Shion and Coco's Casual Chat Classroom (Eng Sub) [Hololive]

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Hertan

Hertan

4 жыл бұрын

Shion decides that Coco is being too formal with her, and tries to bring their relationship closer by teaching Coco a thing or two about Japanese. This may be the origin of all of the "Shion yo!" comments that have been appearing in her streams as of late.
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Translator Notes
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I took some liberties with the translation in an attempt to use similar concepts that apply to English. The exception mainly being the particle 'yo', which doesn't really have an equivalent in English. Take it at face value here that adding it to the end of a sentence can make it sound more casual, but obviously Coco took that to the extreme by interlacing it everywhere throughout her sentences.
I explicitly added all the subsequent uses of 'yo', as in most cases, either Coco adds it deliberately, or she reacts when Shion uses it.
3:30 - Shion is either being tongue in cheek here, or is deliberately misleading Coco. There are many situations in Japan where you would be expected to speak formally, e.g. speaking to a senior. She goes back on her words when Coco deliberately misinterprets how to behave, and the chat certainly calls her out on this as well.
6:00 - "Paisen" is a cheeky way of saying "Senpai", which is used here to address her senior. Throwing away the honorifics is a way to show that they are more intimate.
11:33 - Shion mentions an accent (訛り namari), but Coco starts talking about lead balls (鉛玉 namari dama).
13:27 - As far as I'm aware, Coco just trails off into gibberish here.
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Sources
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Original stream: Polite language is forbidden after the casual chat classroom! (Feb 7 2020)
• 【#紫龍組】ため口教室の後は敬語禁止!試され...
VTubers featured:
Kiryu Coco: / @kiryucoco
/ kiryucoco
Murasaki Shion: / @murasakishion
/ murasakishionch
#KiryuCoco #MurasakiShion #VTuberEN #桐生ココ #紫咲シオン

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@Hertan
@Hertan 4 жыл бұрын
Hey everyone, translator here! I've tried to make this video accessible regardless of your knowledge of Japanese. Understanding some of the common particles may make things a bit easier, but Shion does a decent job at explaining, so you may even be able to learn a thing or two here! I've also listened to your feedback, and have made a few changes this time around: 1. Translation notes moved to the description. The TN notes were sometimes quite distracting / taking up too much space. I could also use them as a crux, rather than conveying the information better through the subtitles. However, many of you really did like them, and I think its great to provide extra context, so I'll be sticking any notes in the description from now on. Be sure to check it out! 2. Translate less literally. This is partly tied into the first point. To help convey any extra context needed, I've tried to explain better what is going on using the subs, without detracting from the original meaning. I've also tried to make the subs flow a bit more naturally in places. 3. Reduced unnecessary subtitles. Again to help with readibility, I'm cutting back on subtitling some parts, e.g. laughter, so that it doesn't distract from the actual translations. These may make a return in some cases where there are multiple voices, and it is hard to discern who is laughing, say. Let me know what you think of these, and if you have any other suggestions. Cheers!
@flix2706
@flix2706 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks yo
@suzu9404
@suzu9404 4 жыл бұрын
Great job with the TL- it’s a tough clip to do well.
@captainspiridon9816
@captainspiridon9816 4 жыл бұрын
I never fully understood how the ending particles work, so thank you for translating this clip. It helps a lot.
@_car5323
@_car5323 4 жыл бұрын
Great job masumashita dayo!
@132oink
@132oink 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer you to still translate literally, tl notes in video are a nice touch, I hate when people put them in the description or comments
@cursedex80
@cursedex80 4 жыл бұрын
- "You want to cross *that* line with me?" - "Yeah!" - "ºoº"
@arsnohachikoi1767
@arsnohachikoi1767 4 жыл бұрын
There was no doubt, there was no babbling, just pure desire
@endlesshope1108
@endlesshope1108 4 жыл бұрын
Top 10 poggers moments in Coco's entire life
@huninnmuginn5337
@huninnmuginn5337 4 жыл бұрын
The Origin of "Shion...yo"
@FSN
@FSN 4 жыл бұрын
It's cute how much Shion likes Coco. She seems so delighted.
@Tremulousnut
@Tremulousnut 4 жыл бұрын
The brat and the shitposter is a perfect match.
