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Another Modular Laptop??? - GPD Pocket 3

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@sp3lllz
@sp3lllz 2 жыл бұрын
As a field based network engineer this is awesome. Being a portable kvm and serial for the old time you encounter an ancient switch I think someone will be making a new equipment expenses request
@QueenOfArabianSea
@QueenOfArabianSea 2 жыл бұрын
How I could have used every day for the 17 years I ran a data center!!!
@joe_ferreira
@joe_ferreira 2 жыл бұрын
Ultimate portable crash cart.
@siedenburg1
@siedenburg1 2 жыл бұрын
KVM would be more usefull if it was vga in most cases (most modern server still have vga), but the serial port AND network is something that could lead to a new "emergency" device in case of a not responding switch etc.
@joe_ferreira
@joe_ferreira 2 жыл бұрын
@@siedenburg1 vga to HDMI is very available.
@Xfade81
@Xfade81 2 жыл бұрын
you just want to game
@rkaidia
@rkaidia 2 жыл бұрын
As soon as you said they were hdmi and usb input, jaw on floor. The amout of utility that would afford me at work is nuts. Currently have an 8 inch display and driver from eBay and a mini keyboard/trackpad jammed in a 3d printed case, which is essentially this but I have to carry my laptop around too and need a spot to power the display or run an external battery bank. I need this in my life
@watcheths
@watcheths 2 жыл бұрын
There are similar products out there that's just screen+keyboard+battery, some with touch. They're significantly cheaper, I think last I saw was around 400€, but the additional utility of it having an actual GP CPU with a decent screen could be well worth the difference.
@PsycosisIncarnated
@PsycosisIncarnated 2 жыл бұрын
Wtf do you do?
@NiSiRewinD
@NiSiRewinD 2 жыл бұрын
@@PsycosisIncarnated Aynthing IT service related would quality, really. AT least P2P
@timtim2949
@timtim2949 2 жыл бұрын
@@watcheths Could you share some search terms or something? I’m mostly interested in the KVM-functionality of this thing, but if I can just buy a “dumb” version of this with just a screen+keyboard+battery without losing the portability, that would be my preference.
@watcheths
@watcheths 2 жыл бұрын
@@timtim2949 Sadly not really, I found them on Amazon or Ali Express while lookig for a monitor that was easier to bring with me to a LAN party. I remember that I thought it would be awesome for (or at this point instead-of) a crash cart, but I also remember that the descriptions were atrocious.
@JeeTinator
@JeeTinator 2 жыл бұрын
Coming from someone who works at a datacenter, I can see this being extremely useful. Having a kvm or a serial port so you can quickly connect to a server who just doesn’t want to work on power up or to console into a switch to do quick troubleshoots or programming. I can see this being a absolute godsend. What would make it better is maybe if it was a little bit bigger but that’s a personal preference and also to have 2 modular ports as opposed to just one. But I understand there is only so much you can fit in a small package.
@mattbrown292
@mattbrown292 2 жыл бұрын
The kvm functionality isn't that mind blowing. Just use a crash cart, which every data center I've been in has.
@JeeTinator
@JeeTinator 2 жыл бұрын
@@mattbrown292 yes you are right, could get a crash cart but then you have to go and ask the datacenter and they have to go get one for you. Sometimes you would have to wait if they are particularly busy.
@satibel
@satibel 2 жыл бұрын
@@mattbrown292 if you're in industrial tech where you actually might have to get on a running robot cart or a crawlspace you don't always have the luxury of a cart and having a small pc with serial, ethernet and kvm capabilities that fits in a cargo pocket or a zippable hoodie would be pretty awesome.
@shadow9x995
@shadow9x995 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when the AMD FX 9590 hit 5GHz and everyone was astounded at how many watts it took. Now, only ~8 years later, we've got a pocket-sized laptop that can turbo to 5GHz and use less than 1/10th as many watts.
@One90972
@One90972 2 жыл бұрын
I doubt it can hit 5ghz more than for a few seconds
@blendpinexus1416
@blendpinexus1416 Жыл бұрын
i don't think it's sipping that little power to punch at 5ghz for a brief turbo
@Rokr424
@Rokr424 Жыл бұрын
lol i have a 9590 on my desk right now. i call it "hot box"
@durschfalltv7505
@durschfalltv7505 5 ай бұрын
According to intel we should have 10ghz for 5 years now.
@bamzilla.
@bamzilla. 2 жыл бұрын
This is a datacenter tech's wet dream.
@cxdeblue6055
@cxdeblue6055 2 жыл бұрын
As a datacenter tech, will confirm. Sending the link to this video to my boss :)
@AmeanAbdelfattah
@AmeanAbdelfattah 2 жыл бұрын
@@cxdeblue6055 Business Justification: I want it.
@TechPorkChop
@TechPorkChop 2 жыл бұрын
YES. Since the Surface Neo failed to launch. This looks like the next best thing.
@JulianSildenLanglo
@JulianSildenLanglo 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like it could be a good fit for broadcasting too.
@marksaunders3055
@marksaunders3055 2 жыл бұрын
@@cxdeblue6055 Make sure you let your boss also know how shoddy GPD are with customer support. I have the previous version with a serial port as I thought it would be great in the datacenter and it was for 4 months, then the battery died and it is now a paper weight. I have been trying to get a replacement battery for over 2 years now but GPD customer support just ignore the emails. Also make sure you tell him about the data breach over Win3 customers with faulty units.
@Painewalker
@Painewalker 2 жыл бұрын
"They made it Linus resistant!" face it, Linus will still find a way to drop it.
@motoryzen
@motoryzen 2 жыл бұрын
Yeap...That first linux challenge video is an EASY example of that. Pop os WARNED him. " you are about to remove essential packages". Linus has BEEN an adult for over 13 years now and has no excuse there. .... ESSENTIAL...it's not fucking rocket science, ( Linus )
@-joo3033
@-joo3033 2 жыл бұрын
Linus Resistant...nothing is Linus Proof
@BlindRambler
@BlindRambler 2 жыл бұрын
I was expecting him to smack himself on the face when I saw that
@BlindRambler
@BlindRambler 2 жыл бұрын
@@motoryzen Arch?
