Should Artists Be Worried About AI ART ??!

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@FlorentFargesarts Жыл бұрын

Just a few points to clarify because I couldn't say everything in one video: I’m not defending or rejecting AI, I’m not siding with AI companies against artists. As I said in the video: “ it doesn’t work properly today, it’s even kind of disgusting, like AI images with remnants of signatures proving that they really steal pieces here and there and just make a weird, disturbing collage of stolen art.” I hope that the first copyright trials will allow us to put this technology under control and keep big tech companies accountable. However, I’m also a realist and I know that it will be a tough fight for artists and that the most likely outcome is that the courts will find that AI “art” is transformative enough to be considered fair use, (if you look at the first decision in the Warhol vs Goldsmith case about the Prince series, it was first considered transformative enough even though it’s clearly the same image, they’re still working on this case and we’ll see what the outcome will be. I’m clearly siding against Warhol in this case but it shows that what can be considered fair use is a very big grey area, very big). The process of stable diffusion also makes it very hard to say that an AI image is some sort of copy, because it’s not. Plus, you can be sure that if they’re found guilty, they’ll just have a few tweaks to do in the program to change how it works, so, in the long run, they’ll find a way to keep making AI images and scrape the web for data. Bottom line, we’ll have a lot of work to do to keep this under control (and btw, I think copyright isn’t even going to be the bigger issue, data overall is going to become a huge concern) but the fact that the technology will keep evolving is inevitable. Maybe Midjourney and Stability AI will be found guilty and will have to change how they operate but in a couple of years, a new company will emerge with a new tech and make the entire thing evolve again. That’s why I think that it will be settled and the copyright issues will be fixed within a decade or two, but the technology is not going anywhere, it’s just too strong. I’m not trying to defend it or reject it, there’s not point. I’m simply trying to share my analysis of the situation so far and how it might evolve. I’m trying to see the issue on the long run, using the parallels of what photography caused for painters two centuries ago.

@oversipelio983 Жыл бұрын

Honestly what saddens me deeply with the AI is that it is an insult to the very idea of art. If we go back to the root of the word "art" it meant something that needed skill or talent to be made and i do believe that is part of art is but i believe we all know that art takes emotion, even if we don't think about it when we are drawing, painting, sculpting, we put a little piece of us into every work we do. AI "Art" is just a set of numbers assembling a pretty picture, it does not take skill, talent nor emotion, is something devoid of life, something "undead". It is a mockery of true art.

@SchopenhauerVsCamus Жыл бұрын

it requires existing in the physical world, having a sense of self and of others and of the world. being a complex sentient being, in other words. not a narrow purpose generative program. AGI or sentient ASI might change that. unclear at this point.

@marikothecheetah9342 Жыл бұрын

Well, people who now "create" art with AI claim it has finally been democratised and everyone can be an artist. :D Of course, this is a ridiculous statement, but it happens. I think art as an expression will always be there, since it has prevailed to these times and even old things have been approved upon (thank you for the water soluble oils!:D), so art as such might very well stay. The only way art is going to be affected mostly, I assume, will be commercial art. It has already been heavily changed from the end of the 20th century (poster paints anyone?) and with a development of photoshop and alike art has been commercialised and industrialised.

@Death-777 Жыл бұрын

But a banana taped to a wall is art... Or a urinal with a signature. I'm sure both of those took skill. Not to mention all of modern art, not the most skillful craft. No talent to be seen in these few things that made us all question "what is art?". Maybe one day you'll all learn from history rather than repeat it.

@oversipelio983 Жыл бұрын

@@Death-777 honestly i despise modern "art", i think AI "art" is a consequence of it in one way or another. Both are mockeries of beauty and skill.

@marikothecheetah9342 Жыл бұрын

@@Death-777 modern art is a joke, to put it mildly. Thus I prefer old masters where the skill is crucial for the artwork.

@sylasblack3459 Жыл бұрын

I just want to point out something many of you may not know about photography. Albert Bierstadt used photographs for reference in his studio. He traveled the west taking pictures, sketching, and painting. By all accounts, according to recorded history, Bierstadt was the first to do this. He started in the late 1800's into the early 1900's. He also used a dual camera setup that allowed the viewer to don headgear to view pictures in as close to 3D as was possible at the time. As a lifelong artist myself, I didn't put down my brushes when I saw A.I. could do what it does. Nor did I stop writing, and for the same reason. What we allow to replace us, is up to us. Do we lay down our passion, and become sheep? A gear in a corporate machine? Or do we carry on as before, and let nothing stop us?... Once we leap off the mortal coil, it's out of our hands. Until then, I carry on, with nothing but my integrity if need be. Always and forever a fan of yours sir. Carry on.

@chaunceypierce8803 Жыл бұрын

It's not about being technophobic. The ethics behind it is the issue for me. Eventually it could be a tool that anyone can use but until there are ways to protect artists who do make an income doing their art, AI is not a good thing.

@frankstrawnation Жыл бұрын

You want to reissue the candle makers' petition, which is insane.

@FlorentFargesarts Жыл бұрын

I agree that the current situation is not great for artists at the moment but I'm pretty sure that it won't be a problem 10 or 20 years from now, it will have been resolved (not necessarily in a good way) and AI will still be there (with tons of other problems besides protecting artists but it's a different story)

@marikothecheetah9342 Жыл бұрын

"but until there are ways to protect artists who do make an income doing their art, AI is not a good thing." - nobody has ever guaranteed artist the stable job. I agree with copyright but beyond that - well, hello reality of the changing world. You do not have to BE a full time artist, you can be a half-time artist, why is it even an issue? :/ Most people do not get paid for what they love doing, artists do not have to do it either. Yes, sometimes your dream job needs to become a hobby, because the world owes you nothing. The saboteurs from the early 19th century still did not stop machines entering the mass production with their shoes, they had to either learn a new skill or become jobless. With so many articles, debates, warnings for people to be flexible to be versatile, it is just pretty annoying with artists whining they will be replaced. My learned occupation of translation is long mechanised and people do only simple editing of the text that they translate. Even Google translate can now handle complex grammar structures and quite accurately translate the whole texts, but the uproar is with the artists, who suddenly discovered the threat of being replaceable. Welcome to reality.

@lenajesse Жыл бұрын

@@marikothecheetah9342 "nobody has guaranteed artists the stable job"? Way to go missing a point about ethics. "the world owes you nothing"? Ahem. The world owes copyright holders what the law says is theirs. Even in a changing world, the laws and ethics still should matter. Just like thieves aren't entitled to take someone else's property without reprecussions, the "world" is not entitled to the the results of artists hard work...not for free. "You do not have to be a full time artist" That sounds like "you have no right to be a full time artist". Those of us who are trying to protect the rights of #HumanArtists to their own work and the ability to make any kind of income in the future (doing what they are good at), are not against technology. So talking about whining and saboteurs is out of line and only an attempt to deflect the blame at those who dare to call out tech bros, AI evangelists and non-artists (who normally don't care about art at all but are now going super giddy about AI this and that)...for being unethical out of spite or using the current unethical version of AI out of (willful) ignorance.

@marikothecheetah9342 Жыл бұрын

@@lenajesse before you jump in with your ahems and ehms, do read this: "I agree with copyright". ""You do not have to be a full time artist" That sounds like "you have no right to be a full time artist"." - no, it just means what I wrote, not what you read it as. Clearly, you don't even read properly what you are commenting, so whatever you wrote - not applicable to any of what I wrote.

@bqgin Жыл бұрын

Artists won't disappear but that doesn't mean the AI isn't a problem. You feel safe because your livelyhood doesn't depend on digital images. I'd also like to mention about 2% of the AI createdimages is almost identical to the "source material" so literal copying. Plus you can't say "no" to AI using your artwork in its data, if anyone posts any of your images online it WILL be collected and used.