@AnimeFun4Every1
@AnimeFun4Every1 4 жыл бұрын
There are untranslated animated clips showing these two's dynamic. (Nice profile pic btw)
@Tremulousnut
@Tremulousnut 4 жыл бұрын
@@AnimeFun4Every1 "Shion yo"
@NotSomeJustinWithoutAMoustache
@NotSomeJustinWithoutAMoustache 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tremulousnut lmao kinda' reminds me of Subaru's imitation stream lol
@PsionicDude
@PsionicDude 4 жыл бұрын
Seventeen years of intense anime training have prepared me to understand how silly this dragon sounds while speaking Japaneseyo. Also that virtual chalkboard is really cool.
@thekuuderedude1737
@thekuuderedude1737 4 жыл бұрын
It's really just a pen like style for software and the green is just a layer
@DragonFireStrike
@DragonFireStrike 4 жыл бұрын
Thats not a nice thing to call Shion!
@PsionicDude
@PsionicDude 4 жыл бұрын
@@DragonFireStrike LOL... I did say it was cool, didn't I? I have no regrets.
@skaa5515
@skaa5515 4 жыл бұрын
Shion laugh is really healing
@novice1014
@novice1014 4 жыл бұрын
Shion + Ayame = World Peace
@cyrene03
@cyrene03 4 жыл бұрын
YES
@livedandletdie
@livedandletdie 4 жыл бұрын
All laughs are healing... but most healing laugh is anyone but mine... after all as soon as I laugh my chest muscles start to cramp... that's what an inactive lifestyle does to you...
@BintangAz
@BintangAz 4 жыл бұрын
Ok , I will fly to heaven 😇
@Wyui2711
@Wyui2711 4 жыл бұрын
Character development yo
@livedandletdie
@livedandletdie 4 жыл бұрын
Nice yo, joke yo, I yo, like yo, it yo...
@oddacity5883
@oddacity5883 4 жыл бұрын
It’s like the Chika Fujiwara rap all over again
@mortalunknown8304
@mortalunknown8304 4 жыл бұрын
Coco is really trolling so much to Shion and it is funny.
@yoursonisold8743
@yoursonisold8743 4 жыл бұрын
I mean Shion's just playing along. She knows how to make jokes work.
@-nomi.-
@-nomi.- 4 жыл бұрын
they both know that coco knows but it makes for such a good bit
@MrFreakHeavy
@MrFreakHeavy 4 жыл бұрын
Is this why she had this Ark stream where she thanked all her super chats by saying their names+yo? lmao that's interesting context.
@yvastel8153
@yvastel8153 4 жыл бұрын
4:16 So this is the start of the odd ship, huh.
@yoursonisold8743
@yoursonisold8743 4 жыл бұрын
Coco seems excited for the future.
@rkbrillant5265
@rkbrillant5265 4 жыл бұрын
Lol so this is when Shion and Coco became a thing and not when she sold her that Asacoco suppository that started to hurt? Nicesu
@blazznfire8685
@blazznfire8685 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah!
@polygonspiral2900
@polygonspiral2900 4 жыл бұрын
NIGERUNDAYO, SMOKEY
@TheCuratedCache
@TheCuratedCache 4 жыл бұрын
I thought a tsundere and a yankee girl won't be in good terms but here it is
@birdkun21
@birdkun21 4 жыл бұрын
This is the birth of シオンよ。。
@Ketchup_And_Rice
@Ketchup_And_Rice 4 жыл бұрын
I love the Coco-Shion chemistry its a funny combination
@aninggga
@aninggga 4 жыл бұрын
Anime language + short pause + *yo*
@darklight1797
@darklight1797 3 жыл бұрын
Kaichou's Japanese has improved so much over one year, I am inspired to try harder.
@lazycat7053
@lazycat7053 4 жыл бұрын
That was a great vid yo. Thanks for translating yo.
@plastic_love_
@plastic_love_ 4 жыл бұрын
KA yo
@lazycat7053
@lazycat7053 4 жыл бұрын
@@plastic_love_ oh just noticed xD Yo
@e50013
@e50013 4 жыл бұрын
we need more cocoshion streams i love this pair, yo
@yoursonisold8743
@yoursonisold8743 4 жыл бұрын
Their Super Bunnyman streams are already legendary.
@FreedomSylph
@FreedomSylph 4 жыл бұрын
@@yoursonisold8743 I dont know who else can fly in super bunnyman except these two
@kangtheguardian1214
@kangtheguardian1214 4 жыл бұрын
5:56 Anyone else find Coco's little head tilt and smile to the camera here cute?
