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Should I Invest My Money or Pay Off My House?

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Ramsey Everyday Millionaires

Ramsey Everyday Millionaires

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Should I Invest My Money or Pay Off My House?
Listen to how ordinary people built extraordinary wealth-and how you can too. You’ll learn how millionaires live on less than they make, avoid debt, invest, are disciplined and responsible! Featuring hosts from the Ramsey Network: Dave Ramsey, Ken Coleman, George Kamel, Rachel Cruze, and John Delony.
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@ZacharyBuhler
@ZacharyBuhler 2 жыл бұрын
I’m about to pay off my house and couldn’t be more excited! Just pay off that mortgage and watch your money grow after that 💴
@thehussar5604
@thehussar5604 2 жыл бұрын
This guy has a household income twice of what he owes on his mortgage. He can't reduced expenses and live on 100k for a year to get this mortgage gone AND invest his savings? I'd love to have some of the problems these people have.
@webfreakz
@webfreakz 2 жыл бұрын
and a 175k commission coming? and if he spends everything the next 6 years, he only needs ~5% on his 750k pension accounts to become a millionaire.
@vic2796
@vic2796 2 жыл бұрын
When you watch Enough Ramsey and know the answer before the vid starts but still watch it any way..,
@butteryflakycrust4864
@butteryflakycrust4864 6 ай бұрын
Sometimes I just need to rehear the same answer with the same rationale again and again to remind myawldn😅
@iBJanky
@iBJanky 2 жыл бұрын
My #1 priority nowadays is to completely pay off my mortgage. The peace of mind that would bring is priceless.
@aolvaar8792
@aolvaar8792 2 жыл бұрын
My $250/mo mortgage doesn't way on my mind. My $8000/mo pension covers it.
@aaront936
@aaront936 2 жыл бұрын
Oh it has a price its called opportunity cost.
@DiaJasin
@DiaJasin 2 жыл бұрын
@@aaront936 what if you chase the investmwnt opportunity right before a crash? Life isn't a predetermined mathematical equation...
@sasabnis
@sasabnis Жыл бұрын
​@@DiaJasin but... What if you catch it right before a boom? Life's a gamble anyway, gotta play for keeps
@travelnurseadventures3225
@travelnurseadventures3225 2 жыл бұрын
Love George as a host, miss Dave, but George is the next best thing!
@evandavis2362
@evandavis2362 2 жыл бұрын
I feel the exact same way
@robertrocha597
@robertrocha597 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. He really is the best choice.
@evanserickson
@evanserickson 2 жыл бұрын
He’s really growing into the role
@cdellbrumley
@cdellbrumley 2 жыл бұрын
I like George. You can tell he is very smart and has a wicked sense of humor.
@AaBbCcDdEeF
@AaBbCcDdEeF 2 жыл бұрын
Not with today’s math.
@cdellbrumley
@cdellbrumley 2 жыл бұрын
@@AaBbCcDdEeF The remaining mortgage was a small percentage of this guy's net worth. He'll be fine. I was in the same boat and paid my mortgage off last year, after 8 years. Zero debt and I would do it again.
@brentjtalbert
@brentjtalbert 2 жыл бұрын
at least someone likes him 😂
@MichaelAnderson-wk1no
@MichaelAnderson-wk1no 2 жыл бұрын
Another problem with his buddies' formula is they're making the huge assumption that his investments are going to double in the next 7 years. They're also making the assumption that he will not experience any sort of income loss or tragedy. Those are assumptions, not guarantees. The only thing that is guaranteed is that he'll be paying the bank 2.5% a year until he gets the mortgage out of his life.
@linuxsurfer2002
@linuxsurfer2002 2 жыл бұрын
This was my first thought too. Say he does his buddies' way and he invests the money. Then we enter a bear market and he loses 25% in 3 years. Plus in year 4, he loses his job or loses a family member or something. Now he still has the mortgage payments, he has only 75% of the money he started with, and he has a loss to deal with.
@wackkawack6640
@wackkawack6640 2 жыл бұрын
Dave Ramsey makes this very same assumption every day.
@superblump87
@superblump87 2 жыл бұрын
@@linuxsurfer2002 odds are your scenario won't happen.
@WhoDevv
@WhoDevv 2 жыл бұрын
@@linuxsurfer2002 i agree its best to pay off the home but why do people always come up with the worst case scenario to prove a point? he could also make 1000% and get a raise...
@CalmerThanYouAre1
@CalmerThanYouAre1 2 жыл бұрын
Or he could double his money in 5 years and increase his income as inflation increases the cost of living, wages and… stock prices in the long run. Which is historically what has happened 100% of the time.
