teeman44
@Teeman44 7 ай бұрын
@@MrPedro9128Because Douillet landed on his back due to uchimata sukashi by Shinohara. It’s obvious… How in the world can you justify yuko going to Douillet???
@user-bg3gv1hg6o
@user-bg3gv1hg6o 4 жыл бұрын
きれいに決まってる
@carlosgrana
@carlosgrana 16 жыл бұрын
One of the biggest screwups in all judo history.
@KittieGeorge
@KittieGeorge 7 жыл бұрын
This referee didn't know the technique, Uchimata Sukashi and his name was recorded in history. At that time, all Japanese team are claiming Shinohara's ippon. They misunderstood Shinohara's ippon was downgraded to Shinohara's yuko. Later, Douilet confessed he might have lost at the moment while Shinohara is confident still now.
@evanburgess8428
@evanburgess8428 2 жыл бұрын
He landed on his ass, that isn't an ippon from my understanding
@user-ff1zj5sq8z
@user-ff1zj5sq8z 4 жыл бұрын
審判にイライラする動画、篠原のかっこよさがわかる動画。
@user-gz5uz5rs6s
@user-gz5uz5rs6s 4 жыл бұрын
有働さんこの少し涙ぐんだ事で アナウンサー失格だ!ってなって クビになりかけたなんて… 確かに冷静に原稿は読まなくちゃ いけないのかもだけど 私は人間らしくて感動したけどな
@honaru
@honaru 4 жыл бұрын
有働さんの反応がすべてを物語っていますね。全くの同感です。
@user-ln4bd5ry4u
@user-ln4bd5ry4u 4 жыл бұрын
涙ぐんで、人間が人間らしい反応を見せたら、クビになりかける、、、旧態依然の会社ですね、NHK。
@muscle_gain
@muscle_gain 2 жыл бұрын
It would help if you looked at Douillet's face when he was thrown by Uchimata sukashi. His face tells you that it was ippon for Shinohara.
@Fivizzz
@Fivizzz 11 жыл бұрын
I'm always having trouble figuring out scores on counter attacks, but that one was obvious. I can't understand how a pro referee couldn't see that.
@roko9197
@roko9197 7 жыл бұрын
misjudgtment UCHIMATA-SUKASHI without any question IPPON
@cedre2274
@cedre2274 3 жыл бұрын
A big, BIG SCANDAL.
@olivierfouassier6495
@olivierfouassier6495 2 жыл бұрын
On the replay clearly a ippon for Shinohara with a brilliant counter on Douillet’s Uchi Mata. That counter was beautiful Judo spirit, using the strength of the oponent. Pity that it finishes like that. That journalist will be unconsolable.
@wolfbomber
@wolfbomber 16 жыл бұрын
Second 12-13 ...100% IPPON for Shinohara, no doubt...
@cjam2198
@cjam2198 4 жыл бұрын
解説の人最高だな〜
@nzburger
@nzburger 7 жыл бұрын
Douillet was thrown, and he knew it...you can see by the look on his face when he sits up...bad sportsmanship...he knew he was thrown, he should have conceded
@lHurtYourFeeIings
@lHurtYourFeeIings 4 жыл бұрын
Not his job to judge himself.
@yayeet1746
@yayeet1746 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I dont think anyone would want to give up a chance at an olympic gold lmao
@travelleryu
@travelleryu 3 жыл бұрын
That happens rarely in professional sports.
@jeanlucwilain7662
@jeanlucwilain7662 2 жыл бұрын
The referees decide. Not the competitors.
@nzburger
@nzburger 2 жыл бұрын
@@lHurtYourFeeIings He knew he'd been beaten...it was pure bad sportsmanship....he always knows that his medal was not won, but given by a bad decision....the ref, who was from NZ, admitted later that he made a mistake. Sure, it happens, but Douillet know he lost
@Hi-ib9yt
@Hi-ib9yt 4 жыл бұрын
有働さんも篠原さんも闘ってたんですね。
@user-dj2me6nb9i
@user-dj2me6nb9i 4 жыл бұрын
H i テレビやってたね
@Hi-ib9yt
@Hi-ib9yt 4 жыл бұрын
焼肉食べたい TV観て来ました^_^ 引退知らされてたら、よく有働さん頑張ったって感じですよね。。 篠原さんも有働さんも更に好きになりました!