@ManjigumiVirus
@ManjigumiVirus 3 жыл бұрын
Feels like yesterday
@ExDragonMaster
@ExDragonMaster 4 жыл бұрын
To make this even funnier, in general, adding yo at the end of a sentence is generally used in informal speak, and/or for emphasis on something. However, you almost never use it after a name. In anime context, you usually use "yo" after a name if you're either: - Speaking archaically in a historical or fantasy setting - An old-fashioned gangster/mobster/banchou/sukeban that likes to speak old fashioned (like Okuyasu from Jojo)
@FreedomSylph
@FreedomSylph 4 жыл бұрын
You usually heard it in rpg like "yuusha yo" which translates to O Hero. Coco using Shion yo makes it sounded like O Shion
@livedandletdie
@livedandletdie 4 жыл бұрын
I bet Coco did it just for the lulz... after all she does a lot just for the lulz...
@ExDragonMaster
@ExDragonMaster 4 жыл бұрын
@@FreedomSylph That's how I usually hear it. Which only makes Coco doing it FAR more funny.
@winsonzhu4427
@winsonzhu4427 4 жыл бұрын
"Oi, Shion! *insert meme here* Ain't that crazy!?"
@akoudagawa5684
@akoudagawa5684 4 жыл бұрын
10:44 Blessed
@verniy2437
@verniy2437 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like i actually learned some japanese watching this
@kairou_mikael
@kairou_mikael 4 жыл бұрын
Wakaru yo~
@johnrodrodvelasquez
@johnrodrodvelasquez 4 жыл бұрын
Yabai.. yo
@Selphos
@Selphos 4 жыл бұрын
Suddenly I'm fluent in Japanese. Thanks, Shion yo!
@AnimeFun4Every1
@AnimeFun4Every1 4 жыл бұрын
I love these two's dynamic. Shion is the senpai but it feels like she's a little sister to Coco. Shion laughs make my heart beat.
@ngocphuongpham7763
@ngocphuongpham7763 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, shion is rly GF material
@sorarisu6673
@sorarisu6673 4 жыл бұрын
6:08 best conversation I’ve ever heard
@AnomalousMats
@AnomalousMats 4 жыл бұрын
Takes me back to the "Cipher the Video" days.
@sapilaut2
@sapilaut2 3 жыл бұрын
I thought all this time the "Shion yo..." bit was part of the character setting, her being an ancient witch or something. Turns out it was memed to existence. Dammit Coco
@damester13
@damester13 4 жыл бұрын
I swear to god, I'm very much impressed with Kaichou's consistent use of formal speech when talking to everyone. Don't know how long she's been in Japan but it's just impressive to me since I can't get used to speaking formally in Japanese myself.
@livedandletdie
@livedandletdie 4 жыл бұрын
Everything in life takes time but it's better that way.
@Hwyadylaw
@Hwyadylaw 4 жыл бұрын
I have a hard time speaking casual Japanese. I need that sonkeigo/kenjougo in my life. シオン先生、ご教示お願いいたします!
@hokannin
@hokannin 4 жыл бұрын
I think she mentioned it in one of her Ark stream that she has only lived in Japan for 6 months. yet she's pretty much feels like a Japanese already damn. she learn so fecking quick
@Hwyadylaw
@Hwyadylaw 4 жыл бұрын
@@hokannin I assume she spoke Japanese before moving to Japan
@nocturnallight2640
@nocturnallight2640 4 жыл бұрын
McDucky she definitely knew Japanese before moving.
@Zestyable
@Zestyable 4 жыл бұрын
I like the unique colors for the subs. Nice job.
@Hertan
@Hertan 4 жыл бұрын
Zestyable If you look closely, you’ll spot that I used the colours of Coco’s horn for her subs
@Zestyable
@Zestyable 4 жыл бұрын
@@Hertan Ah. I was looking at her hair. I do like Coco essentially ended up with ketchup and mustard colors.
@funk_u_up2720
@funk_u_up2720 4 жыл бұрын
Learning Keigo with coco is something I never thought I'd see I can't wait to learn passive and grammar structure with her Also mad props for TLing this with the lack of Keigo in English it must have been a nightmare
@jasongu508
@jasongu508 4 жыл бұрын
This is actually really interesting. They never teach u this stuff at school or Japanese courses since they just teach u the formal grammar and sentence structure while telling u to just use this for everybody since u can't offend anyone. But realistically nobody really talks like that with close colleagues/friends/lovers so knowing how to conduct casual speech is fairly important.
@Zambrano2199
@Zambrano2199 4 жыл бұрын
Asian honorifics in genetal just teach the overly formal way, not bothering to teach the intimate/casual way of speaking. Also japanese is hard with the multiple levels of honorics it hurts my brain sometimes.
