You talked about Vaugh being dissonest without using the clip. It must have taken a lot of restraint.

The real fascism was the friends we made along the way.

Three types of fascism: Italian, German, and Not Liking a Movie I Liked.

“Except for the relatively small number of Fascist sympathizers, almost any English person would accept ‘bully’ as a synonym for ‘Fascist’. That is about as near to a definition as this much-abused word has come”. -George Orwell, 1944.

6:16 I'm sorry, are we not addressing the "have sex with children to combat fascism" line? Holy shit, complete mental flashbang

Most people who want to condemn others for being a nazi are the perfect embodiment of the "you keep using that word"-meme.

A word on the Night of the Long Knives. It's important to note that before he joined what was to become the nazi party, Hitler was heavily involved with and elected to a political position by the soldiers in his unit within the People's State of Bavaria and later the Munich Soviet Republic, two marxist and soviet breakaway states in Bavaria. He was present in the funeral march of Kurt Eisner, the president of the People's State, and later fought against the Freikorps when they cracked down on the Munich Soviet. Ernst Röhm and Gregor Strasser were two people who fought against the Munich Soviet who would later join the NSDAP. Both were later killed by Hitler. This isn't something mentioned in Mein Kampf because Hitler was doing his best to distance himself from the Marxists, to present his National Socialism as an independent movement.

It feels strange that someone like destiny has to put on a hand-holdy visual demonstration of what its like to talk about individual issues instead of laboring over what box to slam people in, and that this hits with such weight. This is literally shit no one should have to tell any thinking person. This was a childs guide to political conversations and theres a lot of people that needed to hear it, sadly.

When people falsely call you a fascist for disagreeing it comes to show how brain lit and little known about reality these people really are

With each passing day a certain phrase keeps getting louder in my head. "I just wanna grill, man."

I'm actually impressed by Destiny, he arrived at what I've been preaching for a while now, that we should judge each idea for its own merit and throw ideologies into the garbage bin of history where they belong.

the 10 hours of bad faith and looping that was the mister girl debates and the patience destiny showed makes me respect him alot, even if he has a girl's name.

I’ve gotten to the point where I almost want to abandon all political labels. I believe what I believe, and everyone who disagrees with me can leave me alone or suffer the consequences.

3:35 so in summary he wants to speak on individual issues and philosophies, not the label of things. And he knows the only reason people want to mess with labels is because they can just blanket condemn and dehumanize those with that label. Ironically, much like Nazis.

Fascism (noun) fas·​cism | \ ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm \ Definition of fascism: 1. The republican party holding a majority of US congress 2. The US having a republican president 3. Having wrong opinions

This is why people who actually learn what Fascism was, and is, get called "Fascists" by people like Vaush - to them, if you are studying something it is because you have an interest in it, and if you have an interest then you're leaning towards it, and if you're leaning towards it you embrace it. Which, to them, is how they adopted various flavors of Communism, so in their own heads it makes perfect sense. These are ALSO the people who largely consider ideas to be a form of cooties, which is why they're happy to ascribe beliefs to others purely by association and not demonstration.

I sometimes find it a bit funny how often people are taken aback when they realize something is paradoxical in nature, when us humans are massively paradoxical from the get go.

Fasci-nating. Thanks Dev

These people's threshold for calling someone a "fascist" is the same as when they call someone a 'fuck face'. It's because of how they feel, and not about whether it's the correct term to use.

Dev, I truly admire the work you put into this video. I've been thinking about fascism a lot lately myself, as the Nazi Volksgemeinschaft idea forms roughly half of my Master's thesis. Your conclusions on the classifications of fascism are quite similar to the ones I formed in my undergrad studies of Naziism.

My grandfather was a B17 tail-gunner in ww2 and he passed away this week. RIP Corporal E.T. Flood and bless you for your service.

