Shoot WIDER and FASTER (Starizona APEX ED Reducer)

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AstroBackyard

AstroBackyard

4 жыл бұрын

In this video, I talk about the power of a telescope focal reducer for astrophotography
The Starizona APEX ED 0.65x Reducer turns my 550mm, F/5.5 Refractor telescope into an incredible 357mm, F/3.5 Astrograph!
Focal reducers are a pivotal astrophotography accessory to consider for your rig if you want to shoot wider, and faster.
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As always, thank you very much for watching, and clear skies!
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@AstroBackyard
@AstroBackyard 4 жыл бұрын
I wanted to return to my roots with a BANGER backyard video for you guys... but the weather got to me. I'll be bringing the fire in the next one guys. Clear skies.
@guattodaddo
@guattodaddo 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Trevor how things are going with the super telescope F11 for distant galaxies? The big "tube" you made a video on some time ago? Clear skies!
@Astro-George
@Astro-George 4 жыл бұрын
Love how the clouds softened the image to give it a dreamy feel. I also am really impressed by the reducer flattener pushing the F-Stop so low.
@DylanODonnell
@DylanODonnell 4 жыл бұрын
Do you guys even need cooled cameras? Signed, Australia 🇦🇺
@mellowhippo
@mellowhippo 4 жыл бұрын
LOL. I'm at the relatively the same latitude as Trevor, just further west. I actually saw SGP try to warm the camera up last time I was out (it was a frosty -17).
@ebrahemmh
@ebrahemmh 4 жыл бұрын
Are you really a flat earther 😅😜 that's what chuck's say
@DylanODonnell
@DylanODonnell 4 жыл бұрын
Dr. Ebrahem Habibeh haha god damn chuckers!
@Max6785
@Max6785 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite part about shooting this time of year is when you go to pack the whole rig in without gloves on and your hands start to freeze to the tripod and mount head.
@olivierrethore9097
@olivierrethore9097 4 жыл бұрын
Yes Dylan, we have to cool but we don't have any bugs ... at least until last year. This year, we have had mosquitoes all winter in the south of France: times are changing.
@shantg4037
@shantg4037 4 жыл бұрын
You have the best outros in the field. Great work!
@Brendenowits
@Brendenowits 4 жыл бұрын
Stunning as usual!
@AndrewKingcampingfishingNC
@AndrewKingcampingfishingNC 4 жыл бұрын
As always Trevor a fantastic result in extreme conditions. Nice work
@theheavensdeclareastro
@theheavensdeclareastro 4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos Trevor! Always a highlight of my week.
@AstroBackyard
@AstroBackyard 4 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that Ben!
@trevort3205
@trevort3205 3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome !
@Thomas.Teichroeb
@Thomas.Teichroeb 4 жыл бұрын
I really like that you had the time of day and the temperature outside. Like most Canadians, we like talking/knowing about the weather. Great video!
@seanmolony-redstickastro238
@seanmolony-redstickastro238 4 жыл бұрын
Really cool. Great job Trevor
@Gabriel-hh1pw
@Gabriel-hh1pw 4 жыл бұрын
As always nice video. Thanks for explaining this! It's so useful :D
@frackcenturion
@frackcenturion 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic information Trevor, great work 👍
@alllogo
@alllogo 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Trevor! I wanted to let you know that your videos have inspired me to go to the Cherry springs star party this year! I have already made my reservations and I look forward to not only meeting you, but using my new 8 inch dobsonian!!!!!!
@AstroBackyard
@AstroBackyard 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool Jeff! I hope to see you there :)
@coriscotupi
@coriscotupi 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool (pun unintended) video. Here's a suggestion for a possible video theme: *"Everything you wanted to know about guide scopes/guide cameras for astro-photography",* the need for those (and how to actually do it) as opposed to using the mount's tracking alone, etc.
@christopherdeaver5372
@christopherdeaver5372 4 жыл бұрын
Very professional video. I like it when you are serious.
@AstroQuest1
@AstroQuest1 4 жыл бұрын
Well done as always and good information Trevor. I have been using a reducer or flattener/reducer for more than four years now and like you, love it! However, I just purchased a flattener alone so I can zero in on the smaller targets during galaxy season. It will be interesting to see the difference as I lose the f-ratio speed (F/5.6 to F/7) but gain on resolution.
@stormingbarney4498
@stormingbarney4498 4 жыл бұрын
Great video - can’t wait for my ASI 533 MC Pro to arrive.
