That was abnormally poor from Nieve. She's normally so on point.

Like even the the last two world cups and the last Euros were won on/by tactics being good rather than just vibes. These lot sure know how to waffle.

She's been brought down to these dimwits level.

Agreed. How can you watch the way Spain played (with less individual talent than England) against France, Italy, Germany, England & Croatia and think England were tactically just as good with the way they played v Slovenia, Slovakia, Serbia, Denmark etc?

Spaniard here, de la Fuente won with the sub 19, 21 and the absolute. He has experience drafting, making a good team and wining. He has plenty of experience.

He's mental, the amount of shite he shouts from the rooftop regarding Chelsea about demanding success, but England he's the complete opposite. I think his goal is to always come across as a contrarian and absorb all the engagement that it brings.

Guys lost it

Lost me at this was spain biggest achievement over winning euros wc euros

@@eelez9634 2 weeks ago he was completely anti soufgate

Yeah, ngl, Adam has some half decent takes sometimes, but this lot are mental. I'm out.

Finally some common sense. England didn't really outplay 1 single team they faced in the whole tournament.

@@hyywe240 what a load of waffle

@@char198 I tried to read it and wasted my time.. England never will progress because you have idiots who are results oriented instead of looking at the context too.

​@char198 a well thought out repsonse with lots of good points 🙄 try actually speaking like an adult and making some counter arguments?

@@hyywe240 youve got literally nothing for me to counter you just started spewing out past teams and results how did you expect me to respond?

He relies on his intelligent sounding accent to throw people off.

My god he absolutely waffles 😂😂 it's unbelievable what comes out of his mouth delusional

​@@mikerotchburns2568The Laurence McKenna special

No my brother, this is the beauty of Football, opinions can change after every game, if England would've won it then he'd be called greatest ever coach for England and honestly when Palmer scored I actually thought they might win it outta shear luck and individual brilliance but Football won🗿

@@OG_1669that’s the problem he changes his opinion every time, that’s the disgust of football there’s no integrity

Which is why Rory was spitting truths about 2 finals in 2 years. Which other England manager has done that?

@@akbarloudimate 2nd is 1st loser who gives a rip about runner up not winners

More like Arsenal since everyone loves watching England lose

If only ENG had some of Tottenham's recent mangers, Poch or Maureeniho with these palyers, would've clinched a trophy!

@@lukelocks9083 Maureeniho lmao

Literally any English manager with Prem experience would be better. Howe, Rodgers, Potter... I'd take any of them over Southgate.

@@BurnCKC I'd take an outside and cheeky punt on both Lee Carsley and Will Still above Southgate (not that it matters now as hes defo not staying)

@@BurnCKCnot rodgers, he might be better than Southgate but there’s better options than both

England have been to 3 finals, Southgate got us two of them... put some respect on his name.

You just said they were not a top 4 team yet got to the final therefore exceeding expectations

@@EvilMammal As a neutral, Southgate deserves respect on stabilizing England after the disaster of 2016, but celebrating finals is no where near a good mentality. A prime example is Tottenham, what's the point in celebrating 2nd? You wanna win or fill the quota? And Euro 2024 was the most luckiest run to the final a team has had considering y'all having arguably the best squad on paper. Not only was there luck but the performance was HORRIFIC and boring and just playing off moments. That's not gonna win you anything, respect for stabilizing England but now its time for the next step and that means a serial winning manager

​@olbapoli4074 you're leaving out context, that being that the top 4 were all on the same side of the bracket

@@olbapoli4074 They didn't have to play Germany, France, Belgium or Portugal. Scraped a result against Slovakia and Switzerland, saved in the last minute by watkins against Netherlands and looked terrible for 2 thirds of the match against Spain which they lost. That is not exceeding expectations mate.

he does say in this that southgate has changed his mind in this tournament

He does this every tournament.