Spain wasn't fascist. there were plenty of fascists in the nationalist coalition, but Franco was a very conventional military strong-man. More like Hafez Al Assad or Gaddafi than Mussolini. Calling everyone a fascist completely tainted the historiography of the Spanish Civil War

Hardcore leftists and SJWs want to embue language and psychology with so much ego. We should be doing the opposite. Get to the place where we can HUMANIZE all individuals regardless of how much their ideology could alienate us. I am a survivor of social justice abuse and I still actively notice the humanity of SJWs and their individual differences between each other. I still aim to connect with the human being, not the ideology. Destiny is reacting to egoic language and responding with egoless desires. What he shares here shows he has no resistance to agreeing with and connecting with a person who otherwise holds abhorrent or disturbing views. We start by empathizing in easy ways with the easiest people (different for all of us), and work our way towards empathizing more radically and outside of our usual paradigm. We stretch our ability to imagine and empathize and our circle of perception expands. Becoming ideologically possessed is egoic, and you will narrow your field of view until nothing is tolerable. Egoic worldviews make The Overton Window smaller, while the path of awakening and liberation expands the Overton Window.

What an unbelievably interesting video. I have listened to a lot of stuff on this but they were always very granular. I like how you managed to talk about everything in a condensed way in a single video! Amazing stuff Dev~

Still no trucker vid.

I'm so glad that people like you or the historian channel TIK (massively underrated) actually go through history and look at the actual sources to define what these ideologies meant. Shame that you are still overshadowed by the Twitter screechers. Also, that Umberto Eco diss at the end, beautiful. Coming from an Italian.

If a Christian theocrat, a corpo-monarchist, and a communist can all be described by a single term, that term can't refer to a political philosophy. Your definition of post-fascism sounds more like the 14 points than anything, like you're describing an aesthetic or, more charitably, mere political machiavellianism rather than a discrete ideology.

“But ANTIFA means Anti- FASCISM! I win.” - Lè Twitter creatura 🎩 🐍 no step on Snek! 🇺🇸🇭🇰

6:17 this. This right here is what would make me unironically support fascism. At least a fascist won't rape my child.

Tik History has the best videos detailing Fascist and especially Nazi ideology.

You really need to rethink you’re “Post Fascist” definition Dev, cause it’s so vague that you’re literally doing what you’re calling people out for, Fascism is a very specific political ideology and if post fascism doesn’t seek to implement a fascist state then it’s not fascism.

Really great editing in this one! And I think you did an awesome job categorizing. I feel like I learned a lot about what made fascism from Italy and Germany so different

I despise the idea of hurting and k*lling other human beings, but I think that the potential of violence from the general populace (against the government) seems almost essential to keep the government working for and with the people. It's confusing, because I hate the effects of violence, and hate seeing people get hurt, but I also despise that the government wields so much power over all of us. We're neutered. It seems we can't do anything, because we're just paralyzed by the way the "system" is built. NSA guy who's reading this: I'm not encouraging violence or revolution. Also no, I will not go on a date with you. Stop looking through my laptop's Webcam.

three forms of fascism 1- me 2- me 3- me

My man made a 30 minute video in order to call Vaush a fascist. 10/10

As entertaining as the dunking on Twitter videos are, these deep dive videos on political thought and ideology are what I come back to repeatedly. I like to send them to people I talk to irl to further explain my points or if we seem to be operating on different definitions of words (often fascism lol). Please keep up the good work Dev!

Hey Dev, I've been watching your vids for about 4 monthes pretty frequently and firstly I just wanna praise you for the quality. You always manage to break down ideas and concepts into easy to understand chunks. It's makes your content so easy to understand. I'm writing this because I practised some of what you preach. I'm in my last year of High School and in New Zealands education system, it's common for students to do kapa haka or other Maori/Pacific cultural activities. Just today I decided not to engage in a compulsory dance thing, and I can pulled outside by a staff member. The first 5 seconds of the conversation roughly went like this; "What's going on?" "Miss, I just don't want to do this" "Anon, what you're going is racist and-" I interrupted her and practically exploded. She tried to label me as a racist to force me to comply. She tried to shame me into doing what she wants me to do for 'cultural awareness'. I stood my ground and refused, because I know she wants me to do this because she has an agenda. She did not ask me why I didn't want to do it, she immediately labeled me and when I rightfully got upset and argumentative she walked away and called me 'offensive' (yea really I know). I never thought I'd experience this kind of blatant Twitter-retardation in real life. She showed no respect for my free choice, she showed no respect for my thoughts on the matter, she simply labeled me and said that this school might not be for me. I just felt like sharing this. It's only about 6 hours later and I'm sorta laughing about it now, but its uncomfortable to think that this woman tried to force me to comply with a label all because she has an agenda or is too stupid to litsen to herself. Anyway can't wait to watch the video! P.S. When I spoke to some Maori or Pacific kids at the school, they agreed with me. Of course the white woman in a cushy job is concerned about cultural awareness and tries to force kids (especially white ones) to engage or she'll label them racists. I feel like if I was Maori or Pacific, she'd leave me alone, but because I'm white, she thinks I'm evil and bigoted because my ancestors did things that I dont support :/

