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The 5100s are probably a bit more comfortable on the road or for more moderate trail driving, but they have nowhere near as much support when you want to boogie. You can take a look at our review on those parts here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rdOkebJ0lcXTZZc.html

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Stock springs on an 02 anything will be quite worn and probably sagged out. If you went to a new spring like the OME, it would likely be immediately firmer and better handling in the front, some people may call it too firm though. Running a lift spring on the Bilstein at stock setting would allow the max amount of travel in the suspension, since you're not running on top of a pre-loaded factory coil spring.

OME en mi experiencia funcionaron muchísimo mejor que los Bilstein, por la configuración progresiva que OME poser

It depends on what +5 means. It would be pretty much impossible for a shock to work at stock height and 5 inches of lift, especially on something that runs as short of a shock as a Jimny or Samurai, but if it is 5 cm, that sounds about right.

That's odd, haven't heard that before, are you double sure that the spring seat on the 5100 is not upside down? Happens often

Bilstein 4600 for OE replacements.

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I'm not an expert on Toyotas, but here's my opinion: Unless you want to do a diff drop (which is mostly aesthetic because it negates clearance), do not lift more than 2.5". And spacers are a waste of money. If you want an affordable upgrade, get the Bilstein 5100s or OMEs (you can reuse the factory springs) and a set of replacement UCAS. Your CV angles will be just fine, and you won't worry about doing any crazy damage to the rest of the vehicle that you can't fix later.

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OEM would be the softest. Depends on the vehicle as well and what you're trying to do.

@@ShockSurplusHi, my setup is 5100 with oem coils. I wonder why do they make sounds when it’s cold or making turns , any idea ?

They do, there are specific parts for your FJ Cruiser based on your year but they do offer parts.

You are fine with the stock UCA.

@@ShockSurplus Thank you! That has helped me make my decision.

No problem at all

These OME Nitrochargers do not even begin to compete with the Bilstein 6112s and 5160s so if they are recommending those as an alternative over the Bilsteins, they are definitely reaching a bit to say the least, however they did just release their MT64 line that is certainly a closer competitor to the Bilsteins. We have not had the pleasure of testing them yet, but from what we have seen they are definitely a great alternative for sure.

@@ShockSurplus I’m so fond of the Bilstein 5100s that I’ll likely go with my gut instinct and with the Bilstein upgrades. Thank you for responding!

some those suspension kit come with lift kit. some come with 1 to 2 inch.

It depends on the vehicle but Bilstein 5100 are designed to be used with the factory springs and top mounts and in some case factory spring seat is required.

@@ShockSurplus thanks! And it's for a lexus gx 470

We can only do that some some vehicles. Contact our sales team directly and we'll help you determine if we can and what set up you would need.

If you're keeping this truck stock height, Bilstein 4600. If you're looking for some lift or towing/hauling support, Bilstein 5100. If you want more jack of all trades, Bilstein 6100 and Eibach Pro Truck. If you want more off-roading focused, Fox 2.0 and all 2.5 series.

Yup, the struts are designed to be ride height adjustable up to 2.5" of lift with the stock springs and the rear shocks should be just fine with 1.5" of lift.

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​@@ShockSurpluscouldn't get a reply by Gmail bro, I would higlhy appreciate if you would give me a tip between ome (2884 and 2895E) or dobinsons (C59-300 and C59-505) where both would give me the 2" front and 1,5", for a daily dive in city 4runner 2007, thanks a lot

Usually we find the Bilsteins to be a little softer. The OMEs are generally optimized for at least some constant load and tend to run pretty firm because of it. If you want something a little softer at this price point I would recommend taking a look to see if Eibach has anything for your application.

OME does have front shocks for the HJ60, but they're straight shocks and dont have any relation to the leaf springs. www.shocksurplus.com/products/old-man-emu-nitrocharger-sport-gas-shocks-set-for-1986-2069-toyota-land-cruiser-60?variant=32513795915825

So on the JK they don't use a strut or coilover. Well there is ways to doing a coilover conversion but that'll require more work and fine tuning. Jeep wrangles have a shock and spring that are independent form each other. Bilstein does offer a shock that would fit your 2.5" lift.