@@EvilMammal I literally don't understand how struggling against subpar opposition that we are superior to in tandem with his stubborness to change the system and players all the way until we actually did play a good team and got eliminated justifies a change in ones mind about a giving coach. Like what? What are they watching?

@@themisanthropichumanist7050 I'm getting so tired of people thinking they can do a better job - Nieve's opinion in this video is on point and it's about time some fucking said it.

@@EvilMammal We're not saying we could do a better job, but we understand that there's coaches out there that would; and anybody with a brain can make that observation. There's coaches out there who would absolutely do a better job; that's why they're considered world-class and Gareth is not. He got Middlesborough relegated and now he's managing a team above his pay grade.

Exactly. The fact is that if we were on the other side of the draw, we'd have been out in the last 16... quarters at best.

also 45 MILLION QUID RICHER

Why weren't the other England manager's lucky.

Spain played Italy, France, Germany, Croatia.

They're a better team, thats why! And we significantly outplayed Holland, at least in the first half anyway. But why are you expecting us to outplay teams anyway? We lost 0-4 at home, to Hungary!! England are crap, its in the blood, we have to face that fact. And we never gel our substantial talent into anything like what it should be. But Gareth is doing far, far better than anyone else before him (except Alf, that much goes without saying). NOBODY should be expecting England to win, thats mental thinking..crazy!! Stop expecting "Its coming home"....ITS NOT! People who say that, either have very short memories or are too young to know what England, historically are. Southgate is doing frigging amazing...nobody else would have gotten us to where he has. It doesn't matter how good our players individually are, put them in a team, wearing a white shirt, with a badge with 3 lions on it, and they turn to shit!! They ALWAYS have done! We're just wayyyy less shit with GS running things, than with any of the others. Its really time people stopped expecting so much from England and give GS some damn props, the man has done a brilliant job with the shit he has had to work with (I mean the collective mentality of the team, not the individual players). England always demote the value of the collective. We should be better but we're not...Gareth deserves alot of respect for what he's done. We don't wanna lose him, because nobody seems to remember how bad it was before him, well, they'll soon recall it vividly, if he leaves...I promise you that!

@@adambishop5739 palmer kane Bellingham foden. All these players have more than 20 goals this season. Goals were the least thing I expected from England as a neutral. Why are all these world class players underperforming? And rory out here chirping Southgate should stay

@@thorodinson7827 Spain knocked out Croatia (who were also finalist in the last European tournament UEFA Nations League) Germany (the hosts) Italy (the reigning European champions) France (World Cup Finalist and highest FIFA ranked team in the tournament) and England (last Euros finalist) Just an insane run.

​@@thorodinson7827 Well everyone else has gotten their wish now, he's decided to leave...which I think is very sad...we are going to get really crap now and everybody will be crying to get him back, you just wait and see.

I think this win was more tougher, 7 games, won the group of death the. Best strong Germany France and now England which is like winning the wc

@@RobenArjenthat’s still not a bigger achievement than winning 3 straight international tournaments. That may never be done again

Rory is delusional I can’t watch this podcast again it’s delusional

@@MrJonnyl123 It literally just happened yesterday lol

@@MrMet777 can’t compare copa America to winning euros and World Cup. Copa America only has two good teams in it in Brazil and Argentina

Mate this is one of the worst watches. They keep crediting the Southgate rather than the FA for creating St George's Park. Most of our youth teams have won a youth World Cup. This is why they get on better with each other. I think there is very little to credit him with

@@BenLeinsterhe definitely deserves credit. He got them far irrespective of favourable draws but it comes down to mentality they don’t have winning mentality

@@RobenArjen He lost again when we played a big team

​@RobenArjen the bracket matters though, switch us with one of the other trams on the other side of the bracket and we don't make the finalN probably don't even make the semis/quarters. Of course you have play what's infront of you but even being in the easier bracket, we got past Slovakia from a wonder goal in the 94th minute. We scraped through games up to the finals. Then as soon as we cam up against a top team we got outplayed

@@BenLeinster agree but he got to 2 finals even if it’s favourable draw and that what matters most. Final also goes down to luck

Right. That was complete nonsense.