@djpuplex
@djpuplex 2 жыл бұрын
Compound interest works better over time not paying off the house early has a fixed return which historically is low. And the daughter not going to "college" most likely is a good thing.
@clarifyingquestions
@clarifyingquestions 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, compound interest and debt free except for the mortgage are your best friends. This is why Dave has pay off debt and fully fund an emergency fund and then retirement BEFORE house.
@butteryflakycrust4864
@butteryflakycrust4864 6 ай бұрын
He has enough money, may as well pay it off.. “diversify investments”, and if you already have some retirement out there and are putting the 15% of your income toward higher yield retirement, having a “guaranteed return” of a lower percentage on your dollars by lowering your mortgage interest liability is a good way to “diversify”
@plants4thewin
@plants4thewin 2 жыл бұрын
I think it depends on your situation, I dont like have a mortgage hanging over my head.
@westbccoast
@westbccoast 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly and that's the point, it's not always about money
@thedopplereffect00
@thedopplereffect00 2 жыл бұрын
Yearly property taxes and maintenance
@plants4thewin
@plants4thewin 2 жыл бұрын
@@thedopplereffect00 yeah, Dave talks about housing be stable when you own. However those property taxes are no joke when your house is overpriced. My payment went up $82
@ivanschris6725
@ivanschris6725 2 жыл бұрын
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@sandrajoel5491
@sandrajoel5491 2 жыл бұрын
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@tiffyuff5984
@tiffyuff5984 2 жыл бұрын
Trading crypto now would be wise but trading without a professional is really bad I’m a living testimony of Mrs Pauline Bernice strategies on trading
@vikokin4966
@vikokin4966 2 жыл бұрын
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@baxterperry8331
@baxterperry8331 2 жыл бұрын
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@jeffreyeric5229
@jeffreyeric5229 2 жыл бұрын
As a first time investor I started trading with Mrs Pauline Bernice with just a thousand bucks. my portfolio is worth much more that now within just weeks of trading with her.
@jb111082
@jb111082 2 жыл бұрын
George is really starting to come into his own as a host. It's good to see, really.
@FunesLegend
@FunesLegend Жыл бұрын
Yeah I remember when he sounded like a parrot 🤣
@steviejd5803
@steviejd5803 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got 23k left on my mortgage, personally I’m paying that baby down to zero asap. I care not a jot about leveraging and market returns. This could all go south very quickly. Having no debt suits me way better than the constant payment to the mortgage company. Also, I’m grateful to them for lending me their money to buy my home, so it’s a debt I agreed to pay way back. It should come as no surprise that we have to pay it back. Anyway, plenty of people will argue against me, not bothered at all. I like seeing my debt reducing to near zero in 12 months. I’ll put my $1000 a month into my S&P non sexy index fund and forget about it. Compound interest yeah, I know, time, face, not bothered. Oh and for the record I’ve only just learnt to spell bollox upside down in a calculator, so my financial planning is particularly curious to me. You people better not follow me. Sorry to go on…and breathe, no credit card debt, no car payments, minimal mortgage…..thanks Dave. Probs die tomorrow. Not bothered either way.
@jessicaguzman6024
@jessicaguzman6024 2 жыл бұрын
Same here! Mortgage’s only debt I have and hope to pay it off within a year,love seeing that amount going down! 🙃
@steviejd5803
@steviejd5803 2 жыл бұрын
@@jessicaguzman6024 let’s do it together and report back in a year max. I’ll struggle to pay £23k but I will certainly get very close if not the whole way to zero.
@jessicaguzman6024
@jessicaguzman6024 2 жыл бұрын
@stevieJD yes!! I look forward to this! 😃
@jessicaguzman6024
@jessicaguzman6024 2 жыл бұрын
I have 2 kids so I totally get what you mean but we’ll do it. See you in a year!
@steviejd5803
@steviejd5803 2 жыл бұрын
@@jessicaguzman6024 Hi Jessica, let’s do it. Dave would be proud of us but our kids will have a security that don’t even realise.
@imdoc7872
@imdoc7872 2 жыл бұрын
It all depends on your interest rate. If below 5%, I would invest. Especially if you are young.
@reaper-sz5tm
@reaper-sz5tm 2 жыл бұрын
Mine is 3.1% and I’m 28 years old. Your statement is exactly why I’ve chosen to invest 20% of my income instead of paying my house off early. These are my golden years to put away investment money.
@glenn4198
@glenn4198 2 жыл бұрын
I’m 5.4% fixed so I’m trying to kill the mortgage 💯
@aaront936
@aaront936 2 жыл бұрын
@@glenn4198 yikes why haven't you refinanced in the last 2 years?