@azcharlie2009
@azcharlie2009 4 жыл бұрын
Your image turned out pretty well! It's amazing what lowering the focal ratio can do. I use the hyperstar on my 1100HD. At F/2 it does wonders.
@marcosastrophotography100
@marcosastrophotography100 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Trevor, thanks for another great video. I have exactly the same setup (Esprit 100 on an EQ6 R Pro mount). I am really thinking about to buy the Apex reducer and your video is very helpfull for my decission. Thank you so much. Best wishes from Germany and clear sky 🙂🔭✨ Marco
@AmatureAstronomer
@AmatureAstronomer 2 ай бұрын
Mighty neat!
@RaysAstrophotography
@RaysAstrophotography 4 жыл бұрын
A good reducer on a refractor makes a world of difference. I love Starizona products, they are a bit on the expensive side including Hyperstar, but gives you the versatility!
@NautilusGuitars
@NautilusGuitars 4 жыл бұрын
Starizona APEX ED Reducer; The Viagra of backyard astrophotography! Truly a banger of an episode! :-)
@AstroLaVista
@AstroLaVista 4 жыл бұрын
Removing the reducer reminds me of how they defuse nuclear warheads in the movies! seriously though great video, you rescued the audio issue with editing nicely, the final image was great and I loved the sound track you used for it. Audio is important on so many levels :)
@derrickgeiser7534
@derrickgeiser7534 4 жыл бұрын
This is so cool. Your picture looks soo much better than the one I took last night of Orion. Although I was using a manual Dobsonian and a Samsung S8...so I get what I get.
@NG-VQ37VHR
@NG-VQ37VHR 4 жыл бұрын
Finally astromodified my t3i and got a .85x reducer in yesterday. Can’t wait for clear weather this Thursday night. Perfect video to get me excited about it. 👍🏻 I’m hoping to get a good shot of the Horsehead Nebula at 510mm or 600mm(haven’t decided yet)with the newly modded t3i.
@wesleydonnelly2141
@wesleydonnelly2141 4 жыл бұрын
From this day forward, i call this object "The Heart & Lung Nebulae". I like this name i've given it! What does everyone else think ? Great vid Trevor! I just noticed, your SUBS gone up by 12'000+ in a matter of weeks!?? Amazing my friend! Well Done! Wes, Liverpool, England. ( Bortle 8 )
@jeffreymore6799
@jeffreymore6799 4 жыл бұрын
Been working on just getting a telescope for starting out. Trying to save for one that’s at least has the eight inch aperture. Got a long way to go before I’ll get the quality in your work but I enjoy viewing for now.
@JosephOlar
@JosephOlar 4 жыл бұрын
I'm more impressed about the amount of time you deicate to setup the telescope. It must take a bit of time as making sure that it 100 % balanced. So that the tracker will follow the star that you had it set to track with no problem. The entire setup is really something else. Cheers
@iandobbin8068
@iandobbin8068 4 жыл бұрын
Great video 👍 Waiting on delivery of my 533, but could be a while due to the virus. Great effort in those conditions, or are you used to it. 😃
@tykexblankz1783
@tykexblankz1783 4 жыл бұрын
Big fan
@sisiamigomio
@sisiamigomio 4 жыл бұрын
Hey @astrobackyard the temporary satellite of Earth is calculated to pass by the Moon August this year. It's name is 2020 CD3 and it would be really cool if you could make a photoshoot of it's last journey around Earth. Please do this it would be so awesome. Also sorry for bad English.
@aemyttyastro
@aemyttyastro 4 жыл бұрын
Great picture Trevor! Have you heard of the 2020 Astronomy Photographer of the year? And if you have, did you enter it?(the competition closes March 6 12pm GMT)
@reddog1972x
@reddog1972x 4 жыл бұрын
Great video again bro - funny, I was just talking to Steve at Starizona yesterday about this FF/FR in the "S" version. I think i'm replacing my Stellarvue 0.8x FF/FRs on my double stack with two of these Apex 0.65x's to bring my SV70Ts down to F/3.9. I've heard good things from friends who are already using this nifty little product!
@jamesgoodall3818
@jamesgoodall3818 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Adam, that's the same Stellarvue scope I have (SV70T). I was wondering about trying the Apex .65 reducer/flattener... Have you got that setup and have a report about star shape, star size, vignetting etc? I'm not overly delighted with the dedicated Stellarvue 0.8x FF/FR...
@MichalJuul
@MichalJuul 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video with some really good information How could you not use ASIAIR?