Ngl I know nothing about Lee Carsley but now that Southgate's resigned I hope he comes in, pretty hilarious how he actually has a better resume than Southgate but they don't want him 😂 b2b European finals are nice and all but he actually knows how to win one so not exactly the downgrade they think it is is it lol

Just utter b.s she spoke unfortunately. Not credible at all.

The lady is just talking from a place of ignorance about de la Fuentes people who know him know how good he is.

She is objectively right, you are just reasoning like a blinded idiot. Southgate is the most experienced England manager of all time at the reigns, as well as the first to finals back to back. Managing kids is incomparable to the international stage, where Southgate far mismatches de la Fuente. I'm a Cule and Spain/Argentina fan btw​@@Manofloveandpeace

Dont mind them though. Same guys who said about how Spurs are serial losers, yet praise Southgate for winning fuck all

All he has to show is that he can get very lucky and get a easy route to the final and lose. Okay he got to the final twice anybody with basic tactical knowledge could make the final with that team. And then when they play a good team they get spun and even in the World Cup against France they played a slum and shit Germany team easy route to the final and then lost to a good Italian team so 🤣

It's insanity. They have biased goggles on and can't see reality.

They really are, think I'm done with this channel tbh

Do you want some salt and vinegar for that chip on your shoulder?

​@@MC-wn9toyour tears provide more than enough salt for the chips

@@lb0433 I’m neither English nor support England…

Yep, and with every tournament that comes and goes ending in failure, more and more scars develop which then amplifies that mentality.

So you just copied someone

Happy

Even Netherlands finished 3rd in their group in this tournament They weren't that good tbh

Which big teams have we beaten in the last 30 years? Other than germany and the netherlands under southgate of course

I’ve always thought this aswell, even in the last euros had all home/Uk based games against soft teams, and a QF against Ukraine! Soft run again

@@hyywe240 how are you even counting netherlands who had their best player in de jong injured all tournament lol

@@ap7football933 they are ranked 7th in the world. That is a big team. I take it you don't remember big teams we beat before southgate though?

Right. That was an absolutely embarrassing statement.

Yeah. Chiesa and Spinazzola were out for over a year both with ACL injuries, which are essentially borderline career-ending.

even if she was right about that, i doubt any italian rlly cares considering they have a trophy to show for it lol

I am certain the are not aware how smart they look until they open their mouths

I know I couldn’t give a fuck about women’s team! His job is the men’s manager he’s there to deliver a trophy and he’s failed every fucking time

Correct!!! Southgate is nowhere near a Klopp, a Guardiola or an Ancelotti........ he's a lower half of the Premier League club manager at best, maybe even a Championship manager if I'm honest.

right… how on earth are you going to play a defensive low block and not have any fast counter attacking players up front 💀

I think thats rory

@@jimmyfaulkner5746😂😂😂

Agreed. It's so disappointing seeing her make such nonsense points here. Even disrespecting the Spain manager at 4:55 and doing so based on an incorrect argument.

Spot on mate. Believing that Southgate can win a trophy is delusional at this point. Moments FC

Well, she can’t even spell her own name so that says it all.

She said less experienced

@@Vipul6190 that’s even more delusional the man has been coaching these players in youth national teams and is experienced not just known by the world and this is by the Spanish players own admission. Rodri himself spoke about it how he was picked by him in the under 17 and 21. You need football knowledge to be a pundit and not just sounding pragmatic.

@@Vipul6190she did though say it in context that he was less tactical hard to rewatch it. No disrepect but everything she said was off point. I give her a benefit of doubt since it’s the first time I hear her speak. But Rory never stands by his words ever in the same podcast he could say 4 different opinions

@@Manofloveandpeace bro they are typical England fans 😂 that's why they never won trophy