Awesome stuff buddy and Semper Fi. I was a 0341 Marine Infantry Mortarman myself

Though limited I believe the scattergun has a place even in modern combat.

Yes u are correct. I have a coach gun , winchester no 4 buck, 54 angry hornets in a couple of secs, must hit something.@@Kennerd007

Was the enemy typically on meth or opiates, or both at the same time?

AMEN

I agree, always get a lot of practice in for any weapon your using

That’s cool.

Very good! There’s many of those non-tactical shotguns out there that strike the same blow and are every bit as effective.

The simplicity, but I kind of like a double barrel instead of just a single barrel I like to have that extra barrel that that second shot

My twin brother does that. My shotgun system isn’t as refined as his. I’m more of a rifle guy admittedly

We mention that, in a lot of places a shotgun is the best you can get. Train with what you have

Greetings from Canadastan, love your channel. @@thelasthuntsmanoutdoors

@@highbrass7777 I appreciate it, thank you

We pretty much explain that in detail through the video

Facts that can't be emphasized enough@@thelasthuntsmanoutdoors

For sure! Shotguns are devastating! Thanks for watching buddy!

@kevinhart46 we cover and talk about rifles. Generally I’m going with a Rifle. Shotguns just has a role and that’s what we explain on this video

All the gun you need to kill anything in North America. 12 Gauge ammo is heavy if you have to move from one location to another frequently on foot. Easier to carry 500 plus 22LR rounds if you have a Ruger 10/22 carbine for small game hunting and survival.

@@robertonavarro7713 not gonna argue that but the fantasy bugout thing isn’t what we’re discussing. This would be a more community defensive/offensive weapon

@@thelasthuntsmanoutdoors OK

Thank you

God bless, thank you

the hell you can't. It wont pierce soft armor and buckshot wont pierce ONE sidewall of a tire, windshield or car door beyond 10m and wont do so at 5m if the angle of the shot is much less than 90 degrees. The shotshells are heavy, bulky, fragile, expensive, awkward to carry , slow to reload. TRY getting 7 hits per second with a pump 12 and buck shot like Micelek can do with an AR, and the autorifle can be SILENCED, with subsonic ammo. You cant take down conceal the shotgun, nor use it effectively with one arm. Given a riot barrel and normal 00 buck, there's head and shoulder sized holes in the pattern at a mere 30m, so you can be centered on a cover-user and never touch him, Ditto if he's head on prone to you and wearing a helmet. NOBODY is much good with $1+ per shot 12 ga slugs. If you were inclined to spend that much money, youd have a silenced AR with a 22 unit, saving you $1 per shot. You have no intention of using slugs swiftly, I know that cause if you were, youd use the rifle instead. Your blasts will call in every enemy within a mile radius and tha'ts likely to be dozens of them. Anyone can tell the difference between a shotgun blast and a rifle's crack. It says "I'm right here and I"m stupid/easy pickings"

I’ve found some people makes that works good too

Agreed. We prefaced this as a LARP/SHTF scenario and I think we did mention birdshot for drones, like a heavier load

Haha damn straight

The 1301 is a nice shotgun

I’ve been eying that one for a hot minute

It's one of a handful of auto shotguns I would go with

I didn't like the stock fit and recoil, I could outrun the trigger by the third string of fire. Recoil is subjective but speed isn't. Everything else felt good and the tiger stripe was excellent, I wanted to like it, I think the stock and trigger hold them back. Lots of aftermarket stocks but what triggers get that reset to keep up with the action?

@@nobodyspecial1852 yeah, I’d have to try one personally before I can voice an opinion

It’s a decent shotgun.

Yüs

Thank you. His profile is Kennerd007 in the comments. He can answer shotgun stuff better than I can

Yep. gG&G has some good stuff for the 870 or 500. It’s what I use for the sling mount and light mount. Adhesive Velcro for the esstac Velcro cards. And hogue short LOP stock. Most shotgun stocks are way too long

Thank you buddy! Glad you enjoyed it

Thank you

That’s a solid lineup of guns and covers most of your bases, I’d probably add a good 9mm to carry/conceal

Yes. Good point. What's your favorite 9mm pistol?

@@21_Cabbage_hard to beat a Glock 19 or Glock 26. If anything just the commonality of parts and mags

@@21_Cabbage_ I personally like a Glock 19 or Glock 26. A cheaper alternative is the PSA Dagger

I like hks although they’re expensive. I also like the Cz 75. Very reliable.

Have you seen the twister slugs? That's some serious anti personnel medicine you can cast yourself.

@@Kinetic.44 I have a svarog botfly that does the same thing. I haven't killed anything with em yet but they're very accurate and I'm waiting for that big sumbich bear to come a bothering this year again.