@SchopenhauerVsCamus Жыл бұрын

maybe he’s not as worried about livelihood and physical survival as much as others are in various fields of work affected by AI. everyone’s situation is different on an individual basis. we’re all unique (and uniquely complex) in that way-in ways these AI narrow purpose image generators can never be. that being said, AGI and ASI will be interesting, to say the least.

@Hadoken. Жыл бұрын

@@SchopenhauerVsCamus So because he’s not worried and we’re all different means you mustn’t give a shit? If it were 1940 why care that Germans would be offing everyone under the sun on a whim? After all, everyone’s different. Why did a series of global protests over the death of a guy with a criminal background by a cop have to happen? After all, cops offing black people without reason is such a narrow scope of the populous that is can never affect most of it. See how stupid, egotistical, one sided and short sighted you argument is? The very reason visual artists are the financial joke of the creative business world is because every idiot and their mother is so damn happy they get paid peanuts to draw Ewoks and Big Tittied Manga characters instead of flipping burgers that they don’t care the rates, contracts, circumstances and hours are all getting worse while others are profiting off this work. And it goes much deeper. Amazon, Google, Facebook, they gather your data, which is your labor, your thoughts, your identity and privatize it to enrich their algorithms which enriches their stock value. But that’s your data, your identity. If your thoughts are your own, so is the result of them, ergo your labor, even during your time off work and online. Yet your free time, labor you put into these platforms and the internet in good faith are stolen from you, monetized and you get zero. And useful idiots after all that’s happened and been revealed are like “hey, everyone’s different, why should I care as long as I’m alright). It’s insane that people (mostly Americans), lost their shit for four years when half of them voted a gameshow host for president thinking he was some hitler reincarnation, yet the actual billionaires turning the world into a technofeudalist world is absolutely fine. But hey, you’re at least gonna be entertained by AGI etc right?

@SchopenhauerVsCamus Жыл бұрын

@@Hadoken. never said we should not care. we should. just because he isn’t worried about the loss of his livelihood doesn’t mean that no one else isn’t. many are indeed worried about job loss at the hands of AI and automation. many are worried about their survival. that was the point.

@marikothecheetah9342 Жыл бұрын

The legal issues of the matter are important and should be addressed, definitely. But that doesn't mean AI will fade away. The legal issues are solved with the music creating AI and yet the technology is alive and kicking. If anything, companies will feed their own copyrighted works (everything you do for company is automatically copyrighted by the company) and generate new ideas from this database. Imagine all the projects that were rejected but stored for later, or the beta projects. Sure, compared to all the images from the internet it is a tiny database but the technology is there and it will be improved upon. It's only a matter of time when companies will use and create their own images databases. The only thing that AI loses with (apart from the copyright issues, obviously) right now is the pics resolution, which is relatively small. But with a huge commercial potential it will be developed further.

@philiptownsend4026 Жыл бұрын

Exactly. If you don't want your work to be plagiarised, copied, adapted or even used as inspiration by others then you must create it by hand and lock it in a drawer showing it to nobody. Ever. Would there be any point to that? Not sure. But then you must recognise that the art you create yourself has been produced by your brain and motor skills and other features of your existence based upon what you have seen with your eyes and experienced in your life. AI is capable of doing exactly the same thing but on an industrial scale but it still needs human input to give prompts ideas and suggestions. Those AI pictures do not come from nothing. Humans are needed to provide the inspiration and to tweak or otherwise provide decisions about what to do with the output. It is just another tool. Nothing more. By the way, I do not defend or approve of AI pictures. They are just there. But on an emotional level I find the ones provided by Florent to illustrate his discussion to be sterile, ugly, fantasy/science fiction illustrations for mass consumption, they are not tangible objects of art. So if they are not art then they do not compete with artists. Artists have nothing to fear from this new technical development (made by humans incidentally, so it is a product of nature and evolution).

@jessquinn6106 Жыл бұрын

If there was a collective "pool" (site) where AI artists could contribute their own photos and art for other AI to use ONLY, then I would not have a problem with AI art. The fact that these systems are reaching out across the internet and grabbing images from anywhere and everywhere, that's where I have the problem. Also, AI art needs to be banned from being contributed in art shows, museums and contests. The artist did not make the art. It is not fair for 10 minute generated AI art made by a computer to be placed in the same display space where the other art took a REAL artist 10 days to complete with his own hands.

@elsevillaart Жыл бұрын

They should, not because of the competition, its about the spam, it takes days to create a piece then get lost in flooded on the feeds with no talent bad ai art, burried in ai art, too much exposition can create tired viewer eyes,, then people will stop caring.

@FlorentFargesarts Жыл бұрын

I agree with the spam, it's what I somehow call "image pollution" or saturation at the end of the video and I'm not sure what will be the result of it. People have already stopped caring if you look at the attention span diminishing, content being always shorter, I can't even imagine what it will be when AI starts mass producing content. My hope is that it will somehow bring people back to a "slow viewing" attitude, a new type of contemplation for a few, well chose man-made works. We'll see...

@brucetidwell7715 Жыл бұрын

I'm old enough to remember the invention of digital graphics programs. I actually took the very first course in "Computer Art," at the University of Georgia, using Mac-paint 1.0, in the mid 80s. We literally could not even imagine anything close to Photoshop today. Even so, the fear/assumption then was that everyone would give up paints and brushes and make their art on computers. In fact, much like photography, it has revolutionized advertising but barely touched art at all. The great challenge for a serious artist working digitally, is to find a creative justification that rises above "look at the special effects I can make Adobe Illustrator do," or conversely defend themselves against the suspicion that they create on a graphics tablet because they don't know how to paint. Currently, at least, AI art is even more branded than digital art. It excels at bizarre surrealist dream-scape images with a very telltale cold polished texture to them. Doubtless the production values will become more nuanced but AI doesn't feel and, not feeling, cannot create the ephemeral poetry of a subject caught at the perfect moment to present, not just a pleasing image, but an emotionally charged experience. That is setting aside the sheer awe that one feels when confronting the talent and technical skill that a human artist commands. That is something that even abstract painters still struggle against, attempting to justify their art (that "anybody could do") after a hundred years. I think it will be ten years or more before we know if AI art can actually establish itself as more than a flashy toy, or will people grow bored with it's signature surreality and lose interest the way they have largely lost interest in minimalism? Time will tell but I can easily see it being the equivalent of Art Nouveau which swept through the world of Western Art and design at the turn of the last century influencing everything from fine art to costume jewelry for fifteen years before it disappeared in a whiplash curl of opium smoke.

@SchopenhauerVsCamus Жыл бұрын

You raised such great points! Narrow AI programs can never replace or do what complex humans can with our sense of self, of others and of our relationship to the world, at large. AGI or ASI may challenge that but even that will be in its own non-human category. Personally, when I see what the artist that runs this channel creates, i’m in awe. That sense of awe is somehow absent when looking at AI generated output.

@marikothecheetah9342 Жыл бұрын

The great challenge for a serious artist working digitally, is to find a creative justification that rises above "look at the special effects I can make Adobe Illustrator do," or conversely defend themselves against the suspicion that they create on a graphics tablet because they don't know how to paint. - this. So much this. "Doubtless the production values will become more nuanced but AI doesn't feel and, not feeling, cannot create the ephemeral poetry of a subject caught at the perfect moment to present, not just a pleasing image, but an emotionally charged experience." - just because a human can draw or paint doesn't mean they can automatically evoke emotions. Also, in commercial art industry, where most digital artists work, the ephemeral poetry is not as important as the presentation of the topic. AI will probably replace a lot of jobs within the industry, since what is needed is technically well presented photo/picture or the mix of those that draw attention but not necessarily evoke emotions. Now, non-commercial art might not be as much affected by AI.

