Nunez was doing fine in Jan and Feb, until Trent and Salah and all the other injured players were shoved back in the team immediately and our season fell to pieces cuz they were all playing absolute shit.

I feel like this argument that Darwin doesn't score vs the bigger teams is not looking at the big picture... both matches vs united, he has an assist and salah's goal in the 4-3 is from a deflection off a nunez shot. City? he gets the pen for us that macca scores. Assist vs chelsea, assist vs new castle for the 1st (on top of the brace in the first). assist to seal the match v everton. vs villa that end 4th, an assist and he generated an own goal off the post. Saying he's "not there" is just wrong cause he's contributed to big matches. Could he have done way better? hell yeah. But to say he wasn't there for any big matches this season is just wrong. And even what some say was a "very poor season" for him, so many of our points hinged on this lad this season... I get wanting him to reach his potential but he does get a lot of hate that's not deserved. He's just being scapegoated.

I can't remember a player that felt so close to being world class while also feeling so far away from world class at the same time like Nunez does

If Jota is fit, he starts ahead of Nunez, no question in my mind. I can't defend Nunez anymore, he misses far too many easy chances. The way he deleted his Liverpool pics, just proves how immature he is and doesn't have the mentality to lead our attack.

I personally would have looked for a fee this summer for him but I doubt that’s in the clubs plans, so he probably will start next season but he needs to majorly improve

To play devils advocate when you were talking about offsides you didn't talk about a very important point, the players feeding playing the balls don't seem to release it early enough for his pace.

If darwin played for another team l know exactly what we would be saying and it wouldn't be we want him at Liverpool

He's like a one goal in 11 attempts striker - can't be good enough for LFC!!!!

Gakpo and Nuñez are on the same boat for me, two very up and down players. People are saying Gakpo for starter mainly due to the recency bias of him ending the season stronger than Darwin but Gakpo was poor at the start to middle of the season, both need to improve under Slot. Also to argue the teams Darwin scores against, the Bournemouths the Burnley’s, etc. those are literally the park bus teams that was have the worst time scoring against 🤷🏻‍♂️

Darwin Nunez has got all tools to become world-class centre forward, but the question is can he deliver and can new coach like Arne Slot get best out of him? We know Slot has track record of developing players at max of their own potential, we hope he can do it with some of our players at the club.

I care more about goals and wins for the Liverpool Football Club more than I care about Darwin Nunez.

Slot turned a 8 goal a season striker into 20+ goal a season striker .. Now let’s see what slot can do with him . He’s improved yr on yr Yes he’s missed chances but the system under Klopp and pep was more chaotic . Slot’s will be more structured which should suit Nunez , Dom and gravenberch

Getting rid of Nunez would be an epic error. He really needs some sort of sport psychologist with him over pre season. He will come to light very soon!! Also the Same people calling for his head, regularly complain about FSG & Sack Jurgen….aka Gob Sh#t’s

To put it bluntly - no. Not intelligent enough as a footballer. Would be a legend at Liverpool in the Evans/Houllier-era when we were a top 4 team and you were more tolerant of 'purple patch' players who go missing for parts of the season, but we're now back on our perch and sitting at the top of the football pyramid with a few other elite teams, and our strikers need to reflect that and rise to the big occasions consistently.

At one point of the season he was the only one scoring every week. He has quality and is already producing cult hero moments. I honestly am a little ashamed of the treatment our fan base has given him to end the season.

Nunez 33 Goals 280 Shots 11.78% Conversion Rate That's what he needs to work on, his finishing. Even an increase of 5% results in 14 more Goals.

Salah was a hard cary for half the season he didn’t turn up in any game that counted, every time Darwin is on the pitch he breaks a nut for the team.✌️

Everyone loves gakpo (rightly so) who ended the season well but was poor for the majority. Nunez is the opposite, just because he finished the season poorly no reason to dismiss him. No reason to think he won’t continue to improve next season. In terms of him being offside so many of the passes needed to be played first time but the extra touch and looking up for him before hitting the pass meant he was offside (not always but I noticed this happened a fair bit). If Slot plays 4321 he’s ideal for the 9.

I do wonder if Slot can help him but, as you say, when I think of all the best strikers - they have an intensity, a seriousness. Darwin doesn't have this, he has the drummer gene that goalkeepers often have. Can Darwin be the first chilled out, funny world class striker? I can't see it to be honest but I'm more than happy to be proven wrong.