@user-lu8yy1ds1q
@user-lu8yy1ds1q 3 жыл бұрын
柔道はオリンピックに参加するべきではなかった。
@user-td1bt2sy5e
@user-td1bt2sy5e 6 жыл бұрын
解説の「こんな勝ち方でも喜ぶフランス人…」もなかなかやな
@penisu4545
@penisu4545 3 жыл бұрын
6:12ですね
@kh15th26
@kh15th26 3 жыл бұрын
関係無いわな
@user-mp8vm7xv9d
@user-mp8vm7xv9d 3 жыл бұрын
フランスどうこうじゃなくて本人の問題よなm
@user-ji2bp9jt9f
@user-ji2bp9jt9f 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-mp8vm7xv9d フランス人の観客が喜んでるから
@user-hf9vr1kh5z
@user-hf9vr1kh5z 4 жыл бұрын
誤審でアナウンサーも泣かすって凄いよなー!
@K00gr
@K00gr 16 жыл бұрын
i have seen worse misjudgements but never in a major bout like the olympic final! Shinohara shows great respect for referees and their decisions by not protesting or appealing, but that should be his gold medal!!
@mehdisovitch
@mehdisovitch 2 жыл бұрын
it's yuko the referee was right.
@hiro1979a
@hiro1979a 6 жыл бұрын
ホント、こんなんで勝ってうれしいのか? フランス人?
@nhjs77
@nhjs77 11 жыл бұрын
世紀の大誤診
@relaxinggamechannel483
@relaxinggamechannel483 2 жыл бұрын
世紀の大誤字
@mary-dm5to
@mary-dm5to 4 жыл бұрын
山下ヘッドコーチの冷静さ、コーチ陣関係者の姿にも泣ける。
@jpntechnostream505
@jpntechnostream505 2 жыл бұрын
まあ今のJOC会長・山下泰裕の無様さを見れば、この時も単に抗議する語学力がなく何もできなかっただけだったのかもなww
@takuokubo3498
@takuokubo3498 3 жыл бұрын
_人人人人人人人人人人_ >  金メダル返せ  <  ̄Y^Y^Y^Y^Y^Y^Y^Y^Y^Y  ̄
@lallope
@lallope 12 жыл бұрын
That was a clean ippon from a Uchi Mata Sukashi!
@pragma5475
@pragma5475 2 жыл бұрын
never !!!!! il l'a laché !!!! judo is not ju jitsu
@mario-vy5cg
@mario-vy5cg 2 жыл бұрын
悲しいけど、金メダリストでもみんなから忘れられます。 でも篠原の銀メダルはみんな忘れないです。
@blue52851
@blue52851 2 жыл бұрын
What a terrible misjudge. Is Douillet truly happy with his gold?
@yomismo6969
@yomismo6969 2 жыл бұрын
He is a politician now, sure he is happy
@user-il6mm8mi1n
@user-il6mm8mi1n 9 ай бұрын
かなりの年月が経ってても、この試合は悔しさ、無念さが込み上げますね。解説の方が話してる事に共感です。昔も今も篠原さん大好きです😊❤
@Filipeschmitz
@Filipeschmitz 16 жыл бұрын
Uchi mata sukashi, ippon for shinoraha! it's clear!
@davidmckeown9936
@davidmckeown9936 Жыл бұрын
Only one Judoka was there to fight, it wasn't the French guy. Shinohara is a really great example of a Japanese Judoka.
@aladicbojan5826
@aladicbojan5826 4 жыл бұрын
東京2020で日本人がフランス語を返す時が来ました
@relaxinggamechannel483
@relaxinggamechannel483 2 жыл бұрын
誰もが篠原の金メダルとして捉えてるから大丈夫 しかし試合後の篠原のコメントはほんと武士やな
@LoveCheeseBurger
@LoveCheeseBurger 4 жыл бұрын
Yaocho 八百長 Fixing
@gnnnkww
@gnnnkww 3 жыл бұрын
6:12 The commentator says "This is truely misjudgement. I can't underatand the French people can be happy under the circumstance." Totally agree.
@ringing2857
@ringing2857 6 жыл бұрын
篠原さんかっこいい尊敬します
@chucku00
@chucku00 12 жыл бұрын
Ok, clear ippon. Très beau contre de Shinohara.