@wanderingphy313
@wanderingphy313 4 жыл бұрын
Idk what book you are learning but almost every single one will include an informal speech lesson sooner or later
@lukeeichenlaub3183
@lukeeichenlaub3183 4 жыл бұрын
@@wanderingphy313 If you have any knowledge of the formal Japanese, you'll eventually figure out how to modify that into something more informal.
@Unb3arablePain
@Unb3arablePain 4 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, in English: "You are all equally worthless"
@Finsternis..
@Finsternis.. 4 жыл бұрын
​@@Unb3arablePain English used to have a informal way to adress a person, thou, but it fell out of favor for you at some point. So, one could argue we are always adressing each other in a formal way. On a side note, which I at least consider humorous in this context: in the German language, while we still use different pronouns in formal and informal speech. Globalists, among others, want to get rid of the formal form in favor of the informal form, reasoning that "this is how it in works in English as well".
@tokidoki9261
@tokidoki9261 4 жыл бұрын
so that's why Coco calls her "Shion,yo":o
@RadicalGaming1000
@RadicalGaming1000 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not even 2 minutes in and Coco is already savage af
@Necroneer
@Necroneer 4 жыл бұрын
Really love Shion's yeah and laugh, yo.
@yinmiyamura
@yinmiyamura 4 жыл бұрын
"Nihongo jouzu" Words of horror from Dogen
@-Raylight
@-Raylight 4 жыл бұрын
4:14 I think Shion missed Coco's joke entirely ~yo xD I thought ~yo suffix is only Tokyo's dialect, while ~yade ~yanen is Kansai's
@SynAstra
@SynAstra 4 жыл бұрын
Shion's giggles are too precious HNNNNG
@-gama527
@-gama527 4 жыл бұрын
This episode of miss murasaki's dragon waifu was really good! 今日の紫咲さんちのドラゴンワイフのエピソードは本当に楽しかったです!
@synalra2388
@synalra2388 4 жыл бұрын
Shion yo . . . Thank you so much for translating this! I've been waiting for someone to do this. This was the moment that started the "Shion yo . . ." meme
@chandler0014
@chandler0014 4 жыл бұрын
Coco said what she likes is pizza and Shion. I like this pair. it's fun to watch them.
@Kaz61251
@Kaz61251 4 жыл бұрын
4:08 6:52 7:18 RARE surprised Coco
@ttank0_0
@ttank0_0 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your work and the insight.
@Pongo99
@Pongo99 4 жыл бұрын
this is great, i always wondered where did the Shion yo.. came from, thanks for your great work yo!
@cyrene03
@cyrene03 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for translating!
@PK_Scratch
@PK_Scratch 4 жыл бұрын
Considering 1:12 and all those oppai punches, I'm not surprised about 4:15.
@Forakus
@Forakus 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic work translating this, that was great
@RadicalGaming1000
@RadicalGaming1000 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading this, yo
@Sincere_Anon
@Sincere_Anon 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for translating a Shion video! I need a sensei like Shion in my life
@tinypopura
@tinypopura 4 жыл бұрын
I've learned more from this than 2 weeks of duolingo. Wow.
@invluo3219
@invluo3219 4 жыл бұрын
9:55 stroke order... lol
@banjofries
@banjofries 2 жыл бұрын
I laughed so hard at this. I think at about the 3rd "よ" or so Shion wanted to say something but ended up よing along for the ride.
@M4TTYN
@M4TTYN 4 жыл бұрын
man watching all the Vtubers to great translated clips has me so intrigued to listening to how words are pronounced very interesting to i lurk non english streaming on Twitch too love the Vtubers also try to teach slightly (love u asacoco) and aid to their western audience i love that big boob funny dragon and all translators
@bigjack7908
@bigjack7908 4 жыл бұрын
2:44 ayame?!?!
@hokannin
@hokannin 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so fucking much for translating this!
@nocturnallight2640
@nocturnallight2640 4 жыл бұрын
Something about that, "でかいぱいぱいぱいました" is so funny. I keep coming back to this video of that line, and the talking casually line in the beginning.
@zornor
@zornor 4 жыл бұрын
Great subs yo. This vid is something that I'm sure any Japanese learner will appreciate yo. Perhaps not so much if they're a total beginner yo. But that's the trouble with translation yo. btw, this doesn't really change the meaning of the sentence much, but at 10:37 Coco says 調子 not 助詞
@mukaonline3
@mukaonline3 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you yo
@mostofs8365
@mostofs8365 4 жыл бұрын
They're like sisters who haven't seen each other for 10 years Yo
@frogstranger9605
@frogstranger9605 4 жыл бұрын
1:58 cute
@spiralhalo
@spiralhalo 4 жыл бұрын
This is actually very educational.