No body likes hornets anyways

I get it buddy. A shotgun and maybe even consider a Mossberg mvp or Ruger American ranch too

I was at this point to with a SHTF set up in a 10 round mag state, look up Cross industries cross mags, they fit all 30 round mag holders and pouches and give you the benefit of having fast reloads

It’s a cool concept

Hey thank you. Idk my thoughts one the barrel tubes for multiple calibers. Could be useful for sure if your limited to one or few guns

Thank you

I agree. Thank you

Double trouble lol

Some of those are kind of cool

The 590 is my personal favorite. I don’t use the mini shells, I think they cost too much for what they are, that said it’s a cool concept

The adapter should hold up but what if? I don't trust them either, and the "S" series *should be* better for ALL shells aside from the specific mini shell need. I really just need to get a 20 guage shockwave, no gimmicks there, all loads are reduced loads relatively.

@@nobodyspecial1852 I want to get a shockwave. I think they would be fun. Or the Tac 14.

@@thelasthuntsmanoutdoors TAC-14: AFAIK they were reliable but not that many in circulation before Remington folded. Being able to one hand before reloads is huge, makes a (soft/3A) shield workable (racking a pump off a shield isn't great, you're set-up for jams and you need a bumper customized to grab with your slide assembly) without a buddy, actually usable for home defense. How does the recoil feel one handing a TAC-14 though? A fullsize 590A1 with a raptor grip isn't bad, actual shockwaves are 2-3 pounds lighter, a tac is about the same but the gas system timing is a wildcard.... you know what you need to do.

That’s cool

@@thelasthuntsmanoutdoors Thank you for responding.

Just as guud huh😂😂

@@Darthdoodoo Yep, just as good. Thank you for responding.

It's no where near as good as a benelli or beretta

I’ve done it before but it’s not ideal and can be hard on your barrel.

I imagine you could slightly anneal your (removable) choke and run a couple slugs through it, heat/quench/temper (easy but not simple), run a mandrel through it from the rear a couple times, fire five and retemper. Custom slug choke completed.... if you didn't mess up.

​@@thelasthuntsmanoutdoorsthin barrels spook me with chokes in general. They're not even reliable with integral choke taper, any easily acquired dents just stack and turn a 30 yard gun into a 15.

@@nobodyspecial1852 I agree, chokes should be mainly for hunting

Thank you for the information of an 870 Wingmaster with a modified barrel, using foster slugs at 50 yards

Glad you like it, thank you!!

We didn’t say it wasn’t. Just shit performance

Also you want to be that close to an assailant

I agree, thank you for watching buddy

It is, I used one before. We did say a few we may not have mentioned

Thanks for watching. I never heard of it

​@thelasthuntsmanoutdoors it's basically a poor man's Benelli. Doesn't have all the bells and Whistles.

I’m pretty sure we mention it

@@thelasthuntsmanoutdoors actually the 940 was mentioned 😉😁

Thank you!! I tried putting some work into this.

@@thelasthuntsmanoutdoors I can tell, lol Joe Biden special had me dead

I recommend them. If you can get the 500/590 get it just bc you can change out the furniture easier and I prefer the safety on it. But there’s no qualms to a maverick 88. They’re still built good and reliable. Just recommended a guy to get a maverick 88 and PSA Dagger. He got both for $500. Nice setup to get you in

Hey thank you. I’m glad you enjoyed it

My twin brother hardly has used a double barrel before. Thanks for watching

Yea I was so used to indexing the gun upwards for reloading. Can tell I don’t have or use a double barrel much

Exactly, you should know how your shotgun patterns for sure

Haha thank you

We mentioned the Mossberg 940/930 in our video as a decent semi auto

Haha thank you

Thank you buddy

Glad it was helpful!

haha thank you, glad you enjoyed the video

Hey thank you

I don’t think we ever said birdshot doesn’t have a purpose. We said they are silly for self defense when your life depends on it.

Do that the best you can

Thanks for the sub!

Awesome !!

The nova is a awesome shotgun

You can, idk if your specifically talking about magazine fed shotguns too like a Saiga or several other models but we should have addressed it. Magazine based shotguns can have some reliability issues based on ammo and carrying the mags can be hectic when they are 3X larger than an AR mag, still a good potential though.

Extended mags have a piece on the inside that needs grinded down for the longer spring.Slugs are a game changer .I wouldn't use bird shot to defend my home but I do like to know what no.2 or no.3 steel or other non toxic loads can do.Good video guys. Hope you have updates to it.

I agree it’s good stuff

Haha yep

Nothing wrong with that

Thank you, glad you enjoy

Thank you I’m glad you enjoyed it

There is a lot of variables and circumstances there. And.

