Short Rider, Tall Dual Sport Seat Height

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9 жыл бұрын

I am 5' 4" (163cm) with a 28" inseam. This motorcycle is a 1996 Suzuki DR350SE with a 36" seat height. Forks have been slid up the triple clamps by about .75", but on paper, I am still far too short for this machine.
I have been riding it for about 5 months now in this form, and over 3500 miles, and have never had a problem with the seat height on the road. I am an intermediate rider with 5 years experience, so this is not something a beginner should do.
I have decided not to lower the suspension, but instead will just shave the seat by 1". I hope this video helps someone else who is vertically challenged, and think they can't hop on a dual sport because of it.
Update: I have since upgraded the seat to a 1" lower Seat Concepts seat. That 1" made all the difference in allowing me to at least tiptoe with both feet. I would consider this an essential mod for short riders, and highly recommend it for all DR350s. I can now ride for 3 hours straight in relative comfort.

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@mayk7124 4 жыл бұрын

I'm between 5'4" and 5'5", and it's nice to know that riding tall bikes can be done. Thanks for giving us vertically challenged folk hope!

@shreyassureshkumar9464 3 жыл бұрын

I'm 5'5" as well and I'm thinking if I could ride a Suzuki DR650 or a DRZ400 with a passenger and some luggage.

@freddyg6940 3 жыл бұрын

5’6” dream Bike is the Africa Twin now I have hope lol

@freedomisntfree131 2 жыл бұрын

"Vertically challenged?" We're short. Be proud of it and stop hiding behind your feelings.

@bensimpson9175 8 жыл бұрын

Your video will help people. I'm 5'2", with a 27" inseam. I ride a Kawasaki Versys with a Speedy Gonzales link, a DR650 in the factory low setting, and a BMW R1100R with the seat on the middle setting. I have been riding for almost ten years. It takes some determination, resourcefulness, and time, but now it's no big deal to ride most bikes. Guys much taller than me will watch me get on bikes at bike shows and dealerships; some of them are sizing me up, to see if they could deal with the bike. Doesn't bother me.

@captplatonic 3 жыл бұрын

I'm also 5'2" one pothole or unlucky stone in the road and I've been down on the ground at the lights! Would take a supreme skill level to go off road, no room for mistakes right?

@DavidRamirez-fe5dd 3 жыл бұрын

@@captplatonic Im 5'3" 120 lbs. I can ride most bikes on my tippy toes and not so fun. But with lowering kits and good practice skills .....you can be feel comfy and ballsy off road. ..the key is lots of speed and choose your lines wisely.

@patw9175 6 жыл бұрын

I'm going to look at a DR and now I'm feeling much more confident about the seat height. Thanks a ton!

@kayman2690 6 жыл бұрын

I have short legs. stopping on a flat road not an issue, however steep gradients or uneven roads is where i really struggle!

@natesv04 Жыл бұрын

Lean towards the good side of the hill and you're good to go

@byronjosephhallar8476 5 жыл бұрын

This video helped me make up my mind about buying a dual sport bike. He's shorter than me, yet he manages like a boss.

@smallepu92 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot for posting man, I’m 5’8”, I think im a 30 inch unseen. Was considering the xr650l for my next bike. This motivates me into considering that bike.

@deltoid77-nick 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I have similar numbers on me, I have a 32in inseam and I am considering the same bike because it's just so practical.

@themotofixery 6 жыл бұрын

Like a pro! Great job, thanks for the video!

@Bishops1414 8 жыл бұрын

This gave me so much hope. And Im complaining about a 32.5 seat height and I'm the same height as this gentleman. Bravo!!!

@milenabarros9791 4 жыл бұрын

Vhg

@davidmesgna7704 7 жыл бұрын

Really well shown and done.

@TheStracky 2 жыл бұрын

That was inspiring.. I can kinda tiptoe with both feet on my bike and it can be challenging at times, more so in slow speed maneuvers cause i cant use my feet for stability if something goes wrong.. Im glad to see others trying to overcome similar issues. My bike's clutch lever broke yesterday thanks to a slow speed fall while i was trying to learn how to do tight U-turns and i felt really discouraged.. I have a lot to learn to improve my riding and It my height is something extra i need to overcome as well.. I was feeling really down today but this video and the comments below made my day. Thanks!