@triangulumpubg6295
@triangulumpubg6295 4 жыл бұрын
Who imaged that object will know how hard it is. The dense star field makes it pretty hard to edit. Nice image Trevor
@AstroBackyard
@AstroBackyard 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@445Navigator
@445Navigator 4 жыл бұрын
I see... ...an observatory in your future :) Nice image btw.
@eagerzero9
@eagerzero9 4 жыл бұрын
Great content Trevor! Is the filter drawer you are using from a Hyperstar setup?
@robdille3130
@robdille3130 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool
@satyajitbhadraroy7723
@satyajitbhadraroy7723 2 жыл бұрын
Great video.. 👏👏 One stupid question.. do we need to use a field flattener and/or coma corrector to use focal reducers with f4 or faster newt telescopes ?
@CharlieBravo157
@CharlieBravo157 4 жыл бұрын
You should do a video on Dragonfly Arrays, this is something I can't find much material on. Is something like it possible for amateurs?
@sneakerset
@sneakerset 4 жыл бұрын
The Dragonfly is cutting edge science on the cheap. Last time I looked, the array team was imaging at 31 mag. Their sponsorship(s) enabled a price break (around $12K) for the 400mm f/2.8 L IS / STF-8300 M combination. Allison Merritt (yale/edu.) has an interesting abstract on this topic. The early versions of Dragonfly bear a resemblance to the mount design of a Calif.-based narrow band imager/researcher.
@ColinDane
@ColinDane 4 жыл бұрын
Focal reducers are sweet. I still need to get me a better one, but even my 0.85x focal reduction is already very useful. Still have a few other items on my wishlist before I get to that one though...
@sathyanarayanansridhar3144
@sathyanarayanansridhar3144 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Trevor. How about a video on Mirrorless camera astrophotography? Is it good? Are there enough support gears, adaptars and accessories out there to make this possible?
@taavilez
@taavilez 4 жыл бұрын
First off great video! Love the Starizona crew. But technically, a reducer doesn’t increase the number of photons collected. Radiometrically speaking the number of photons collected is proportional to the area of the entrance pupil. Changing the focal length with a fixed aperture increases the energy density of the focused spot. But don’t take my comment wrong, I am a noob in this hobby still, and have learned a ton from watching your content! I just happen to be a nit picky optical engineer.
@johnadastra1754
@johnadastra1754 4 жыл бұрын
Smaller f ratios = faster optics = less time collecting good data
@michapacholak9559
@michapacholak9559 4 жыл бұрын
You are absolutelly right. Any reducer can't "speed up" your optics when the aperture is fixed. The only way to decrese exp time having same result is to enlarge aperture. Using such reducer you can only expand FOV.
@johnadastra1754
@johnadastra1754 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure what you're talking about Michal. This is exactly why focal reducers are made and why people buy them. People with ultra big scopes aren't shooting super fast frames.
@michapacholak9559
@michapacholak9559 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnadastra1754 Then these people are wrong and throw away their money. It is true that the Focus ratio decreases, but with the same aperture it does not affect the exposure time. It is true that the number of received photons increases, but from a larger area then the density of photons on the picture will be the same and the signal-to-noise ratio will not increase and details will leave on the same level. Let's assume theoretically that you can buy any reducer, let's say x0.1. In that case, are you able to shorten the exposure time to a few seconds to get a satisfactory effect? You will cover a large part of the sky, but with the shortened exposure time the image will be worse.
@taavilez
@taavilez 4 жыл бұрын
A focal reducer decreases the amount of exposure time by increasing the irradiance at the detector, w/m^2, not by increasing the amount of collected photons (watts). Think of the aperture size as the size of bucket you are using to collect photons and the focal ratio of the scope (inversely proportional to the numerical aperture) is related to the spicket you are trying to force those photons through. The detector is another bucket which fills up at a rate proportional to the pressure. And I have officially carried this analogy too far. A reducer definitely reduces exposure time, just not because more photons were collected.
@danielrogers5641
@danielrogers5641 Жыл бұрын
I love the hint of Zelda music in some of the songs in these videos lol
@PlanetaryDefenseFoundation
@PlanetaryDefenseFoundation 3 жыл бұрын
i came for the music - Nice :)
@AndrewKingcampingfishingNC
@AndrewKingcampingfishingNC 4 жыл бұрын
Wondered why you don't use (or perhaps you do?) team viewer and Stellarium with the RS232 / USB cable set up to remotely control your scope once the focus and polar alignment are done, from the comfort of your garage?
