Like most of us, I'm looking forward to release of SQ42. As a single person, more on the rails, complete game will it be VR friendly? Using Virtual Desktop and the 'Reality Mixer' app, (£9 on Steam), can we use HOTAS and a tablet for Game Glass whilst enjoying the game in VR? I hope ur planning to test my good sir. :)

@@errolmc Had to check that Reality Mixer out...very cool, my guy!

I heard someone say fortnite is the closest to RP1🤮

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bdRlmMJm3tu0pGg.htmlsi=aN0oyGmiDt0-h-O4 I made a working model for fully implemented VR control. CIG can and will have it through Vulkan/OpenXR.

Definitely a deep playground with a variety of cool things to get up to in VR

It's a well-realized world, but I think vrchat is much closer to the oasis. It's much more "be who you want" and "visit any type of world" like the oasis. Star citizen is very much one type of self-contained world.

@ChrisCypher star citizen currently has one playable system but will have more than a hundred to populate with its playerbase

Yeah, SC would prolly fit in the Oasis as one of the "worlds" or universes.

Counter argument: VRchat

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Sure, but listening with bose hurts my ears. Way too much treble. In any case, definitely subscribed! Loved the vid

Couldn't agree more!

mine would be full of lint/hair after 3 days causing me to walk right off the mat . think i would have to make a nasa grade clean room for it

You are a trooper, sir!

Definitely be a good start..but even that is pretty complex to integrate.

I think there's a mod for that

Yeah I've heard about that and I'm disappointed I missed it.

No doubt..folks sing the HL praises, high & low. Most VR games get by w/the minimum. SC is a different beast tho. No compromises.

Quest... ROTFL. You can do much better than that. Oculus shouldn't be anybody's goto, since they walled gardened themselves into oblivion. Let's start with something that is native to an open source system, so it isn't another problem to solve. There's plenty to choose from.

@@TheNefariousFoxI already own a Quest 2 and most everything else in the build. My goal is to spend as little as possible, but still get 80% or more of the same experience as the most expensive setups. "80/20"

@@1blackone I can't argue with that!

I played AC years ago in the oculus DK1 when it was supported. The support was jank af, but it worked.

I appreciate that, my friend.

Glad ya dig it

Right on, errol!

As long as I had food in the house I'd never leave

AYYY! Big thanks Bawse. Thanks for coming back after the re-upload

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Yeah it's still in development, so who knows what this early version has behind the curtain. They're not balls tho...array of spinning, shifting discs

@@DigThat32 ah thought it looked like balls. I hope it can be commercialized either way.

Me neither

I was playing with my brand new Quest 3, And I was so into the game I had forgotten I broke a rib recently. It started hurting a couple hours in, so I checked my character's health. And then I was disappointed that it was my real rib and not my game rib. I actually want pain in my games, the more the better.

Lmao! what?! I guess OWO's Skin is just right for ya!

@@DigThat32 Lot cheaper than buying a Tesla Optimus robot and programming it to punch me at the right times.

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@@DigThat32 This gives me a business idea. Turning up the haptic suits to 11 to sell to crayon eating Marines. They are going to love it. 🤑

Yes indeed!

That's some hands free flying right there

@@DigThat32 lol! That's flying by the seat of your pants!!

If you look at the advancements that the Apple Vision Pro has shown in terms of room mapping awareness its quite good already! You can already walk around in passthrough in the AVP and its really good. I think early integrations will surely be done with a kind of ghosting effect that allows you to see the IRL object/seat/cockpit you are sitting in for safety reasons and to minimize loss of immersion but transitioning between seated positions to standing and walking on a omni treadmill type surface like the Holotiles (how the FUCK do those things work!? lmao :) ) will pose challenges that are think are pretty solvable.

lol I'm sure most folks will prefer to be seated along w/ya. My Vive has been boxed up forever, my Quest 2 didn't see a lot of use, but the Quest 3's passthrough changes the game since you don't have to take it on & off to see around you.

for sure comfort is an issue, but I suspect once they get the tech just a bit lighter than the Quest 3 and with a good headstrap, MOST actual gamers would be ok with the weight when properly distributed. As far as running in VR, no doubt a combo of stick / seated FPS locomotion would be used to traverse longer walks, but you would def be wanting to go old school laser tag style of game play that MOST of us have tried in real life. just think of it that way. A LOT of gameplay is flying and chilling on longer QT jumps so there will be down time. Im used to playing literally sweaty VR games like POP1 and before Meta nuked it, Echo Arena! Those games get you sweating and you love it! You might think people will all be lazy asses, but you just cant beat the thrill of a good old fashioned paintball / laser tag fight.

​@@WigganNuGI worked at a VR arcade for a few years and watched people from all walks of life use VR. End of the day people take the path of least resistance when it comes to daily driving a game, and VR with treadmills/walking tiles etc is not low resistance (even from a cost/space in your house kinda perspective). Especially a game like SC that a lot of us fire up after a long workday, that involves stupid amounts of running over long distances, even just getting from habs to hangar. You can enjoy your physical action and VR locomotion, but the reality is you're going to get beat by someone with a keyboard and mouse pretty handily. In a VR game where everyone has the same interface that does not really matter. When you play those games, are you using a treadmill or standing in place and using a stick or other method to move? Playing an average Vr game for 30 minutes with only tracking head and hands is enough to get most people sweating. I don't imagine it would be too fun having to physically run away from a hostile situation planetside in SC only to get winded and killed because of it. If that's what you enjoy, you do you, but I think folks that like to get physically exercising during a Star Citizen sessions are probably few and far between (insert joke about sweaty PvP players lol). I think SC will be great in VR, but I doubt locomotion via actually taking steps with your legs will be something most players will use. Time will tell though, the tech has a long way to go.