@glenn4198
@glenn4198 2 жыл бұрын
@@aaront936 I thought about it but I owe 28k now and felt it was little to late to go through hassle. But yea I’m kinda regretting not refinancing
@Epidombe
@Epidombe 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I would even dip into emergency fund and 100% pay it off. Build up the emergency fund again (at 200k income that will take literally 1 month) then begin putting what he was paying on his house (minus the 400 or so he should be saving for property taxes) and invest that. Then he 100% debt free and can start saving for whatever ventures hes interested in.
@emmanuelokelola7310
@emmanuelokelola7310 2 жыл бұрын
What if an emergency comes up during the time you spent your emergency fund trying to pay off said house?
@Epidombe
@Epidombe 2 жыл бұрын
@@emmanuelokelola7310 he said he has 20k for emergency fund. That leaves him with 10k emergency fund. Im not sure about urgency but usually emergencies above that are medical, which do not require immediate payment. And anything over the 10k would likely be covered by insurance anyways as making 200k you should have at most a 10k deductible. But obviously this is opinion-based.
@Epidombe
@Epidombe 2 жыл бұрын
@@emmanuelokelola7310 Also, after thinking more about this, paying it off 100% would reduce your monthly expenses anyways. That would bring the amount of emergency fund he needs down by 1970 per month. Which would still fit him within the confines of Dave’s plan.
@rajbeekie7124
@rajbeekie7124 2 жыл бұрын
Simple answer. Do not pay off the mortgage. Invest the money in an index fund. Relax and enjoy the gains over the next decade.
@AaBbCcDdEeF
@AaBbCcDdEeF 2 жыл бұрын
The heck kinda math am I hearing on this call? Guy says he’s got 95k principal outstanding with a rate of 2.5%. He calculates that paying it off in 7 years will mean that he’ll have to pay 50k in interest? Then George asks how much his mortgage pmt is and guy says 1952 (around 2k). So George then says the guy is paying 24k mortgage pmt that’s not counting interest. What kinda mortgage payment is principal and escrow only? I want in on this deal. Too bad Dave’s not there, he’d calculate that the guy’s 200K household income after tax would be $199.5k.
@thebestthingthatneverhappe6729
@thebestthingthatneverhappe6729 2 жыл бұрын
gosh this was enjoyable to read
@RJRussoVids
@RJRussoVids 2 жыл бұрын
The payoff on the house is guaranteed. The market returns are not.
@thedopplereffect00
@thedopplereffect00 2 жыл бұрын
Oh please. Money market funds were paying over 2.5% just a few years ago.
@aolvaar8792
@aolvaar8792 2 жыл бұрын
I bought my house 12 years ago for $50K, Now ~$500K and ~45% YOY ~$1.2MM in 4-5 years My $250/mo mortgage doesn't way on my mind. My $8000/mo pension covers it.
@aaront936
@aaront936 2 жыл бұрын
The 30 year treasury note is paying more than the bank is charging for my 30yr mortgage. Seek better advice than the babysteps.
@thedopplereffect00
@thedopplereffect00 2 жыл бұрын
@@aaront936 that's awesome. I see that even a 5 year CD pays 0.5% more than my mortgage rate. It's only going to keep going up from here too.
@livsand
@livsand 2 жыл бұрын
George is doing a great job! By the way, KZfaq won't let me Like the video for some reason.
@steviejd5803
@steviejd5803 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve done for you.
@nttwashere
@nttwashere 2 жыл бұрын
To everyone who says it’s better to invest than pay off the mortgage: you can’t compare the 2.5% mortgage interest to the ~8% returns on the market. This ‘math’ assumes one situation where there is a paid off mortgage, and the other where investments have been compounding for 7 years. So, you’re comparing an investor to a non-investor...effectively stacking the deck against the first situation. When someone pays off their mortgage, they would then invest that mortgage payment, thereby creating an asset that would grow, much like the asset in the second situation (George hinted at this in the video). Using numbers from the video, if the caller keeps the $85k invested for 7 years, at about 8% return, that will turn into $145,675. But if he pays off the mortgage and frees up the $1,952/mo payment, investing that payment amount for 7 years, at the same 8% return), yields $209,007. So, by all accounts, he should pay off the mortgage now, and then invest the 'would be' payment for a higher net worth at the end of the 7 years. Additionally, around 67 or so videos on the Ramsey channel have people calling in talking about their millionaire net worth. About 40 or so (from what I’ve roughly seen), the folks have not used leverage, and their net worth is around $2.5M - $3M to about $5M. So, without leverage, the range is around $4M, +/- $1M. Is there any statistical data for the leveraged group of folks and their net worth? For me, personally, they need to be hitting AT LEAST $6M or $7M to make the leverage worth it. If I can hit ~$4M without leverage, I'm not going to take on the risk of debt, choke my cash flow, and have few financial opportunities for my family if the payoff isn't significantly worth it :) Everything looks good on paper with incomplete math, but is there actual evidence and statistical validation that leverage overall performs better than non-leverage? Just some food thought :D
@abrahamflores2566
@abrahamflores2566 2 жыл бұрын
The piece of the math that can be adjusted to maximize wealth even more is to recast the mortgage or refinance it. A $2k payment a month is super high if your balance is only $85k, payments should closer to $1000 a month. In that scenario it makes more sense to keep the mortgage and keep investing
@aaront936
@aaront936 2 жыл бұрын
The math favors compounding interest.