@claytonhull3825
@claytonhull3825 2 жыл бұрын
Linus resistant, Not Linus proof
@Segmaster01
@Segmaster01 2 жыл бұрын
As an IT Consultant and network/systems engineer... this thing is EXACTLY what I’ve been waiting for GPD to release. I’ve been tempted by their mini laptops before, but I think it’s time to pull the trigger. This one seems to fix all the annoyances and has just the right feature set.
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
For the first time since people started talking about the original Win/Pocket/etc. I'm sold on this concept. But I can't throw $1000 at it :/
@dgSolidarity
@dgSolidarity 2 жыл бұрын
Are there any vids talking about mobile live broadcasting? This seems the perfect tool, almost too good to be true (just lacks a SIM slot) but ideally someone would contrast using a microPC to the likes of a Yolobox, while on-the-go.
@WinterCedar
@WinterCedar 2 жыл бұрын
that's the enteral struggle
@Ataraxia_Atom
@Ataraxia_Atom 2 жыл бұрын
This is certainly the best one. Very interesting
@dushk0
@dushk0 2 жыл бұрын
When I saw the thumbnail: "Yay! The device of my 2004 dreams" 🤣
@Olterior
@Olterior 2 жыл бұрын
500 and i buy it. The entry level one is €667
@RubyRoks
@RubyRoks 2 жыл бұрын
If my dad could use personal laptops for work, this would be at the top of his christmas list. Having a serial port for HAM Radio is the reason he's still using an old Thinkpad, but having a KVM built into your netbook is a killer idea for IT or equipment installers
@Daphoid
@Daphoid 2 жыл бұрын
Might be worth a business case and just have it imaged with the company's Windows image!
@enkiimuto1041
@enkiimuto1041 2 жыл бұрын
linus months ago: idk if i even should review these anymore because of the investment linus now: * vibrantly excited about other laptops doing a great job * I'm glad
@CreativityNull
@CreativityNull 2 жыл бұрын
The way you know a laptop isn't interesting now is whether or not Linus is in the video :P JK, the laptop could have Linus and still not be interesting (unlike this one) :P JK
@orlagh277
@orlagh277 2 жыл бұрын
@@CreativityNull sorry i didnt quite understand, were you jk?
@CreativityNull
@CreativityNull 2 жыл бұрын
@@orlagh277 lol I did that because there's always going to be someone who takes it seriously, especially since text isn't a great medium for anything indirect.
@BrodeyH
@BrodeyH 2 жыл бұрын
TBH I don't even see this thing competing with a laptop, this thing is a tool
@CreativityNull
@CreativityNull 2 жыл бұрын
@@BrodeyH NO U! JK. Yeah, but as a desktop user and IT guy, I really only view laptops as tools or entertainment devices, not as workstations. This would be something I would lie down and watch videos on or plug into a network switch to diagnose problems or make changes. I have a laptop that also only serves those purposes.
@mustard_master5083
@mustard_master5083 2 жыл бұрын
i got a laptop in my back pocket
@telepathicdragon
@telepathicdragon 2 жыл бұрын
This gpd looks like the perfect fully featured kind of device that i'm surprised hasn't existed before. Espetially the hdmi in has always been something i've wondered how there hasn't been more devices with that option but understandably it's sort of a niche application, but extremely useful when you need a quick screen on the go to do stuff. It also gives the device more long term usability if somehow the hardware becomes too old/weak (unlikely) but you still want to have it around.
@mowtow90
@mowtow90 Жыл бұрын
Its not a niche application. There is a big demand for stuff like that in data centers and other admin/maintance jobs , however they ware killed of years ago by film/record producers. Do you remember the capture cards and imputs computers from the early 2000s had ? People used them to record tv shows and that forced the intelectial properly loby to step in. This is why getting a computer with inputs ,rother then outputs is difficult. You are opening yourself for lawsauit by the record/producers for the "possablity of missuse". As you can see the KVM function doesnt block the onboard computer , the video output is shown on a program , just like "Crash cards" so technically you can use it for such stuff.
@MakersMuse
@MakersMuse 2 жыл бұрын
OK so that HDMI In, can you connect up a DSLR and plug that into OBS for streaming, or is it for remoting into PCs only? If it can be used for streaming I'm losing my mind rn. So done with external capture solutions.
@AugustERaven
@AugustERaven 2 жыл бұрын
And with Thunderbolt and external PCI. There's so much possible, daily chain some Black Magic TB4 capture along with 25G QSFP!!!
@Incommensurabilities
@Incommensurabilities 2 жыл бұрын
@@gnarf. Perhaps a different expansion card could be made to capture video?
@MakersMuse
@MakersMuse 2 жыл бұрын
@@gnarf. lame, I did suspect but wanted to confirm. Thanks!
@spartan5280
@spartan5280 2 жыл бұрын
@@MakersMuse On the website they show the video being passed into a windows program. It may just use an internal capture card.
@randName
@randName 2 жыл бұрын
There is another review that shows obs capture on linux working, so it seems to be just a built-in capture card
@efernandez089
@efernandez089 2 жыл бұрын
if you get usb Kvm and hdmi-input in framework pc, its going to be a massive success
@IngwiePhoenix
@IngwiePhoenix 2 жыл бұрын
literally one of the features i am hoping they end up adding. Especially after I saw this. This is such a killer feature!
@efernandez089
@efernandez089 2 жыл бұрын
@John Smith kvm could be a game changer!
@KingBowserLP
@KingBowserLP 2 жыл бұрын
@John Smith with capture cards you're at the mercy of drivers and software being available and working; this is an actual kvm switch, so completely software independent.