@SchopenhauerVsCamus Жыл бұрын

@@marikothecheetah9342 Humans by their very nature are social and emotional beings. Emotions are not features that you can simply exclude from any person, no matter how you frame it. The ability of a particular work of art to evoke emotions in others, on the other hand, depends on the subjectivity of the one/s experiencing that work of art and not entirely on the ability of the person creating the art. The same work could evoke a strong emotional response in one person while at the same time leaving another person completely unmoved.

@marikothecheetah9342 Жыл бұрын

@@SchopenhauerVsCamus Just because humans can feel emotions does not mean they can always convey them. Just because you learned a certain skill does not mean you can be a great teacher.

@SchopenhauerVsCamus Жыл бұрын

@@marikothecheetah9342 True. That being said, the conveying of emotions requires a dialogue and the efficacy of the communication is dependent on factors both within and outside of each individual engaged in the dialogue. It’s not a monologue. The same individual may not understand another’s communication in one moment but may do so at another time, after acquiring the right context. It’s a subjective and dynamic process that requires both parties to actively participate. It’s not a monologue. Great points

@trout6629 Жыл бұрын

I HATE AI art. Not because I am worried about it taking jobs from artists, cause lets be honest, the majority of us will probably not sell a single painting in our life, and AI is capable of producing better looking images than a lot of people trying to monetize their work. I hate it because it represents the current state of our world, a world that worships everything and values nothing, like the protagonist says in the movie 'La La Land'. AI Art is like cheap clothing from fast fashion brands that manufacture their clothes in sweatshops, as opposed to a beautiful handmade garment, made bespoke by a tailor. It's like a glass skyscraper or housing made by a developer, void of any real value. There is no craftsmanship behind it, no intention and dedication. Its like fast food as opposed to a hearty home made meal and traditional dishes. Its just empty. And you might that that will make people appreciate the real thing even more. But, do people even notice if your suit was made with care by a master tailor? Do they care that the house they're buying was well built? Do they care about the poison they eat with every bite of the clown's burger? Most people simply couldn't care less about the craftsmanship behind something, the passion, the beauty and the quality, and that's what's scary. Not the tool that makes those images but the reality of the world.

@FlorentFargesarts Жыл бұрын

Maybe the rise of mass produced AI images will bring people back toward more authentic man-made art. My opinion is that we'll become completely desensitized to screens and images in a decade or two and that maybe people will come back to a more contemplative attitude towards art and enjoy slow viewing. I hope we don't get desensitized to the point where we don't get to appreciate the real things anymore, I hope...

@trout6629 Жыл бұрын

@@FlorentFargesarts "Think ill, and you'll be right". But I really hope you're right. If the rise of AI images ultimately leads like you said back towards man made art I'll even be happy it exists. Until then. I guess all we can do is wait and see, and paint a lot lol. Keep up the good work, you're an inspiration

@deadhouse3889 Жыл бұрын

I said the other day that it's like fast food. It's taking the artist out of the art and that's like taking the chief out of the kitten. What you are left with is McDonald's.

@zornitzapetrova7339 Жыл бұрын

AI art si and looks like - CHEAP. Has no value. As said up- production for the masses.

@philiptownsend4026 Жыл бұрын

Woohoo Trout. You are a philosopher too. And I agree with you wholeheartedly.

@SingenDrake81 Жыл бұрын

As it so happens, I became VERY interested in AI image generation back in December and have been hooked ever since. In the last month, I have acquired a small treasure trove of oil painting supplies and am about to begin my first painting in over 25 years starting tomorrow ! Your channel has been an invaluable part of my journey of rapidly learning and I hope to put your lessons to good use. The irony then is that AI actually brought me to art, there's something very exciting about transforming digital art into something more classical, timeless and less fleeting than pixels alone. I cant wait to "re-imagine" digital as oils in an effort to somehow make the images hold even more value in the eye of the beholder and to be a vehicle for the AI to more truly express itself through brushwork.

@ironmaven1760 Жыл бұрын

good luck and I hope you produce great things! I myself used acrylic for years and just started painting in oil again after over...oh 20 yrs. It's challenging! But the process..the texture, the smells, the messiness lol.and the end result..no wonder it's what I consider "traditional" medium for painters.

@FlorentFargesarts Жыл бұрын

Thanks my friend, you're the prime example of the new breath of fresh air this technology can bring into the art world. All the best for your projects.

@tomhighsmith Жыл бұрын

After comparing it with photography, I thought, how strange that I don't have any pictures hanging on my wall, but only paintings. Actually I do have a photo (black & white) but it is covered with color powder, photographers did this for color photography. It's behind glass, otherwise you can wipe it off. A photo, no matter how beautiful they can be, always has less emotional value for me.

@ElinWinblad Жыл бұрын

I’m a painter but have the opposite reaction as photo are from real life and that has more connection to me

@johannw7933 Жыл бұрын

Artists will be fine, button mashers will probably not since their jobs are about efficiency in workflow than in creating beauty for its own sake. Authenticity is the currency of the future. This is an age of a Great Bifurcation, the analog and the digital. There will be some overlap but the world is being bifurcated into those who live digitally and those who live the more traditional analog world.

@SchopenhauerVsCamus Жыл бұрын

there’s also a political divide here that is becoming more apparent given the manner in which AI image generators were readily and wholeheartedly adopted by those closer to the conservative end of the political spectrum and largely rejected by those on the liberal end. art as a profession tends to lean liberal. maybe that’s changing now with the pro-AI image generator people on one side and the rest somewhere else alongside that political spectrum. the turntables.

@ElinWinblad Жыл бұрын

Idk the AI art I’ve seen has been some of the most breathtaking “paintings “ and concepts I’ve ever seen

@mjt1517 Жыл бұрын

@@SchopenhauerVsCamus Art as a profession doesn't have political ideology. It's a neutral tool. And gatekeeping art is a pretty nefarious thing to do. All are welcome, no matter what their beliefs or tool preference.

@canesvenatici4259 Жыл бұрын

@@mjt1517 How would you like to be called a "tool" if you were an artist who was commissioned to draw a picture? You wouldn't, would you, because you have no clue how artists think, or why they are angry.

@Dam_Cali_breed Жыл бұрын

Hi I recently found your channel and I am so happy and impressed by your talent and kindness and way you teach. I am ordering my paints and brushes and canvas soon and I want to become an artist. I will be studying your techniques and others to learn.

@FishingtonBurpPuzzle Жыл бұрын

Each artist has unique things to say. Take for example Picasso in Guernica. Before that work nothing similar had been created. Picasso had developed through various periods and always experimented. I find his vision always fresh and compelling and this is what makes me wonder and feel inspired as well as the physical connection of human made technique revealed in the paintings.

@stephenburrows4250 Жыл бұрын

Excellent comments…, totally agree 🙏. As a Fine Art artist I have gravitated from painting to digital integration with traditional painting to AI… I find I can be as creative with AI art as I can be with paint & canvas. I’m not selling my AI (yet), I have some new ideas beyond NFTs to bring them to market (I have 100’s), but for now I’m just enjoying creativity with a new medium, selling is not my priority… 🙏

@odoublely Жыл бұрын

I was participating in an art contest, put hours of work into creating an oil painting and I'm not gonna lie that I was dissapointed when I found out, that an AI generated image has won the contest. I am not a sour loser, it was not important to me to win, I enjoyed the process. If the winner were another traditional artist or photographer I would not feel anything. Knowing that AI won, made me feel some type of emptiness inside. AI has no soul. That's what is happening with our humanity. Soul-less consumerism. As long as its fast and you can commercialize it the most effective way - it's important.