@clintmccabe6904
@clintmccabe6904 2 жыл бұрын
@@abrahamflores2566 he’s approaching the end of his mortgage term that’s why he has only 85k remaining, but has a 2k payment. He’s had a 2k payment the entire life of his loan. He didn’t take out the loan yesterday.
@michaeleldridge5640
@michaeleldridge5640 Жыл бұрын
@@abrahamflores2566 but the mortgage is a risk free return. the market is not. I think that is where the benefit is.
@daniel52267
@daniel52267 2 жыл бұрын
People we are being conned with mortgages. If you get a mortgage and at the end of 30 years you have paid 300,000 dollars on a 100,000 loan you have paid 300% interest not 3 or 5 % interest. Yea at the end of the loan you have paid for 3 houses 1 for you and 2 for the bank.
@aaront936
@aaront936 2 жыл бұрын
My mortgage has a 2.5% interest rate. Right now the 30 year treasury is paying more than my bank is charging. I'll carry that mortgage around like a pet for the next 30 years while every extra dollar is invested to make more.
@steve3585
@steve3585 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t risk something you have for something you don’t need. If everything else is good (retirement savings look good etc), then pay off the house asap, and live stress free. However, if you still need to grow your wealth for retirement, then there is an argument for maintaining a small level of risk by keeping the mortgage and using the money to invest instead.
@motoryzen
@motoryzen 2 жыл бұрын
No..there is no sense in remaining in debt when you CAN be free of it. That's just dumb.
@aolvaar8792
@aolvaar8792 2 жыл бұрын
@@motoryzen My $250/mo mortgage doesn't way on my mind. My $8000/mo pension covers it. Just live well.
@motoryzen
@motoryzen 2 жыл бұрын
@@aolvaar8792 of course it doesn't . Just like anyone else.. you're thinking short term and guess what else? Pensions can ALWAYS be revoked or taken away for any reason. Amy company can do it. So you go right ahead. I'm banking on a sure thing.. Not owing anyone and sleeping better at night
@aolvaar8792
@aolvaar8792 2 жыл бұрын
@@motoryzen the day that a military pension isn't paid, you will be able to walk over tens of millions of SSA retiree that have starved to death. It's taxpayer money withdrawn from the general fund. So not ALWAYS
@NWforager
@NWforager 2 жыл бұрын
i'd let that fixed 2% loan run as Looong as possible . we aren't gonna see those low interest rates anymore very likely
@robloxvids2233
@robloxvids2233 2 жыл бұрын
In 2010 when I bought my home for 4.5% 15 year fixed it was about as low as rates were at the time. Just a couple years earlier rates were higher. Even mortgage brokers were telling me to lock that rate in because rates were only going to go up. What really happened? Rates went even lower, and in 12 years of owning my home have, to my knowledge, never been as high as 4.5%. We do have an idea rates are going up since they've been hinting at it. But you don't know how up they will go or for how long they will be up.
@robloxvids2233
@robloxvids2233 2 жыл бұрын
@@googleuser8660 Yes, if rates climb then the cost to borrow money increases, which means the demand drops a little. Assuming supply stays the same then prices will drop a bit. It works both ways. Your high-yield savings account will begin to pay more, too. In 2008 HYS were paying as much as 6%!
@thedopplereffect00
@thedopplereffect00 2 жыл бұрын
@@robloxvids2233 so you were too lazy to refi?
@robloxvids2233
@robloxvids2233 2 жыл бұрын
@@thedopplereffect00 Well how much did I borrow? Was it worth my time? Did it make mathematical sense to pay thousands to refi? You might want to know those answers before you simply call someone lazy.
@thedopplereffect00
@thedopplereffect00 2 жыл бұрын
@@robloxvids2233 unless your mortgage was really small refi would have been the right move. I had a similar rate around that same time and later refi to 3.5% on a 30 yr. I would have refid again to a 15yr 2.5%, but ended up buying another house with that rate. During the same period my investments almost doubled.