@SamChou 2 жыл бұрын

You will drop your bike time and time again. I still do it all the time. You just have to pick it right back up and keep riding. I used to get discouraged, but I don't even bat an eye anymore. Best thing you can do is get real handguards with a metal backbone if it's a dual sport, so you never have to break a lever again. Also, when in doubt, throttle out! The bike naturally wants to fall over when you are leaned over doing slow speed maneuvers. More throttle is the only way to stand it back up.

@vironpayne3405 Жыл бұрын

At 5'8" with a 29" inseam I was almost that bad on my first 08 KLR 650. I was on tippy toes and I dropped the bike 3X the first two weeks on it. I told myself, "Never again." It was stolen a few years later and moved to a vStrom DL650. I sold it after a few years and went to buy a 2022 RE Himilayan, but I walked out with an incredible 2018 Camo KLR 650 w/ 3402mi, over $3K of parts upgrades, extended warranty, maitenance journal, original parts, and extra parts. It has been a true blessing. Thank you, JESUS! Its about an inch shorter and I've only dropped it once during the first six months of ownership. The first KLR made me learn ninja slow speed balancing skills.

@jeffdeezy 4 жыл бұрын

This dude is a fucking BOSS. I'm short at 5'8" and modern 250's are just too damn tall. started on a super sherpa 250 kawi and it was just right. klr 650's and dr 650's are just too damn tall to feel comfy on. dropping them turns them into cruisers. then here I am riding a ninja 250 after years on liter bikes and wish they made links to make it taller lol. Really, mfgr's should make a bike platform that takes different engines, then make it accept different engines. like a 125-400 cc beginner sportbike platform, a 600-1000 cc superbike platform. same for dual sports. make that thing modular!

@francisanchez59 8 жыл бұрын

you just gave me hope.I'm 5'5 and planning to buy crf 250l.I have 18.5 km on my naked bike but too nervous for crf because of the height.

@gcprost 5 жыл бұрын

Well done!

@hunterharris637 4 жыл бұрын

I'm a girl who is 5'3'' with a 28'' inseam and I was able to get off/on a klr 650 with a 35'' seat height. Because I'm a girl I don't have the strength that a guy might have while maneuvering the bike around. As a background I grew up riding dirt bikes and I always had to ride tall bikes my entire life. I had to climb onto a tall dirt bike without a kickstand and uphill, imagine that. I had to push off from a tree lol. My first dirt bike was at 5 years old. I'm here to tell you guys that if I can do it you can. If you park on pavement you are fine. Just don't park it on top of gravel, mud, grass, or a steep incline. In either of these situations you won't be able to push off from the ground with one foot. As long as you see any of those things just keep the bike moving until you find even ground. If you do end up messing up and parking it in those things, be prepared to get off the bike and walk it; just be smart and careful. To get back on it with the kickstand down, just climb onto the bike and lean off one side with your hips to put the kickstand up. This part is kinda sketchy and takes practice. Putting your foot down and putting the kickstand up should be done in one motion. Push off from the ground again if you don't succeed and try again. It doesn't take special shoes to hook the kickstand with your left foot it just takes practice. I can do it in my huge stiff boots that you could walk on the moon with. Last, give it throttle and go.

@hunterharris637 4 жыл бұрын

@not tryna argue but If you need to take it on technical trails then you want something as lightweight as possible and if you can, something with a low seat height. This can happen by shaving the seat down (just make sure there are no pressure points afterwards). You don't want a KLR as a short person through technical trails unless its an occasional water crossing, light gravel and dirt. Simply because if you are on uneven terrain then you will probably fall. There are short women who do it, but they are experienced and know what they are doing.

@hunterharris637 4 жыл бұрын

@not tryna argue but i would look into the ktm 250 and 400, as well as the drz400. If you are taller than me they are both great lightweight options that will take you through the trails because they weight 100 lbs less than my cb500x but can go just as fast. I didn't get one because they were too tall for me, i used to be able to ride very tall bikes but now i have two post op hips and back.

