Where would you rank cursed energy? How does it compare to other power systems?

I believe power systems should be creative and simple. For instance, I love One Piece powers because it’s really easy to follow, even with its set of rules. Devil fruits gives the user said ability while spicing things up with learning the other potential power known as Haki.

HXH, Jojo, FMAB, and the Dark Trilogy has a the Greatest Power System in my Opinion.

While maybe not as important, Ido think how much a system works narratively and thematically is pretty important too. Probably kind of a no brainer, but still. In MHA, quirks aren't just there for the sake of cool fights. The entire world is built around the very idea of people being born with super powers. Every single character is shaped by their power of lack thereof and the overall society formed around these superpowers. Then you have FMA and Avatar TLA where basically every single facet of the story ties back to the power system. Also, if anyone wants to see what an absolutely abysmal power system looks like, just check out rwby.

I think it essentially comes down to how plausible a character's strength will be in a fight. When you get introduced to a concept you expect the same rules apply to everyone. You can either have a inherited power from your lineage but you can just become stronger out of your own strength you build up.

Some of my favorite powersystems are JJK, Bleach, Hakusho, HxH, and Naruto(before it got all whacky)

Great video but my only issue with it and other power/magic system videos like this is that the title, and the content in the video, seem to suggest that there's only one way a power system can be "perfect" when, just like magic system, power system's have two types: Soft and Hard. And depending on the type of shonen being written, either have their own version of "perfect" "Hard" meaning the system has a very strict set of rules and limitations all of which should generally be completely understood by the reader and can't really be broken as the series develops. Usually, more and more rules are introduced as the series goes so the grading in how good those systems are usually based on how constantly written they are. These have their strengths; Fights and Matchups will always be more interesting when the system is hard because every reader will know exaclty what every combatant has to offer with their skills making conflicts believable and filled with hype. The problem with this vid you've only really tackled Hard Power Systems in this video, which are all very great systems in thier own right, but to set these precedented standards as the criteria for a "perfect" power system, when on the other side of the spectrum lies "Soft" power systems, kinda disrespects the things other power system's achieves that these lack. Where Hard systems strengths lies in fights particuarly, it feels like that's all it really strengeths: The fights. "Soft" systems usually do better at showcasing the Characters, Story, Themes and Worldbuilding. "Soft" meaning the powers don't need to have lines of explanation, explicit rules and consistant writing. Generally some aspects of the power's are left open to many implications. However, because the system doesn't need to rely of overwhelming the info to be apprecaited. Time is spent more on how these powers effect characters emotionally, how they play into the themes of the overarching story, how they effect the general world they belonging on a day to day basis. Two great examples are My Hero Academia(Quirks) and Chainsaw Man(Devils). Both series' systems heavily infleunce society and how the world play's into the story. With Quirks, they aren just super powers people are born with, thier a phenomenon when, in its inception, caused civil unrest around the world, breeded new forms of segregation, caused specific people to be casted from society but also did things like inspire the innocent and literally play into indiviuals entire identities. Both the Worldbuilding and Story are directly impacted by the very nature of MHA's power system and has constently so from chapter 1 to this current finale. I'm not in anyway saying Quirks are better written than Curses, but i've found myself enjoying Quirks more recently becaise of its connection to the bigger picture of the story being Devils from Chainsaw Man is similar to Cursed energy, but alot more simpler in the fact that a Devil's strenght is accurtely compareable to how much humans fear its name. Unlike JJK however, everyone knows that devils exists, and they have been since their inception, Thus, they've relatively had an effect of how society is, in turn how characters act and come to conflict and in turn, the narrative and world building. Now that begs the question? Which is better? Hard or Soft? Which is more "perfect". Well that kinda thing is usually up to the reader's prefrences and what thier trying to get out the story their experiencing. One thing that's inarguable is that both have strenghts which the other lacks, I'm hoping you can talk about some of these topics in the next video Once again, great video, sorry for the essay