@KingBowserLP
@KingBowserLP 2 жыл бұрын
@John Smith anything video is notorious for having driver issues even on supported OSs. that it just works has to do with your specific configuration - your system probably uses windows and the incoming signal is likely standard hdmi from source, right? I've had issues capturing converted signals (vga etc) and weird manufacturer specific hdmi that displays fine on a monitor but my capture card couldn't decipher it correctly.
@KingBowserLP
@KingBowserLP 2 жыл бұрын
@John Smith so, standard PC hdmi. thank you for describing your setup!
@LemonRush7777
@LemonRush7777 2 жыл бұрын
This is the Steam Deck equivalent to the production minded. It's amazingly jam packed with useful and uncommon stuff.
@RyanStein57275
@RyanStein57275 2 жыл бұрын
This could definitely be useful for me, I work in networks on commercial planes and carrying around a full-size laptop to multiple planes a night along with the components needed to fix them gets a bit overwhelming after a while
@modernkennnern
@modernkennnern 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that not all laptops have Display IN had annoyed me for years
@mrcrackerist
@mrcrackerist 2 жыл бұрын
or no usb input...
@alexandrutereify
@alexandrutereify 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrcrackerist every single usb device is bidirectional, wym no usb input?
@mrcrackerist
@mrcrackerist 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexandrutereify you can't connect two computers over usb.
@alexandrutereify
@alexandrutereify 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrcrackerist you cant do that with this either, its just a keyboard passthrough. And you actually can connect two computers over USB, one as a slave and one as master via the OTG USB protocol.
@los0128
@los0128 2 жыл бұрын
As an engine tuner, i have had to use a serial port to connect to certain older equipment (I.e. Innovate LC-1 Wideband O2), recently,had to buy a usb to serial (keyspan) adapter
@Chris-hu5eq
@Chris-hu5eq 2 жыл бұрын
On work we used usb to serial adapters because on our company laptops the serial port was right next to the charger and inserting the carging cable blind often led to frying the serial port with 20V and thus destroying the serial port. The adapter cables are actually nice and cheap
@dposcuro
@dposcuro 2 жыл бұрын
After seeing Scotty on MCM folded into tiny cars, and jamming a laptop in with him? Probably also a hell of a lot easier to use inside of a car!
@MrFastFox666
@MrFastFox666 2 жыл бұрын
This'll take the 'Honda Civic with a laptop' meme to a whole new level.
@los0128
@los0128 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrFastFox666 Ironically i tune mostly E36 BMW's (usually for SCCA ITR class) on a Mustang-150-AWD Dyno (which is what i needed the serial Adapter for), the Thumbnail is my personal Autocross car.......
@Jimster481
@Jimster481 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely, I was thinking about how useful this would be for tuners.
@fuckyoutubefuckinghandles
@fuckyoutubefuckinghandles 2 жыл бұрын
I've been keeping an eye on tiny laptops. This is amazing. I just wish there was more demand + competition in this space, only GPD seems to make anything worth talking about.
@ApolloMclaren
@ApolloMclaren Жыл бұрын
As a music producer and a big fan of not using mouse and keyboard to make music this is the perfect substitute to a laptop + ableton push. If you absolutely need the computer it’s there and it’s a perfect form factor for quick edits but the focus would turn to the push 9/10 times and that’s exactly what I enjoy. Someday this will be an affordable idea
@Nick-xv7xx
@Nick-xv7xx 2 жыл бұрын
honestly, with those specs and the feature set, I was guessing it would be around $2,000, not bad imo
@ItsSpoRTan
@ItsSpoRTan 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah same
@EikottXD
@EikottXD 2 жыл бұрын
@Poeta Del requinto sup
@thebrax
@thebrax 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@justniccy2402
@justniccy2402 2 жыл бұрын
How much is it then?
@Whoxoxo659
@Whoxoxo659 2 жыл бұрын
@@justniccy2402 around 1300 dollars with module and stylus(perhaps with shipping too?)
@Xyler94
@Xyler94 2 жыл бұрын
As a network admin... THAT SERIAL PORT
@IngwiePhoenix
@IngwiePhoenix 2 жыл бұрын
AND you can swap it for a mobile KVM if you need to. This... how has nobody done this before?!
@marksaunders3055
@marksaunders3055 2 жыл бұрын
Don't get to excited I had the previous version with a serial port and it was great for about 4 months and then the battery packed in and I have been waiting now for a number of years for GPD to send me a replacement. As soon as you get any problems with these devices GPD don't want to know.
@Xyler94
@Xyler94 2 жыл бұрын
@@marksaunders3055 oh I'm not buying this thing, I'm just happy to see Serial on a computer since Serial is very useful to a network admin.
@sang3Eta
@sang3Eta 2 жыл бұрын
As a network engineer I always carried around a tiny Toshiba Libretto laptop in my jacket pocket, it was so useful, and it did exist before!
@delledut
@delledut 2 жыл бұрын
i love this. i see it as a viable device to utilize commuting times and onsite support. now it just needs an integrated oscilloscope, high precision multimeter, low voltage adjustable psu output and a label printer. oh, sell pants and shirts with compatible pockets :D
@pvtpain66k
@pvtpain66k 2 жыл бұрын
"look modular parts!" "Oh, is Framework making it?" "nope" That conversation right there is why Framework making a modular laptop was so important. A literal game changer.
@larsradtke4097
@larsradtke4097 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody remembers PC Cards....
@ac.creations
@ac.creations 2 жыл бұрын
@@larsradtke4097 I used to play runescape on a laptop with a large expansion card to give it wifi. The expansion slot idea hasnt been "expanded" on enough to become adopted by a majority.
@florianfelix8295
@florianfelix8295 2 жыл бұрын
Actually people thinking framework invented this space is ridiculous. They are just an us company, and that’s their bonus.
@SimonBauer7
@SimonBauer7 2 жыл бұрын
@@larsradtke4097 i for one do! our first laptop didnt have wifi so we got a wifi expresscard
@larsradtke4097
@larsradtke4097 2 жыл бұрын
@@SimonBauer7 I still have two laptops here for office from 2008, that have USB 3.0 express cards.... VGA card, FireWire, serial.....