@hunterharris637 4 жыл бұрын

@not tryna argue but i used to do a lot of trail riding, i actually got hurt from improper form at the gym, got two hip surgeries and then hurt my lower back from all the limping. Its been a tough year since, but i found ways to ride that doesn't bother me. Im still going to take the dirt bikes out occasionally but not as often. Im only 25 and trying to get to 70 without getting more surgery

@zr2trackerjoe 3 жыл бұрын

This gives me a ton of confidence

@boh348 5 жыл бұрын

If your a dirt road rider, street rider, and mild trail rider you can ride anything having to lean a bit when you stop. From 40 years of biking on cruisers, race bikes, and dual sports the seat height is very important if you off road more than just semi smooth dirt roads and fields. I have fallen many times over the years in creeks, side of hills, large ruts and climbing steep hills where i had to maneuver around trees, rocks etc where when I had to lean that direction at the time and I could not touch the ground. You either have to slide off the seat and hang on for life it seams to continue up the incline. If you think you can turn the opposite direction then you slid off the seat quickly to avoid hitting something you really do not have time to slide to the other side of the bike and place you other leg down. Slowing down to have time you lose momentum which is a real factor when off roading on steep trails. Now as a young man I had to have the biggest and the fastest dirt bike / dual sport. I have own all of them. 650 and down. My favorite take a road trip bike was the KLR650 with one tooth up front sprocket for freeway speeds. That made it suck off road having to clutch out on a hill or our of a bowl or creek bottom. I ended up carrying 2 front sprocket sizes. Worked great. 14k miles a year on that bike. I fell over allot in tight turns because I could not touch the ground. Lowered the bike 2 inches and fell half as much. Allot more confidence off road. Xrl650 Blew a new one up running 65 mph at the 500 mile mark on the trip, Used allot of oil also. Bike had 2500 miles on it when started the trip. Honda replaced the entire bike, They changed the sprockets before giving me the bike. Drove it 3000 miles on one trip after putting 1000 miles on it, Ran 70 / 75 MPH everywhere. Had to add a little oil every two gas tanks used. Much better bike then KLR off road in every condition yet sucked on highways and was wound tight even regeared. Was very tired all the time on the freeway. it was also lowered 2 inches, fell over allot until lowered then about half as much. Had a DR650 better than Honda on road. Not near a KLR on road, Better than KLR off road not near the Honda off road. At 2600 miles Suzuki had to repair the engine due to a cam bearing oiling issue. Told me I could not drive it 70 all day like that even with synthetic oil. They regeared it also killing to off roading on slow steep climbs helping on freeway. Was not lowered but lighter and a touch shorter then the other two stock bikes. fell yes but not as much. I now will go back to the KLR650 lowered and the seat cut 1 inch and carry two front sprockets it is an easy change if I get into harder off road enviroment. In out group we have never had the bigger dual sports get through the trails. To tall and to heavy to climb goat trails etc. I am 6ft tall with 32 in inseam and weigh 240. The best dual sport I have ever ridden was a xr400r with baja kit and the xr650 engine custom balanced for freeway riding. Was 3 inches lower then KLR or XRL. Never fell off road on the same trails yet had to carry two sprockets to be able to run 70 and 75 all day. Started running a touch of two cycle oil on long freeway trips and never scorched a Honda cylinder again. 100 miles at a time running 70 and 75 no issue and running a touch of quick silver in the gas stopped the honda from using oil. All bikes were jetted also for Honda's all come to lean to meet California crap. All bikes had better air filter and better exhaust which also help cool them a bit. So the moral of the story is it all depends on how you ride and what you expect the bike to do. We do not jump them just climb steep, ride hard on the roads and get stuck in the mud once in while. If they made a 600 engine on a 230 or 250 frame with 6 speeds I would buy it. Keep the wind in your face and close you mouth unless you like june bugs.

@ronin99999 6 жыл бұрын

Nicely done,I want a Drz 400

@freedomisntfree131 2 жыл бұрын

There's nothing wrong with being short. Be proud of it and never let it hold you back. I make a great deal of money doing something tall men have a problem with.

@JohnDoe-fv3vs 7 жыл бұрын

This gives me hope. Thinking bout getting this bike, but I am 5'9 barefoot.

@808Mark 5 жыл бұрын

Respect! I'm 5'8" im paranoid about dual sport seat heights but want to get one as my first bike

@TheMarky26 4 жыл бұрын

Im the same height and i own a klr..Its tall.. Offroad it doesn't bother me much but in traffic it sucks but its doable. I was thinking about a lowered seat but they cost a fortune..

@fingerhorn4 5 жыл бұрын

Kudos. Wordless elegance. Problem solved.