I like the way you ordered these rules. When you were going through the first few rules I was thinking to myself "this feels like the minimum for a decent power system" but the later ones as you said are what separate the good from the great. I know you have a part 2 in mind according to the video and whatever that might be I hope to also see you try applying this criteria to other series that weren't included in the video. Fire Force & World Trigger have some great ones that I'd like to see analyzed under this lens as they are among the best outside of the ones you mentioned in the video. There was another comment that mentioned they liked Demon Slayer & CSM and while those power systems are not as interesting to me, I guess they can be included too. Of course all these are well fleshed out series. If you wanted to toss in maybe some lesser known series I would suggest Skeleton Double or Gachiakuta which have promising but less developed at the time power systems. Maybe this could be the community question where you ask what series power systems people want to see evaluated.

The REAISTU and reishi system in bleach. Kubo took one power system and made 3 other Spiritual pressure

My favorite part of JJK's power system is that its actually built on *the illusion of rules* rather than actually having strict rules for everything Now what i mean about that is how in the Shibuya Arc Kenjaku and Mahito talking about how their techniques completely clash and contradict each other so Mahito puts out the idea they work on entirely different systems *then Kenjaku, the oldest and most experienced sorceror in JJK, agrees that cursed techniques are basically personal micro power systems under a general umbrella instead of being bound to one set of rules* We also have it literally said and or showcased multiple times that Jujutsu higherups keep a very strict handle on what is and isn't proper in their traditionalist mindset which is literally stated when it says the heigherups don't like Kugisaki because her technique is outside of what they consider proper of their system So its not a lack of creativity on the writing part its *a literal in universe stifling of creativity from the top down by a traditionalist government* And we see this even more because the top tiers are the ones that actually think enough to go outside those norms, hell that is *literally Sukuna's entire fucking thing and why he's the strongest* But we also see that with characters like Mei Mei, Kenjaku, all the special grades, and almost any other top tier sorceror or cursed spirits as well because with cursed spirits they were never beholden to societal restrictions or expectations in the first place 😂 Also my guy did you really say Todo and Jogo can't do much? Thats literally your lack of creativity my guy holy fuck 😅

That is the KI difference!

What I think makes a good power system is an explained set of rules (such as restrictions/requirements) to how things work in a way which there are little to no moments where you'd ask " how'd they do that?", and where the users can be creative with how they can use their powers (for example someones only power to shoot fire, and that's all the can do with no creativity twist to it). Some good examples of series that I think really show this off are Skeleton Double, World Trigger, and The Law of Ueki. If those series/HxH, JoJo, and UU are S-A tier, then I think I'd put JJK in B to B+ tier just cause I feel like tho they do have rules and structures to their abilities, I feel like alot of their abilities are either very restricted in what they can do (Todo, Nobara, nanami), they have moments of skyrocket in energy/strength that you wouldn't usually see in more structured power systems, and things happening that feel like they go against what was previously stated. It doesn't help that it feels like it tries to make things seem more complicated then it actually is with how they explain/word certain things.

I personally just don't like the dense paneling that is used to explain how everything works, taking out the pages where it's basically all text would really make the fights flow better

I wish this video wasn’t so JJK centric, makes the title super misleading. You’re really just talking about why JJK’s power system is worth looking at, which is part of watching it.

Heard Cavern of Rememberance theme instantly subscribed, you sir are a man with good taste

The best power systems have TWO components, the highly personal/specialized abilities that are based off of a common system, and the more generic applications. For One Piece it is Devil Fruits and Haki. For HxH it's Hatsu vs Ren/Ten/Zetsu etc. And with JJK it's Innate Techniques vs Barriers/RCT/Domains. I believe the perfect power system would have a well explained and balanced Personalized side like Nen's Hatsu, and a more flashy and versatile Generic side like JJK's . Nen's generic side is visually boring to see used and often just boils down to how much aura you move around your body and where. Meanwhile JJK's innate techniques are cool... but they are also really random and unbalanced with no real structure. No matter how hard you work, you probably can't contend with Gojo because his ability is super hax with absolutely no drawbacks. TL;DR: Personalized system should be balanced and structures, while generic counterpart should be tactical and flashy.