@sxhyh919
@sxhyh919 4 жыл бұрын
審判の名前を世界に晒すべきだし、 ここもイエローへの差別が如実に出た結果でしょう。 日本の監督コーチのアピールも足りない。 良いか悪いかは別にして、韓国人なら畳に上がって試合止めるだろう。 ただこの結果が篠原さんの芸能界での現在の活躍につながってると言ってもいい。
@user-mv5go8xv7m
@user-mv5go8xv7m 6 жыл бұрын
篠原の態度、本当に男らしいわ。今の子は篠原のこと、フランケンシュタインみたいな顔の面白いおじさんとしか思ってないだろうな。
@rikoyan775
@rikoyan775 6 жыл бұрын
この試合内容で「自分が弱かったから負けたんです。」なんて言える選手は世界広しと言えど篠原しか居ないでしょう。
@user-li4tb5wk9t
@user-li4tb5wk9t 4 жыл бұрын
さりげなくディスってて草
@takataka5161
@takataka5161 Жыл бұрын
@@rikoyan775 俺だったら一生、あれは俺が勝ってたわぁ!って言うわ
@user-mv5go8xv7m
@user-mv5go8xv7m 6 жыл бұрын
アナウンサーも悔しかったのかな
@user-xd9jq9dx3h
@user-xd9jq9dx3h 29 күн бұрын
抗議するなら負けてから言うよりもすぐに抗議すべき
@cancan3258-v5t
@cancan3258-v5t 3 жыл бұрын
柔道授業でしかやったことないけど篠原さんの一本だって分かるわ。
@konya_ga_yama
@konya_ga_yama Жыл бұрын
同じく。内から技かけに行ってあんなに体が回転して背中から落ちた事ないわ😂
@johnmurphy7674
@johnmurphy7674 2 жыл бұрын
That's how France win medals...
@yomismo6969
@yomismo6969 2 жыл бұрын
Tedy in 2016 finals is another example.
@johnmurphy7674
@johnmurphy7674 2 жыл бұрын
@@yomismo6969 Yes it is. Cheat nation.
@JudoLife
@JudoLife 9 жыл бұрын
From the referees view I agree the Yuko score, from one corner judges view I agree the Ippon by sukashi, to Shinohara. Douillet was lucky, a corner judge sat on his hands instead of intervention. The IJF referees seminar agreed later when watching the video from 4 directions that no score should have been given. But my personal view was with Japan. This result of a score depends on the luck of proximity view of corner judges caused the video referee to be taken seriously. It's so important in kaeshi waza or counter throws, to have a balanced view from both sides. The top and this view favoured Shinohara
@MoneyOverFame
@MoneyOverFame 9 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@PaBien
@PaBien 8 жыл бұрын
Looking at this move several times in a row, I told myself that it was a tie, and that no score should be given in such a case. So I am happy to see that IJF referees agree with this. :) This victory is indeed dictated by luck, by it would have been the same if Shinohara won, as none of him or Douillet was able to force the victory Maybe a rule could state be that when one referee gives ippon to one judoka, and the other ones give something else for the other judoka, there should be no score given at all.
@Teeman44
@Teeman44 7 ай бұрын
I’m sorry but how does IJF say no point on this one??? That’s a terrible call… If IJF admitted it was ippon by Shinohara they would be admitting a completely wrong judge so they agreed to say no call to just save their face.
@RexDeus45
@RexDeus45 17 жыл бұрын
this is why video replay should be allowed in big tournaments.referees see one thing everyone else sees another.shinohara did scored ippon..douillet did land on his back.i don't know why the judges didn't counter the call.
@alods
@alods 16 жыл бұрын
Uchi mata sukashi!!!! Victory of blue!!
@monzahide4880
@monzahide4880 3 жыл бұрын
Check out the video to see why this misjudgment happened. At that moment, the referee was only looking at Shinohara. Apparently the referee overlooked Douillet rolling.
@ciaoamoremio777
@ciaoamoremio777 13 жыл бұрын
Before judging about the result of this match, I am wondering how many people here know about what Uchimata sukashi is like and how this technique can be applied....
@philipperoue2680
@philipperoue2680 3 жыл бұрын
What a shame for the referee ! Shinohara won an ippon. Not very proud to be french...
@macbrink
@macbrink 15 жыл бұрын
Shiohara was just too fast for the judges to understand his excellent uchi-mata-sukashi.
@mr03911gt1
@mr03911gt1 4 жыл бұрын
影浦がリネールにやってくれた!
@carlito7785
@carlito7785 12 жыл бұрын
I'm French, but I can't tell anything else that it seems you're wright, guys : Shinohara had won the gold medal. I just hope Teddy Riner's gonna win without discussion. GO TEDDY GO !
@romadt
@romadt 14 жыл бұрын
OMG it was IPPON!!!!