@thomashamilton9582 6 ай бұрын

He's a robot😂. Listen to his logic, it's not whole😅*** that not a person!.

@chris-hu7tm Жыл бұрын

Paintings can easily be done through AI art and then use a 3d printer to replicate brush strokes and the "non-flatness" of a painting

@Dante-is7zx Жыл бұрын

Bonjour Florent, que penses-tu (à titre tout à fait personnel) du blanc de plomb ? Bonne journée et merci popur tes vidéos.

@devernepersonal3636 Жыл бұрын

AI can replace jobs like illustrators and any art that is done for professional stuff. no one was talking about traditional painting a landscape people. But, because it can steal any of your art from the web and use it to spit out something for any person who types a prompt (mid journey) it is a problem for all artists. it is nothing like the camera. Cameras added a unique fun tool and photography is an art all its own. and both can live in harmony. AI is a completely different thing. It wont stop people from making the art they want to make or feel needs to be made, but it will take professional level jobs away. But it is true that Art is a human thing, but it is possible that ai being so good at making hyper detail will push artists to make the most detailed paintings ever. Making art and having exhibitions and solo shows, and everything from the past will still happen. AI will probably mostly be in the professional sector. It is Immoral creatively speaking to allow AI art to be a part of art contests. You are HILARIOUS for saying mid journey is an elaborate camera. A camera has to be fully operated by a human and take a picture of reality. you have to go out into the snow or rain or humid heat to get your photos and it is a craft. Mid Journey steals from artists and just makes something perfect from a text prompt. you could not be more off man. It is not just pushing a button man. there is much more to photography than that. and AI artists that just do AI purely are not artists. The fact that you are saying that photography doesn't require skills means you have never taken a photo with a real camera and seen how easy it is to get a photo that does not look a thing like what you saw until you actually took the time to learn how to control the camera.

@Hibernial Жыл бұрын

It must take a level of skill and intellect to design an algorithm that can work to photo-bash a catalog of online images, without being distorted to the point of missing a text prompt. Or that just amounts to typing up a sentence and pushing a button.

@mjt1517 Жыл бұрын

@@Hibernial AI image generators don't photo bash, by the way.

@Hibernial Жыл бұрын

@@mjt1517 It’s more sophisticated I’m sure, but in essence it’s not different to what some artists and graphic designers already do with digital software. If images are coming from an online catalog and are being mixed together, than it’s far more than not a similar technique that programmers are emulating. Their approach is just mechanical rather than intuitive. Interestingly I’d say it proves that there’s really an aspect of science to art.

@siegbraud4658 Жыл бұрын

@@Hibernial Yes right it takes a lot of skills to have fun typing words into Google image

@canesvenatici4259 Жыл бұрын

@@mjt1517 Then why do you keep having to say that?

@iMakeThat Жыл бұрын

I always appreciate hearing your thoughts on subjects like this 🎉 Personally I’ve just completely ignored Ai “art” other than it made me think that I should start uploading lower quality images of my traditional art… which is something I should’ve been doing all along anyway tbh. Great video Florent 🎨 can’t wait to see your next painting 🖼️

@FlorentFargesarts Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much 😊🎨✨️

@missy3591 Жыл бұрын

Over the years seems like all art types inspire each other. And for me I started with pen colors in my art. Then did pencil but I really wanted to learn it all lol. Challenging myself and need to find a place to learn how the paint.

@kimmykimko Жыл бұрын

You dont need to be afraid of AI Art. You need to be afraid of AI everything. You have zero clue whats being done, what's possible and what's coming if all you're thinking about is your art.

@karshbandicoot5037 Жыл бұрын

He never said he's only thinking about his art. That's just the topic of this particular video.

@Robocop-qe7le Жыл бұрын

gurl youre missing the point; he never said he is afraid of AI art or everything.

@philiptownsend4026 Жыл бұрын

Oh Florent, you have really got this insomniac going at 0400 on a Wednesday morning. So much is churning through my mind, triggered by your discussion. I feel that I cold talk or write forever on this subject with a religious fervour. But what I can say briefly right now is that you have continued the long French tradition of providing the world with deep philosophical thought. I have long believed that philosophers show the rest of us the way forward. I always thought of Eric Cantona, the famous french footballer, as much more than a footballer. He was a philosopher too. I want to respond to you an awful lot more. I expect I shall. But not now as I must try to sleep.

@JustAFrame Жыл бұрын

"It will get better today or tomorrow " Ok then I want it getting better after they actually care about copyright and ethics Just accepting bad things bc they are better is not the answer

@FlorentFargesarts Жыл бұрын

I'm not accepting or rejecting anything, I am making a statement of what I think the future holds with regards to AI and art. About the copyright issues, the courts will give their verdicts and everybody will adjust to potential new laws. Maybe they will force companies to not use "in the style of x artist" as a prompt. Maybe they will force companies to mention the sources of theirdata. I hope things will evolve positively and companies will be accountable but I can't be sure, it’s still a grey area. In the video, I said that, so far, the current state of ai is concerning, I even used the term "disgusting" but I am a realist and I know things like this move on, with all the good and all the bad they carry.

@JustAFrame Жыл бұрын

@@FlorentFargesarts I am not too crazy about courts.new legislation has to be passed around privacy and copyright If disney can extend copyright to a century then for the people legislatures should stop accepting ai with no question I hope they also add protection for people's data even if it's not art and you are saying people will accept it bc you haven't thought about implications of AI being a wild west for example some idiot train using your and face and make it say what he wants in normal days only few are capable of it AI art is anti privacy nuclear missile and the bot and political discussion online like twitter which impacts policy means AI will break the largely fragile political infrastructure Yes people will move on but We need to try hard as we can so it will move in a right direction aka respecting privacy and rights of others

@mikethomas5027 Жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed hearing your perspective on this topic. Thanks so much for sharing. 😊

@rebelangel8227 Жыл бұрын

Comming from a traditional background I remember when digital art came out I was one of the edglords hating on digital art. Now im a digital artist and im excited about what AI will be bringing to the table as far as new tools for creativity. I think we will see a new breed of artist come out of this a digital painter who is also skilled at prompting. But ai is pretty good for inspiring new ideas when you look through all the prompt results. The glass is either half empty or half full and I want a refill lol

@alessiapodgorica1260 Жыл бұрын

I agree with you in many points. Like many people, I believe there are going to be many generated images from AI involved in creative fields like character design, graphic novels, illustration, animation, 3D modeling, etc. But, the more I look at the AI results, not to say art, the more the same they seem to me. So, if there's someone to save the value of creativity, they are going to be the art consumers, viewers and the most importantly, the animated movie fans and comic books readers. Yes, I know, not everyone knows anything about art, but almost everyone is genuinely able to discover originality. So, a lot of people in entertainment industry are going to use AI, and going back to original human creators, because many fans will not be interested in such things very soon. Like you said, AI cannot generate pictures from nothing, because it is not a human being. It is a problem, but hopefully it is going to be solved. I find your video very encouraging and optimistic, so thank you.

@Liza_artcanada Жыл бұрын

Love listening to you!! Thank you❤

@AnnaAtkinsonDunn Жыл бұрын

It will only take a modified 3d printer to replace oil painters.

@dickydoodles2423 Жыл бұрын

to me the weird thing isnt AI, but people happy by idea that "artists" will be starved and jobless, the idea that those who chart into the unknown, who do the thinking that hasnt been thought of before, who see things noone else does,but through art,make the manifest in a way that others can also see for the first time, what they see...That their machines will allowthem to be asgood if not better than those artists they have contempt for, cause they never understood what creativity even is... To my this whole discussion goes beyond art theft or starved out artists, cause that has existed always, it is its own natural selection of sorts... But the real discussion is about how enlighted we are, and is it enough to relegate thinking outside the box, which is what art is, to machines... This is a tool for corporations, advertised as art accessibility for consumers... All in an attempt to control the most uncontrollable people that exist, creatives, and devalue them in the eyes of the public. We are not enlightened enough to replace ourselves by machines... Simple.