I think cursed energy ranks in my top 10 and works even better than how it's shown in YYH, also besides the 3 you show in the thumbnail. The magic systems in Fairy Tail, BC, Magi, and even Frieren work really great to me. How adaptable or how the characters' powers get an upgrade is cool.

I heard the kingdom hearts music in the background, and I instantly subscribed I didn’t even have to listen to the rest of the video but I’m about to!!!

Yeah JJK does have a good system. My favorite is trion from world trigger.

I disagree with the notion that the aplication of the powersystem isnt varied. Like with the hunter hubter example, CE on it's own can be used in varied ways as well. Using the same todo example, in just two fights he used CE reinforcement, simple domain, black flash, and utilized his CT in a very creative way, like imbuing objects with CE and clapping with his opponents hand. With jogo, he can create traps with mini volcanos, create bugs, create a meteor, use domain amplification, and use a domain (though admittedly we dont know what it does). I think gege does a great job at making each charcter have varied applications of the power system.

4:00 A key pun

The best power of all is having the art skills to convey action in a cool way in manga form

Its not the power system thats the issue. Its the fact that Gege bluballs us with exploring his system outside of a few characters. I would have liked to see CTR from a lot more of the cast. He basically kills off everyone he can show that with.

I would like a similar video on devil fruits and haki.

Power system should be an important part of overall worldbuilding. Creating a power system that follows the universe's rules from start to finish of a story without pulling a Deus Ex Machina card should be encouraged.

Imo i like Narutos Powersystem Its very simple and easy to understand Not only that, it does have its own categories like Gen-,Nin- and Taijutsu It can also create unique, diverse and strategic battles despite its simplicity It gets slept on imo

I think it os important to say - JJK's power systems do actually have a lot of potential due to: 1) Binding vows 2) One's own understanding of the world We can see how Gojo can use a binding vow to change the rules of his domain, how Nanami saves extra cursed energy for when it's needed, MeiMei sacrificing the crows and everything else - all of it is out there for each character to grasp and manipulate for their own gain. As long as there is a need, any ability can be changed/enhanced due to a binding vow. We also see how Sukuna can utilise Mahoraga's adaptation just because he has the skill to do so, as well as we see Yuji being able to damage souls just because he understands how to. Deeper understanding of the world allows characters in JJK to evolve their powers, and that is a great thing for any power system. (I personally assume that Jogo's maximum meteor would also come from just understanding more about his technique, considering meteors are not usually something one would associate with volcanoes, earth or fire, but is a very reasonable addition to his arsenal)

I fundamentally disagree that cursed techniques are limited on creativity. the examples you brought up, gojo vs todo/jogo, are a direct application of the power system doing as it was designed to do. Gojo's technique is limitless, which by default gives him Blue and Infinity, the reason he has Red and Purple are the application of him using the reverse of Blue for Red, and combining them for Purple. Todo and Jogo could very well learn a reversal of their cursed technique, allowing for a Red/Purple of their own. The reason they dont have these are they simply arent skilled enough, and following the same train of thought thats why Jogo, a skilled disaster curse, has a domain expansion while Todo doesnt. It isnt limiting creativity, in fact its bolstering reader input by allowing them to think of what a characters reversal/domain expansion would be. What did Hanami's domain look like? What would Yuta's reversal technique be? its not as cut and dry as 'gojo do more than these guys', its the fact that hes blessed and skilled enough to be able to do more than those guys, who have the capacity to learn similar things to him if given enough room. anyway good video 👍

I prefer more technical powersystem in general like JJK, but i love abstract abilites and crazy sceneios like Jojos.

Triton in world trigger is a s-tier power system

Can you talk about soft power systems

Bleach has a interresting Power System, because how the Species/Races and their diff Powers work, is left hidden for the reader to pick up, instead of just explained - bcuz all the other extra details and mechanics don't actually matter for the plot. Everything we know abt the Power System in Bleach, is limited by what the character themselves have knowledge on.