This depends on your vehicle.

Those 4" drop bracket lift kits do make things a little difficult as you are either limited to retaining the spacer in the front and sticking with a 2" or smaller body strut like a Bilstein 5100 or going to a full length coilover which are few and far between. Sans trading it for a truck that has not had the crossmember cut for a lift already, the best solution for a matching set of shocks all around that rides better would be to run something like the Fox 2.0s. The front coilovers come preloaded for an additional inch of lift from the factory so if you want it to stay the same height when you slap the spacer on them you will want to throw them on a spring compressor to take out some preload, but after that, ride should be greatly improved. www.shocksurplus.com/products/fox-2-0-performance-series-coilovers-reservoir-shocks-set-for-2005-2019-toyota-tacoma-4wd-rwd-6-lug?variant=32323118301233

@@ShockSurplus thank you so much for your help.

Both are kind of close in terms of valving if you like the Nitro charger soft and Bilstein 5100. However, we find the Bilstein to ride better in our testing while using the springs

@@ShockSurplus bilstein shocks with ome coils and leafs?

doesn't look like either brand here specifies something for the lx470, but we believe its identical to the LC100, but not sure about any luxury suspension features. Ironman does have a kit that works - ironman4x4america.com/foam-cell-pro-2-suspension-lift-kit-suited-for-toyota-100-series-land-cruiser-lexus-lx470-stage-2/ There's also some Dobinsons options that we sell www.dobinsonsdirect.com/pages/product-result?rq=mk_lexus~md_lx470~yr_1998-2007-complete-suspension-lift-kit

That's a bummer, you could probably sell the setup and move into Fox 2.0? would definitely be softer

@@ShockSurplusthing is, what make my ride tough? the coils or the shocks?

@@JanChacn wondering this same thing.... got a full ome kit for my 3rd gen and tbf i planned on it being stiff for getting bumpers but its pretty rough...was wondering if i could just swap some coils in the rear to make it a little better

@@seanmoncayo8296 if you add weight to your car, it will definitely get soft. I already tested with 3 heavy passengers

we like the bp51 shock for rock crawling more than Bilstein, the adjustments make a bigger difference as you jiggle back and forth

@@ShockSurplus excelent Thanks my friend

Yup they are great!

The adjustable Bilsteins you see in this video are only for vehicles that already have coil over strut suspension from the factory like a Tacoma, Tundra, or '96+ 4Runner. They do not have any vehicle specific shocks that would likely work within the lift range you will likely end up at with the OME springs, but since it has solid axles with leaf springs we should be able to get a universal 5125 shock with their 255/70 valving to work. Give the team shout through the link below and we can get you set up www.shocksurplus.com/pages/contact-us

Yeah its a popular setup with a lot of good feedback www.shocksurplus.com/products/bilstein-5100-3-lift-system-2010-2014-toyota-4runner

Thank you your insight

I feel as though OME is always talked about and possibly overlooked. If you watch Australian 4x4 shows you can see what the products OME/ARB make can and will do and do reliably. I do agree that they are more for overlanding and ride quality than max lift/flex. I’m planning on doing the OME lift on my 21 TRD off-road

thats mostly true, but its because big brands rule the discourse here in the US, and ARB/OME isn't marketed well here. We've ran BP51 on our own vehicle and its been outstanding.

I want to lift my GX460 2 inches and I towba 3,000 lb camper. Would OME lift with their heavy duty springs be the best route?😊

Haha people don't realize how much shocks really improve stability in various scenarios.

Enter Shockman LOL

Can't forget about For Whom The Bell(stein) Tolls

lol @@ShockSurplus

Thank for for both the kind words and insight. We are doing our best with the given team. We are working on expanding the team soon as well.

To each of their own

This is the stupidest comment on the thread

Lol tightwad!

I used to like my factory shocks but then I got a job !!

It’s when your halving failure. My Xreas is broken so I’m upgrading

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@@ShockSurplus i tried speaking to someone all you get is a Machine so I returned the shocks Apologies I Was too harsh But the person I spoke to via email email his name was Austin didn't even try too help me out except SS we'll send you a return Slip and that turned me off