@mxerb5912
@mxerb5912 2 жыл бұрын
When you pay the home off youre guaranteed the return of the mortgage interest.
@agentorange20
@agentorange20 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, so then it comes down to that interest rate on that mortgage. If he’s got a 2-3% if he refi in past couple years investing should be able to yield greater than 2-3% annually. Adjusting for inflation which will push wages higher and the income to housing costs including debt get even better.
@aaront936
@aaront936 2 жыл бұрын
If you aren't making more than 2-3% annually you need to fire ramseys smart vestor and put your money in a low cost s&p index fund.
@kuryanthomas1438
@kuryanthomas1438 2 жыл бұрын
based on what i heard at the beginning of the call, i thought all he had was the 85k in savings. But now hearing at the end he has other assets and is so close to being a millionaire (in addition to his large take home income), there is no point for him to wait 7 years to pay off the mortgage, just pay everything off now.
@aaront936
@aaront936 2 жыл бұрын
Opportunity cost is a very good reason to not pay off cheap mortgage debt.
@claykorth7244
@claykorth7244 2 жыл бұрын
Why pay off a fixed mortgage of 2% when fixed rates are becoming harder to find. Yes he will over pay for the house factoring in interes,t but with rising interest rates and inflation, I think it would be foolish to pay this loan off with money that could yield a better return elsewhere. By paying off the loan he would only be saving 2%. If he could yield 2.1% ROI anywhere else, it would be more profitable.
@thedopplereffect00
@thedopplereffect00 2 жыл бұрын
If interest rates keep going up even a money market fund would beat that! Pretty much zero risk
@Stingray2201
@Stingray2201 2 жыл бұрын
Risk mitigation. Yes, the math may work out to invest but you could have 3 conservative bad years of market returns which take another 2 years to break even. If he gets laid off, having more mortgage is a life saver. Giving into retirement without a mortgage is the #1 success rate for retirement.
@agentorange20
@agentorange20 2 жыл бұрын
@@thedopplereffect00 right, just maths. Pay off a 2-3% debt interest or invest it to capture a better yield? This guy telling me he can’t find annual yields over 3%? His stated income however suggests he could very likely do a bit of both. Either way, good on him for fiscal health to be in a situation that affords such options.
@aaront936
@aaront936 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stingray2201 the 30yr treasury note is paying 2.6%. It's not a risk
@TS1023TS
@TS1023TS Жыл бұрын
This math is way better! Thanks! Not paying off the home makes zero sense to me!
@buckybarnes3803
@buckybarnes3803 2 жыл бұрын
Rich people problems. Should I be a millionaire now, or should I be one later...
@IgoOutlateAtnight
@IgoOutlateAtnight 2 жыл бұрын
The friends are correct. Ramsey's advice works to get out of debt for a large portion of the public. BUT if you are above average intelligence investing is the right choice...vast majority of the time...
@westbccoast
@westbccoast 2 жыл бұрын
If it's purely math then his friends are right, but you and many are missing the point, it's not about maths and money it's about freedom and safety. He will have lots of money to invest after, why throw away that freedom. Sounds like he is already an millionaire, so why have a $90K mortgage ..
@IgoOutlateAtnight
@IgoOutlateAtnight 2 жыл бұрын
@@westbccoast If invested and DIVERSIFIED if you ever need to pay that mortgage off RIGHT NOW you can liquidate an asset (that is now worth more with the money you properly utilized instead of paying down the house... I understand the "feeling" side of this, but logic overrides feelings in these markets...
@westbccoast
@westbccoast 2 жыл бұрын
@@IgoOutlateAtnight True but again you thinking in maths terms instead of peace of mind. As someone said you can do both. This video isn't a good example as he has a low mortgage, but someone with a large mortgage might not be as well situated to pay off using investments. That's why the strategy is pay 15% into investments and hammer your mortgage to zero and then invest invest invest. It's a large debate for sure and mixed which is the best strategy but Dave will keep saying his poll on how millionaires got rich was paying off the mortgage as fast as possible, agree or disagree.
@Jbb7272
@Jbb7272 2 жыл бұрын
@@IgoOutlateAtnight “logic override feelings”?? What world do you live in? Look around. A bunch of snowflakes and those fees-fees are running the country. Logic should override feelings. All of the marketing on the planet is used to manipulate your feelings. That’s why they put snacks at the check out line. Because candy makes you “feel” good. And conversely: to your liquidation point… you can always get another mortgage if you don’t like it.
@jdtreharne
@jdtreharne 2 жыл бұрын
"Above average intelligence"..... Yeah, tell that to Warren Buffett
@ColeBeasley
@ColeBeasley 2 жыл бұрын
Bro. Invest the money conservatively.. if you have a 2.5% interest rate you would make a killin. I mean AT&T pays an 8% dividend.