@8xiong 8 жыл бұрын

Nice. Who said short people can't ride taller bikes. I'm 5'5". Started on a 92 Ninja 250, moved up to a 06 ZX6R, and I just got my CRF250L with 34.7in seat height. Never had to lower the taller bikes. How you are able to swing that leg over though... it's a groin puller for me hahaha

@TRonlyOne 5 жыл бұрын

I just bought myself a used Crf250L without lowering too...I’m ab the same as your height 166cm. Well It’s a little bit hard at first but I think Im going to be fine with it.

@ubermick4208 7 жыл бұрын

Wow. I have a 28" inseam as well and just picked up a DR. Can't even get my leg over it like you, in order to just touch one side, the knee of my other leg is basically over the saddle. I'm gonna have to lower mine :(

@Merc399 Жыл бұрын

Dude is that a Honda magna or a v65 next to the dual sport? Dude would fit nice on that! Also those can do some light off roading. I'd love one to sit next to my DRZ fr

@arnoldgrabski6436 9 жыл бұрын

damn, didn't know if it could be done. I'm 5'4" and really want to get a dual sport. I have about 5-6k miles experience, but my gz250 seized on me coming off the highway :'(

@ellenj8896 Жыл бұрын

That rider is so cool!

@BikerJack12 3 жыл бұрын

It's 20% bike and 80% rider I'm also 5'4 and just bought a husaberg fe450 supermoto with a seat height of 35.2 and can ride it with no problem at all

@kousueki7024 3 жыл бұрын

its not about the height.. its about the ride

@smorlaughs7526 7 жыл бұрын

Shift hip a little. You solved my problem! I have been wanting to get one of these but was kind of bummed today when I tried to get on one. I couldn't reach the floor..

@SamChou 7 жыл бұрын

I know what you mean! I got on a KLX250S in the showroom when I was first getting into motorcycles, and it killed a lot of enthusiasm for me early on. I had to narrow my options pretty much just to the Yamaha XTs until I found the DR on craigslist for a great deal and figured I'd give it a shot. I learned quickly that riding a tall bike is magnitudes easier than trying to stand up stationary. Once you get moving, the machine takes over.

@benjaminhoff5004 3 жыл бұрын

DR650 is an inch shorter and can have the seat shaved by almost an inch by your dealer. At that point it sits at 34 inches which you either live with or lower the suspension. I get why people don't like the idea of lowering suspension but the bike's got over 10 inches of ground clearance and suspension travel, won't hurt to drop it a little bit and give you more confidence.

@ChrisRJ 6 ай бұрын

Riding around on pavement in a controlled environment is a lot different than going off road with obstacles, constantly stopping and maneuvering the bike.

@SamChou 6 ай бұрын

It sure is. Never said it wasn't in this video. Just wanted to show people that it's even possible to get on a tall bike as a short rider.

@craigcloud2556 7 жыл бұрын

0:35 - 0:36 if you're short, practice *that* kick

@TheStackingNerdH 6 жыл бұрын

I’m 5’4 and just bought a DRZ400SM and honestly it’s intimidating. Being short has kept me away from off road bikes. Looks like confidence is a short rider’s best skill. Thanks!

@plinkbottle 6 жыл бұрын

I am 5' 4", I ride a 100cc Sym Symba step thru and can almost flat foot sitting on the bike... It is the right height for me, stopping on a hill or stopping over a gutter waiting to join a line of traffic. I wouldn't want anything much higher. As I am 69 yo I probably wont buy anything much higher.

@Elsanta666 8 жыл бұрын

you a bad ass bro..am just learning how to ride, i will be getting a drz400. am 5'3, i will be getting a lower seat, lower the suspension and lowering links..hope that doesnt affect the ride too much

@thumpertorque_ 8 жыл бұрын

Did you get the bike yet? I thought supermoto wheels can lower the bike even more.

@Elsanta666 8 жыл бұрын

+Opposite Lock yes i did, and thats exactly wat i did, i got super moto wheels, super moto are 17s, got 2in lower links and shaved the seat as well now is perfect. and it ru s a lot smoother on the high way with super moto wheels

@thumpertorque_ 8 жыл бұрын

Cool! That gives me so much hope. Did you lower the suspension somehow or not?

@Elsanta666 8 жыл бұрын

+Opposite Lock actually kind of did, other then the 2in lower links for like $25 on amazon, ive also got tusk bar raisers 1 3/4in for like $30 that allows you to move the firks up about 2in loweri g the front.. thats all

@WhoIsEspo 8 жыл бұрын

Dont. Get a corbin seat. They take off at least 2 inch on the seat without losing the comfort. They look sexy too

@G-Hawks 4 ай бұрын

I'm the same height, maybe 5'5 in boots, thanks for sharing, helped me make the right decision.