@Annmariekahn Жыл бұрын

It seems like artistic careers will become focused on who can create the best ideas to then input into the AI. You still need someone to come up with the idea of the story and the characters, even if the way those characters end up being visually created will change.

@Coldbird1337 Жыл бұрын

Or you can use chat gpt

@karshbandicoot5037 Жыл бұрын

AI in and of itself holistically I'd be careful, but insofar as art is concerned, I don't see it as that different from any other new tech scaring artists into thinking their lives were over. Photography for example. Photography didn't ruin art forever, but it changed it so that new styles emerged that didn't emphasise the realism that a camera could now do, like Expressionism. Artists needed to think outside the box to make art better than photography, be more creative and think of compositions that could no longer be captured by a camera. It actually made art better and more diverse. (I had written this before this same point was mentioned in the video hehe) I think AI is similar. I agree with you completely when you say artists will just have to reinvent themselves and be better. I've even used AI renders to improve my traditional media skills and practice likeness without having to worry about copyright. The challenge was not only likeness but also correcting the AI's errors. My prediction is that traditional media might even make a comeback the way Old School Rock and Roll still inspires musicians to prefer tube amps rather than digital modeling today, the way people still read real books even though they thought e-books would replace them, and also because of the general skepticism about online privacy and having your work stolen, whether by a robot or a human. There's something about a traditional oil painting or an encaustic portrait or a tempera glaze on a ceramic pot made by a human that's unique and irreplaceable. The smell, the feel, the experience of not only making it but also just appreciating it and having it on the wall, it's irreplaceable. So I'm probably in a minority when I say that insofar as AI is concerned holistically, we need to start having some conversations. AI in art though, I feel like a lot of the concern is just hysteria and panic. AI can also help out with digitisation, like upscaling resolution or colour correction. I don't see how it's different from any other tool, like any paintbrush or blowtorch to fuse encaustic medium or photoshop etc.

@careywanabe Жыл бұрын

I want a 2 hour NFT rant. Or any 2 hour rant .... 🤣

@TajaeJPringle Жыл бұрын

The video definitely need more views! Very informative content.

@leannebear8842 18 күн бұрын

Haha i love that. ‘Not that we have real jobs anyway” i’m a composer. Classical music composer and thinking. Hmmm maybe I can sell some paintings to support my composition habit?

@lisalennon498 Жыл бұрын

I’m not really worried about it as a painter as there are plenty of people who want one of a kind pieces.

@FlorentFargesarts Жыл бұрын

Exactly, one of kind. I also think it's the key and this what might make a big come back when we will be saturated with mass produced images.

@lisalennon498 Жыл бұрын

@@FlorentFargesarts yes agreed. This will separate painters from ai. I’ve actually had people ask me if this is my only version, people want something that no one else has. Also at this moment in time and I’ll sure this will change, ai art has its own look, you can tell almost instantly that it made by an algorithm and not a graphic designer and definitely not a painter.

@ElinWinblad Жыл бұрын

Couldn’t ai via 3D printer type set up but with paints create a painted version of any digital image in future

@rdallas1614 3 ай бұрын

What I find troubling for young to intermediate artists is the proliferation of cheap paintings from China were they paint over digital images on canvas, many of the images I suspects were created using AI technology. The horrific work conditions and environmental disaster of the Chinese paint factories is not apparent in the works and unknowing buyers may feel that they are getting something of value. Tarrifs are needed to allow people to compete at entry level, otherwise a large section of the cultural industry will die

@wolfgangtoeglhofer1710 Жыл бұрын

Very interesting tutorial. Just one comment: maybe soon we will see AI art with 3D (oilpaint printing). This though doesn’t make your statements irrelevant

@Lana_Owin Жыл бұрын

"what being a human is all about" 👏🏻🙌🏻

@luisadebarnot3251 Ай бұрын

Thank you for this superbe video

@kznsq77 Жыл бұрын

I think making good AI art is just as hard as taking a good photo. Here you need taste, experience, a good moment and good post-processing. Amateurs will make “art” at the level of holiday pictures, while professionals and talents will be able to make really good art. In addition, for a person, the person behind the art, even made with the help of AI, is always important. In traditional painting, this is always guaranteed, as a person paints a picture by hand with a brush. The excitement will subside, AI will become an analogue of photography, but when you don’t have to go anywhere, but you can get the desired image right from your imagination :)

@crypton_8l87 Жыл бұрын

@3.00 your insight made me laugh out loud!! Awesome point!! a real artist can't ever be out of a job coz we never had one 😅

@meaningoflife7199 Жыл бұрын

What is there to reinvent? I feel we’ve explored every aspect and style that visual art can give us, I can’t imagine anything new that AI can’t produce and even if we come up with an idea AI just copies it in seconds

@blengi Жыл бұрын

they should be worried. When the AI models can be tuned to personalize what is generated to precisely conform to individual preferences in a way that no artist could manage, then what's the point of an individual opting for an inferior representation of their dreams at zero cost and a thousand variations in less time it takes a "real" to create 1 piece? Of course the next step is the AI will be 3D and animated with personality and a compelling personalized narrative evolving it, and other things yet to be imagined ie something no human can compete with....

@Sominadi Жыл бұрын

I agree that artists have nothing to fear from AI. On the other hand for the starving artists I am not! I have several examples of artists who sell a lot and well with and or without a gallery and some only sales original ! those artists earn well over 6 figures a year and that's good. where is the problem earning a living by exercising your passion? why not accept this change so that the artist reaps the fruits of his labor rather than speculators getting richer? in short, the RS will have at least had the good effect of allowing the little ones to grow up and be able to live from their passion

@wolfgangtoeglhofer1710 Жыл бұрын

How will traditional art evolve both technically as well as content wise, the latter maybe a mute question

@rodeastell3615 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the video ... very informative and thought provoking.

@lindaheath784 Жыл бұрын

What does AI mean?

@studiosoixante Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your perspective on AI art, I can tell you've thought about it a lot! I'm looking forward to it as a springboard for inspiration for now. As it matures I'm sure there'll be new ways to explore it and it will become its own thing. I only worry for the commercial world of illustrators or designers for publications, games and film. I think it will all be determined by cost to produce. I've seen this three times in my life now where it has affected me personally, once as a photographer, a sound engineer, and then as a graphic designer. All three fields devolved from an artisanal enterprise to a cost-effective commercial product, usually with a sudden decline in quality which the public normalized until that genre matured. The creative arts may split into two camps once again, those who utilize AI professionally, and those who want to be artisans. For this smaller artisanal sector, there will always be a market. In some regards, this might be a boon for a good artist. Right now there are too many competing for the same space. Could it be that AI will thin the herd?

@FlorentFargesarts Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your perspective, I do think that it will move a lot of things in the domains you mention but the talent will still be there and alive so my hope is that it will find a new place to shine.

@ericsamuelaguirre5709 Жыл бұрын

At the moment, the algorithm does what it wants, and in the end nobody knows the final result. The person who issues orders to the machine does not know what will come out, nor does the AI know the final result. Chance plays a very important role in the process. This may sound offensive, but to me this is autism on steroids, even though artificial intelligence is creative and entertaining, it doesn't speak to the complexity of us as a species. It is pure surface without content. The problem is when nobody knows how to distinguish reality and appearance. Scammers and plagiarists will be everywhere, and the levels of realism will become more and more perfect. Many professions are going to disappear, but I doubt that art as such will disappear. I speak of art where there is some kind of human intervention.