@jeramiescott3364
@jeramiescott3364 4 жыл бұрын
Any experience with Apertura telescopes? I'm thinking of the 60mm Apo for my lightweight Star Adventurer setup.
@trainingwithlions
@trainingwithlions 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome setup. What kind of filter holder is that?
@mellowhippo
@mellowhippo 4 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed you got your hands on the APEX-L, they don't look to be available until 2nd quarter of this year. I am taking delivery of the APEX-S tomorrow and plan to use it on an Esprit 80ED for a ripping fast f/3.2! Also getting the ASI533MC-P, I really like the square format, low dark noise, and no amp glow.
@BSVGenius
@BSVGenius 4 жыл бұрын
mellowhippo check out CCD suitability calculator to see if a reducer will work.
@mellowhippo
@mellowhippo 4 жыл бұрын
@@BSVGenius Already did. Slight undersampling is acceptable, and I drizzle anyway.
@humbertolopez5631
@humbertolopez5631 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Celestron - NexStar 8SE. celestron f6.3 focal reducer and ZWO ASI183MC Pro 20.18 MP CMOS Color Astronomy Camera but i have problems with '' backfocus'' i can not get nothing i don't have a right pictures with my camara...i'll tried every thing ....but nothing i only have just a littler point on my tablet...could you help me about it? /////thanks
@robertfield4103
@robertfield4103 4 жыл бұрын
Great image. Curious to know the expanse of the nebula (light years). Anyone?
@GalaxyArtMedia
@GalaxyArtMedia 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Trevor. Great video. Do you know if this reducer is good for Skywatcher Ed80/600 telescope? I am using the Skywatcher reducer/corrector 0.85x, but i would like to have another one that could reduce the focal length even more. I would like to use Stellarium on my KZfaq videos also, do you know if it safe to use for youtube? Let's say if you want to monetize the video. I did some reading about the license, but i did not manage to find enough information.
@AstroFarsography
@AstroFarsography 4 жыл бұрын
Stellarium is fine to include in your videos, you won't get a strike or claim on it :) apparently the RF is good for the Evostar 80 also. Was looking at getting one for my Evostar also.
@AstroFarsography
@AstroFarsography 4 жыл бұрын
@@GalaxyArtMedia Trevor probably gets so many comments now that it would take up a substantial amount of time to reply to all of them really. I try my best to reply to all my comments also but sometimes it can take too much time! Clear skies to you also
@mertaydin820
@mertaydin820 4 жыл бұрын
I love your content brother x
@kyledenny4814
@kyledenny4814 4 жыл бұрын
Could this work on a Newt?
@mpk2707
@mpk2707 4 жыл бұрын
Trevor, I would be freaking out if I had those tall tree's in my backyard. Chain saw massacre is my first thought.
@andreavocino
@andreavocino 3 жыл бұрын
Would that reducer work on the Skywatcher Evostar Pro 80ED?
@GarnettLeary
@GarnettLeary 4 жыл бұрын
Do you notice any degradation in image quality as opposed to without the reducer? I would imagine a slight softening. That Canon 1.4 you held up is by far the best reducer I’ve used for any device. It’s big brother, the x2, is horrible.
@Kev376
@Kev376 3 жыл бұрын
Ever thought about using the c6 hyperstar v4? 300mm focal length, F 1.9! supports 28mm sensor. It's insane.
@chargersina
@chargersina 4 жыл бұрын
You need a small roll off roof Observatory big time. Best wishes for your automated observatory of the future.
@davejenkins8524
@davejenkins8524 4 жыл бұрын
Why is there before photo? Wider and Faster than what? I understand how they work. but without something to compare to. it is not much help
@michaelmurphy5029
@michaelmurphy5029 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, you are a trooper sacrificing your comfort zone for the love of astronomy in snow. Like your videos, and someday I hope you'll make a permanent observatory showing us how you would do it!
@AstroLaVista
@AstroLaVista 4 жыл бұрын
This is a good point, minus 14 is no joke! I'm surprised he hasn't built a RoR at least but I know he's only fairly recently moved. Maybe he will?
@saahilsinha5558
@saahilsinha5558 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Trevor! I have a question. At first I was looking at getting the Z61, but I stumbled upon the AT60ED from Astro-Tech. It seems like basically the same scope, but a whole lot cheaper. Any thoughts?