@B2MAI
@B2MAI 2 жыл бұрын
OMG, This gonna be useful for me in a lot of ways. I will defiantly consider buying one. Thanks Linus
@dutmala
@dutmala 2 жыл бұрын
Can you tell for what? I'm legit interested what the use case is for this thing
@elellipsis
@elellipsis 2 жыл бұрын
@@dutmala Who are you planning on defying by considering it?
@aymanhassan8178
@aymanhassan8178 2 жыл бұрын
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@Hello2215.
@Hello2215. 2 жыл бұрын
@@dutmala Scientists would love this. To be able to carry a computer with serial around to all your equipment is perfect. Puts all your data in the one place and means you don't need bulky desktops where you may not have space or budget for multiple computers. In the field as a scientist you often need a tablet style device for data recording but also to annotate the notes. Also in server farms this would be a good portable interface for config etc, especially in systems that don't have existing interfaces
@anharun
@anharun 2 жыл бұрын
probably for using cash drawer
@SpicyOliv
@SpicyOliv 2 жыл бұрын
That KVM and serial port, this thing is destined for Lab 1
@you_just
@you_just 2 жыл бұрын
definitely a product for certain consumers. where i work, there's hundreds of embedded linux machines spread around the facility. this device would be an absolute dream for troubleshooting and repair, not to mention network testing.
@dannypark5764
@dannypark5764 2 жыл бұрын
Great to see a resurgence of tiny form factor laptops. I had a Fujitsu U810 back in high school and it was an awesome tiny laptop I took to class everywhere, but the UMPC craze died and no one made them anymore. This could be a great replacement for the iPad I use now.
@jubuttib
@jubuttib 2 жыл бұрын
0:32 I had an Asus Eee PC for years (until the battery crapped out completely), can't remember the exact model but it was one of the non blocky ones, smooth clamshell design, and it was whisper quiet, and fast enough to run photoshop. By no means was it super great, but it filled it's purpose admirably well!
@johnd5740
@johnd5740 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I miss my 701, put a heavily reduced version of XP on it.
@jubuttib
@jubuttib 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnd5740 I was feeding mine straight up Windows 8 towards the end... =)
@Montisaquadeis
@Montisaquadeis 2 жыл бұрын
you can buy a modern "netbook" with the same class of cpu if you get either a celeron or pentium class cpu in say the $200-$400 range.
@jubuttib
@jubuttib 2 жыл бұрын
@@Montisaquadeis Of for sure, but I've moved on to bigger 2-in-1s. Still, it was a great device for the time, very useful all around.
@tboatrig
@tboatrig 2 жыл бұрын
I had one of those too, was my laptop through college. I loved it. I kept it in use until the internet out grew it. I keep it around hoping one day I can stuff a raspberry pi in it and give it a better screen.
@gromett
@gromett 2 жыл бұрын
That high end version would be fantastic for me. When you said expensive I was expecting $2K - $3K. $1200 is a bargain for what it can do for me. I love it.
@bend8353
@bend8353 8 ай бұрын
Under $600 now if you look for sales
@santanusekhar986
@santanusekhar986 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think Linus needed a script for this. Man is genuinely speaking from the heart here. Need more content like this.
@tbthegr81
@tbthegr81 2 жыл бұрын
The one being compared to is the Pocket 1, not the Pocket 2. Pocket 2 had a IR tracker and weird mousebuttons above the keyboard. (But was still worthless to use...)
@scrampker
@scrampker 2 жыл бұрын
Came here for this. Looking at my Pocket 2 on the desk thinking wtf.
@winthropdc1
@winthropdc1 2 жыл бұрын
I have used my Pocket 2 lots and have found it very handy. But I also backed the Pocket 3 when it became available. 😁
@imploud
@imploud 2 жыл бұрын
You're right
@HoobalugalarX
@HoobalugalarX 2 жыл бұрын
yeah definitely not the pocket 2 being compared, I have one of those (partly based on linus's review of it) its completely brilliant in almost every way, apart from not having a video out, the 3 having not only a full hdmi out but also IN is crazy, still its starting to be too big to go in ones pocket
@nikoo896
@nikoo896 2 жыл бұрын
That serial port tho. This is it gentlemen, finally a worthy contender for replacing all the aging thinkpads!
@rallywagon261
@rallywagon261 2 жыл бұрын
This would be awesome for the on site portion of my job. I do managed LAN for a state gov. We have thousands of Cisco switches across the state. Having that serial port, along with that small form factor, would be bad ass.
@zacharyburd2647
@zacharyburd2647 4 ай бұрын
You completely had me sold until I realized the semicolon was in the wrong spot.
@spdcrzy
@spdcrzy 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, industrial engineers are gonna LOVE this lmao. I need to get one!
@FlyboyHelosim
@FlyboyHelosim 2 жыл бұрын
Plot twist: you're not an industrial engineer.
@spdcrzy
@spdcrzy 2 жыл бұрын
@@FlyboyHelosim not yet. I'm studying to be an industrial data scientist. And I DID work in an industrial engineering company lol.
@tommegg8486
@tommegg8486 2 жыл бұрын
@@spdcrzy best of on your study man!
@matasa7463
@matasa7463 2 жыл бұрын
@@spdcrzy Well, then you did work as an engineer lol.
@NigelMelanisticSmith
@NigelMelanisticSmith 2 жыл бұрын
If you just need a serial port, GPD has a product called the "Micro PC" that is cheaper and has Serial
@thenoddingturtle
@thenoddingturtle 2 жыл бұрын
@@gnarf. Weird. My Micro PC doesn't have these problems. Definitely worth its money. The keyboard has a learning curve (especially when you're trying to use a non-english layout) though.
@mar2ck_
@mar2ck_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@gnarf. GPD's track record with quality control is pretty bad unfortunately. It wouldn't be so bad if their customer service wasn't so god awful
@FlyboyHelosim
@FlyboyHelosim 2 жыл бұрын
Or just buy an old laptop for peanuts.