@dagoelius Жыл бұрын

Artists should be focusing on the audience & buyers response. Convince them why human made art is superior. Either we as artist evaluate and evolve our marketing strategy with a focus on human made, REAL artwork infused with spirit and the human condition or we become AI saboteurs- make corrupt art with the intent of flooding the web with "ingredient images" that feeds the AI image syphering systems with nonsense, errors ridden images with artifacts and incorrectness. Make the AI produces images that disgusts or bores the buyer. Indifference is a powerful tool that can be used against AI popularity. Who knows we may even start a new genre of art.

@digitalphanes206 Жыл бұрын

i hope you are right, but the saturation of beautiful images has only downsides i think. lets say somebody is in a market for a new print: nowadays 1- there is a good chance they have played with AI art and want to print something 'they made' 2- if they dont use it, they will be able to find millions of images free to use, without watermarks that stock footage sites at least had...

@Lucius_Art Жыл бұрын

Please everyone, watch The End of Art: An Argument Against Image AIs by steven zapata before coming to any conclusions based off this video. This guy has already laid down like a dog before these AI art companys. Steven's video shoots down alot of the arguments represent here worth a watch.

@Space_Potat Жыл бұрын

Commenting in agreement

@robdog114 Жыл бұрын

The problem is that A.I. art is not going away. Maybe there will be some copyright laws implemented, but A.I. is here to stay and it will exist all over the place not just in art. Technological progress cannot be stopped.

@MustafaO.Artisan Жыл бұрын

That's quite rude and disrespectful to call someone "laid down like a dog." I have already seen Steven Zapata video and I agree with him and many others that this is a fight that needs to be fought, if not to ensure that the technology is being used fairly and address any legal and moral concerns. Nonetheless, Florent Farges is sharing fair and respectful argument while mentioning briefly the issues of A.I. but is also looking at the long-term. Either way he's sharing a respectful point of view, and I don't see any reason to disrespect him for it.

@FlorentFargesarts Жыл бұрын

Hey Lucius, feel free to disagree with me, it's ok. No need to be disrespectful, though. I mean, this technology is not going anywhere, whether you like it or not, we need serious debates and conversations if we need to figure out how to solve the problems it will cause. I agree with lots of Steven's points, that it's a fight digital artist need to fight, but in my opinion it's something that's going to happen on the short term and I wanted to share my perspective on the evolution of AI on the medium to long term. It will be chaos the first few decades until it settles.

@Lucius_Art Жыл бұрын

@@FlorentFargesarts I want to believe your right and traditional work will suddenly be valued again but after what ? ai gut's humans from the creative industry's ? If you want to take aim at people devaluing traditional work its not digital artists we are on the same team. This video is damaging/detoothing Artists this is something i find hard to respect especially when it is full of disanalogous strawmen arguments. In this video you talk about how artists and ai steal the same way, suggesting what ? we should make a world where we grant ai models the same copyright protections as humans?? a multi million dollar company raping the entire internet and putting all the copyrighted work it collected into algorithm without the artists consent is not something an stealing artist can do and the scale of damage caused is not analogous. We are fighting court battles over this. If you are already demoralized/under the impression that the fight is already over you are Laying down before these ai companys doing exactly what they want you to do, while other artists influencers lawyers are fighting in what ways they can. You are here telling us how the fight is over and we should prostrate ourselves before these ai companys, use them to make 90% of the creative decisions in a sad effort to pick up the scraps ai companys leave for us. Fuck that.

@williammclean6594 Жыл бұрын

I think it's inevitable eventually ai will replace artists in like game development fields and stuff like that I mean the technology is really new imagine what it will be like in 50 years the world is heading towards automation machines will replace people in most every sort of job like we don't need cashiers anymore. It's kind of like the movie Wall-E from Disney we're machines does do everything for us and nobody really needs to work anymore they won't really need like minimum wage jobs anymore you'll probably have to go to school for something if you want the job because probably 80% of the jobs that we have now won't being used in 100 years

@iamkifo Жыл бұрын

Thank you for an excellent discussion and sharing different perspectives on the subject of AI. Your progressive humanist viewpoints give us a balanced and hopeful understanding to the future of art in our civilisation.

@smailhamza7251 Жыл бұрын

L'IA reste un outil technologique comme c'était le cas de l'informatique, le monde numérique et le net à leur époque. A mon humble avis l'Art traditionnel restera humainement traditionnel aucun souci et prendra même plus de valeur mais je pense que c'est l'Art numérique qui va être chamboulé avec l'IA comme il est à son pouvoir de faire des trucs bon et correct numériquement parlant à une vitesse d'exécution ultra rapide ce qui arrange le monde du business qui ne court qu'après le gain en terme de temps et d'argent donc réussiront ceux qui maitriseront l'IA dès maintenant car elle se développera à une vitesse vertigineuse d'ici 2030.

@ElinWinblad Жыл бұрын

Soon so will be able to be linked to a paint brush like a 3D printer to produce paintings similar to how a human would

@cosmiic_cat Жыл бұрын

Would love to see an NFT video 👍

@thomaschristopherwhite9043 Жыл бұрын

I'm not worried about it. As AI art becomes better and cheaper what that's gonna do is just make my services more valuable. People are gonna be more willing to pay higher for ideas that actually come from an artists mind than something they can get in 2 seconds off the internet. Think about how handmade shoes and mechanical watches are more valuable than your regular sneakers and cereal box quartz watches.

@Death-777 Жыл бұрын

So doom and gloom, one should rather learn these new tools. Adapt and overcome, not stand paralyzed for the firing lines. "The use of AI in the creation of art can actually inspire and promote creativity, and should be embraced as a valuable tool in the world of art". But instead it was met not with logic but feelings, feelings elicited from imminent obsolesce of one's own talents. AI isn't replacing you it's the artists using the AI.

@farisaleem5431 Жыл бұрын

Wow! A great explanation and a very interesting perspective! This video absolutely helped me to look at the bright side of this emerging new technology(AI). I appreciate you taking time and sharing your thoughts on this topic and also helping us to think the ways we can try to evolve accordingly:). Thanks!!!

@GnaReffotsirk Жыл бұрын

Imagine a photoshop like program, where each tool is or has AI generative tech in it.

@FlorentFargesarts Жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure it's going to be a reality very soon. It would reduce crunch time and offer new features like expanding images (like the opposite of cropping). Ultimately, it will be one major selling point of AI. This is why it will inevitably become a thing. Making ai art will be fun for a while but on the long run, it will become boring to most people but this type of application will become the new reality.

@GnaReffotsirk Жыл бұрын

@@FlorentFargesarts im also waiting for this type of application but in VR. I can imagine myself inside a space in VR and having the AI generate stuff for specific parts of the space, say clouds, or mountain ranges, or buildings etc.

@colbyganoe7046 Жыл бұрын

I would be interested to hear more on the NFT topic

@FlorentFargesarts Жыл бұрын

Thanks Colby, I take good note!

@oneoftheninetynine3953 Жыл бұрын

They said the same thing about photography and yet hand painted paintings are still a status symbol. I'll be worried about it when I see galleries full of this junk and people lining up to buy them. I think a lot of young digital artists who already do this kind of stuff but use their brains to do it instead might have a problem though. If you aren't putting much effort into your work in the area of ideas and originality, you may be in for a hard time, particularly in that this kind of AI rips off human artist's art big time and there are already lawsuits over that, proving that the AI isn't as 'creative' as we might wish. I don't think there is an actual market for it except the people who want to play with the AI itself. The end result has no soul. I've yet to look at any AI piece that has that "certain something" that looks like actual masterful art to me.

