"und" ? Curb your germaness!

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@@Summersault666 ah shit, right, thanks! I edited it :)

Oneplus tablet has a many criticism one Louis Rossman made a video of one plus add worst ant repair feature when they encrypted they battery on bms chip so no one but one plus can fix it meaning you have a evil bms in your tablet unless you live in India where the government forced one plus to give third party repairs the right to repair products.

​@@Summersault666 just like in ich_iel SPRICH

Only thing missing was a comparison to other tablets, but here's hoping once they test more they'll be adding them into reviews

But sometimes they dont take a closer look at the devices and their software, and therefore sometimes they miss features that some people may find really useful.

@@PrimePixelKZfaq this is a shortcircuit unboxing tho lol not a review

@Alyx On some videos they kinda have their spin on it. And some other reviewers may state it in their unboxing though. Also they kinda use it for a couple of days on certain devices b4 the actual video. I guess you could argue that their schedule is pretty busy anyways.

I think it’s actually their inventory policy that every item received at LMG goes to labs and is tested before it is featured or used in any channel or video.

Yesss.... until they put auto-rotation function into the boot logo.

@@noc44 yeah but who does that

@@22oreos that's also what i'm curious to find

@@22oreos apple

@@noc44 yeah my iPad Pro 2022 has the auto rotate on the start up logo

is it all gen ipad pros or

Which is great because the major of the world uses A4 as a standard

@@FuzmintYT12.9 was always 4:3, they kept the screen the same size with the 2018 revamp, whereas the 11” had the screen expanded to match the casing, and the mini was like the 11” i think. ALL ipads with a home button are 4:3 tho

@@alyx6427 i’ve already figured that out not too long ago

or zram

Yeah I believe so... I'm pretty tired of them roasting it every video, it really isn't that bad for the storage.

Not very common on Android

@@username65585 My one plus 7 pro from like 2019 says it does swap for extended ram

@@HxHStudios it is fine. Problem is they are marking it as “ram” when it isn’t. A normal user might confuse it with actual ram when it is just swap. Lot of devices use swap. Imagine windows laptops advertising 48GB ram (16GB ram and 32GB swap/page file)

@David Gray L

Yet you’ll get a quality product, unlike this cheap copycat.

One plus pad is 500 dollars not 600

@@Justafacebutscaryhahaheheh never said it was? The assumption was to compare bundles: tablet, keyboard case, and pencil/stylus.

​@@Thewaterspirit57 Apple fanboy spotted

I'm surprised there's not more comments about that, it was driving me up the walls

Ive just looked around like crazy to find the source of that noise. JESUS

I turned it into a game where I tried to guess what it would be by the end of the vid. Had way too much fun w/ that lol

That was so annoying

Yes but nobody will buy it. You know everyone getting Apple tablet the ipad.

Well I was hoping for an alternative that’s not copy and paste of the others

@@CodeVenomSnakes I avoid apple like the plague. So any alternatives is a welcome.

​@@CodeVenomSnakes galaxy tab is pretty popular for art rn.

Selection and verity is nice: but you labeled names specifically. implying negative connotation to both companies. When I’m reality, you don’t know what you are talking about. My iPad Air provides me the right professional tolls for my creative work. And Samsung offers lovely display for my movies. Why are you so negative? How about you say this grumpy pants. “I like having a verity of products to choose from”. See how I didn’t imply any particular company was bad.

Gotta keep Lyno out of the labs.

lol exactly

Yeah at 17:28 they tell us we should figure out outselves if its a good buy or not.

@@ayasolaris4971 It's not a review, just an unboxing and overview.

And all he did was compare every single thing to Apple like as if Apple invented a white and grey background.

That and all the other Apple exclusive apps...

100% why I bought my iPad Pro. Creative apps are unparalleled on Apple devices.

Pretty sure its just the apple logo. Any software on an ipad has a better alternative on windows. Surface tablets are the best, you get a touch screen and a real unrestricted operating system.

​​​@@MegaLokopo surface go 3 is $400 but it doesn't have great performance and a worse stylus than an apple pencil. Sure, there are many better software alternatives on windows, but those ain't gonna run well on the cheapest surface. Meanwhile ipad 9s are available at only $329 ($429 plus the pencil) and they run procreate and other productivity apps pretty well

@@ryanignites5923when it comes to the tablet space yeah, but on desktop apple is nothing anymore (except video editing) I’ve watched as the studio I work at went from apple, to windows for animation then modeling and rigging and lastly texturing. Weight painters still are ~50% apple but most of them want to move to faster Riggs. Professional artists don’t use apple anymore, I watch them be almost completely phased out over the last 5 years.