@Pro720HyperMaster720
@Pro720HyperMaster720 2 жыл бұрын
I think also made a video about it, I don't remember if here or in LTT, but thanks to bring it to the table because probably not much people knew it, I think the GPD MicroPC didn't have a video input, maybe they take a note for the next version
@Jeffers3094
@Jeffers3094 2 жыл бұрын
@@thenoddingturtle Issues with batteries affect all users who did the kickstarter. For a long time I was a nay sayer, because my battery was perfect but 1 day it just randomly didn't work. When I asked for a free replacement GPD told me in no uncertain terms f off. Even though they admit all first gen Micro's have a battery fault.
@Christooable
@Christooable 2 жыл бұрын
This has huge potential in the tinkerer space, the Serial port and the KVM functionality make it the perfect for Arduino, ESP32 and Pi's.
@chadlumpkin2375
@chadlumpkin2375 2 жыл бұрын
I have an OQO Model 1+. It was incredible for its time (2005)
@ryanbane
@ryanbane 2 жыл бұрын
GPD shipped me a faulty device. (the Win Max) I reached out immediately, they made ME pay to ship it to China ($120) then refused to fix it. As tantalizing as their products are, I can’t do business with someone like that. Besides, all 3 of the GPD devices I’ve ordered over the past several years have had major QC issues.
@javiej
@javiej 2 жыл бұрын
Good point, I plan to buy one of this but I'll wait until it is available on Amazon. It will be certainly more expensive, but if something is not right I get Amazon refund. This formula worked fine for me so many times...
@marsrocket
@marsrocket 2 жыл бұрын
I’d purchase it with a credit card and contest the charge if it didn’t work.
@ryanbane
@ryanbane 2 жыл бұрын
@@marsrocket I did contest the purchase. Unfortunately, they sided with GPD.
@drumboarder1
@drumboarder1 2 жыл бұрын
I'd expect this buying anything directly from an international business, especially from China
@D600Active
@D600Active 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this is why I absolutely wouldn't buy a GPD device except through a store in my own country that offers its own warranty. Glad I made this decision as when my Pocket 2 died after 11 months I got a replacement with little hassle.
@kajurn791
@kajurn791 2 жыл бұрын
This has quite a few niches, some the old GPD pocket already was good enough, but this has a few more on top of it. Not fair to compare it to entry level gaming laptops in value because it's a different niche, but i'd take this over any of the similarly specced ultrabooks that are often as expensive or even more so.
@florianfelix8295
@florianfelix8295 2 жыл бұрын
Simply for a convertible with a stylus and good performance that still has usable keyboard functionality where you usually go with a iPad pro or surface I would take this any time actually if I would have that money
@taavireimann4156
@taavireimann4156 2 жыл бұрын
We need more laptops/All in ones with video-in!
@TheDarkKRoo
@TheDarkKRoo Жыл бұрын
my old netbook was pretty good. still works too never really thought it was any louder than any other laptop I had.
@CNC-Time-Lapse
@CNC-Time-Lapse 2 жыл бұрын
This is an AWESOME little PC. For those in IT who have to manage physical servers, this will replace the media cart at the data center and that serial port is perfect!
@denvera1g1
@denvera1g1 2 жыл бұрын
8:35 this is the GPD Pocket 1, with Atom x7-8000 8GB of RAM and 128GB eMMC The main difference between the Pocket 1 and the Pocket 2, visually, was the keyboard, and the removal of the trackpoint, which, i normally prefer trackpoint, but their implimentation left a lot to be desired. The trackpoint was replaced with an optical mouse placed up where the power button used to be on the Pocket 1 (like some blackberry or android phones) I still have my Pocket 1, though i currently use it for more of an IOT like roll with that battery backup and decent linux performance
@legorj35
@legorj35 2 жыл бұрын
finally someone who noticed that too
@TechnologistAtWork
@TechnologistAtWork 2 жыл бұрын
Just an FYI RS232 can carry much more power and interface with much larger gague wires. Something USB can't do for industrial purposes. It's not really a legacy port for industrial use because we simply can't replace them.
@rsoodun
@rsoodun 2 жыл бұрын
About 18 years ago...I was training a PC technician... first day on the job. I went on a call out..got a call from the boss. During my absence, the kid did exactly what you did in this video. In a conversation with the boss, he used a screwdriver to point to some parts on the MB. Tech career went up in "smokes"..
@thanhavictus
@thanhavictus 2 жыл бұрын
If they made a full size version it would outclass a lot of other "modern" portable laptops too
@jasonbernal9348
@jasonbernal9348 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see something in the 10-11 inch class that isn't a Chromebook, if this was just a bit bigger, I'd buy one in a heartbeat
@Montisaquadeis
@Montisaquadeis 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonbernal9348 You have "netbooks" running with celeron/pentium cpus that run windows in that size range still. I personally own a 14" 1080p Celeron N3450 (quad core cpu) 4gb ram 32gb emmc Windows 10 based "netbook" myself. Cost about $220 in 2018/2019 and it is basically what those "Netbooks' of yore have turned into and the industry has dropped the "netbook" branding/term even tho that is basically what they still are.
@jasonbernal9348
@jasonbernal9348 2 жыл бұрын
@@Montisaquadeis I'm sorry. I meant to include that they have more than just a Pentium or Celeron processor. I'm probably going to end up with a 13 inch with with i7 or Ryzen 7 when I break down and replace my older Lenovo Yoga
@handlemonium
@handlemonium 2 жыл бұрын
They do have the P2 Max. Definitely looking forward to an up-specced P3 Max (11-12 inches vs. 9 inches maybe?).
@nickthaskater
@nickthaskater 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonbernal9348 OneNetbook 4 is a 10" with the same specs.
@IngwiePhoenix
@IngwiePhoenix 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, the HDMI input/USB output on this as a mobile KVM is a killer feature, holy crap!! You could probably even use this like a NexDock at this point. This is so sick man, oh my god. I wish there was like a 13" version with this very feature and a more affordable price tag (700-900 bucks). Would be an instant-buy imho. The utility in this thing is just plain amazing. I mean, think. This works on so many things - from Pis to servers. There are some crazy ass things you can do with just a serial port and it's nuts!