Yes deffo a starter , he terrorised defence's last season , and arm around him and the confidence will come with goals bang bang bang

He should definitely start - as 'Captain Chaos' on the left unless his finishing and ability to stay onside have improved. Simple as that.

Darwin Nunez: I get it. I understand his strengths and to be honest it’s something most of football is lacking. A fast run in behind the defence. Salah doesn’t do it as much because of the inverted role he’s more of a chalks on the boots winger again. Pep said Nunez doesn’t help control. Ste is right if you’re not going to do that. You need be doing more conversions to make up for it. It’s good he’s getting these stats but it’s also misleading. The amount of offsides isn’t even funny anymore because some kill momentum. Ruin counters or even if we’ve been under pressure and we’re trying to make em think about pushing up to high and getting confident him being offsides gives them the ball straight back. He also has some weird decisions when he’s not in attacking positions. Numerous times I’ve seen him and Diaz play horrible passes to the middle or switch which get cut off and they counter i.e. United FA cup rashford goal. My patience is wearing thin. You can say how he’s got more than Firmino ever did in any seasons but Firmino has scored crucial goals against Arsenal plenty times, Chelsea a few times, Man City a couple times even United in 20/21 in that huge late charge top 4 gets a brace. Some of these chances just watching them makes you feel sick. That Everton one I genuinely don’t think any forward in the top 10 of the league would hit it straight at the keeper. Maybe Jackson would. This about to be year 3 and we still don’t know what to expect when he’s one on one. That’s not good. Despite all the runs and stress he gives defenders and his assists has been better. I’d still also like him to more stronger on the ball when we do play it up to him in big games. Too many times city, arsenal and United defenders would take it off him or he’d go to ground when it’s not a foul

I personally believe/hope Nunez could benefit hugely from Slot, our current method of attacking is so chaotic, players moving everywhere, no two goals look the same, chances can come from anywhere or anyone at anytime and clearly Nunez isn’t the best instinctive finisher, sometimes he can but not at a high enough percentage, all of our forwards are struggling to finish if we’re honest, even he great mo Salah, we are nothing like city in that regard who create the same chance for Haaland 5 times a game, consistency and structure could be key for Nunez and I believe, from What I’ve heard that is exactly how slot attacks, it’s structured and repeatable, it wouldn’t shock me if a couple of players explode next season, slot can’t say he hasn’t got any talent in the squad, hopefully he can utilise it.

Nuñez scapegoated? Not seeing it. Many players were criticized this season, by different camps. Nuñez critics just held their tongue until the title was out of reach.

Darwin is just now entering his prime at 24. Salah came to Liverpool at 25. It would be crazy to give up on him now.

Also, the absurd bullying and threats launched at Nuñez-unless you all have *actually* put names to faces- could have been people from his own camp maliciously complying with what was already in the narrative space, dark arts stuff. It immediately took some of the heat off of him. Yes, Occam’s razor says probably not, but I wouldn’t totally rule it out.

Stick him on the left and get a decent striker

what’s crazy is that he would’ve got 15 goals and 10 assists if he started more games this season simple as

Does he need Salah ? He needs to lift his fxxking head is what his needs

He threatens defences. He puts defenders on the back foot. He scores Worldies. Consistency will come with confidence and game time

NO! He needs to be eased back into the team based on finish %. Start Jota or Gakpo over him.

Ste has some mad takes

Yes getting better and better.

Head says sell. Heart says keep

He's going to have to listen to slot and learn which will be as difficult as it was to listen to Klopp because he only speaks Spanish and he doesn't seem to have the capacity to learn other languages which isn't unusual.

Paul is forever positive and can’t see how Nunez is just not good enough.

Who's upset Ste, he doesn't seem very happy or positive bless him? As for Nunez, I'm not sure he's ever going to be that consistent elite level striker we hoped for, but he's still very good & will most likely improve. He could also 😢really benefit from some more intensive 1-2-1 coaching & hopefully someone can teach him the offside rule too! Fingers crossed his English is improving as well.

The new coaches will love the challenge of coaching a chance magnet like Nunez. I certainly think he should be given a season to do so... Coaching his mind as much as anything else... The talent is there, the temprament is not. ✌️⚽

Imagine if we had edwards last year he probably would’ve brought in gyokeres

As much as people hate on him he's still one of our most creative players he got into double figures for assists in all games.