10:36 hxh nen abilities are made, not decided from birth

Ima be real the best limit is kinda realistic: actual training, and a capacity to output; this way you get tons of variety but not anyone can do anything, this and a few other smaller or larger rules can be a good basis.

We've ascended beyond ranking power users next to each other; now we rank the quality of their power systems next to each other

You got me when you say LOTR type of nonsense. You got a new subscriber sir. Why everyone else on the world cannot see that.

my one *MAJOR* gripe with not just the power system but worldbuilding of JJK in general, is the ubiquitous use of the term "curse" to such a degree that it becomes confusing, even when you *do* attempt to consider the word in the context it was used at the time. so frustrating, cos its so unnecessary

11:32 oi josuke what are u doing here

Imagine if combine between power systems from another it would make more destructive power

I really like the power system in a manhwa called unordinary

My top 3 favorite shows in one thumbnail, perfection 🤌

Bro did not need to Diss LOTR like that

Jjk does have the best power system in my opinion, cause executed very greatly... unlike Hell's Paradise (in my opinion) is cool but they rushed the story too much that the system is getting more blurry for me to catch up on.

I think early on it’s kinda annoying because it lacks basic shared basic techniques we know and then can understand in every fight. Later on he does this and it’s great. Once rct and other techniques start to be used by the cast it’s great.

0:00 Like 9 apples out of 12 bananas

Great video .i think you coult talk about narutos power sydtem and compare it to jojo or hxh or jjk.

That dig at lotr seemed personal, which is weird because you seemed to have not even read lotr if that’s your take on how it’s magic works.

I wanna start my own manga but im really bad at drawing😔

I think one key part of a power system is how it reflects the theme of the story and how the story uses it

the perfect power system in all of anime/manga: Claymore (though, got to read the manga of course, to really get into all of its power system fully) nothing comes close to it at all, absolute perfection

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Did you actually read lord of the rings? It's magic is very nuanced and grounded

Watch World Trigger and check the power system

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Jjk has a surprisingly good power system for a creator who was kinda of making it up along the way

Nen cursed energy and stands on top

Avatar the last airbender has a perfect power system

Fairy Tail power system bugs me. Example. Would Zeref be able to beat those random dragons that came out of the portal? I mean, you would think so because Dragneel thought that Acnologia was afraid of him and Zeref's magic is affective against Erza's mother. But, he doesn't use Dragon Slaying magic... so does that mean normal magic can indeed affect dragons? And, if so, is it just because of a power difference? And what about Demons? Why did Alteer need to use Iced Shell on Deliora when normal magic is enough? I mean, we see it with Erza literally beating the fuck out of Kyoka. And why is Demon Slaying magic affective against dragons?

Toaru Majutsu no Index >

00:59 kakashi

i think jjk is at the same level like those two cuz one domain expansions and simple domain to survive in those domains can make up the type categorie thing and the technique to personality interlinking Ness make the characters shine more ,one power has layers like cutting tech. has cleave, dismantle and fuga or blue, red and purple.The power system also introduces additional mechanism of getting power like heavenly pact, binding pact , so in general S+ for me that also why it gotta the best fight i hv seen or read in any fiction

This was all just about jjk

You did not just call LOTR's power system 'Nonsense'. In writing, there are 'Hard' and 'soft' magic systems, both systems come with their own pros and cons and each has its strengths and reasons for use over one or the other. Any writer worth their salt understands this fundamental and can explain it more eloquently than your flippant comment. You are not qualified to be making videos like this. Instead, educate yourself further. Watch this series, hopefully, you can learn something. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n7N6hMVmx63Zj5s.html "On Writing: hard magic systems in fantasy [ Avatar l Fullmetal Alchemist l Mistborn ]" kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kLyiocmfzrfNg2w.html "On Writing: soft magic systems in fantasy [ Tolkien l Game of Thrones l Harry Potter ]"

I have a love - hate relationship with MHA’s Power System. On one hand, it has very clear defined limitations. On the other hand it feels very restrictive since most characters can do one thing. At the same time training a characters power is an important part of anime power systems, and MHA includes this very well. But on a 4th hand the downsides really don’t really every happen, yet they somehow restrict people from other things. There is very high accessibility and understandability. MHA’s whole power system is just a double edge sword. Every amazing part of it has a horrid part of it. I think that is more good than bad, but what does it mean to you?