@Swordgaming360
@Swordgaming360 2 жыл бұрын
1:03 It is very rare for a tech company to pass the "Linus Test" and make it Linus proof
@gentuxable
@gentuxable 2 жыл бұрын
Right now I have their MicroPC for a couple of years, it's just a bit too small but even with Celeron surprisingly fast for its size, I instantly ordered the GPD Pocket 3 as a worthy successor. KVM is just what I was looking for.
@thecyberquake618
@thecyberquake618 2 жыл бұрын
This would make working on random desktops so much easier with that kvm module.
@wrob08
@wrob08 2 жыл бұрын
Linus: "It's 1920 by 1200 which I think is the perfect resolution for a device like this. This is an 8 inch screen so you're not going to see the freakin' pixels." Me watching this on a 1920x1200 24" monitor: *Sad noises*
@flameshana9
@flameshana9 2 жыл бұрын
Me watching on a 32 inch *1080p* monitor. But srsly, I have a large tablet with around that resolution so I know how much better it is. The difference is I don't have my nose glued to the monitor.
@DejonckheereWard
@DejonckheereWard 2 жыл бұрын
put it 10 cm further away :)
@TodorKatsarski
@TodorKatsarski 2 жыл бұрын
*Me watching on 22 inch 1080p monitor...
@d4rkkg4m3r4
@d4rkkg4m3r4 2 жыл бұрын
I'm watching on a old TV with 32 inch and it's 1280x720...
@DejonckheereWard
@DejonckheereWard 2 жыл бұрын
am i the only one who would still put the video quality on 4k even tho my screen is only 1080p or lower?
@RayRayIsCoolio
@RayRayIsCoolio 2 жыл бұрын
That was a smooth transition. You know the one I’m talking about.
@DavidStruveDesigns
@DavidStruveDesigns 2 жыл бұрын
This seems like the perfect little "sketchbook" for digital artists to take out and about with them. A lot less awkward, perhaps, than whipping out a tablet to do quick and rough drawings on the go and it's windows so all the graphic software you could want will work on it! 👍😁
@johannoas1
@johannoas1 2 жыл бұрын
Ok I never would use it, but I can see how this thing can be extreemly useful for some IT guys. This will be amazing for almost any special workplace.
@exturkconner
@exturkconner 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm if this this was like toughbook rugged this would be an amazing little pc for all sorts of outdoor work. Super portable, decent batter, being able to change ports to anything needed.
@ShadowTV2006
@ShadowTV2006 2 жыл бұрын
idk, i have found my gpd pocket 2 to be very unreliable, often booting into the bios or just deciding not to accept keyboard and mouse input, or occasionally just not waking up from sleep at all, requiring you to hold down the power button for like 30 seconds and then reboot.
@FFXfever
@FFXfever 2 жыл бұрын
I think that's the intention of the max 3
@iqcq2063
@iqcq2063 2 жыл бұрын
It has always been my dream for a tiny gaming laptop that is semi affordable and seriously powerful. In a few years if there is nothing on the market im probably gonna make a kickstarter and make one.
@lungshenli
@lungshenli 2 жыл бұрын
That little whooosh sound effect as Linus opened the back panel was a really cute touch
@kademahler5805
@kademahler5805 2 жыл бұрын
This is almost so cool for anyone working backend server IT, but I know of very few rack servers or blade systems that use HDMI for their KVM output…..
@dejavecu
@dejavecu 2 жыл бұрын
3:22
@mscd9676
@mscd9676 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, just get a vga/DP/whatever to hdmi cable and you're golden,
@ShadowSlayer1441
@ShadowSlayer1441 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but I’m almost certain you could get a VGA port chip. Also reality aside, server should really just start using a more modern standard, I mean spending tens of thousands of dollars on a rack with incredible performance, a HDMI port would be nice.
@mscd9676
@mscd9676 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShadowSlayer1441 if we're changing anything, there's a better port already - let's just make usb c a thing in the rack space
@FARBerserker
@FARBerserker 2 жыл бұрын
The single Port KVM Functionality is . . Why does nobody else do this?
@Reaperman4711
@Reaperman4711 2 жыл бұрын
I could have really used one of these maybe half a decade ago, but now that it's pretty common for KVMs to be networked, I rarely stand at a rack. And when I do, I need VGA.
@halfblood_drag0n
@halfblood_drag0n Жыл бұрын
my in the hell does that have more io than my laptop
@Pacavi
@Pacavi 2 жыл бұрын
GPD sounds like it'd stand for Gaming Personality Disorder
@youkofoxy
@youkofoxy 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe it's the first time I seen, heard or thought of such disorder.
@plutoniumshore
@plutoniumshore 2 жыл бұрын
2:27 Can imagine how much life we could pump into old laptops if they could accept usb/video INPUTS? Yowza...I wanna live in THAT world.
@FooBar89
@FooBar89 23 күн бұрын
6:06 the hinge of that Framework flexing so much 🙄
@i.lostblur
@i.lostblur 2 жыл бұрын
i'd buy just that HMDI-in/usb kvm module to use with a laptop over usb
@InternetEntity
@InternetEntity 2 жыл бұрын
That's not a "Pocket 2", that is a Pocket (1) with the mouse nub. I have a Pocket 2, which has the upside down mouse/optical sensor.
@blendpinexus1416
@blendpinexus1416 Жыл бұрын
*the people that it's useful for* "You can do that?" *the few manufacturers cornering that market* "wait that's an illegal move"
@MandrakeDCR
@MandrakeDCR 2 жыл бұрын
There's my next laptop right there -> I can have an in-device serial port for all the Adtrans and older Cisco equipment I have to plug into and reconfig / provide a remote smart console to.
@Neoxon619
@Neoxon619 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if they’ll make a Pocket variant for gaming, but the modularity is nice.