I like that Destiny made a Japanese flag when talking about moral condemnation. 😂

It's worth noting the reason why those similarities and parallels keep coming up between (actual) fascist regimes and socialist/communist ones. Namely, both are fundamentally expressions of the same root concept of collectivism. Collectivism is the surrender of individual rights to the collective and the concentration of power in a governing body, regardless of the form that body takes or who actually wields the power. As an ideology with concentration of power at its core, collectivism naturally presents the perfect environment for abuse of power. This is why "fascism vs socialism" has historically been a pretty meaningless distinction between two evils. Collectivism versus individualism (ie the reservation of rights to the individual and the decentralization of power) is, in my opinion, the primary political conflict today as well as the defining conflict in the arc of western civilization over the past few thousand years. Most political disagreements can best be understood through the lens collectivism vs individualism: the right to bear arms and self-defense, government overspending, capitalism vs government intervention, and the right to bodily autonomy are all pretty obvious examples, but the corporate capture strategy (subsequently turned to deplatforming, debanking, and depersoning) we are currently seeing is equally collectivist in that power is concentrated in a governing body, then used to destroy individual rights. That power is concentrated in non-governmental entities and is somewhat more fragmented than the monolithic examples from history are just details of the new flavor of collectivism. The demands are still the same as with all collectivists: surrender your rights for the collective good, and don't question our pronouncements of what the good is.

“Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster." -Nietzsche Spend all your days fighting authoritarian ideas but fail to see that you've just become a different kind of authoritarian.

Why dont you look at what the "fascist" countries did, rather than what people say. Thats like trying to measure the success of the soviet union through a stalin speech rather than just looking at the state of the country he was running.

Dev's vids on this stuff has got to be the best, most digestible of anything like it. Thank you sir! o7

I despise Nick Fuentes, but I respect Destiny for not backing down due to outrage and continuing to debate with people he also vehemently disagrees with in a civil manner.

The editing on this one was TRULY fantastic. The musical breaks made for a truly top tier transition that allowed you to digest the previous point for a brief moment while also propping up the next.

Fuentes' beliefs are identical to people in 19th century America. Calling him a fascist is dumb.

Never before have I watched a youtube video so high quality I felt the need to pay for it

A LOT of work went into this, clearly. Appreciated! The quality absolutely shows! Thank you.

Why would the so called "post fascists" have fascist in the name at all? Who decided that? I don't agree with it at all

Good vid Dev! Glad to finally get the definition of facist/nazi squared away without me having to do any of that boring reading stuff myself.

Fascism is (in Italy at least) non-rascist Nationalistic form of Syndicalism. It was an extension of National Syndicalism and fascism literally means Trade Unionism. Nazism is racialised Nationalistic Socialism, it’s funamdental basis is race. Also the Nazis wouldn’t have considered themsleves fascists or “Neo fascists” they were National Socialists, apart of the Third Position but different from Fascism. National Socialism was a real type of Socialism based on Race, and that Socialist utopia would have come about after he won the war against the east -id recommend watching Tik history for a better view of these ideologies

You missed one of best books on fascism. Paul Gottfried's Fascism: Career of a Concept. The mid-century movements can't be fully understood outside of the historical context. Mussolini came to power by stopping to biennio rosso, a violent communist uprising that brought WW1 combat to the streets of Italy. Hitler likewise rose on the back drop of the Bavarian uprising and Germans in Ukraine writing back to family about Bolsheviks starving them to death. Fascism was a direct reaction to the horrors of communism, which is why Von Mises said that fascism saved Europe. The left and right Hegelians met at Stalingrad to settle their differences once and for all.

the post fascism seems like youre just describing what you dont like.