@LAURENTSCT
@LAURENTSCT 13 жыл бұрын
il n'y a absolument aucun doute pour tous les judokas connaissant un minimum le judo, c'est ippon pour Shinohara. Mais le plus important c'est le comportement exemplaire du champion japonais depuis lors, c'est un grand exemple de ce que doit être le shin. There is absolutely no doubt for judokas knowing a minimum the judo, it's an ippon for Shinohara . But the most important is the exemplary behaviour of the Japanese champion since then, it's a great example of what should be the shin.
@jusgent
@jusgent 12 жыл бұрын
The judgment of this chief referee should have been revised soon after this match. The problem is how referees recognize the importance of the standardization in refereeing and exclude personal or local judgment. The distortion should be corrected in real time.
@MTGBR
@MTGBR 16 жыл бұрын
Uchi-mata is not a Massutemi-waza. For me, Shinohara's left arm(as the slow motion shows clearly) is the responsable for the ippon. Shinohara wins the match.
@Dog-vn4jm
@Dog-vn4jm 3 жыл бұрын
2:30 でもポイントをもらおうとアピールしてますね。 強引すぎます…投げてないのに。
@k-o3505
@k-o3505 3 жыл бұрын
フランス人は恥ずかしくないのか?サッカーにしてもとんでもないラフプレーしてたしな。
@judoka1976
@judoka1976 15 жыл бұрын
No, I meant that it was weird that he said that. I thought that most of the japanese where very proud. I know the difference between the two of them. Great judokas the two of them.
@bullyflea
@bullyflea 16 жыл бұрын
This was an Olympic match. Obviously the referees were ignorant. They did not even know what Shinohara did!!! Europian Judo is very different from Japanese Judo, so are referees. It's all about power. Skills, courtesy or tradition doesn't seem to be that important.
@mimmomonaco1410
@mimmomonaco1410 Жыл бұрын
Arbitraggio vergognoso. Anche da parte del secondo giudice di sedia che non si è espresso. Il rotolamento di Douillet è pienamente sulla schiena e molto veloce anche se non controllato pienamente nel finale. Come MINIMO c' era Wazari, se consideriamo questo ultimo aspetto. Molto dubbio anche il secondo Yuko per Douillet.
@ronen124
@ronen124 4 жыл бұрын
0:07 a very controversial ippon, David Douillet started it but later fell on his back after 180 degrees turn because of the torque force driven by Shinohara
@fabiendelaunay7271
@fabiendelaunay7271 2 жыл бұрын
Yes exacty.
@xxxxShakespearexxxx
@xxxxShakespearexxxx 13 жыл бұрын
Douillet lost of course
@kungfubryan
@kungfubryan 15 жыл бұрын
Shinohara did not have control of his opponent during that uchimatasukashi. He barely kept his own back off the mat.
@heIIobuss
@heIIobuss 15 жыл бұрын
if someone purposely jump and fall on his back when the match starts, would it be ippon for the opponent?
@wrongimpressionist
@wrongimpressionist 16 жыл бұрын
He's the best in holding the belt and kata-eri.
@stupidcbed1
@stupidcbed1 14 жыл бұрын
wish there were subtitles
@SuperKenster1
@SuperKenster1 12 жыл бұрын
Anton Geesink, and Wilhem Ruska faced this type of controversy because they would modify their techniques to accomidate European anatomy.
@gcmercier
@gcmercier 11 жыл бұрын
Yeah looks like a clear ippon on the counter to Douillet's uchi mata.
@cuongviettranFL
@cuongviettranFL 5 жыл бұрын
If there is no ippon for Uchimata Sukashi , that should not be a Yoko either .Feel sorry for Shinohara. For people who said there is no Ippon because of no control (please watch the clip again until you see Shinohara right hand grabbed David’s Gi (left hand) to drive him to the right ,Shinohara‘s left hand also made some support power by pushing toward or to the left before he lifted his leg to finish Uchimata Sukashi . Correct me if I say something wrong or unclear .
@MoneyOverFame
@MoneyOverFame 2 жыл бұрын
if it wasnt ippon for shinohara what else could it be ? douillet literally did a front flip onto his back lol..