@sedasauce5030
@sedasauce5030 2 жыл бұрын
The closest you'll get is the Gpd win max.
@rassular
@rassular 2 жыл бұрын
Yea the Win Max is literally the same SOC but with a controller in it lol (also AMD)
@swlak516
@swlak516 2 жыл бұрын
GPD has a lot of other cool stuff. They're legit
@EpicB
@EpicB 2 жыл бұрын
This is basically already a Win Max but for non-gaming niches.
@kanisnealon5062
@kanisnealon5062 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh, you gotta address the fact that they move the semi colon key when you're discussing keyboard layout. I was literally thinking about buying one until I noticed that, and only because I was paying close attention. For the kind of person you're pitching this to (sysadmin, server monitoring kind of person), semi colon can be a very important key. Not to mention the fact that it's literally part of the "home row" which most people use when typing... Seems like a major issue/potential deal breaker worth noting
@KineticBlitz
@KineticBlitz 2 жыл бұрын
1:05 Ah yes, the *TYPCE*-C cable. A personal favorite.
@TheoHiggins
@TheoHiggins Жыл бұрын
8:25 when Linus is comparing the keyboard layout of the Pocket 3 to the Pocket 2, he's not actually holding the Pocket 2, that's the Pocket 1. He thoroughly went over the minor differences between the 1 and 2 in the Pocket 2 video, so I'm surprised he didn't even notice.
@cirmothe9
@cirmothe9 2 жыл бұрын
$1300 for the full spec is actually not as high as I thought it would be. Seems pretty reasonable.
@gavinthecrafter
@gavinthecrafter 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah if you dont consider its size it isn't a great value but for such a small laptop its amazing
@ArgentStonecutter
@ArgentStonecutter Жыл бұрын
And the low end one is more like $700 than $1000.
@SicariusGaming87
@SicariusGaming87 2 жыл бұрын
This would be fantastic to play roms on when traveling either by car (as a passenger) or on a plane.
@domagojbatinic1526
@domagojbatinic1526 2 жыл бұрын
there are cheaper options for emulation on the go
@viztiz316
@viztiz316 2 жыл бұрын
@@domagojbatinic1526 Don't even need a pc for that A phone will do
@rassular
@rassular 2 жыл бұрын
I don't see why you wouldn't use a Win Max for that instead unless you're also gonna use the modular part of this alot too.
@SicariusGaming87
@SicariusGaming87 2 жыл бұрын
@@domagojbatinic1526 true but if you already had this for other reasons, it would be a good choice
@gluttonousmaximus9048
@gluttonousmaximus9048 2 жыл бұрын
@@rassular Second this. I mean, just for the fact that it has a joypad.
@lefevrealban
@lefevrealban 2 жыл бұрын
If you are going to use this only as an external monitor and keyboard/mouse, you can also use a "smartphone laptop dock", like the nexdock. Gonna be much much cheaper as there is no actual computer inside, but it's going to be closer to a full size laptop.
@Grubik
@Grubik 2 жыл бұрын
Make something "Linusproof" is actualy achievement on its own.
@Hopgop1
@Hopgop1 2 жыл бұрын
I would love a full review on this, love the Pocket devices and this looks baller.
@marine6680
@marine6680 2 жыл бұрын
I got their micro pc for the serial port… Aviation still uses it for some older systems. Best thing I ever bought as a technician. The small size was the only limitation, and it only became a problem with some older poorly coded programs that didn’t handle the screen resolution well. This looks like a more capable version of that.
@B5152g
@B5152g 2 жыл бұрын
I would kind of like something like this with a touch screen, custom Linux distro on it made for easy touch navigation, pipewire for the Bluetooth audio, USB port for my DAC/AMP, and 2tb internal storage for my complete music collection.. good little portable media center..
@Nichomachean5
@Nichomachean5 11 ай бұрын
got it. This is for field technicians. And I have the first gen, and it rules. Standing in a data closet in tight spaces, these are the best. Or up on a tower? Waaay better. Especially if you're just running some basic network tests. Getting this one for the better processing power so I can hub it a better screen. Plus touch screen and the overkill processing power is going to be niiiiiice.
@Xzor
@Xzor 2 жыл бұрын
This thing looks amazing! So naturally it will be perpetually sold out, and then support will vanish... like every other amazing micro PC like this. 😐
@noytelinu
@noytelinu 2 жыл бұрын
GPD is such an amazing company. Too bad the p2 max gets no love It is the one I have and no one really cares, not even GPD
@ThaexakaMavro
@ThaexakaMavro 2 жыл бұрын
meh all they do is overpriced junk
@-joo3033
@-joo3033 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThaexakaMavro ...exept there arent cheap alternatives to make them "overpriced"
@tams805
@tams805 2 жыл бұрын
@Tong Zou They're going to say 'Steam Deck' aren't they, lol.
@iinfamousaznn
@iinfamousaznn 2 жыл бұрын
I beg to differ. I've had horrible issues with GPD when backing their Win 3. Leaked other customers emails, BS compensations when they knowingly sent out the wrong chip. CS team....good luck with that!
@r0galik
@r0galik 2 жыл бұрын
P2 max is OK, but yeah, no bios updates any more and its cooling isn't very effective. Sometimes when it gets hot, the screen starts to flash and you need to wait for a day or so for it to come back. Also, the keyboard switches kinda suck, especially the space misses presses. Can't beat the form factor though! And the screen is beautiful.
@RowanBird779
@RowanBird779 Ай бұрын
holy crap that BIOS menu is literally unreadable. also I love how it has thinkpad-style trackpoint buttons at the top left.
@postbyte1
@postbyte1 2 жыл бұрын
I work at industrial atmosphere. We still use the Comm ports. You peaked my interest.
@MrPipDarty
@MrPipDarty 2 жыл бұрын
For the price, I think I will be sticking with my Nexdock over this for a versatile kvm like terminal setup. I think they dropped the ball a bit in deciding what a handheld like this would be actually used for and had they kept this around 7-800 itd be much more palatable for alot of the people that'd be considering a device like this in the first place.