@@thelasthuntsmanoutdoors yea exactly that is the problem

I've shot shells that fell into a creek you'll be fine

Missouri, sorry your behind enemy lines

@@thelasthuntsmanoutdoors We make do, and we don't comply.

​​@@Regularcitizen1 That's WHY U Live In A DEMO-RATIC Ran State...

What kind of question is that

I think my brother mentioned that or he did and I edited it out because it was like a 5-10 min segment

Yea running rifle is debatable if you need a pistol. Shotgun is mandatory to run a pistol. In this video I was rocking out the Glock 17L

Yea classic Kenny for sure

Double barrels were outdated in 1897. Damn I want a trench shotgun

The 1100 isn’t a bad shotgun at all. Have you tried buckshot out at range? Me and my twin bro has get decent hits out to nearly 100 yards with the right load. Regardless thanks for watching

@@thelasthuntsmanoutdoors No I have'nt done that much testing at distance but I've got two 1100's rigged with the Carlson's 10 + 1 rds extension tube and my 870 rigged with a Carlson's 7 + 1 extension tube and all I can say is WOW for their close quarters action and the good part about it I could hunt with them also if I had too and some people would say them guns are too heavy for it don't bother me for I like the xtra weight on those old shotguns and I love the reliability is what counts !!

It is

Haha, just a random google apocalypse image

@@thelasthuntsmanoutdoors make wear that leather piecemeal armor I made, next time? Soak it the day prior, it's stiff. Wear blue underneath, the the K98 over your back, you know the vibe.

@@nobodyspecial1852 haha! That would be a funny larp

I’m not sure what your talking about lol. Might have to look it up

Gotta do all you can

Best bet is to get as good as ya can with what you got. Hell if all you got is a bow, pair it with a good blade and prolly better armed than a lot of people. Physically and mentally fitness will be key

For sure

We have a whole segment where we talk about semi autos

Oh sorry about that. Yeah, I came across your vid real quick and just had to comment, but, Awesome vid, Awesome work. Keep up the good work.

Thank you 🇺🇸

My brother does. I don’t personally. I know they are supposed to really tighten your pattern up

@@thelasthuntsmanoutdoors they're a game changer for sure. I went with mag-na-port for my gun. Same service: Lengthened forcing cone and porting. I recommend it just for the reduction in recoil. That and push-pull, you can run the gun as fast as you can and actually make good hits. It's awesome.

It would win in coolness alone

It’s a cheap carrier I don’t use other than a quick shotgun rig. I think we mentioned the 930/940 but they are decent

I have the 930 and it is a field artillery piece! @@thelasthuntsmanoutdoors

Congrats

Thank you for your service!!

Not legally with civilian weaponry unless if they are small drones and in a larking scenario with say a red dawn

Probably best to stay incognito to them. Best with cover but some materials don’t pick up well with thermal either. But for small drones I would say (using Ukraine conflict as example) that a shotgun with a heavier shot birdload would take down a small drone.

Good load

You seen the #4 buck? It's scary how tight it patterns.

I have used # 4 buck. I have a concern with its under penetration. I had a coyote at about 15-20 yards and a federal 3 inch magnum #4 load. When I shot the load gravely wounded the coyote, (light animal) but I had to follow up with a 00 buck. I don’t trust #4 since then

@@thelasthuntsmanoutdoors you ever tried the TSS for predators?

@@tylerzmistowski5867 I’m not sure what you’re talking about. All that being said, I generally use rifles a lot more than I do shotguns

There is a lot of variables there. And it also depends on range. If it’s just one of those small little personal drones within range, then yes. If it’s some super high altitude, communist Chinese drone, then definitely not.

I would suggest for that like a heavier bird load like a #6 or even better #4. Just to give you a lil extra range and penetration on the plastic

Shotguns are used by military and police in urban settings all the time, the main thing is people constantly think of this line wolf one man army and in that scenario shotguns are extremely limited. But in conjunction with a squad of guys shotguns can be very useful. It’s all being part of a team

@@thelasthuntsmanoutdoors Yeah, well I don't plan on clearing buildings in an urban setting. I will hunker down in my suburban house or bug out to my farm. So, I'm not going to join some militia either. I have some family members that are planning together but we are not an offensive unit. Strictly self defense and gray man mindset.

@@rotadyma really that’s mostly me. I work with guys in my area. Here’s the thing I even say in the video I’m mostly a rifle guy. I will always have a rifle. This video is just for if your going shotgunner

Glad you can get a laugh

@@thelasthuntsmanoutdoors I still appreciate that you tried to hide it though lol

@@wesidk5662 hide what? I’m not seeing it

😂😂

Maybe so, but fat girls keep you warm too.