@@bearcommando all good points. But I think people are who they are which is to say; folks who are not into physical activity IRL will probably not be into VR "sports"/"fps". This was true for most Echo player; they were often young guys who play basketball in football in school. And if you think about it, there is MUCH more friction in getting yourself over to the local courts to meet your buds for a pickup game. In VR, its literally right there in your house and the friction is potentially a LOT lower. Also, there will no doubt be running/jumping multipliers in VR locomotion where a light jog will result in sprinting of your avatar in VR. As far as who beats who from a PVP perspective, you're right that traditional pancake M&Keyboard players would beat VR players. But VR play will tend to be for pilots, exploration and the many different non-PVP FPS professions and gameplay loops with light ground based PvE.

@@WigganNuGLess friction than actual exercise? Not with a cost of min 1-2k. Yeah if you have money it may be less friction than going outside, but it's still more than gaming normally or just getting a membership at the Y...and that's what really matters. I don't care who you are, humans take the path of least resistance. This stuff sounds great for like a week, then ends up in the corner/closet. Expensive VR stuff that takes up space in your house and needs a powerful PC, and that is too much hassle for the average Citizen. You didn't answer my question, do you play on a treadmill in VR or use analog joystick or something else for movement? I am genuinely curious if you use these systems currently.

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The tiles are discs that spin & shift to move you & objects around. Still in development, so it'll be awhile before we get to see how it all works. ..but yeah..very cool!

Pretty early prototype so hopefully it gets pretty manageable.

Yeah, I agree w/ya on the gold Paul

Really wanna check the Pimax out for the good-good clean big FOV for a change. BUT...the Quest 3 is thin & light & I imagine the Pimax feels like a brick.

@@DigThat32 the crystal weighs 960g, the quest 3 is 516g, although the Crystal is better balanced

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Vulkan is in ePTU but they haven't turned on multi-threading yet. You wouldn't wanna rock 3.23 in VR as it is right now.

@@DigThat32 oh dang no i dont even think doing that 😂 only "stable" live version for me. but by the fact vulcan is finally here, i hope they will start working on even the most shitty vr possible version, but official and not just full sickness vorpx mod

WOW! 😆 Yeah that'd DEFINITELY be cooler. Prolly need a swarm of nanobots or some holodeck-level tech but it'd be insane to have...til the robots revolt.

@@DigThat32 nah it wouldn’t need nano bots. The way each roller is designed it looks like a pillar could arise where the roller is. So each individual roller could rise up into a pillar to make the shape of any virtual surface you want it to simulate. No nanobots needed for this tech.

@@DigThat32 a good analogy I have is, you know that toy that has a bunch of plastic pegs and plexiglass to stop the pegs from sliding out. And you place your hand where the pegs are able to make contact with your hand. The pegs naturally conform to the shape of your hand on the plexiglass view of the toy. Same kind of idea but on a much larger scale. Like imagine an entire room with these omnidirectional pegs. And say you want to simulate a building. Well the pegs only have to simulate what you can reach out and touch anything away from reach doesn’t have to be simulate. You could walk around on the pegs and they keep you roughly in the same place. You walk up to a wall in game and the pegs rise up in front of you so that if you reach out your hand it will hit solid wall if you are close enough in the virtual space to touch it. If you want to get even fancier with it, for doors they could be up like walls, but when you open the door in the virtual space, the pegs drop at the same width as the door. Or it could rise up and form stairs. And now you have elevation changes (the omnidirectional parts would probably have to shut off if you have to walk up the stairs for safety reasons, but then when you reach the top of the stairs then the pegs all flatten out and now you are walking on a plane as opposed to steps.

U got extra passes to the champaign room?

Yeah those look like they'll get us by meanwhile.

I've seen folks run insane Unreal 5 environments, so I'm optomistic.

@@DigThat32 it would be an ultimate vr game for sure.

This is the sad truth I don't want to acknowledge. 😂

Red Dead?

NMS performed a lil rough for me in VR. I'd like to revisit it tho.

Thanks mayne. Excited about the way VR is just starting to shape up, so I'd like to explore it in more vids.

@@assasine08 maybe... maybe not

Eh?

In the other vid, there's a quote from Silvan who said he'll work on it, even if he has to do it in his spare time. So no impedance to progress here.

@@DigThat32 that man deserves all the damn cookies then! what a champ!

That's pretty reductive! 😂...but yes, you could say part of the rollers share some similarities w/a Mecanum wheel.

Right on, Rico! VR development is consistently working toward a more comfortable experience. In the meantime, eat some ginger!

@@DigThat32 Lol aight

Tried NMS 3 or 4 months ago & the performance was pretty rough til I found some fix involving changing some code. Still wasn't fantastic, but I might give it another shot. I agree about the virtual flight stick.

Ah, the olde Elite Dangerous approach

🤔 Never said one way or the other who will be able to afford it or not.

Hopefully they inspire somebody that creates a less expensive but dope solution...like the guy who made the Bifrost Pulse gloves

It's still in development and Lanny is almost 70 years old, so I wouldn't expect to see him sprinting anywhere.

Appreciate it!