You forgot about cursed energy traits and physical traits 😅

Jujutsu Kaisen isn't about the Perfect Power system- It's about crashing the walls of 'the power system.' The society of jjk has grown to not care about any kind of power system, ever since the birth of Gojo Satoru. It created a system of fout special grade sorcerers that ran fully unchecked, and a white noise level of rank and file 'rank 1 sorcerers ' that have proved time and time again they are much much more than that. Then enter Yuji Itadori, enter Sukuna to CRASH that power system in its entirety, and now the whole system is flipped around and whosawhatsit lol. One could even say Takaba has been controlling the entire story and power system since the final panel of chapter 239

I love seven deadly sins and black clover power systems. Something about them I just love

Jojo had something special in part 1 and 2. 3 and beyonds "stand" powersystem is terrible. Just dumb luck to hopefully get star platinum instead of superfly

when you talked about dragon ball, you had the opportunity for an ultimate dad joke. "that, is the *ki* difference" just saying. or saianing 😂

Gotta disagree with the take that jjk doesn't have any kind of roshambo aspect to its power system. It's not explicitly stated that there are different categories of CT but there are some CT that are clearly incompatible with others. I think it adds to the strength of the power system when it doesn't have to make those distinctions and the roshambo aspect comes through naturally in the fight. I do think a major weakness of JJK is that CT are determined from birth and for the most part there is nothing that can be done to change that.

Cursed energy as a system itself is probably second only to Nen in how expansive and nuanced it is There are so many theories and possible scenarios that can be made using these systems but JJK just doesn't explore these nuances enough that makes it lag behind a lot of other systems like Spiritual Pressure, Chakra, etc...

what infuriates me about japanese power system is the "bullshit mechanic". In hunter x hunter for example, there's 6 logical and precise power "schools", let's say. They are specific, clear and have hard limitations, but then you have specialization that is just "eh you do whatever the hell you want since it doesn't fit anywhere else". That's really goddamn stupid. Why you make a power system with so much flashed out rules just to throw a monkey wrench on it all and break everything you've built?

Nen is easily the best, and Cursed Energy is watered down Nen.

The amount of asspulling jjk has been doing lately puts it under dbzs ki system tbh

JJK is not a good power stem. I don't know where eople are getting this from. From day one the grading system was worthless this dude could fight against grade ones and special grade with no problem

Fromm 10:30 forward, you stopped speaking logically and started to disguise your opinion as fact. I agree that Todo's clapping ability is overhyped both inside and outside the show, but that is more on its execution and less on the ability itself.

Holy yap 😂

like 15 ngl

JJK has the most convoluted garbage powersystem I have ever seen

tokyo ghoul has a bad power system

explained the power system without mentioning domain expansion… fail

I really like the overall power system in JJK, but (manga spoilers ahead) … Restless Gambler ruins it for me. It has too many individual rules and relies on too much contingency for it to feel anything other than contrived. It seemed like Gege was writing the rules to justify whatever the desired outcome was. It doesn’t seem clear enough that you can imagine a match up and envision how it goes. It’s not clear.