How recently are we talking? My last OnePlus was the 6, and that thing's speaker was garbage. And I knew it would be when I bought it, because every device they'd released prior to that also had crappy speakers - they even had a reputation for it amongst reviewers. I guess they've improved since then?

@@SirVer51 ​ I have and I am still using OnePlus 7T which has good speakers, that was one of my main reasons why I choose to get it, and it uses a separate second top stereo speaker instead of the earpiece, and I'm coming from HTC One as my previous phone. In my opinion, OnePlus 7T is the best (and reasonably priced) phone that OnePlus made just before Carl Pei left the company. The next phones they made were Overpriced and with bad buggy software. But now they are trying to make a comeback again.

​@@SirVer51 9 pro and 8 got amazing speakers 5,6 and 7 speakers are garbage

wasn’t it like mono till the 6 or so? also yes but apple mobile devices always have exceptional speakers like almost better than bluetooth speakers at some point

Sadly the screen is terrible. S galaxy tabs are still the ones to get if you want a premium android tablet. I'll take 120hz oled over 144hz bad LCD any day. And I've switched my phone from Samsung to oneplus cause of how terrible Samsung is.

@@Bralkor Wouldn't say it's terrible. But yes, its an LCD. OLED is almost always a better option.

OLED screens just turn into a point of failure overtime

@@BralkorGet a Lenovo Tab P11 Gen 2, 120HZ 1440p class OLED. I have one and its great

@@skiks1853 My old oneplus 3 (2016) has an oled, and its still usable, with only some burn in on the notification bar, which has been resolved in newer versions of android

Riley is great on camera. Maybe their best.

To each their own. I found his style really unfocused and distracting. Was looking for a smoother rundown of the device. Nothing against him though.

@ShortCircuit: We need an extra hairtouch counter when he strokes his hair back. Please?

@@GargantuanBreadfruit I totally get it. That's exactly what I really like about his style, and yes, it is different and might not be for you. I watch a lot of news oriented Late Night shows, and I love TechLinked for the similar approach on news delivery for example.

i found it so annoying how many times he compared it to ipad, he kept saying it, it got me frustrated xD

He was always my favorite NCIX presenter and I was a little bummed when they were shutting down, until I heard LTT was picking him up. Easily one of my favorites in the LTT cast.

i argue and present anthony

Riley is the bees knees. Great attention, easy going hot takes, great voice and looks. But... Dan is giving him competition in product reviews!

He has biases in his reviews. I'll take Anthony and Dan instead.

Charismatic = Good Looking.

wait, I meant his Apple copycat tablets.

I agree that its better for some content and worse for others. But how is 16:10 difficult to hold? Had no problems when I tested out the tab s8

​@Yesterday's Tech Yeah I have a Tab S8+ and have had no issues with it. Not sure how aspect ratio has any effect on how hard it is to hold 🤔

@@yesterdaystech86 depends on your hand size I guess

@@peterparker-zy9oe I have small hands but holding 11 inch tablet is the same be it 16:10 or 4:3 I dont feel difference between my ipad and tab s8

@@jbc17c The "hard to hold" comment was addressing the large moment that you create with a longer device when you hold it in portrait. The taller the device, the more "torque" you put on the hand that is holding it since there is weight that extends further away from the. Makes it more unwieldily compared to a device that is more square.

Had the same thought, were really just rebranding old tech now.

It is. They're "rebranding" it because storage this days is much faster then hdd back in the day. Also they say that it comes from storage, so. Ho harm no foul. And it doesn't wear out storage to any noticeable level.

it always will be

I mean, no shit, everyone would rather just have more RAM, but you get what you pay for. Given how long it took for (OEM) PCs and Laptops to go from 8GB RAM standard to 16GB, it really is too much to expect 16GB RAM in a tablet at this price.

I remember the first time I saw the 12" inch iPad. I thought it was ridiculously big, couldn't even function as a tablet. Saw it on two different occasions; when a friend first bought one and once on a long train ride (on that second occasion, I couldn't believe it was an actual Apple product, it was so big) When I failed to buy the Tab S8 Ultra (completely failed to get one at a price I could afford, even with deals) I went and bought a 12 inch iPad Pro. Been using that a year now, and the size no longer registers as oversized to me, the whole time still checking periodically for an S8 Ultra deal to come along. My friends still do a double take on seeing it though I imagine if I had the Ultra this whole time, 12 inches on the largest iPad would seem quite small Lol

yes that tablet is really big when I tried it on their store haha its like im holding a laptop

@@kenbee1957 i use the s8 plus tablet and it's just nice for me, but with the ultra, it looks super small with mine but I think i'm fine with that, easier to carry around when i'm on the go.