@MofosRealReviews 5 жыл бұрын

Am I the only one that was waiting for something to happen in this video? Lol

@MrSquirrel 8 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Im jut 170 cm around 5.6 or 5.6 with inseam around 29-31 this give me hope

@jensenex9270 7 жыл бұрын

Mr Squirrel I'm 159cm..., 170cm is considered tall man

@jeffstone2601 7 жыл бұрын

**hey sachou saludos desde Colombia te recomiendo ** *cambiar: rin 21" a 14" delantero rin 18" a 17" trasera *cambiar la leva del amortiguador *quitarle una vuelta al amortiguador *bajar el asiento. *sacar más las barras hacia arriba (tren delantero)

@PapaMalps 4 жыл бұрын

Like a boss.

@mannyechaluce3814 8 жыл бұрын

must stretch everyday or else on can pull a groin just getting on the bike :D

@clintflippo917 3 жыл бұрын

Unironically im doing this now for this reason.

@hectorforero3359 6 жыл бұрын

I am 5'7'' with 32'' inseam. I be able to ride that comfortably?

@hunterharris637 4 жыл бұрын

you can ride anything you want as long as its not too heavy to push off the ground

@saravananr4416 7 жыл бұрын

Hey Bro, I'm just 5.6 with 30 inseam. I want a yamaha r6, I've heard that r6 isn't for short riders. would I be able to ride that comfortably?

@SamChou 7 жыл бұрын

I've never actually sat on an R6, but I'm sure it would be fine. Any street bike should be no problem for most people. They're low to the ground, so all have short seat heights when compared to any dirt bike. The only thing I'd worry about is the horizontal reach to the handlebars for short riders.

@saravananr4416 7 жыл бұрын

Sachou thanks Bro.

@mattingray5651 5 жыл бұрын

You made it look easy. But that is only in a controlled parking lot. On the street, too many unexpected things can go wrong. Make a video showing you do that in traffic. For me, I need have at least both the ball of my feet on the ground. I have a 29-ish inseam, btw.

@SamChou 5 жыл бұрын

That is somewhat true. But I cannot stress this enough: being short is only a problem from 0mph to 1mph. At all other speeds, your inseam is irrelevant, and a skilled short rider should be able to handle a motorcycle as well as a skilled tall rider. And at 0-1mph, in traffic, you are not likely to be in mortal danger. You are definitely more likely to drop your bike at a stop light though.

@fredtedstedman Жыл бұрын

try cruiser parked next door !

@Nihilist_Adventure 5 жыл бұрын

hell yeah

@37plague 3 жыл бұрын

That's how I must look on my klr lol 5'9 32 inseam

@antiteroristickejedinicepo4830 3 жыл бұрын

5ft 7 and Yamaha DT 125r is that possible?

@SamChou 3 жыл бұрын

Should be a lot easier than what I'm working with.

@antiteroristickejedinicepo4830 3 жыл бұрын

@@SamChou Is that your bike on this video? If that is your bike it's taller than mine so my bike is lower than your and I'm a bit taller so should it be a less difficult for me to drive my yamaha? I could make it lover maybe.

@billhand9330 5 жыл бұрын

I don’t get it? Was this video to show riders how to fuck up a parking space with your kickstand?

@4strokesRnoisy 7 жыл бұрын

Sidestand pivot wrecks asphalt...

@bikerbros2041 7 жыл бұрын

whats the best dual sport for a guy whos just barely 5 foot

@SamChou 7 жыл бұрын

Pretty much the only answer is the Yamaha XT225, XT250, or TW200. Those are pretty much the only street legal dual sports with very low seat heights. But don't sell yourself short. There's always lowering links for pretty much any bike. If there's a will, there's a way. Build confidence, and then make whatever bike you want fit you. BUT, if you're a beginner, stick with a lower bike and get your skills up before riding a tall bike.

@ronperl91 6 жыл бұрын

z125 kawasaki dual sports

@gdoldays9964 7 жыл бұрын

Dani Pedrosa is 5'2"....it's only how you ride, not about how tall you are. All in your head.