@CalmerThanYouAre1
@CalmerThanYouAre1 2 жыл бұрын
His friends are absolutely right, especially with a $200K salary and $95K of debt. Are you kidding me?! 😂However, if it allows you to sleep better at night by paying down that low interest mortgage debt, go for it. Just do it knowing you’re most likely sacrificing wealth to do it.
@JohnNagleIV
@JohnNagleIV 2 жыл бұрын
If you had that extras right now, then sure. But the value of future money is less. The value of that payment in 7 years is 1,616.92
@saltycontractor5341
@saltycontractor5341 2 жыл бұрын
At this point of the mortgage his payment has minimal interest in the payment.
@johannamiller527
@johannamiller527 2 жыл бұрын
"Not a payment in the world" - except for property taxes, homeowner's insurance, health insurance, utilities, car insurance... If you're looking for a zero-risk life, you're never going to find it.
@MichaelAnderson-wk1no
@MichaelAnderson-wk1no 2 жыл бұрын
You'll always have taxes, insurance, and utilities. What you DON'T have to have in your life on top of that is a bunch of debt following you around. You have to control the controllables.
@todd2456
@todd2456 2 жыл бұрын
Those aren't payments. They're expenses.
@gottesma
@gottesma 2 жыл бұрын
@@todd2456 great! I'll just stop paying them then because they're not payments. Great advice.
@linuxsurfer2002
@linuxsurfer2002 2 жыл бұрын
He means not a loan payment.
@smartcookie3500
@smartcookie3500 2 жыл бұрын
Pay for expenses, not make payments on them. Way better experiences.
@CalmerThanYouAre1
@CalmerThanYouAre1 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand the obsession with paying off 2.5% ultra low interest and very safe mortgage debt. The bank is only one of the 3 mortgages you have on your property and the other two will never be paid off… the state and the insurance company. You’re never “debt free”. It’s a cash flow equation and a matter of the most cost-effective use of capital. As long as you’re smart enough and disciplined enough to manage your finances properly.
@minkekj
@minkekj 2 жыл бұрын
Taxes and home owners insurance aren't mortgages. They're bills, not debt. It's the exact same thing as an electric bill, water bill, car insurance, etc. Those are bills, not debt payments. Paying off the mortgage gives you greater long term stability. And as "safe" as mortgage debt is, no mortgage debt is that much safer. It's much wiser to use that $85k to increase your overall financial stability than invest. And just like George said, with no mortgage payment, he can start throwing all that towards investments anyways.
@billybuttons4298
@billybuttons4298 2 жыл бұрын
Because the way this organization operates is based off of emotion and not math.
@romeoj30
@romeoj30 2 жыл бұрын
Risk should always be factored in. 7 years is a long time for a lot to happen. He could lose his high paying job, investments can tank, a divorce can happen, a death can happen etc. The plan to not pay off the mortgage in lieu of a probable return is nothing more than assumption. I like to know what’s coming and control it. Pay off the stupid mortgage… use the high income to invest…still get rich!
@CalmerThanYouAre1
@CalmerThanYouAre1 2 жыл бұрын
@@minkekj Yeah, not debt literally. I used the word debt hoping to spark some thought and debate. But try to stop paying your taxes and see what happens to your house. The government will seize it. You never own your house, you’re always leasing it from the government. In my opinion, that’s true indebtedness! In that regard, paying off the mortgage doesn’t free you from anything. It just makes your house easier to afford from a cash flow perspective. Investors should understand there is risk and opportunity cost associated with every financial decision. There is a cost of the use of capital. And if you’ve done any amount of research, you’ll find that as long as your income is stable, paying down a 2.75% mortgage has resulted in less wealth over every single 30 year period in history. 100% of the time. That’s a compelling fact, in my opinion. The Ramsey crew always comments that paying off your house early is a road to wealth, and it is. However, they never own the well documented fact that the same investors would have been FAR wealthier had they made standard mortgage payments and invested into broad market, low cost index funds (not expensive mutual funds). They could have also paid their house off much earlier if they’d chosen to do so. 🤷🏻‍♂️
@CalmerThanYouAre1
@CalmerThanYouAre1 2 жыл бұрын
@@romeoj30 Anything “could” happen. There is always risk in every financial decision. If it makes you sleep better at night and stick to the plan, go for it. You’ll get rich either way!
@nicholasmartinez6043
@nicholasmartinez6043 2 жыл бұрын
I like Daves teammates but I feel like they definitely hold back more than Dave does.