Klopp is right, he’s the most unlucky player. I think he needs to go on loan to get that feeling of making goals again. Salah’s assist to him alone should have allowed Liverpool to become Premiere League Champions.

Would I take the money we paid for him back? Yes 100%. There is the answer.

I'd keep Nunez and Gakpo as the CF I would sell Diaz and Jota for Gordon and Bakayano Keep Koumas and Danns in the squad for next season Loan out doak and gordon

Nunez scored against City, Arsenal, United, Real,... last season. It's not like he only scores against bad teams. He's just not consistent finisher

Sick of seeing the same stuff on him now, he threatens teams, he is a handful, he gets loads of chances …. What good is that is he doesn’t get the important ones, 2 seasons now . If he was at another club it’s unlikely we would be saying god let’s sign him

He's not a striker man . He's a winger.

Darwin is in the damned if you do damned if you don’t category of players. If we let him go, we probably lose money bc his value is lower and we have yet to see him in a less direct system. On the other hand, can we afford to waste more salary, player value, and chances creates during being games for this player? The real question here is how much pressure do we want to put on Arne Slot. If Arne can do as advertised (as a man-manager) and simply align his xg with actual goals, we have our center forward on our hands. If not, then it looks really poor on the club for that transfer and could put Arne Slot’s tenure in jeopardy due to poor performances. Darwin could partially (no one player has that much power) make or break Arne’s tenure at Liverpool, so do we want to go through that risk? I’m personally on the side yes, but just tentatively. I’m putting Darwin in last chance saloon for this season bc we have much larger areas of need than ST.

Haaland doesn't score in the big games either

I have always stuck up for Nunez last season and i have this season i do believe you can improve a persons finishing in front of goal you cant improve footballers runs and where he runs if in the box i think that instinctive so not popular i know i would keep him unless silly money comes in for him

Ste you’re allowed disagree with Paul man don’t have to be nearly backtracking because he doesn’t agree Nunez is pony he’ll cost us again next season We baby him so much it’s so embarrassing we’re going on like Everton He’s 25 not 18

If the others scored more would we be having this convo…?

The only chance our club has post-Klopp, is to let Edwards cook, trust the nerds.

Comparing him to Benzema and Firmino is sufficiently stupid to unsub from this channel.

I like Darwin although his decision making to beat the keeper can be dodgy...remember the 2nd leg against Atalanta? clean through on goal and tries a cheeky chip at 0-0...that annoyed me massively 🔥 YNWA 🔥

Nunez gives you more than haaland .. But if Nunez can score 7-8 more goals in a season for the prem we have a chance of challenging for a title ..

I dunno, this “Darwin is Rubbish” criticism feels weird. He did alright this year, and in a rotation of 5/6 forwards, more than enough. Is it possible to just back the lad?

Salah misses howlers, Diaz too. Don’t say Haaland doesn’t, he shot over the bar from 6 yards recently. The point is it’s become the norm to always counter any opinion when talking about Darwin. Even if his goals were against ‘lower’ clubs they were still important at the time. Perhaps, against the better sides they have better keepers. Seem to recall a lot of saves he’s instigated. They’re not misses, they’re saves. Well done for keeping the balance Paul.

nunez doesn’t score in big games? scored against us, ajax and barca for benfica 21/22, scored against city, united, arsenal, Newcastle aka the top 4 of the prem and real madrid in 22/23 then this last season he’s not scored as much against the top teams but pretty sure he assisted against arsenal and city

Yes

He needs time like Diego forlan from Man United what happened after he left United he became one of the best striker in Europe

Hope Nuñez can leave that cold chicken chest team. He does miss, but i don't see them passing the ball. The teammates are holding the passes too much.

You mean '24/25' gotta fix the title chaps

Nicolas Jackson has more goals and assists in a worse team than Nunez and contributes more to overall play in my eyes. I don't see how Paul qualifies Nunez as better.

Fuck no

Yes Darwin will miss the occasional sitter (just like mane used to) but his threat is too much to discount. If half of his shots that hit the woodwork went in, he’s on a 20+ goal / 10+ assist season. The dramatization of how poor he is has been way overdone. Let’s see what a new system and a new manager can get out of him!

5 out of 10 max

Paul I get you're a positive fan, as am I, but sometimes you just need to call it as it is. There's a difference between optimistic & deluded. Also, bobby's role & darwin's role is completely different, so to say "bobby couldnt dream of those numbers" is an asinine argument. That's like saying bruno could dream of Isak's numbers, their roles are not even the same lmao Your coping. The issue is Nunez averages 5 shots a game & he cant score, it's not that hard to sit there & be honest is it? JFC. Good on Ste for keeping it real.