@Chunkosaurus
@Chunkosaurus 2 жыл бұрын
This is a steal for those this was actually designed for. If you think it's not it wasn't designed for you. This is an engineering and networking and Industrial tool not a consumer tool. At that it is incredible
@MrPipDarty
@MrPipDarty 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chunkosaurus I certainly don't disagree with you hence why I said I think and why Linus busy aid in the video the things you've echoed here. I can see the engineering and sciences applications where you may actually still encounter the odd serial port 100%, but I'm just trying to wrap my head around where and how this is worth a grand to the company employing a networking professional.
@Chunkosaurus
@Chunkosaurus 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrPipDarty the fact it is a full fledged computer that can also act as a kvm to hook up to a server rack is fantastic. I might push to get one of these for my robotics software team for any field issues they can grab this one and head to the field
@giokazephyn354
@giokazephyn354 2 жыл бұрын
I see HDMI-in on a fully functioning laptop, and my first thought is “Can I stream console games from this thing?” Framework should take some notes. I would absolutely by an expansion card for this.
@hamcha
@hamcha 2 жыл бұрын
You probably cannot, it likely goes straight to monitor, not a capture card
@kylecook4806
@kylecook4806 2 жыл бұрын
@@hamcha Actually it should be able to, somone on KZfaq showed a video of them using it as an alternative "webcam" input in one of windows default application instead of it just acting like an input for the screen. It should be able to handshake with OBS as an input then. Edit : Here's the vid of the hdmi input working as an application input. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rKeDodl9ybrQpZc.html
@thethoeby
@thethoeby 2 жыл бұрын
@@kylecook4806 Nice, thanks
@SuburbaniteUrbanite
@SuburbaniteUrbanite Жыл бұрын
We circled all the way back to the early 90's laptops. I love it
@shd_samurai9676
@shd_samurai9676 2 жыл бұрын
'Linus-proof' is probably the best endorsement any piece of tech can receive.
@_framedlife
@_framedlife 2 жыл бұрын
I always wished for a laptop with that build in KVM functionality! I was hoping usb-C might make it a reality some day! here we are!
@LuuTuanAnhNA
@LuuTuanAnhNA 2 жыл бұрын
The people who install servers in the DC gonna love this thing. You just need to grab this small PC and you can use as a console and then after you done with basic server configuration, just connect it with ethernet then you can remote to the server via RDP or web console.
@SeraphimKnight
@SeraphimKnight 2 жыл бұрын
I remember my mom's EeePC that I used to borrow. It could ALMOST run 10 year old japanese visual novels, which reading them in bed was my primary use for it. Times sure have changed.
@night.2257
@night.2257 2 жыл бұрын
Love the fact that he opens it for us so we don’t have to
@XzaroX
@XzaroX 2 жыл бұрын
I like to see love for GPD from someone. Ever since Steam Deck got announced GPD and other indies started getting trashed for no good reason by most people. I have a GPD Win Max 2021 and loving every bit of it.
@marksaunders3055
@marksaunders3055 2 жыл бұрын
GPD are getting trashed over their shoddy QC with the Win3 muck up, that was happening before the Steam Deck.
@XzaroX
@XzaroX 2 жыл бұрын
@@marksaunders3055 That is true, but I'm talking generally about all indie devices. Most of the trashing is due to the fact that indies cannot sell them at a loss, nor have a massive marketing campaign, like Valve.
@jamesmiddleton4741
@jamesmiddleton4741 2 жыл бұрын
If windows 11 wasn't so buggy, this will be the perfect device for 11's amazing touchscreen support!
@raggedclawstarcraft6562
@raggedclawstarcraft6562 2 жыл бұрын
I think you know why microsoft makes service packs for their OS [: Windows 2000 had like 5 or maybe even more service packs.
@FeralFlare
@FeralFlare 2 жыл бұрын
This is a big upgrade to anyone that needs to do engineering field work, and also play Doom during "breaks"
@helioangelforeromora9326
@helioangelforeromora9326 2 жыл бұрын
"They made it Linus proof" Unlike Linux
@rollingtroll
@rollingtroll 2 жыл бұрын
I love how they can make stuff this small and powerful, it's awesome. Wonder how Lenovo/IBM thinks about the mouse buttons and keyboard light shortkey ;). There's just two things I wonder about - Why would you want this instead of a 12" laptop with the same functionality? In which case would this size difference matter? - Why don't they build the PSU in bigger laptops if they can make them this small, like they used to do in the 90's.
@Chunkosaurus
@Chunkosaurus 2 жыл бұрын
This is something that you can fit in a network or industrial techs tool bag while not requiring a separate bag for it. That's worth a lot
@florianfelix8295
@florianfelix8295 2 жыл бұрын
Why do you need 12+ inch for everything?
@trouncerrredits
@trouncerrredits 2 жыл бұрын
I can't stand big laptops. They're meant to be small. I've got an ultra wide monitor for when I want a big screen. My portable equipment should be as small as possible.
@keysersoju9823
@keysersoju9823 2 жыл бұрын
For me personally: 15.6 inch = Have to have a backpack 12-14 inch slim laptops = I can carry it with one hand 8 inch = fits in my hoodie pocket, both hands free. Should also fit in my pants pocket too although it'd be a tight fit.
@frozendude707
@frozendude707 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I miss that built in PSU from the good old days as well, but, having done thusands of repairs on computers I can see why it is had to do that now, you can still do it on rugged laptops, like the Dell and Panasonic ones, where the casing is large and performance is mediocre or less. The laptops that can sell in large quantities are either so thin that you have no chance to fit the large main inductor coil for the PSU anywhere, or they are big but have to cram a lot of cooling, battery and circuitry to give it good performance that fitting a 200+W PSU inside would make it as unwieldy as a ITX PC with a separate screen, in which case the ITX PC would be a way more cheap and reliable option, making the laptop almost unmarketable unless you need it as a loss leader for something else.
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