From 2014 to 2022, they would evolve in different directions. The iPad started multiplying Pad by i to reduce how many mathematical symbols are shown, while OnePlus adds Pad to One to get "plus" as a word that conveys positive emotion 😂

@@dead_account111 I have the regular one

Eh They can totally get away with it though

OnePlus: Here's 50 Lawyers and one Ex-Apple-Designer. Can you make an Ipad Clone? Yes? Thanks!

There’s literally tons of apps that are better on iPad. Plus you won’t have it crash that often, since Android tablets have been plagued with that since forever.

I have my Oneplus, using it for 2 days now, & have tried to play & use apps regularly, with no issues or problems at all, no crashes either If we compare it to some of those newer ipad models, the oneplus pad makes them looks like a joke with this price, i desperately needed a new tablet since my ipad pro 1st gen was beat up, then decided to go for the Oneplus, probably the best thing i've ever done this year, i'm never looking back after this or even buying Apple products again

Mine one plus phone uses swap but I don’t know about this one.

why not? People wants this thing to be somewhat comparable to the iPad. No products exists in a vacum

Agreed. Many things he saidwere rips and others were like valid comparisons that needed a reference

I think the apple counter was more a jab at oneplus blatantly copying the design language of apple, rather than an actual comparison.

I mean this looks like the most interesting Android tablet and that's because Apple has been the only one doing it right for years. But the UI is a bit too blatant. Would have liked for them to put a bit more of their own OnePlus spin on it. This is basically a 1:1 copy in a lot of ways lol.

@Binuk Vidana But that doesn't matter when it's clear they can't speak to the target audience. It's like going from Brandon to what's-his-face for cameras: it's kind of a joke and it's pretty obvious the difference of someone that knows their stuff versus one that's just good at talking.

Well. Considering how even the base 400€ ipad has a rather powerful chip and support for Apple Pencil it seems an uphill battle for anyone to realistically compete. Maybe it's too early to judge, but nothing here seems that interesting... Especially that (I'm assuming) self-designed processor. But we'll see once the Benchmarks drop

@@WalnutWarrior7 It's worth noting that the base iPad only supports the first gen pencil, which doesn't have wireless charging or magnetic attachment so it's more of an inconvenience to use, especially on the go. I think the processor is good enough on both of those tablets that it doesn't really matter for most users, and there are higher end tablets on both sides for professional use. Spec-wise the OnePlus tablet has a much better screen (higher refresh also means more responsive for drawing), double the memory, presumably better speakers and I'm assuming cheaper storage upgrades. If Apple kept the base iPad at the $330 price point, it would be more competitive and interesting. The current gen iPad seems kinda stupid compared to getting the iPad Air or saving money and getting a cheaper android tablet with similar enough specs.

It’s literally worse than an iPad. The damn thing has USB-C but is at 2.0 speeds, and some crappy cameras. And the thing only has two storage options with no card slot.

@@Thewaterspirit57 You basically just described the comparable iPad 10th gen. Even having those issues makes it on par with the iPad. This thing isn't competing with the iPad Pro and it's not a professional tablet. The cameras are good enough for video calls. The USB speeds are good enough for basic file transfers. The storage is enough for most people because they're not buying a tablet to take 8k pictures all day. No microSD kinda sucks but no iPad has ever had one so again, it's not really any worse than what you're comparing it to.

@@justitgstuff5284 Literallt any other android device has USB 3.0 speeds or above, and have the same specs as the thing. It’s worse than the iPad in general, cuz android on tablet still sucks. Besides the iPad 10 isn’t for professionals either, just something that has easily replicable parts.