He misses far to many, he has to score a lot more hen he does. Million dollar question is will he become that player? The price tag hasn’t helped

Salahs goal stats are padded with Pens!! have a look at his stats without the pens this season.......... i would not go so far as to say 'shocking' but he's another one who's open play goals fell off a cliff this season.

FFS give it a rest, it's none stop 😂

Machin should be in politics!!!

Part of me thinks there's a player in there but he's not a kid anymore and his craziness can be good on the pitch but I think someone on one of the channels said recently that does it make it a bit hectic for his team mates to predict too? Plus some of his off pitch antics seem a bit unsettling.. Dunno is the short answer..

Darwin has one more year in my mind otherwise he needs to be shipped out, and we shouldn't care if we make our money back

Darwin gets far too much criticism

Paul get of the fence

White Emile Heskey

Doesnt change the fact that chris wood has more prem goals than all your forwards bar mo salah

Put simply - yes.

He’s a striker and can’t fucking finish , what are we talking about

Sometimes I wonder if you guys actually understand football. Salah being on the field limits Darwin space. Sell Salah, sell Lucho, buy Adingra from Brighton and get Rodrygo from Madrid.

Nunez had less goals in the league than Kai havertz, Nicolas Jackson, and Leandro trossard to name a few and I would think he is the second coming of JC listening to half my fellow Liverpool fans. I love Darwin’s passion but it’s embarrassing to have less goals than Nicolas Jackson, and be considered a starting striker on a team that competed for league title for 3/4 of the season.

This is becoming tiresome. When we’re looking at numbers….oh, but he played the most When we look at others’ numbers…oh, but he doesn’t do the defensive work When he gets involved in big martches (given, more with assists)…oh, but he doesn’t score But, honestly, considering selling such a player is a sign of not understanding football, i am sorry. And on this front, really, “is there a world” where Ste can avoid lamenting, huffing and puffing, or, at least, “is there a world” where he can just be reasonable and not be so sure of his opinions? Cause he comes across as a whiny fair-weather fan who cherrypicks his facts. Again I ask, “is there a world” where, along with the “fame” of being part of a nice supporters’ channel translates into one individual actually evolving, developing and becoming both more knowledgeable and more decent? “Is there a world” where we learn and become better or is it just “i have this thought and i will die with it?” …

A strikers job is to put the ball in the back of the net and he can't do it.He's had long enough to settle in he's just not a top class striker we need to get rid of him.

Take salah out of tge team Darwin scores 25+ prem goals

Needs selling more like.

Nunez isn't clutch Isak is clutch Isak is a champions League footballer Newcastle are not in Europe....it's a no brainer for Liverpool to go all out on Isak if that means selling Nunez then go for it.

Would have sold Nunez if i was Slot. Don’t feel he will ever get to the level he needs to be at for Liverpool. He got more goals last season but he also missed so many chances and his awareness is very poor. Regularly offside and his decision making in the box is really really poor. For me he either plays on the left and competes with Diaz for that position or he is sold on. Slot needs to do 2 things sort out the defence as it leaks far too many silly goals and buy a centre forward.

Erm nar

Ummm, no.

Nunez is a good player, assists, link up play and he works hard for the team. Yet as being our main forward his not suited for that role currently maybe never. To challenge on all fronts we need a goalscorer, plus his offside record is terrible haha

The bald bloke- Look at Firmnio and Mane first two seasons - both are not as good as Nunez first 2 seasons. Nunez did not decide the price- Nunez put Van Dyke , Gomez, Konate , TAA on there fat backsides, in the ECL twice, punished LFC defense with ease. Nunez did not play CF for Almeria, Benfica or does he play CF Uruguay.. He plays across the line, he is not a number 9 the bald bloke needs to learn facts. By the way Gapko first 18 months are dreadful stats wise assist and goals

No.

Nice toxic little session guys..good professional hating

1st

Darwin He is no good technically ynwa

No we need a new centre forward. Nunez would get Slot sacked

Nunez is twice the player Halland is & I bet most of hate comments are from rivals and the few dans we got , ppl need to go outside!

You dont play Nunez over Gakpo. Not a chance

NO!! He is not good enough. We have regressed as far as our attack is concerned in the last 2 years.