@humwhatever185
@humwhatever185 4 жыл бұрын
Idk anything but check the optics : the first one probably has better optics than the second one. Otherwise idk, good luck and clear skies
@saahilsinha5558
@saahilsinha5558 4 жыл бұрын
@@humwhatever185 nope, they are both FPL-53 doublets
@humwhatever185
@humwhatever185 4 жыл бұрын
@@saahilsinha5558 okay well idk then, im a beginner 😅. Fpl 53 is really good anyways. Im going to quickly check for you
@saahilsinha5558
@saahilsinha5558 4 жыл бұрын
Hum Whatever sure, thanks
@humwhatever185
@humwhatever185 4 жыл бұрын
@@saahilsinha5558 well i haven't found any difference, even on forums, so i guess its up to you. I think the FF on the WO is an other 192$, so maybe the 60ed is a better choice in that regards... hope this helps !
@euphonia001
@euphonia001 4 жыл бұрын
MC294 or 533? Which one do you prefer better?
@xmj6830
@xmj6830 4 жыл бұрын
I actually wonder the same because for 100 bucks more you get quite a significant bigger sensor, bigger pixel size and a bit more as well. Then you wouldn't need a reducer...
@joecooksey4331
@joecooksey4331 4 жыл бұрын
This stuff is like science porn.... I'm hooked!
@zveck06
@zveck06 4 жыл бұрын
Wow -15, won't have to cool the camera!
@joecooksey4331
@joecooksey4331 4 жыл бұрын
Damn good job.... F up or not.
@ozzielfc1568
@ozzielfc1568 4 жыл бұрын
think you need some coffee Trevor....Sirius in Orion??
@humwhatever185
@humwhatever185 4 жыл бұрын
I guess spending that much time without sleeping affects the brain... they re quite close though !
@AstroLaVista
@AstroLaVista 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I'd be able to string a sentence together at -14 lol
@humwhatever185
@humwhatever185 4 жыл бұрын
@@AstroLaVista i dont have a tracking mount for now (ill get a cgem saturday) so i decided to hand track during a clear night. It was quite warm at the beginning so it was nice. After i had polar aligned, it got to maybe -5 C, i still managed to get 9 mins of data though haha. But man do i love this pic now lmao
@alanc2972
@alanc2972 4 жыл бұрын
I just recently bought the CCDT67 telecompressor. I haven’t gotten to use it yet though because of all the friggen wind! I’ll take Canada’s temperature over Wyoming wind any day of the week and twice on Sundays
@xe1zlgg
@xe1zlgg 4 жыл бұрын
Good approach but not the best.. a F2.8 high quality 200mm lens on an aps-c sensor would take that hole nebula at only 30 sec exposures... of course do a lot of them and apply median on stacking.
4 жыл бұрын
Good video! Keep it up! Would you like to be KZfaq friends? :)
@netherworld4467
@netherworld4467 4 жыл бұрын
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@tykexblankz1783
@tykexblankz1783 4 жыл бұрын
First
@13squier
@13squier 4 жыл бұрын
No, reducers do not increase the speed of a telescope. Only increasing the aperture can increase the amount of light collected. An 8" scope collects the same amount of light whether at f/10 or f/1.9. The difference between a telescope and a camera lens is what confuses people- lenses have an iris that changes the aperture of the lens while the focal length remains constant. Telescopes have a constant aperture and reducers (or Barlows) change the focal length. (That's why lenses are given in focal length and telescopes are given in aperture: a 60mm lens at f/6 is a lot different from a 60mm f/6 refractor.) When you get into crop factor and speed boosters you're only talking concepts relative to daylight photography such as depth of field. (Speed boosters are popular with Four Thirds cameras because the 2x crop factor has twice the depth of field of full frame- but this is irrelevant to astrophotography.) The ONLY way a telescope can be "faster" is with a larger aperture and constant focal length- changing the focal length at the same aperture only changes the field of view.
@ebrahemmh
@ebrahemmh 4 жыл бұрын
Reducer change both focal length and f ratio
@joecooksey4331
@joecooksey4331 4 жыл бұрын
All this "F" talk makes me think Trevor needs to find Ashley. LOL Hell, it's Canada you have to keep her warm.
@AstroBackyard
@AstroBackyard 4 жыл бұрын
LOL
@TheExoplanetsChannel
@TheExoplanetsChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@joecooksey4331
@joecooksey4331 4 жыл бұрын
@@AstroBackyard I have a WARPED sense of humor.... I hope you passed this on to her. LOL
@alanconnors8881
@alanconnors8881 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe someday I'll stop being amazed. Probably not.
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