@alphacapo 3 жыл бұрын

Dani Pedrosa doesn't ride a dual sport with a 37 inch seat height in rush hour stop and go traffic. Lol

@flyaroundyourfire 6 жыл бұрын

What happens when you get a foot cramp

@SamChou 6 жыл бұрын

I don't. It's never happened to me, personally. You're not holding up any significant weight with your legs, just balancing the bike.

@flyaroundyourfire 6 жыл бұрын

Sachou I get foot cramps sometimes. Not related to riding. I do think that stretch to tip toe would give me a cramp!

@duaneyoutbe Жыл бұрын

How tall is this guy?

@SamChou Жыл бұрын

5'4", 28" inseam, 130lb.

@TheMarky26 4 жыл бұрын

Thats all fine and dandy but it does make driving in start and stop traffic pretty crappy..If i was only driving offroad or in the country seat height wouldn't matter..

@SamChou 4 жыл бұрын

It's not that bad, honestly. Yes, if you're doing a lot of riding in traffic, get a more city oriented motorcycle, 100%. But really, just embrace the butt shift, and always lean the bike to the side you are shifted over to, and it all works out.

@TheJokerscene 7 жыл бұрын

How do you reverse on that thing though? I have to tippie toe on my CBR500. Can't imagine reversing on a XRE

@SamChou 7 жыл бұрын

There's no way I can scoot it backwards with me sitting on it. I hop off and just walk it backwards when I need to back it up.

@paulmauer9405 6 жыл бұрын

Witzig...voll der Zwerg

@jyotiverma-ld2dr 4 жыл бұрын

God you so perfectly ride the bike

@HighOctaneExtreme 5 жыл бұрын

Im 165 cm i cant ride crf1000 fucking tall bike Start and stop is my problems

@bangerbanging7725 7 жыл бұрын

how you gonna do if you want to take your girlfriend for a ride?

@SamChou 7 жыл бұрын

Just fine, actually. She actually helps the cause, since the weight of a passenger sags the suspension even more, and allows me put one foot almost flat on the ground.

@Boss-sq6wz 4 жыл бұрын

you know the rules, NO GIRLS ON YOUR DUAL SPORT, just on your car....

@Doomsara 3 жыл бұрын

Just so you know, tall guys have issues as well.. Most motorcycles look like toys underneath us haha

@skye3141 5 жыл бұрын

cute

@Alexis32rus 4 жыл бұрын

Lol

@SticksAandstonesBozo 3 жыл бұрын

What in the actual fuck is the point of this lol.

@xiloluxen6421 8 жыл бұрын

I like to see you do that with a 500 pounds plus bike like a BMW dual sport with a 33" seat height. My 12 year old nephew can do wheelies on your toy bike.

@SamChou 8 жыл бұрын

+Lilox Luv I have never had the opportunity, but I'd like to try. Thanks for the tip.

@ricardojusino1 8 жыл бұрын

+Sachou nice response. Shows maturity and class.

@xiloluxen6421 8 жыл бұрын

Some people pass tic-tacs as energy pills and you would be one of those who would pay for them. The title says "Tall Dual Sport Seat Height" What he's riding isn't tall nor heavy. There is a video of a very short guy man handling a BMW F1200GS and that's impressive because that's a heavy and very tall seat height dual sport bike.

@GallopingWalrus 8 жыл бұрын

+Lilox Luv If the description is right, that DR350SE has a 36 inch seat height. Not exactly the shortest bike.

@SamChou 8 жыл бұрын

+Lilox Luv I think I know what video you're talking about. He gets the bike moving, throws a leg over and immediately does a huge wheelie? I was impresssed by that, too. But that's no comparison at all to the DR350. I didn't say it was a heavy bike, I said it was tall. The 96 DR350SE has a 36.2" seat height on the specifications, and I measured mine at 36". By comparison, the standard R1200GS has a 33" seat height, and 35.2" in ADV trim, according to wikipedia. The "very tall seat height" bike you provided as an example is still shorter than my "toy bike". Still, there is no comparison, as they are completely different bikes with completely different handling characteristics, as the 1200 is 500lbs, and 350 is 270lbs. But I'm glad other people found this video to be helpful.

@thegrudge6495 3 жыл бұрын

Do some actual trail riding and you'll be like an old tree in a hurricane Timber!!! That's just too much bike for you son

@SamChou 3 жыл бұрын

Say what you will, but I've logged 15,000+ miles on this bike in every terrain, and am having a great time. I do drop it sometimes, but I pick it up and keep going. Timber! ...Braaap!