Always nice to see you put out these more well researched and thought out videos :) I know it takes alot more work, but its apreciated.

Way more in depth and clear than any course I ever took on the subject, thank you Dev! I'm never gonna read through that stack (I leafed thru Mein Kampf in my teens and you're right, Hitler was a terrible writer), but I salute you for taking one for the team in order to make this video. Great vid, and I hope you have a good nap! ^^

Destiny nailed it so perfect in the beginning part with the diagram. All my left friends brains melted getting stuck in that dynamic

Thank you for being this patient to read those and make this. Loved this video.

Damn it Dev, you're making me like Destiny a little bit more each day. The guy's starting to sound absolutely reasonable.

Only critique I have is the post fascism definition sounds as vague as Socialists like Vowsh would like it to be, especially contrasting with way better defined Classical And Neo Fascism. Although in my opinion, all political labels are dumb because all of them are vague to an extent and essentially create artificial tribalism. There are as many definitions of Socialism/Fascism/Libertarianism as there are people on this planet. After all, a good example of this is Aristotle's definition of freedom which is different to what a Libertarian would or would not believe. So I believe if we do live in a good timeline we will eventually outgrow the want to use political labels and discuss direct policies... Which, sorry to say Dev, but are technically mostly "Libertarian" because they're the closest political camp to being right, the freer the economy the more prosperous most nations are stats say

This was a pretty cool video. Too short to be really able to completely understand everything about these ideologies, but that is kinda to be expected. Still, I did learn a couple of things from this video. Not only was the research very good, but the editing as well. Nice job Dev.

You made a video a while back about how you do your research and another about why you won't hate your viewers/fans and neither really answered by own personal reason why I watch you and I think this video helped me figure it out while I may be a passive watcher in that I only really view your essay styled videos I think stems from my own distain for modern teaching practices and a neutral voice in a sea of left and right talk of the "adult world", long story short I didn't feel like I was learning anything in college I couldn't online so i stopped and have felt rather listless on whether I should have just finished my program anyways, but after finding channels like yours and even Aba and Preach I don't regret that choice anymore simply because for the first time in a long time since I was in middle school I feel like I'm actually learning something listening to someone else ramble on for close to half an hour without feeling like I'd rather be anywhere else i think there is a certain amount of realness that comes from knowing you don't actually have any authority over me, you aren't an older sibling nor teacher just some guy and yet I feel no shame in admitting that you are probably smarter than me, teachers are actually smarter yet the distance between a teacher and student I think is where most kids try to find something to humanize their teachers to break that barrier like finding out your Gym teacher plays video games too or that your english teacher went on a tinder date the night before but beyond all of that you aren't preaching to me info I don't care about, if you title a video the problem with black lives matter I know there's gonna be a lot info on the topic, I'm not being catfished, I'm willingly wanting to know what you think on the subject matter likewise I've learn a tone about politics, philosophy and Law which I otherwise wouldn't care to research myself and yet here I am each upload ready and listening

Post fascism perfectly describes the modern far left

Great video. I feel that the reason why Fascist ideology is often misrepresented by the far left, is because they don't want to own up to the similiarities between Fascist ideology and Far Left ideology.

I remember you saying you were going to make this video in one of your older ones, I have been looking forward to it ever since. Glad to finally be able to watch it 😎

I hope the other videos in the pipe come out as great as this one. Good job, Dev 👍

These political theory videos are always my favourite from you. Keep it up dev! Plus, the editing and script is on point, definitely one of your best (maybe even outright best) this year.

I don't know in what reality or alternate timeline this is, but you actually convinced me that Vaush is a Fascist. I think I'm having a panic attack.

Speaking of how nazi has been used so much that it's lost all meaning immediately made me think of the N-word in black communities.

For a split second, when you were describing post fascism, I thought "maybe that's what I am." But then you got past the "they want to break away and create their own communities" and I immediately mentally slapped myself. Thanks for going over these ideologies, Dev! Very interesting listen.