@lkj0822g
@lkj0822g 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of investors are piling up cash at the moment waiting to see how the situation in Ukraine is going to play out and to see if the idiots in Washington can get the economy under control. At this point in time, I think it is a personal choice - would you rather have a paid off house and no savings or keep making payments with that $200k salary and keep piling cash up. Personally, I'd opt for the second option, at least for six months or so and see how things are going.
@thedopplereffect00
@thedopplereffect00 2 жыл бұрын
Ukraine doesn't effect us at all. It's the lack of domestic supplies. OPEC just taking advantage of the situation to raise prices
@lkj0822g
@lkj0822g 2 жыл бұрын
@@thedopplereffect00 Since the premise of the question involves investments, the situation in Ukraine absolutely affects the US (and world) financial markets.
@melissab0515
@melissab0515 2 жыл бұрын
My husband said this when covid happened. We have twice as much cash now two years later and still have a mortgage that we could write a check for today. Drives me nuts!
@billyb4790
@billyb4790 9 ай бұрын
This dude is a rockstar and he doesn’t even know it 😂
@socratease4645
@socratease4645 Жыл бұрын
You can borrow money at 3-5% on mortgage. And you can make more than that in stock market over time. So…. Math answer is obvious
@saulgoodman2018
@saulgoodman2018 2 жыл бұрын
But with his income, he can do both.
@MichaelAnderson-wk1no
@MichaelAnderson-wk1no 2 жыл бұрын
And that is exactly what the Baby Steps teach people to do.
@MikeThePike316
@MikeThePike316 2 жыл бұрын
@@evasanz3466 Depends on the bank. I don't think it's a standard practice.
@MikeThePike316
@MikeThePike316 2 жыл бұрын
True. I dunno why some folk approach the topic as an either/or.
@saulgoodman2018
@saulgoodman2018 2 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelAnderson-wk1no The baby steps don't like people doing both at the same time. They want you to do 1 thing at a time.
@MichaelAnderson-wk1no
@MichaelAnderson-wk1no 2 жыл бұрын
@Saul Goodman Baby Steps 4, 5, and 6 are done at the same time, but just started in that order. I've heard them explain this countless times.
@fiedler230
@fiedler230 2 жыл бұрын
buy the Market, I love this pay debt off first then pile it up in the markets. No one does that after the fact. 200000 a year, are you kidding me anyway, either way he does what he does with money he still wins. ALso he is talking about paying it off by this year, so why even ask if the timetable is only a year.
@aaront936
@aaront936 2 жыл бұрын
You should invest more money. Don't prepay the cheapest mortgages in history.
@pojack9979
@pojack9979 2 жыл бұрын
At this rate of inflation, In 7 years, a million won’t be worth that much.
@shadygrady3819
@shadygrady3819 2 жыл бұрын
200 k a year only debt payment is house $1,900. Where in god’s green earth is your money going????
@Dan-rs1nb
@Dan-rs1nb 2 жыл бұрын
He started with this 85K can double in 7 years. Well if he believes that. He must believe the 750K in retirement will as well.
@Mike-123
@Mike-123 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck getting a new mortgage on your house when you just lost your job and are now strapped for liquid assets.
@EngineerInMotion
@EngineerInMotion 2 жыл бұрын
This advice of paying mortgage faster first and then investing ur normal mortgage amount in the market later in life is borderline idiotic. The way money is made in the market and has almost all too do with the amount of time in the market and not so much how much money you have to invest. This is very easily understood by looking at the formula of compound interest where time is the only variable tht is exponential therefore the more time u give even a smaller amount of money to grow, the larger Tht snowball gets as time passes compared to investing large chunks of money when ur time horizon is much smaller. Now if ur in a situation where your household income is not reliable and or in a field of work that is high sensitive to economical event or other international or national event then yes perhaps in this case u can prioritize paying mortgage but if ur in tech or trades or other field of work which isn't really affected to much by external events, it's is idiotic to pay ur house off earlier.
@mattmasteringer4399
@mattmasteringer4399 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is trolling and flexing. Waste of my time
@nchinth
@nchinth 2 жыл бұрын
his retirement SHOULD be worth at least $1.5M in 7 years if it follows expected returns.
@Andrewjenkins-ox3lk
@Andrewjenkins-ox3lk Ай бұрын
Amazing video, A friend of mine referred me to a financial adviser sometime ago and we got to talking about investment and money. I started investing with $150k and in the first 2 months, my portfolio was reading $274,800. Crazy right!, I decided to reinvest my profit and get more interesting. For over a year we have been working together making consistent profit just bought my second home 2 weeks ago and care for my family.