@booates
@booates 4 жыл бұрын
yo~
@user-we4kf5xm5u
@user-we4kf5xm5u 4 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of my old stomping grounds in Osaka whenever someone from Tokyo would transfer (you would think that they’d like it in the city)
@Thunderdude135
@Thunderdude135 4 жыл бұрын
This is some hilarious stuff right here yo lol
@antikumo
@antikumo 4 жыл бұрын
an unexpected wholesome duo
@Kaoru_MaiAmeTsuchi9683
@Kaoru_MaiAmeTsuchi9683 4 жыл бұрын
"よ:Yo" is likely to Gestaltzerfall,Yo.
@Sanjou35P
@Sanjou35P 4 жыл бұрын
13:29 komarayakoya
@MaxKnight007
@MaxKnight007 4 жыл бұрын
The foundations of casual Japanese language is "YO" I learned a lot
@beemoescarmew
@beemoescarmew 4 жыл бұрын
coco got jouzu'd
@zemeio1184
@zemeio1184 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, this video is the best thing that happened to me in some time. You have some guts translating such a metalanguage-nihongo-heavy conversation! I agree with you on 13:27. It seems like she said desu, regreted, tried to fix and ended up in gibberish. Though it does seem somewhat suspiciously similar do konoyarou, I think its just a coincidence = ).
@runescapemafia08
@runescapemafia08 4 жыл бұрын
I like how when she wrote "7 days to die" really cleanly and then look at her し。
@w2kify
@w2kify 4 жыл бұрын
@Dogen たすけてぇぇぇ, I have no idea how much of this is legit good advice or more likely to get me into a bar fight.
@dionrizqi
@dionrizqi 4 жыл бұрын
"yo..." *EVOOLLLTOOOOOO*
@bakk3731
@bakk3731 4 жыл бұрын
and when in doubt, NNNEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
@renookami4651
@renookami4651 4 жыл бұрын
*confusion intensifies, yo*
@canadiangopnik7007
@canadiangopnik7007 4 жыл бұрын
I think the better question at this point is who is Shion NOT dating in Hololive
@zeriel9148
@zeriel9148 4 жыл бұрын
>7 Days to Die stream I really wish I knew japanese right now
@HelpMe2766
@HelpMe2766 4 жыл бұрын
shion yo...
@ConsNSG
@ConsNSG 4 жыл бұрын
Shionyo...
@WeLoveWeeter
@WeLoveWeeter 4 жыл бұрын
Shion yo...
@Lazuardinho
@Lazuardinho 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know coco Japanese used to have very thick accent lol
@mfwiloseintouhoubossfights9305
@mfwiloseintouhoubossfights9305 4 жыл бұрын
Kokodayo *shivers*
@dragonchang4979
@dragonchang4979 4 жыл бұрын
シオンよ...
@mortalunknown8304
@mortalunknown8304 4 жыл бұрын
Coco is singing now
@jonconnor0729
@jonconnor0729 Жыл бұрын
Shion yo.
@migi9211
@migi9211 4 жыл бұрын
So this is the origin of "Shion yo"
@Syn0nym.
@Syn0nym. 4 жыл бұрын
1:59 just a little wink
@jive7391
@jive7391 4 жыл бұрын
Great video yo
@d3nyd
@d3nyd 4 жыл бұрын
YEEEEEAH
@Seiza25
@Seiza25 4 жыл бұрын
Coco-yoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
@seiyu543
@seiyu543 4 жыл бұрын
8:59 lmao shion replied felt like someone that got embarassed when her crush called her intimately
@charleslol3613
@charleslol3613 4 жыл бұрын
I remember listening to Japanese once and thinking about how there were many "yo"s at the end of sentences
@lostdestroyer8400
@lostdestroyer8400 3 жыл бұрын
cocoshion
@reya012
@reya012 4 жыл бұрын
I ship those two.
@ed1659
@ed1659 3 жыл бұрын
Shion kusogaki meter: 100%yo
@mika-zd7th
@mika-zd7th 4 жыл бұрын
yeah
@magic_cfw
@magic_cfw 4 жыл бұрын
kokodayo
@monsterlair
@monsterlair 4 жыл бұрын
Wakkaridayo XD
@extrashifty578
@extrashifty578 4 жыл бұрын
so me in the morning greeting everyone yo,yo.
@LemonMann
@LemonMann 4 жыл бұрын
the YO is too strong on this one...
@kszk01
@kszk01 4 жыл бұрын
NIGERUNDA YO
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