@mimmomonaco1410
@mimmomonaco1410 Жыл бұрын
Se non è Ippon, come MINIMO è Wazari. Il rotolamento sulla schiena è pieno, non può essere assolutamente yuko
@Teeman44
@Teeman44 7 ай бұрын
When you look at video, the correct call is Shinohara ippon via uchimata sukashi. Bad call would be only yuko awarded to Shinohara. A terrible call would be no point awarded for neither. Wrong call is point awarded to Douillet… Unfortunately wrong call was made… Bad calls happen at every level of sports and unfortunately it happened at the Olympic gold medal match…
@DragonOne1
@DragonOne1 14 жыл бұрын
This was clearly Uchimata-Tsukiashi; by the master of this technique himself, I have met with Shinohara since being here in Japan. It was apart of a Judo Demonstration, I sat and I asked him about it, and to this day he still thinks such is unforgivable. However, the Japanese people have honor, he accepted it because we judoka understand the honor code. To me David Douillet is not a true judoka.
@DJFEUDINGSTATE511
@DJFEUDINGSTATE511 15 жыл бұрын
This has nothing to do with Japan or France. Shinohara obviously and evidently had a ippon. I don't know what ref was looking at nor the judges. I believe Shinohara was robbed from his victory. Both fighters trained hard until this moment in Olympic history and to lose like that must be the worst feeling ever. Winning like that is also unsatisfactory as well. A victory with controversy hanging on it. They both Lost. Thanks Olympic Judges
@tilikatheman
@tilikatheman 15 жыл бұрын
and as my nobel and grate trainer says if the judge f...u up you gotta make up 4 it, and i know how it feels when people don't win couse that experience costed me the EC last year
@givemesomething
@givemesomething 12 жыл бұрын
Judo includes the fair spirit which we call 「武道(budou」 we wont claim if we lost fairly. we are different with Korea.
@sagami_naoya
@sagami_naoya 4 жыл бұрын
テレビから
@guigui70300
@guigui70300 15 жыл бұрын
Je suis vraiment pour David Douillet, je l'adore mais il y avait ippon, il faut le reconnaître.
@Grove2000
@Grove2000 14 жыл бұрын
It shouldn't even have been a Yuko for Douillet either, a Koka at best..
@ducasan
@ducasan 15 жыл бұрын
shameful!
@fabien7761
@fabien7761 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry but the technic was not controled, so Shinohara lost control --> no Uchimata-sukashi. but no yoko for Douillet neither
@youradhereraves
@youradhereraves 16 жыл бұрын
wow what beutiful counter. shinohara should have got the ippon. o well, did anyone see the japanese reporterchick at the end alost in tears?!?
@elbowtko
@elbowtko 14 жыл бұрын
@hayek218 Ipad was never really originally American. We just use our powerfull military might to copyright things and make it ours. Same reason why mongolians don't get any credit in judo
@kantarou47
@kantarou47 14 жыл бұрын
@elbowtko you don't understand about the history of judo. For example, kata guruma comes from bushi's fight.
@judoka1976
@judoka1976 15 жыл бұрын
Did Shinohara said that for real?...wierd...
@jiwankumarsharma
@jiwankumarsharma 15 жыл бұрын
worst ever decision in judo history at Olympics. Shinohara was always a winner.. great yamashita n saito's helpless protest without effecting refereeing commission.
@perez6736
@perez6736 15 жыл бұрын
i believed he was robbed... even the other ref on the chair said it was ippon
@insanevzn1
@insanevzn1 15 жыл бұрын
How was 4:38 a big mistake? It wasnt a false attack or anything like that. And at 6:01 just because you roll out of a throw like that DOES NOT mean anything. That still counts as a throw. Thats like getting thrown with a tomanage and landing on your feet so your back doesnt touch the ground, its STILL considered an ippon. And not all head referees are all that good. A lot of judoka dont want to be refs. I am a shodan from one of the biggest clubs in the US if that helps.
@dimitrivisse3029
@dimitrivisse3029 2 жыл бұрын
With slow motion, it seems right japanese's shoulder fell before both french's shoulder fell. Above this, Time still ran, japanese could Come back but he didn't
@judoka1
@judoka1 17 жыл бұрын
Ippon for Shinohara san no doubt, what troubles me is that New Zealander ref is still referring international tournaments!!
@mehdisovitch
@mehdisovitch 2 жыл бұрын
If it was ippon the video referee will correct the decision, nothing to say Douillet deserves it.
@SlugDropsonheads
@SlugDropsonheads 14 жыл бұрын
Why was the lady crying in the end??
@xefef
@xefef 14 жыл бұрын
@hayek218 Look... I agree with you... The referee made a mistake and Douillet should have lost. Now if you don't count this accident. David Douillet is: 4 Times World Champion. Olympic champion once. Europe champion. Excuse me but he is a titan. Only 3 other judoka won 4 WOrld champion title in history. David douillet is a TITAN!!!! The argument is over ;)
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