"There's Jogo, he can make fire, and that's about it" *Sad Ember Insect noises* The main thing I like about JJK is that its restricted in such a way that you need to get creative with what you have. Yeah, sure, Nen has way more variety and that's amazing and I love Nen but Cursed Energy just feels more interesting because it's based on what you THINK your ability can do Edit: Ok yeah the type matchup thing is a very valid point, JJK does fall short in that. I do feel like that isn't as neccesary as creativity but it is a good addition. I agree with the Low S-Tier placement

ngl jojo is the best. the "strongest" stand with an ability to stop time can be beaten by a rat and can also beat another guy who can turn anything he touches into bombs. jojo is hella versatile. no stand is weak, no stand is insanely strong. every stand is equal. jojo is the best. SPOILER: for example, I love how za warudo which was introduced in part 3 can beat tusk act 4. despite tusk act 4 beating the hell out of d4c love train. im not sure if za warudo could beat d4c love train but he can beat tusk. thats why you cant call anything conventially weak. i just love jojo

Manga/Anime with the best power systems in my opinion: 1. BLEACH 2. HXH 3. JOJO 4. FMAB 5. JJK

cursed energy is the objective best power system in all of animanga.

Jjk fights are amazing some of the best in currently ongoing manga. Jjk power system is amazing but not even close to the goat status.

I actually think Quirks are underrated as a power system

Idgaf what any of you say, Jojo’s power system is ASS

Nen IS overrated

Jojos power system is alot of contrivance if i had to be REAL honest

Bro really titled his video "perfect power system" showing two of the worst power systems known to anime. I power system not only needs to have rules and applications of the rules, the process from how the innate building block of the system (i.e. cursed energy) transforms into abilities needs to be very clear. Why certain characters have certain powers also needs to be clear. IMO, Late Jojo is the worst by far. it's literally just that the characters have abilities, and then the abilities activate. I don't care that these abilities manifest, or that people can't see them. Jojo also is very inconsistent, often breaking its own rules. this problem gets worse as more seasons get written. Two instances is that stands were originally "Spirit Hamon", a changed version of the old system but still technically hamon that takes shape into something else. Hamon required 2 things, A- the user being alive (was broken in part 5) and the user breathing (was broken in part 3 since they used stands under water.) JJK is a bit better in the sense that it tries to explain that everything is "cursed energy from negative emotions" and it has a few rules, but these rules are often illogical and make no sense to each other. The abilities also don't make sense as to how they can form from cursed energy, and why certain abilities are only available to certain people. There are also additional rules that don't make sense or go unexplained like cursed tools, cursed objects, reincarnation, origins of sorcerers, shikigamis, etc. still very bad power system Early HxH was very good. The abilities were basic enough to understand and also make sense how auras worked. I'd say it was really good up to the chimera ant arc, where we started seeing a lot more Illogical BS, and it only got worse from there. I will provide some more examples of good power systems. Chainsaw man, as much as I hate the anime for subjective reasons, has a perfect power system. It's the better version of JJK's power system. Fear -> devil. The more something is feared, the more powerful the devil is. You can't really kill a devil unless you end people's fears in that devil, and killing a devil just reincarnates that devil. devils aren't human, nor are they horrible monsters. They are their own beings capable of thought and emotion just differently from humans. People acquire their powers by making contracts with these devils, and the devils can occupy people or corpses. I haven't really watched much one piece, but I know it's very consistent in it's devil fruits are weak to water rule. Devil fruits also have types, and despite the fact that their abilities are just abilities without real reason, the abilities themselves are very accessible and easy to understand The perfect power system is Naruto. I don't really need to explain why. No one breaks the rules, techniques are all based on chakra natures and their combinations. Another perfect power system is demon slayer. there are no crazy abilities that break physics unless for demons, it's all just breathing.

I feel like your final point is incorrect i would say jujutsu kaisen does it better than Jojos and hunter x hunter putting the abilities into confines makes them less good it confines them to a pattern that would get boring after the same combination comes up thats why jojos doesent even obey there own system later on in the series going for something more mysterious adding better elements just as jujstu kaisen does like when sukuna uses flames or gojo being used as an anomaly character so i believe that jujstu kaisen is top tier powered system

Bro you just contradict what you say 5 minutes ago.a good power system has its rules. So that writer can't do whatever they want. Now you're saying Nan is a better power system because they can do whatever they want.