@MsMaxinejoy
@MsMaxinejoy 2 жыл бұрын
PAY OFF HOME. TRUE OWNERSHIP.
@jimc3619
@jimc3619 2 жыл бұрын
If you had a paid off house, would you take a loan to put it in the stock market? Probably no, there's your answer....pay it off.
@aaront936
@aaront936 2 жыл бұрын
At 2.5% yes
@veeo987
@veeo987 2 жыл бұрын
At 25 years old, you can debate on that. At 50 years old, you don't wanna have a mortgage for another 7 years. It's too late to really take advantage of the mortgage extension strategy at that age. Just enjoy being debt free before retiring instead of risking delaying your retirement age. So I would pay it off.
@saulgoodman2018
@saulgoodman2018 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of math is George using. If he pays the minimum. It will only be 102k. And if he invest 80k. In 8 years, that will be 160k. So it's better to invest it.
@ghostmane2643
@ghostmane2643 2 жыл бұрын
Facts. These boomers will never admit that though.
@domm9362
@domm9362 2 жыл бұрын
In 8 years that 80k could also be 40k...
@austind2115
@austind2115 2 жыл бұрын
@@domm9362 the house could catch fire and the insurance company might not pay. Anything can happen. In every market cycle so far, the average return over 8 years is better than his mortgage rate of 2.5% annually.
@domm9362
@domm9362 2 жыл бұрын
@@austind2115 I understand that, but I was giving the perspective he was missing..which is a negative return is possible. Stock market doesnt just go up
@MichaelAnderson-wk1no
@MichaelAnderson-wk1no 2 жыл бұрын
@Dom M Exactly, people throw around these hypothetical formulas as if stock market returns are 100% guaranteed and predictable. You know what IS 100% guaranteed and predictable? The interest you pay the bank each year for as long as you have a mortgage.
@livingunashamed4869
@livingunashamed4869 2 жыл бұрын
He'll more than likely have net worth of 2 million + at 60, he's fine.
@joshuajohnson5584
@joshuajohnson5584 2 жыл бұрын
I would pay off the house. He would make more over 7 years with an 8% return, if he could invest $1952 a month (assuming that taxes aren't the majority of the payment). Plus, he would still have an emergency fund of 10k left.
@thedopplereffect00
@thedopplereffect00 2 жыл бұрын
You didn't do the math
@joshuajohnson5584
@joshuajohnson5584 2 жыл бұрын
@@thedopplereffect00, I see my mistake. I thought that he had 85 k and an 75 k mortgage. However, if you put 85 k in a compound interest calculator for 7 years at 8% then you get $145,675. If you put $1952 per month for 6 years at 8%(assuming the $1952 monthly mortgage for a year would take care of the 10k he is short on) you will get $179,196. But you are right in that I was lazy with the math and didn't do it. I just used a calculator to do it for me.
@aaront936
@aaront936 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuajohnson5584 I bet at least 600 of that mortgage payment is for his escrow account. Paying off the house doesn't free up nearly as much cash flow as people think. It's better to invest in the long run.
@joshuajohnson5584
@joshuajohnson5584 2 жыл бұрын
@@aaront936 it really depends on risk tolerance. He could miss out on 22k (plus future compounding growth) if the escrow is $600. However, I would still prefer paying off the house. Sure you could miss out on some money (assuming the stock market doesn't drop), but there is a lot less risk in lower monthly expenses.
@miketracy9256
@miketracy9256 2 жыл бұрын
If this was 2009 at the start of Obama's Depression, investing at the bottom may have made sense. Now with the Biden Depression coming soon, it may be best to pay off the house.
@aaront936
@aaront936 2 жыл бұрын
Even if you had invested at the top of the last crash you'd still be ahead. Never stop dollar cost averaging.
@codys5727
@codys5727 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't it amazin how people can't read 6 simple steps in order. As George Carlin said "Think of how stupid the average person is and realize that half of them are stupider than that!"
@rdbeaz
@rdbeaz 2 жыл бұрын
What happen to Anthony
@glenn4198
@glenn4198 2 жыл бұрын
He started his own KZfaq channel
@cutehumor
@cutehumor 2 жыл бұрын
This question is asked everyday on this show??? are people dumb??
@aaront936
@aaront936 2 жыл бұрын
The amount of people choosing to prepay sub 3% mortgages proves this audience is dumb
@thedopplereffect00
@thedopplereffect00 2 жыл бұрын
All these fools paying off their houses with 8% inflation. Invest. I made way more money that way. Most people will.
@SeanBaker
@SeanBaker 2 жыл бұрын
George slipping in his own house payoff success. I see you. 👀
@donaldlyons17
@donaldlyons17 Жыл бұрын
Yeah he is just lucky..
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