The way you edited the video with the fade to black and the Nazi marches are cinematic 👌very cool

It doesn't matter, because those calling others "fascist" do so as a shorthand way of vilifying them; the don't care what the actual definition is...

This sort of thoughtful content is why I keep coming back. Thanks Dev

Good work. The quality is always worth the prep for a vid like this

This is top tier SFO content, a bunch of books i'll probably never read and insightful understanding and connections/comparisons i could probably never make. Since your political trichotomy video, this stuff both slots in in some places and has me reconsidering my understanding of differing ideologies in others. Finding it hard to wrap my head around post-fascists but that's good. Thanks man.

I'm sorry Dev, could you explain why you consider Franco a fscist? My understanding is that it is a revolutionary ideology and that Franco was antirevolutionary.

Thanks for doing all the reading! I’ll take your word for it.

this was very well made, beautiful production value. thank you

You had me until the final construction of the post-f-word. You seem go gloss over large numbers of groups and put them together: mencius moldbug, Nick, Vuash etc. For worse you have again (like the previous time I noted it) ignored the problems of the current order in favor of normative thinking. TL;DR you got 2/3rds of this video right Extended note: in your opinion is Alexander D*gan a post-f-word? your definition seems disconnected

I like this kind of video. You should do them more often. Could be away of taking a break from the usual "left vs right" discourse to just explore individual political ideologies/systems like this. I vote technocracy next! Rarely even talked about.

The issue I find with the third definition is that it seems too broad. Like, is monarchism in the modern world post-fascist because it's a conception of the state that is not originating from the democratic will of the people? Is being socially conservative ("Christian nationalist") and not just a member of a "conservative" party really post-fascist? To me it sounds like you would say that the second Sorel put pen to paper every political system prior to the French revolution became post-fascist

Thanks for this deep dive into words that are nowadays used without any meaning. We must never forget that words have meanings and meanings are important.

Love the editing on this video. Kinda reminds of Kraut. Please tell me this visual style could come back in a future video.

That thumbnail.... One of these things is not like the other One of these things just doesn't belong

I was actually starting to formulate this a few days ago, thanks for giving it a good backing of sources! 🙏

Awesome Video! I love the ones where you explain complex topics like these

Man, this one was a great video, even I who studied a lot of 20th century ideologies for fun didn't know even a fifth of what you said, great video, will recommend It for my friends

I don’t agree that post fascists think the enlightenment eliminated spirituality or something they aren’t “making up mythology out of thin air” they are usually quite spiritual and seek to return to a pre enlightenment view of spirituality

Great video. I know it's a lot of work but I really like these ones where you really get into the weeds on theory. Thanks!

I actually have been interested in doing more reading in general, including about politics specifically. Could we get a full book list to avoid having to skim through the video?

The Culture War and it’s consequences has been a disaster for the internet.

Love the video my dude! Keep up the good work!

Had to read some of those books for studies myself and you did a pretty solid job breaking down the concepts here. I'm gonna check out more of your stuff, but you seem sub worthy.

“They all lie so we don’t listen to them.” Then you’re not an expert on fascism.

so post-fascism is literally "My tribe, My ideas, My things: Good and Based. Your tribe, Your ideas, Your things: Bad and Cringe"?

The extreme politics of the second world war were united by the myth of progress. The absolute power they leveled at their society was justified in their view that the whole universe is like technology, constantly needing to be replaced and upgraded. This new wave of extreme politics seems to be based in the myth of subjectivity. I find that myth a very disturbing one, but it captures the left right and middle; including Dev.

Really god vid Dev. Excellent research. Any chance you could give a list of the books you used?

Fantastically constructed video Dev, honestly excellent work. When are you going to do a guest section on Lotus Eaters already?

Vaush the art of speaking without saying much.

Hey Dev, regardless of anything (good video though!), I have a deep admiration for your disciplined approach towards just reading books honestly. It's a habit I'd like to get better at, which is kind of a sad thing to say as a former uni student. I've been leafing through a Russian economy/history book for a few months now, still not done. And then you got your stack of books there you presented. Just, good job man. Bravo.

Great video, very well researched. Thanks for making it!

This is certainly one of your best videos Dev, where you go in depth into a specific topic and break it down from a neutral outsiders standpoint