Coz he is toxic isheep who hates anything that can beat crapple

Most of these Oneplus knockoff iPad videos are sponsored. Almost all of them pretend like the Galaxy Tab series does not exist.

this one is way too in the face tho. samsung tablets look similar when truned off but are way different than ipads when turned on

that's NOT the exact reason nobody else could break into the market in the first place lol companies rushed tablet production, they sucked and people thought android tablets in general just sucked google took forever to release honeycomb, and when they did damage had already been done, and to add salt to injury, honeycomb lacked in comparison to iOS at the time

@@liamsz that is a part of it, apple had the tablet market by the balls for so long that it took this long for something reasonably close to be made and now that it is its being crapped on as an ipad ripoff, it annoys me they dont celebrate the fact that apples podium spot is finally getting eyed off by other companies.

in the beginning apple was all AstroTurf ipad included...nothing but free advertising from celebs and all the sheep jumped on board gloating and being rude about how their half capable device was the best.....the rest of people couldnt be bothered paying for apple and everything android was a half effort cash grab.....android needs a decent tab thats not a status symbol so they can charge double. id happily burn apple and samsung to the ground if we could get anyone not a greedy scammer to stand up and make something decent....tech snobs are the worst part of the tech community... im sure someone is gonna complain that the tablet is too heavy.... theres only so many ways to make a rectangle or a pen...stop snobbing and do something that get manufacturers to compete for your dollar not ignore you for only extremely over priced things

@@zeroskill. It doesn't feel like a "win" when basically every aspect of the device is a carbon copy of apples design language. We can debate whether or not this is a healthy move for the industry, but it definitely feels like a lazy corporate move.

Ive got the s7 plus and Im still not convinced about its aspect ratio. I mostly use it to take notes and always have to use it in landscape mode. In portrait mode, the experience is not the best.

I was over Apple a few years ago so when my son needed a tablet, I bought him the top Samsung tablet. A year later I bought a Lenovo tablet to replace my old iPad pro. I was really impressed with them, especially the Lenovo given the price. Then the Samsung failed after 18 months and the Lenovo after three. I've bought a dozen ipads for our family since they first came out. Never had a problem. In fact, I only just stopped using the original iPad to play music through my stereo.

@@bugsygoo my Samsung Galaxy Tab3 from 2013 still works. Either you were unlucky or you broke it yourself.

@@iowawalker Given that I received a full refund, I guess you now know the answer.

It does, and it has most of the software counterparts. The only thing lacking is a good video editor for Android. There's just two groups of people who use tablets, one is professionals, other is casual users. First ones don't want to leave the comfort zone of Apple software, second ones don't care but are told everywhere to get an iPad.

@@iowawalker You're right, they are told everywhere to buy an ipad. Maybe the people who test these things are on to something. I think they are. I think the ipad is a better product. It's not necessarily the hardware but the software, integration and user experience is way better than Android. No, I'm not an Apple fan boy. But having gone back to Apple recently with my phone and tablet, I think it's a much better product. But it should be for the price they charge.

Same. I'm worried that as Labs becomes a bigger part of LTT they're going to get so hung up on comparing numbers that they completely miss glaring issues like this, if it happens to be some metric they're not specifically looking for

May I ask if there is anything annoying about the software on that phone, I'm worried as I here about it online. (Also what phone your coming from)

​@@northerner4995For few months this year I had a Pixel 7 Pro - which had many hardware issues with the screen flickering... until last week when I got the Oneplus 11. - Yes, I was also afraid that this phone will be far from the stock Android - just by seeing that it has its own android themed os - Oxygen 13 - which does have lots of useless preloaded apps for things Google is already offering - and that's relatively true with 9 Oneplus apps that I don't use and keep them hidden in a folder. The overall Software is not far from Android 13 as I experienced on the Pixel 7 Pro, but there are few thing different, like the settings menu which is slightly different organized - in a good way, very apple like. One thing is missing and I can find it annoying is that there's no option to hide the pattern on the lock screen when drawing it. Hope it can be fixed with the next update. Mostly I use the Fingerprint scanner which works pretty good so far... Other phones I considered with the Oneplus 11 were the ASUS ROG 6 and the Sony Xperia 5 IV. Which I didn't went with because Asus is way too expensive for what it offers and Sony is still running Android 11 - so OnePlus11 was the best performance for the $ spent... and I'm happy with it overall. This is my first OnePlus, in the past having Huawei P30, Pixel 1, Asus Padfone, etc. Probably you've noticed that I didn't mention Samsung. Well, because they have the same problem as Apple - an amazing piece of hardware that has changed the Android dramatically, with lots and lots of proprietary apps that I don't wanna use - because I'm already using them from Google. So, no thank you! Hope my opinion can help you decide! Don't rush and try to see them before you buy them! Good luck!

Yep, that's me. I get a feeling of cyberclaustrophobia when I use iOS. Samsung is similar but less.

Nintendo Switch notice.