@oneoftheninetynine3953 Жыл бұрын

Can anyone tell me which direction the singers in that theatre d' spatial AI painting are facing? because it looks like the central figure's body is facing the viewer but her head is 180 degrees the other way. It's this kind of weirdness that shows AI doesn't quite get it yet. Also I've not quite seen a piece that looks quite almost-? this kinda good. I cant' help but wonder if there was some non-AI diddling in the Colorado competition piece to clean it up a bit but I could be wrong.

@thepit7868 Жыл бұрын

Yes. It is.

@Ane_artdesigns Жыл бұрын

AI only existing because it’s programmed by corruptive human beings on the dark side of the tunnel. The goodness always shine over wickedness, evildoers! It’s inevitable challenging being a traditional artist, but keep ur feet on the ground because good side always wins! Traditional artists are the good ones!!!💪🏻

@mjt1517 Жыл бұрын

So are you saying that everyone who uses AI to create images are bad?

@kajallivesinthebookstore Жыл бұрын

@@mjt1517 any person who steals and copies someone’s work to make an ai image is, yes 🐍

@ElinWinblad Жыл бұрын

Why would companies hire traditional artist to make concept art when the ai can do it for their game or story book art

@mjt1517 Жыл бұрын

They really would only need a few art directors to guide the process. AI image generators don't just spontaneously create images without human initiation and direction. The art directors would need to be artists themselves, so they have an understanding of what looks good, style, composition, color, etc. But yes...really no more need for a traditional artist to make concept art or story boards.

@davidh5403 Жыл бұрын

I think you are underestimating the influence of AI art!! This generation has been completely consumed by it's "easiness to use" and no longer appreciate the skill and talent of traditional artists like previous generations. Fortunately there are still many of us who value talents like yourself.

@nigammachchhar7494 Жыл бұрын

Job cut is sure part of AI evolution but other hand people are getting dumb and lazy they don't want to learn things just simply telling "Hey AI do this or do that for me and I am done". At the moment everyone is enjoying but one day will come there we have to get rid of AI as people stopped learning. I know there are some exception to that as very few people are just taking idea from AI but at the end, they produce final product by their own, for those AI is benefiting but mostly 70% of people use AI because they are lazy don't want to learn or work by their own. AI is not only risking our current but our generations future too. About all previous evolution so far like Digital Camera, Photoshop for Art, 3D modeling software etc etc in all those human needs to learn and do things by their own so they can showcase their own style, strength, creativity and best part is they get paid for doing their job but for AI??? simple any kid will describe things and AI will produce result that is most worrying because that kid doesn't know how that art can be reproduce and don't bother to learn it, we are getting dumb. We have to STOP AI, #stopAI.

@thewhitehand7106 Жыл бұрын

wait until they give that AI a arm and a paint brush :P

@mjt1517 Жыл бұрын

The day of the android is fast approaching.

@marcduchamp5512 Жыл бұрын

Just imagine next ten years how many people will be out of work. At some point human are clearly not needed

@lindaheath784 Жыл бұрын

All I know there is an awful lot of money spent on traditional art 🎨,

@FlorentFargesarts Жыл бұрын

Only one a few chosen artists, the high end art market makes most of the money and artists at the bottom do their best to make a living out of their art.

@vunguyentr5561 Жыл бұрын

Artists, don't just make art and resent over AI, be helpful and engaging with fans and fellow artists, build great relationship and understanding with ur audience, articulate about your value and tell a f*cking great story behind the arts. Most importantly, learn and get good at the game of social media, it's da best shot to make impacts and build influence with your arts

@genreartwithjb5095 Жыл бұрын

Oh I have to strongly disagree with you on AI art. That said love your channel brother!

@philiptownsend4026 Жыл бұрын

We are discussing AI. I just realised that Google's AI is helping me to write this comment with it's spelling and punctuation suggestions. Those are important aids to a reader's comprehension but are not influencing my message. AI is saving me time, helping me do a better job of writing, and enabling me to write more. As they say "what's not to like?" Just uploading my thoughts for what they are worth.

@samanthasutton-hk8oz Жыл бұрын

👍

@raruteam 11 ай бұрын

A total amateur with no art knowledge can create that AI picture that won the contest on the museum relatively easy, so I don`t agree that they are just another type of artists using different tools, in this case they depend on the tools, if they use a free smartphone AI generator their work is not even close than people using $10000 dollars computers and the most expensive Midjourney subscription. It makes me mad to think you can buy "talent" nowadays.

@gitbuh12345qwerty 7 ай бұрын

If you thought art was always going to be made one singular way with one singular value set. Yes. Be "afraid".

@sylvainst-pierre8725 Жыл бұрын

For me, never would i purchase "art" created with AI. Never. No matter how good it is. To find info and answer some of my questions, to train or give a critic of my drawing, yes.

@JordanLimbachArt Жыл бұрын

Well done! 👍

@FelipeBudinich Жыл бұрын

What is being called "AI" is not AGI, it's just a method that interpolates across a multitude of points, it can't "understand" and thus it can't make art, so 🤷‍♂️

@GayRocker81 Жыл бұрын

Not really.... It's usually quite noticably "OFF" anyway, so..... No threat here!

@FlorentFargesarts Жыл бұрын

Humans are also off a lot of the time and I'm pretty sure AI will get better with time so who knows what it will create...

@GayRocker81 Жыл бұрын

@@FlorentFargesarts Yes, but that's more due to personality (if any personality at all) issues rather than physical defects... .....I'll still take the "hands on" approach over the "generated" approach any time of the day...

@SlumpogMillionaire Жыл бұрын

There already exists Stable Diffusion, one of the big A.I image generators, plugins for Photoshop and Krita and they are game changers. I've been using the photoshop one for some weeks now and it basically can do the kind of stuff you've described at 23:42. These plugins basically allow the combination of the artists art skills while using A.I as something of a 'co-pilot' and I can see someone using this professionally will dramatically increase their output... especially in industries where quantity > quality is the name of the game.

@Adeniyidairo Жыл бұрын

I am a graphic artist and I don't fear Ai one bit and just because you are a traditional artist I don't think you are any authority on an artists worth graphic or otherwise or if there jobs will be gone in the years to come. I sense bitterness in this video. Maybe you should turn that keen insight on yourself.

@Wandrative Жыл бұрын

Photography is not art. Its merely a record of the real world which can be art. Your whole video is ridden with propaganda from the AI community. Art is about visual and spatial intelligence which the user nor the AI has none of.

@mjt1517 Жыл бұрын

Are you assuming all users of AI image generators are non-artists?

@Wandrative Жыл бұрын

@@mjt1517 Once you use AI you are an anti-artist who has mediocre artistic and visual talent thus has to resort to outsourcing. Im not assuming, Its called knowing.

@Coldbird1337 Жыл бұрын

...you do realize that machines are capable of painting, right? Especially with the robot slaves tesla is making.

@artbyfaith Жыл бұрын

Art is art no matter how it’s created. I like all kinds of methods, paint and brushes, paints, pens, pencils, computer, etc. Being creative is being artistic in my opinion.

@blank8479 Жыл бұрын

An ai art could be generated and if you couldn't know that it was ai generated you would then say that the person who created that art is very gifted. However it was never created by a living thing without any history of emotion from that person but instead a cheap overabundance of code that got programmed

@josephineknutson9259 Жыл бұрын

I don’t like AI paintings because obviously it’s fake. It’s not human , but hand made by human is priceless. No one can copy the original work made by hand which is comes from the heart

@JustAFrame Жыл бұрын

This whole AI will be better get over it framing is just disingenuous AI got better only happened bc the people training thought there are no rules for them. AND just so you know there is this called capitalism and extraction of surplus value you might wanna lookup When whole blockbuster movies are made by a measly "crew" of 50 people(probably in next decade or so) then the job losses alone will ruin art industry even ignoring the cash in flow issues

@crypton_8l87 Жыл бұрын

Digital looks like digital.. and it's not timeless.

@dopplegangerdavid Жыл бұрын

I'm not worried about AI taking away artists jobs. I'm afraid of AI nuking the hell out of us!

@Space_Potat Жыл бұрын

“But if you’re a traditional artist like me-“ Stop. Should stop right there. If something doesn’t affect YOU personally (not just in this context, but anywhere), then you should NOT try to counter the people whom it Actually DOES affect. Otherwise you become _just like_ those ableists(intentional or not) who try to disprove autistics who are advocating for themselves, and making it even harder for them to share the word, knowledge and hardships of putting up with NTs (the bad ones among them) I know this most likely will fall on deaf ears of probably 50-70% of people reading, for either of the parts of my comment. Also I’m ready to just delete away the hate replies from trollz and аibr0s who don’t have anything better to do..

@FlorentFargesarts Жыл бұрын

Why wouldn't it affect me when it pretty much will affect everyone?... It's not like there's a group of people who can decide to keep a technology like this for themselves and decide what's allowed or not to say and what people are allowed to think. You're welcome to disagree with me but I can share my opinions if I want. Please don't delete comments as long as they follow tos, everybody has the right to their opinion and we need to talk about big issues... all of us! That's how we'll move forward positively, that's how we'll solve the problems these new technologies might cause. Let's all have conversations.

@mjt1517 Жыл бұрын

You can't delete other people's comments on social media. That would be a cool feature though. If you're the OP in a comment thread, you get to delete any comment under your main comment.

@Hibernial Жыл бұрын

AI becoming a tool to help lessen crunch time hours in movies and game studios would be great. Art directors could make use of it in a team. It seems to be the niche direction of where this software is headed, and I’m all for indie studios getting more of a leg up. The bandwagon of pessimism doesn’t really make sense to me, though I understand things being a concern for artists who are more into a glamour and viral art sub-culture rather than commercial work.

@FlorentFargesarts Жыл бұрын

I agree, overall, it will be widely adopted after a decade or two of chaos and trial and error. Like photography back in the days. The benefits are just too strong even though new issues will surely emerge, like with all new tech.

@marikothecheetah9342 Жыл бұрын

Indeed, but it will influence commercial art industry heavily. It's not even about the skill but time and with ever racing world when a thing from two weeks ago is already old news it might as well turn into a useful tool for brainstorming or generating ideas for further development. You pay an artist per hour usually, including concept art and briefs and whatnot. In just an hour you can generate gazillions of iterations of one idea so it's too good a thing to pass from the business perspective and I imagine this becoming the basic tool for every commercial art business.

@ElinWinblad Жыл бұрын

Ah yes who cares about the creatives in that field as long as you get your game quicker?

@marikothecheetah9342 Жыл бұрын

@@ElinWinblad businesses are interested only in profit. You, as a worker, are a resource, thus human resources, the materials, the tools, not personnel. And if you can be replaced by a machine, you will be.

@Hibernial Жыл бұрын

@@marikothecheetah9342 Without making profits, employers wouldn’t have wages to give to employees. Finding ways to increase productivity also ultimately ends up meaning higher wages. If abusing a new tool like a crutch has an opposite effect instead, than that’s an amplification of poor direction as a pre-existing problem. I’d think that indie and smaller studios stand to benefit overall the most. The instability of triple A studios in their production process in sometimes throwing out near finished work to start over from scratch is mitigated just a bit with something that could help speed up the pre-visualization stage. Work hidden from the public by a disclosure agreement would have less of a timespan being in limbo. To me it’s a shame that there’s a lot of concept art and probably illustration work done for games and movies that just never gets released, or is on the back burner for so long that when it does release other IP’s are already in the topic of news and immediate discussion.

@christophershane2408 Жыл бұрын

There's no comparison. Artists go through the whole developmental process. You will never put your AI's first crayon drawings on your refrigerator now will you?

@pastuh Жыл бұрын

Found old A4 sticker paper with multiple small art pictures. Couldnt find any artists and similar images. So solution was very simple.. took photos, adjusted a little and trained AI to learn same style. It took 30minutes.. Results was amazing.

@JCarrera27 Жыл бұрын

👏🖤

@FlorentFargesarts Жыл бұрын

🙏😊

@interrestrial9815 Жыл бұрын

In the 1850’s humans started an unprecedented change in culture. No one then knew it was happening. Instead, they knew jobs were disappearing. Land use was morphing, air was not as clean and colors were shifting. They were living in an unforeseen, un-anticipated and as it progressed bewildering, frightening, depressing and heady new reality. The industrial revolution. Out of this untold numbers of jobs were created. The cost of a single egg in London decreased to where you could buy 12 eggs for the same price in the space of 2 years. Life spans eventually more than doubled and the worlds population went boom. Will something similar occur with AI? Doubtful, it is a sea change though. New direction, new results, new frontiers. But fine art speaks to and is practiced by the human spirit. Painting is one of its methods of creation and renewal. More than 20 years ago a friend, then a world renown photographer, and I were discussing the artistic life. He at one time was a student learning to paint and draw at a well know atelier in France. He said to live as an artist requires flexibility and openness to the new. Not as a sycophant to change but as a thinking and feeling human to use that which will further your vision and story. Your methods and materials are the means. Grasp what fits and create.

@soon2burdad Жыл бұрын

things are only going to get worse, as they always have, sorry

@torsmork Жыл бұрын

As an artist I welcome AI. It will make art better, then humans will take that to new heights and frontiers, making new art.

@Thesamurai1999 Жыл бұрын

It’ll overwhelm every social media outlets the more mainstream it gets. It’ll be significantly harder to be seen by others if everyone can create images like Leonardo Da Vinci or Michelangelo what will you do to stand out? And the moment you do stand out others will just train their AI on your unique work and suddenly you no longer stand out.

@Hibernial Жыл бұрын

@@Thesamurai1999 Photoshop already exists, and photo-bashing hasn’t been something that’s brand new. The efficiency of AI mixing imagery together could work to add to already existing catalogs like Pinterest. But beyond surreal Imagery, getting particular details down where say gestural hands, or perspective angles, is not this software’s strong suit. Visual distortion is also what replaces an intended or emotionally driven narrative.

@Thesamurai1999 Жыл бұрын

@@Hibernial Yes photoshop already exists. But it takes hours to make something good out of it (in terms of realism). And anyone who rush the process will only create horrible art. Whereas the point of AI is to be able to degenerate pretty images in an instant. Sure, it may struggle to get proportions right at times, but that’s only for now. Give it a year or two and one person can generate dozens of beautiful illustrations in a single day without any knowledge of the fundamentals. I’ve seen some AIs that are not mainstream, the images they can produce are mind bogglingly good. Those AIs are trained by individuals in very shady ways. You can’t get a hold of them, and worst off all, they’re making a shit ton of money just by degenerating images. Artstation is a good example of this, they didn’t ban AI art because of artists complaining, they did it because clients started to get annoyed with it. Now the clients don’t care who they hire, but they do care about someone who knows what they’re doing. And so when Artstation started getting filled up with AI images it makes it harder for a client to find a professional concept artist/illustrator who knows what they’re doing. And on top of that it scared away the professionals themselves, forcing Artstation to ban any AI images that has not been edited. It’s just too easy to overflow a site with degenerated art. This should worry you also, as it’s only a foreshadowing of what is to come in the traditional space. Once the AI’s are fine tuned all it needs is a robot arm. People will spam every social media with generated oil paintings.

@mjt1517 Жыл бұрын

@@Hibernial AI isn't photo bashing when it creates an image.