It can do 4k 30 From the rear. The front is stuck at 720p.

@@markgutierez9922 Unless you're using a mirror, you're not using the cameras for screen recording. ;) (edit: should i say screen capture?)

yeah the screen recording does look like shit what happened whit that

@@fluffyfloof9267 I see I miss read the question. It looks like 720p@30fps with a bit rate sample of 2-4 mbs. By comparison the OP11 is capable of 2k@60fps . It could be a hardware limitations of the Dimensity 9000 or an oversight by the labs team.

I believe it does have stereo speakers

I might be bullshitting but I think flossy carter made a video on that

Did they pass the savings? Sounds like every single accessory regardless of quality costs the exact same

They did have some games installed on it that they were testing before this review, I think that's where most of the 60GB goes to.

Yeah I’m kinda sick of Labs getting to things before Short Circuit. This was supposed to be an unboxing/first impressions channel, and Labs having the device first takes away from that.

I got mine for 300 usd

I see what you are saying but even if they advertise "security update" what will stop them from just updating the patch notes and versions numbers to meke it look like they actually did something. My point is whether it's advertised or not you really wouldn't know as a regular user. I prefer to look at the track record of the company when it comes to updates. OP has been fairly consistent, even if you put aside the their infamous OOS/Color OS controversy or the dumpster fire that OOS12 was( and still is). They have kept their word so far on supporting their devices.

all i want to do is rom it anyway.....oem updates schmupdates....i want to have privacy and security not a permanent spyware backdoor that even apple has....most new tech is garbage because of that alone

​​@@kazzxtrismusYou are not important enough to justify NOT buying an otherwise good product because of ads and telemetry.

OnePlus CEO: Trust me, bro!

@@100c0c everyone is important enough.... enjoy losing the security of your fingerprints and data for pennies...go vax your kids for free ice cream and pay to add them to the dna database.....it wont feel stupid in 10 or 15 years...naaaawwwww im sure nobody would regret having that data in a windows 95 computer

Lol. Phones start at this amount now. 128 gb for a wannabe premium device is stupid

@@MartijnTVmy guess is that 90% of users never come anywhere near filling 128gb on their phone, the biggest storage consumption is probably video recordings and you likely will be doing none of that on your tablet. Most people use these devices to play a few mobile games and consume content - 128gb is plenty for that.

@@MartijnTV well 128gb is just the bare minimum these days. But like you said, wannabe premium. In markets within the US, if you want more, you'll have to spend more.

@@TheStatisticalPizza for most cases, 128gb is enough to have a functioning phone, check a few emails, and the ability to search the web. But appdata fills up quickly and with formatting and OS storage, that 128gb shrinks pretty quickly to about half. Even google stores a lot of data locally. As for the mobile games, it depends on the games. Some apps have a ton of extra content that needs to be downloaded. The 5-10GB cache data that the app store doesn't mention before downloading. All that new and old released content gets saved to your device and you don't notice till your phone says it's running low on storage.

Gacha games are trash, i only play like 1 or 2 which are good/generous, so 128GB is more than enough Barely i seen anyone uses more than 64gb either

Small tablets are such a baffling gap in the market. I loved my old ASUS-made Google Nexus 7, and ASUS released their own version for little while after the licensing deal ended. Once that died I switched to an 8" Huawei MediaPad which was the closest option I could find. Currently on my second one of those - 8.4" MediaPad M6 - and I can sort of recommend it I guess? The hardware is actually great, and the display is 2560x1600 in 16\:10 and *stunning* BUT their HarmonyOS flavour of Android is garbage with a bunch of unnecessary restrictions (e.g. can't disable certain features or use third-party launchers like Nova). Once you've manually installed Google services and switched off as much manufacturer crap as possible it's mostly pretty usable, but all I want is the exact same hardware running vanilla stock Android and nothing else. Why is that such a big ask?

Literally every iPad comes with a charger but pop off

@@jbnelson but the phones don’t and I hate that, and do iPads still come with a charger? I know my current one came with one but at the time the iPhone were in the last year of chargers i think, therefore I am not shure, but when they still come with a charger it is nice, then I am only salty about the removal of the headphone jack until they remove the charger in the next like two years or so

I felt I was exaggerating here, but then they got into saying that the standard looking menu was definitely apple, the rounded corners on the notification is apple, and... having a notes app is apple, even though... like, are you serious? Or is the whole thing a bit specifically at my expense? If so, that's mean, guys.

@@Trillykins It's not just you. They should have gotten Linus to do this.